together to say, there is no basis for the president s statement to come out and claim victory as they kind of set the predicate for through ho lie then infected the whole republican political establishment going forward. and garrett, we just got some breaking news. bill stepian is saying he will not be able to attend because of a family emergency. so i ll let you get working on that in just one moment. we have another quick question for you. another big story here on capitol hill. a potential break through on gun safety after decades of inaction from washington. there appears to be some movement. key senate negotiators yesterday announced a framework on a series of measures just three weeks after the mass shooting in uvalde, texas, and buffalo, new york. a centerpiece of the deal is to provide substantial resources for states to implement red flag laws. allowing individuals like police
moving toward him in 2015, 2016. it looks like they re going in the other direction now. and for the record, the new york post, what is it? it is the official paper. it is a paper of record of morning joe. but go ahead. it is here on my desk, joe. of course it is. it is worth flashing back for a moment to know that rupert murdoch was hostile to president trump back in 2015. it was roger ales who pushed for it and murdoch came around when it looked like he would be the nominee. but it is interesting to see some cracks here. and certainly we ve heard from the wall street journal board, the push for republicans to look forward, to stop relitigating 2020 and that is what trump is interesting in doing. so that is interesting. we ll have to watch this as it plays out in the months ahead. but i want to give you breaking news. a few moments ago, bill stepian is no longer appearing today.
hard evidence? there is evidence. there are we have the receipts, essentially, to show that congressman perry and others did explicitly request pardons from the trump white house. joining me now, cnn chief political correspondent and co-anchor of state of the union and cnn anchor and correspondent pamela brown. take us through, pam, what we are going to see today. well, there will be five key witnesses. taking center stage is bill stepian, the former trump campaign manager. a source tells me he has spoken with the committee previously. he will be testifying today under subpoena. and it will be a big deal if he comes out and does say that president trump former president trump lost the election and that te knew it. that he was advised of that. we don t know exactly if he s going to come out and say that, if he s going to be cooperative. one source telling me he s not necessarily going to be a friendly witness. he is advising, this is
was going to be what happened on election night. mr. stepien obviously could not with us today. it s the proper for him to be with his wife as they welcome their child. but he also had discussions with the president about the red mirage, that it would be a long night and that lots of votes would be counted during the night and the days after. let s play clip one from our interview with mr. stepien. i recounted back to that conversation with him in which i said just like i said in 2016 it was going to be a long night. i told him in 2020 that, you know, there were it was going to be a process again as, you know, the early returns are going to be, you know, positive, and we are going to be, you know, be watching the returns of
small dollar donors used scarce disposable income to support candidates and causes of their choosing, to make their voices heard, and those donors deserve the truth about what those funds would be used for. throughout the committee investigation, we found evidence that the trump campaign and its surrogates misled donors as to where their funds would go and what they would be used for. so not only was there the big lie, there was the big rip-off. donors deserve to know where there funds are going and they deserve better than what president trump and his team did. mr. chairman, i yield back. without objection, the chair recognizes the gentle woman from wyoming, ms. cheney, for a closing statement. thank you very much, mr. chairman. i would like to thank all of our witnesses today, and i would also like to in particular wish mr. stepian and his family all