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proprietary mrna technology. we remain confident in our intellectual property supporting the pfizer/biontech vaccine, and will vigorously defend against the allegations of the lawsuit. >> some are arguing at least in an emergency situation, we need to at least temporarily waive patent rights to get more shots in arms. >> reporter: last year, moderna and pfizer reported $54 billion in covid vaccine sales combined. pfizer selling twice what moderna did. the highest one-year total for a pharmaceutical product in history. and the stakes are high. mrna technology is being used to develop drugs for everything, from hiv to autoimmune and cardiovascular diseases to cancer. >> erielle reshef joining us now. another health related headline got our attention tonight -- new concerns about the polio virus. and new york state officials say they're seeing sign of community spread. >> reporter: right, whit, officials here say they have

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bulletproof vest and protect the people. >> more of my conversation coming up on "nbc nightly news." another controversial topic is this issue of bail reform and so many critics, including police unions, are saying that is part of the reason why so many criminals remain on the streets and they attribute some of this crime linked to that. >> a lot of questions i have for you, commissioner bratton, we heard about this analysis of agencies. can i go back to the core? these numbers that we just talked about are so disturbing. how did we get here? do you think these are covid related? why are we seeing this huge spike in crime all across america? >> the influence of covid is impacting the court systems where many courts were not functioning during covid. case in point, new york city, over 5,000 people arrested for gun crimes in 2021, fewer than 100 trials in 2021.

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crime has gone through the roof and will continue because they have already told eric adams they're not willing to support the reform he is understands are so desperately needed. it will be interesting to watch the president and eric today and see what they come up with. i can guarantee the progressive left is going to attack it as soon as they come out with whatever they say they are planning to do. >> trying to strike that balance. commissioner bill bratton, gabe gutierrez, thanks so both of you. still ahead, the army immediately moving to discharge soldiers who refuse to get the coronavirus vaccine. and a rare interview with the founders of biontech where the pfizer vaccine was created in germany. don't go anywhere. t go anywhere. nurtec is the first and only option proven to treat and prevent migraines with one medication. onederful. one quick dissolve tablet can start fast and last. don't take if allergic to nurtec. the most common side effects were nausea, stomach pain, and indigestion.

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vaccinating. i don't know. is this something in the long run we'll be able to keep up with? >> i think we have to think about what the optimal vaccine policy is going to be. is this going to be something where we update strain changes the way we do with flu or something where we're satisfied with protection against serious illness, hospitalization, and death? i think that's sort of going to dictate what we do. but when you're trying to guess what strains are going to be coming up, just like with flu, it's a guessing game and you'll always be in a reactive stance, not proactive. that's why i think the better solution might be universal coronavirus vaccines, one that targets parts of the virus that don't mu tatd, not just for sars 2, but there are companies working on this and they are moving into clinical trials. hopefully a universal coronavirus will be the way we tackle this problem and don't have to get into this game of guessing. >> the numbers are still quite staggering here in the u.s. the average daily death toll is

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>> joining us now, nbc's molly hunter in london and a doctor at the hospital for center security. molly, you just got back from a rare interview with the two founders of biontech in germany of course where the pfizer/biontech vaccine was created. what's the headline? >> reporter: hey, chris. that's right. look, first, pretty incredible to meet them. it was an opportunity to say thank you. but we had a couple big questions going in. we asked them of course about the pending fda approval for those two doses for kids. they said they were excited about the two doses and definitely need a third dose coming down the pipeline for that more complete coverage just like the adult dosage. we also asked them, chris, about variant-specific vaccines. we asked them how quickly they could actually turn a new vaccine around after the detection of the new variant. take a listen. >> i think we understand how this virus operates.

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at the same time, defense secretary lloyd austin has informed seven republican governors their state's national guard members must be vaccinated against covid-19 amid an ongoing dispute between gop leaders and the pentagon over that mandate. pentagon press secretary john kirby responding right here on msnbc. >> we are rock solid and convinced that the secretary has the legal authority to mandate these vaccines, mandatory vaccines are not new in the military. we've been doing it since george washington at valley forge. this mandate is absolutely solid in terms of our authorities and we'll continue to pursue a mandatory vaccine regimen for the rest of the force. >> meantime, on capitol hill, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell is calling for an end to the covid-19 state of emergency. >> it's time we accept that covid is here to stay and we just need to get on with our lives. it's time for state of emergency to wind down.

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5,000 people walking the streets of new york who committed crime, many, violent crime, and basically the district attorneys and courts have not been effective in keeping up with the arrests the nypd is making. covid does have an impact, but the biggest impact is political. political leadership in this state, in particular california and elsewhere, has really disrupted the criminal justice system and reduced crime for 25 straight years in this country starting in 2019. disruptions to such an extent, we see the crime rates we just reported. those crime rates are not going down anytime soon. i'm sorry there's been such a nation of police, demoralization of police, a diminishing in police in terms of their numbers that they are not effective because they're not being supported by political leadership and the laws, the district attorneys, and the prosecution. it's a sad reality and won't change anytime soon. >> as you know, mayor adams mims a former nypd officer, released

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