whether this is an attack, right? whether it is an actually an attack under the nato agreement. and no one really knows. this is a brand new world. i think nato and the united states and the white house have been pretty smart about not being clear what would constitute a cyber attack. they do not want to sort of disclose to russia, you know, this is okay and that s not okay. so there s a focus on critical infrastructure and other defenses, but this is this is really new in terms of that combination of military and cyber warfare. yeah, certainly, you don t want to get into a situation where you re engaged with against russia in cyber wars, right? that is certainly not a situation that the u.s. wants to be in. juliette kayyem go ahead. thank you. no, that s it. thank you. well, kyiv as a city under siege tonight. we re going to have more on that after this break.
nation, this gives you unique opportunity to be above your fear. and i think that we try to do our best to be above the fear. i did hear you say that this is a time for you and everyone to rise above any fears. but do you believe that you are potentially giving up your life today, over the next few days to help save your country? look, i hate the pompous words because people don t believe in the pompous words. but when when you stay in kyiv with russian troops around you should be ready for the tragic twe development of the situation. if i m ready, unfortunately, yes. i hate the idea to be my country
short-term victory he does not believe russia can hold kyiv, can hold onto ukraine. what is the end goal here? well, i agree with the ambassador, and i think that, you know, one of the key things to look at here is when you invade a country you don t need as many forces as you do to hold a country. we kind of found that out in iraq on the u.s. side. it took a long time to pacify that country, and some would argue it was never really properly pacified. but the russians face a much more serious problem in ukraine potentially because the entire population is against them now. the one thing they ve done and it seems to be the exact opposite of what president putin said his goals are, everybody now hates what the russians have done. and as a result they will fight and defend their country. they ve galvanized so many people, and even in russia we re seeing protests, which is significant. absolutely. all right, thank you so much
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the city. and russian soldiers have reportedly put on ukrainian military uniforms and seized a truck. if true, this would contradict russian claims they re only targeting military forces and not striking residential areas. and many ukrainians young and old have chosen to stay and fight. among them former ukrainian president poroshenko who spoke to cnn earlier today. every single person make a decision for themselves. the millions of ukrainians not only staying here but they are fighting against russian aggression with a very high risk to be killed. and i think this is normal when all ukrainian are protecting our country.