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of staff at the department of homeland security and tom peck, political sketch writer at the independent. welcome to the programme. its starting to feel a bit like groundhog day on capitol hill. thats because the house is trying again for a third day to elect a speaker of the house. weve now had eight votes. and in all eight, the republican kevin mccarthy has failed to receive enough votes. he hasnt even been able to swing the needle in his favour at all. this is the scene live in the ...

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Necessarily, bad pun, trumping the incumbent. neil: you remember what i remember, reading the history books, be careful of the consensus. herbert humphrey, before the stock market crash, he was a force of nature and the democrats are looking ahead, hey, weve got this guy fdr, big government, big everything else and then the crash came and the unthinkable came and a big government, you know, big player in government emerges with an easy victory. >> youre right. neil: situations can change and mak...