i ll be on the stage and we ll have that debate. one last question before i let you go. if the former president is convicted of any of the crimes that he is accused of and that crime would put anybody else in jail, should he, the former president go to jail? look, dana, we re going to see how the trial goes. i will tell you this. there is a presumption of jail with these charges, and that s the truth of the matter. now at the time he ll be convicted heel be 78 or 79 years old, that also will be taken into consideration by any court as it would for any other 78 or 79-year-old person about whether they would go to jail or not either. okay. i don t want donald trump treated any differently than any other american, and i don t want him treated worse and i don t want him treated better. i want to make sure that the facts come out and if a jury finds him guilty i want a judge to make that call. governor, thank you very much for your time. appreciate it. happy fourth, dana. than
you to listen to what president biden said. he said this on thursday on msnbc. i think if we start the process of trying to expand the court we re going to politicize it maybe forever in a way that is not healthy. that you can t get back. that you can t get back. i d like you to respond to that, and also you mentioned a moment ago, judicial review. are you also saying that the justices power should somehow be limited? i truly do, and this is not a new development in history. this is part of our system of checks and balances. the courts, if they were to proceed without any check on their power, without any balance on their power, then we will start to see an undemocratic and frankly, dangerous authoritarian expansion of power in the supreme court which is what we are seeing now from the overturning of abortion rights to the ruling that
be considered in terms of college admissions? do we believe that women should have bodily autonomy and have the decision with her doctor about what happens to her body or do we not believe that? that s really what should is going to be about when it comes to the 24 election is what is the impact of this court and whether or not we want to have a president and a congress that will take action to move us in a different direction. all of these look, more than two-thirds of the colleges in america did want use race-based decision making and it was outlawed in large states like california and michigan and florida for years and years and we ve made all kind s of effort to provide for people that needed it. they ruled that they couldn t discriminate against people because of their race. governor, while i have i m the father of three asian daughters and the court ruled
years, but in two or three years. these are the conversations that we should be talking about and having, and the way we re going to solve these problems is by doing this together. another conversation that maybe the state department didn t want us to have because they released the report on a friday and it s a long-awaited after-action report on the afghanistan withdrawal. it found decisionses by both the trump and biden administrations severely undermine the government and it fails to anticipate the worst-case scenarios. what do you make of those findings. this started in the donald trump administration about pulling out and when joe biden said he was going to follow through with trump s intention, of course, the afghan military was not going to fight. they were worried about their future and they wanted to cut a deal with the taliban. the withdrawal from afghanistan was terrible. it was done in a chaotic order,
the bigger issue that is on my mind whenever i see this stuff in the policy space which is, again, who are you trying to help? who are you trying to make better off and what public policy problems do you get up in the morning thinking about how to solve? you know, we are focused on how to get things done and i spend my week traveling around the country to places that are benefiting from infrastructure funding. we are in appalachia that will help them wantnot only improve road and protect them from a dam in the future. a few weeks ago we were in north dakota where there was a railroad crossing that was a community headache and thanks to president biden s bipartisan infrastructure founds we finally have the resources to do something about it and we will make that better and have it not be a problem holding back first responders.