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>> i think some of this obviously is bluster are trying to swing things a certain way. and so some of those threats for ouster may not actually come to pass, at least as quickly as as some thought. but with that said, i do think that flank of the party will keep putting the pressure on johnson. i think it's more of a question of testing the waters within their own party as to how much they want to go into another speaker battle that has then a difficult process for republicans to. this congress. and with an election year, it's something that i think many representatives just simply don't want to go there at this moment. but for johnson, he's going to be feeling that pressure. >> you're talking about that flank of the party donald trump was largely quiet on this bill, but his position generally on the issue was quite clear. so this was a big blow for trump and the maga forces, though. i guess it's something that they can use to further rile up their base in this election cycle. >> yes, largely so and i would point out there was a different bill on the table several months ago that did include

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the former president in court. criminal defense attorney bill bretton is here. he served as an attorney on the 2022 trump organization trial in front of this same judge, i might add bill. i'm glad that you're here. i want to pick your brain about this because trump is again saying david, he is going to testify. and of course that might be bluster. it might in fact be a guarantee. we don't know. but what do you think his lawyers are advising him and about the possibility even getting on that stand well, thanks for having me. first of all, our hello, le you guys are both former federal prosecutors. i'm sure you'll agree that the lawyers are unlikely to be supportive of the former president's statement. and i can tell you, having been trying cases since the 80s, the late 80s, that that is a battlefield decision and it's the last decision you make in a trial. you don't as

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the consequences could be for how the case goes on about it just seems like the order effectively has no effect. >> it seems like that. i mean, it's very difficult to have another interpretation other than he must just not care. i mean, obviously these fines don't mean much to him, although i was thinking earlier today, this is a man spy magazine as a bit once sent him a check for $0.13 and he did cash it the idea that this is some insignificant amount of money and he doesn't care the history refutes that what you think about his lawyers though, how they carry themselves. >> i mean, trump's lawyers publicly & on cable tv, there's a lot of bluster. what are they like in the courtroom and is a different well, it was interesting today during this hearing, the sandoval hearing this afternoon, the lawyers really got reprimanded for fighting the judge on every little thing. the judge said, basically enough is enough if you think that you're going to delay this trial, you are wrong. this trial is going to begin on monday and it was really a smack down moments with this, judge& with trump's attorneys. >> yeah. very notable. indeed,

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him the weekend prior that it would be immediate is that just bluster or how keen do you think iran is to actually lower the temperature look, i think iranians absolutely. >> i have no interest in an all-out confrontation with israel or the united states, which from a conventional military perspective, are much stronger than ron and could inflict much more harm on iran that the other way around but also, i think it's important for them to make sure that they do not signal weakness. the reason that iran mounted, but very calibrated the massive attack on israel, which resulted in no casualty, was precisely because it wanted to say it in an attack on its own soil would be a red line and it was worried that israel, after attacking its constant, which is akin to another country so it would feel that it can cross that line as well. >> so i don't believe that

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respond to immediately and with maximum effect that clearly has not happened so how keen do you think iran is to lower the temperature now while iran is famous for its bluster and it's harsh rhetoric, the foreign minister is not a significant actor in iran decision-making circle, and he certainly would not be a dominant voice in the discussion as to how much strategic risks russia, iran would take on. >> i think you've also seen a great success of us diplomacy, where the united states and its partners put diplomatic pressure on israel and iran to restrain themselves and to prevent this from becoming a broader conflict. >> i think iran has responding to this pressure as well. because it does want to maintain engagement with europe asia, and regional actors in terms of that decision-making circle that you just mentioned, my colleague katie bo lillis and i have just written about how last weekend's strike by iran against israel has

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iranians an off ramp, if you will, to allow the iranian government to choose not to retaliate without losing face because you are not hearing israel crowing about this, gloating about this, rubbing the iranian face in it. from iran's perspective, they're downplaying this attack, we heard from the iranian president this morning, he said nothing about the strike, iranian state media is saying the situation is calm, civilian air traffic is flying as normal. and despite all the bluster we have heard from iran's revolutionary guard corps over the last week saying that any israeli attack of any size would be met with immediate retaliation, the iranian government at this point is not blaming iran and they're not promising to retaliate. now, it is worth saying this morning's strike did not happen in a vacuum. april 1st israel allegedly bombed near the iranian consulate in syria, killing seven senior members of the

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is not lost, are you or any of us, it most certainly is not lost on the government. >> and how do you think they intend to respond? is this bluster his threats of it being immediate? a maximum level and decisive or is there some meat on that bone well, depending on if which we're getting conflicting reports, i mean, some reports that actually playing down the nature and severity and strategic messaging of the israeli strike. >> so we'll see what the response is. the other thing that i find it interesting is if perhaps they did actually strike uranium iranian fighter jets on in an error in an air base, they would be some interesting symmetry, almost be poetic, because the iranians tried with their barrage of missiles and drones to strike an israeli air force base and never team and destroy israeli f35 fighter jets. so it'd be certain amount of symmetry of the israelis then turned around

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inside of syria was because, for the first time in a long time, the israelis started announcing their activities and when you start announcing that to the real world, it kind of inspires and almost requires a response on the part of your adversary. this notion of no comment seems to go back into the long—standing policy of the iranians to admit nothing, to accept nothing and to explain nothing, which is — i'm glad to see they have gone back to that if they are doing that because in many ways, the lack of information, the lack of bluster actually comes down but of all comes down the situation a bit. i of all comes down the situation a bit. ., ., _, of all comes down the situation a bit. ., ., ., a bit. i want to come back to something — a bit. i want to come back to something you _ a bit. i want to come back to something you said - a bit. i want to come back to something you said earlier i a bit. i want to come back to l something you said earlier and believe this is israeli missile strike took place is near isfahan —— calms down. what more do we know about that

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newark america to do that. >> brian: i love when they counsel america what to do. so insightful and beneficial: this airstrike now we know this airstrike had been scripted out and was about to be executed. >> yeah, brian. he's got to say whatever he is saying, right? the bluster all about we talk a lot about information warfare. information as an element of national power. that's what this is all about, trying to get the word out there that we're big, we're strong, we're tough, you know, we're going to strike. they have been striking american bases through their proxies. and what israel did here was really what i call a strategic spoiling attack when you are on the defense you should reach out and on their home turf and put them off balance. iran is really thinking like we have been saying these guys can come in and dismantle anything that we have and we won't even know about it.

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