still use the sworn grand jury or proffered testimony to get him to testify against all of the facts he has already revealed. this is sort of an interesting and pretty clever position they ve now put flynn in the larger trump so the president could pardon flynn but still use flynn to potentially prosecute others is what you are saying? right. because as part of the plea agreements, you know, you proffer very, very detailed sets of facts, you know, in order to show exactly what your cooperation might look like. what your value is. oftentimes those are offered before a grand jury, so it is actually sworn statements. wow. so, of course, the question is, you know, you were talking about if mueller, mueller could bring him back. but is mueller safe? i mean, you know, the president has said he s not going to fire robert mueller, but then after something like this happens today, shimon, you wonder is that really going to be the case. you never know, right. we keep hearing there
clearly they wanted to interview kushner before this happened today. right. you know, they already had the case essentially. they already had it. they had spoken to flynn, other witnesses. you have two trump advisers caught in lies, lies to fbi investigators, pleading out, george pop lop luapadopolous, b know have a second one. mueller looking at the possibility that others might give inaccurate accounts to the fbi as well. it raises question, and one is the flynn guilty plea a first step in building an obstruction of justice plea against the president. we re going to talk to someone in the house after a quick break.
you know, they already had the case essentially. they already had it. they had spoken to flynn, other witnesses. you have two trump advisers caught in lies, lies to fbi investigators, pleading out, george papadopolous, but you now have a second one. mueller looking at the possibility that others might give inaccurate accounts to the fbi as well. it raises question, and one is the flynn guilty plea a first step in building an obstruction of justice plea against the president. we re going to talk to someone in the house after a quick break. [vo] quickbooks introduces jeanette.
not like it goes away. remember when the president famously said, i relieved the pressure, i fired comey. right. not really. it didn t work out well. you wonder if comey would have done what mueller is doing now. i wonder if trump is capable of learning that lesson, firing comey, taking dramatic steps? don t underestimate trump s ability have to read up on your history of the saturday night massacre. right. can we return to one quick thing shimon raised, which is this question is this implicates foreign policy. we have talked about this before, which is there is this thing called the logan act which makes it a crime for a private citizen to interfere in the foreign relations of countries. that is exactly what happened here if you take the indictment, the information on its face. they intervened with egypt and with russia with respect to a foreign policy dispute between the obama administration and israel essentially. that s exactly what the logan act was there to prev
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