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People in in complete secrecy. nobody has any idea this person is coming in until after the fact. now, democrats are going to begin debating what their next steps will be as they come back to washington next week. theres a push internally to force a vote to actually authorize a formal impeachment inquiry. today john garamendi, a democrat intluns within the caucus raced the specter of doing that. others i talked with are echoing that call. they believe they could call the presidents bluff. one im...

>> what tells you that? >> well, the letter from the white house. they want to fight? okay. lets arm ourselves completely and totally with the full power of congress. the votes, im sure, are there. >> reporter: its very unlikely that votes going to happen within the next week, but what will happen within the next week is a debate in the democratic caucus about the strategy to move forward. nancy pelosi will be on that call. this topic will almost certainly come up next week. there are several me...

This? how should she? >> i think she has several options. and again, what the white house is trying to do is to make this all about process, which you were talking about at the top of the show. thats exactly right. and in some cases, the parallel between, you know, clinton and trump is they want to make the argument, like we made it, that this isnt fair. its very difficult given the underlying facts and what theyve released to make that argument. pelosi has a couple options. i think she can go b...

Annin flew -- an influential vote and saying lets call the white houses bluff. the white house said this is not a valid inquiry so have the vote and then the white house will have to stand on no grounds to turn over the information and if they dont do it then, then democrats argue it will only strengthen their case for the president obstructing congress which they say is an impeachable offense. >> manu raju from capitol hill. and lets discuss this with our panel. and i want to ta-- to start wit ...

Democrats say theyre calling the administrations bluff on stonewalling. >> they will ignore those subpoenas at their peril. you dont get to say no to a congressional subpoena. >> reporter: though claiming it wouldnt cooperate, the white house is gearing up for an impeachment fight any way. recruiting trey gowdy to help from the outside. the former south carolina congressman led the benghazi probe and once held this view on stonewalling. >> the notion that you can withhold information and documen...

The white house demands it is absurd. some say call the bluff. that might work with a normal white house but this white house doesnt give a damn about bluffs or facts and it will move the gold post and raise the bar and they are not a good-faith actor and it is not like the minute you have a vote theyll stop complying with the subpoena. there is a video on twitter from lindsey graham going on about how the moment nixon didnt comply with the subpoena, play that in every hearing because lindsey gr...

Will that give fodder for the president and his team, trey gowdy, and others to say, "i am on a second, when the president was on the phone with the ukrainian president talking about corruption, we want to know what hunter biden knows about that." maybe hes innocent. he hasnt been question, though. or brought in. if they get that subpoena power after vote, that would be big. the other key here is the politics of it. we will go back to that. the fact of the matter is that nancy pelosi doesnt want...

The year. we have put the question to administration officials, what if the house speaker calls your bluff, effectively, and holds a vote? the answer to that is, they wont engage in hypothetical questions, andrea. >> indeed. jeff mason, what about the hiring of trey gowdy who led the house oversight investigation into hillary clinton in the benghazi which led to the email revelations. trey gowdy was a tough chairman, hes now been brought in use outside counsel. what does he bring to the table? >...

You name it. the nba is uniquely positioned here to actually call chinas bluff on account of the fact that more than half the population actually engages in that content. i think thats an important lesson for every media and entertainment company that has a powerful asset in the middle kingdom. >> we have a situation going on where countries are going to try to control speech around the world. now china is trying to get to a point where theyre trying to say this is what you cant say or were goin...

His statement he says that he is roadwayy to testify. i think we could see adam schiff attempt to call that bluff. >> lets talk about the feeling, is this still part of that plan. are they daring nancy pelosi to move forward and work on impeachment? >> i think it is still part of their investigations, theyre also daring nancy pelosi on a vote. they have been saying that they see this investigation on capitol hill as illegitimate.