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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:02:00

senses here. it does feel like we are at the, you talk about all the clichés we is about guardrails or what the binding constraint of the law is, this is actually the thing that we are now formally testing. the test is upon. as we knew it was coming. wondering how you are feeling about it tonight. the reality is is that if a former president can commit any crime, then we have a king and not a president, and it means that b by becoming president you achieve immunity from the law. i think the test here for merrick garland and the justice department was whether or not they were going to immunize donald trump from any and all conduct. and we knew that the d.a. in manhattan said he wasn t going to do it, but that is the state doing it. we anticipate that we don t know what fani willis is going to do, but if the federal government can say that by getting this one job that you have for four or eight years

Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:35:00

the mission to make the case why donald trump absolutely should not be president. you can t halfway these things. there is still a premise of the desantis campaign that trump will just go away. well, that s not going to happen. trump isn t going to go away. you know, ron desantis, just to be clear, he will not assert that donald trump lost a free and fair election. right now, he won t say that. and he will support donald trump if he is the nominee. yes. so that s the problem. uniquely unqualified to be president, going to run against him, but then they will support him. i totally agree. that first point, i think, is crucial as well. this is timmy the core existential thing. saying the election was rigged and i m not a part of the january 6th people saying insurrection is okay, it s saying we don t accept democratic defeats and saying that we don t actually believe in american democracy as the binding constraint on who

Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 07:35:00

you can t halfway these things. there is still a premise of the desantis campaign that trump will just go away. well, that s not going to happen. trump isn t going to go away. you know, ron desantis, just to be clear, he will not assert that donald trump lost a free and fair election. right now, he won t say that. and he will support donald trump if he is the nominee. yes. so that s the problem. uniquely unqualified to be president, going to run against him, but then they will support him. i totally agree. that first point, i think, is crucial as well. this is the core existential thing. saying the election was rigged and i m not a part of the january 6th people saying insurrection is okay, it s saying we don t accept democratic defeats and saying that we don t actually believe in american democracy as the binding constraint on who rules. all of that is bound up in that statement. in order to attack him on this,

Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 01:39:00

is defense information, and they are not returning them. so, potentially, they re not even obstructing that. here, there is that part after the documents were located, which is very very different. and it is going to be the penn biden center, and how they will be at mar-a-lago. it is going to be a little dissimilar. the attorney and no one away is the department of justice. so, the last thing here on national, security is that people hate this when i say this, but i said it when the trump thing happened to. it is clear, the classification system has metastasized out of control. there are millions of people with security can spirit see, and it was completely off the charts. there is no binding constraint, and it was an interest to classify, it s a c y a thing,

Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 08:39:00

it is going to be a little dissimilar. the attorney and no one away is the department of justice. so, the last thing here on national, security is that people hate this when i say this, but i said it when the the attorney and no one away is the department of justice. so, the last thing here on national, security is that people hate this when i say this, but i said it when the trump thing happened to. it is clear, the classification system has metastasized out of control. there are millions of people with security can spirit see, and it was completely off the charts. there is no binding constraint, and it was an interest to classify, it s a c y a thing, and there is no risk on the other side of it. broadly speaking, it is all at the center of the story, which you saw the hillary clinton emails, retroactively, we think

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