you about the challenge for the new legal team. steven, i ll start with you with donald trump. which is you don t know what you are defending if you don t know the whole story. and that has been a common complaint of the outgoing legal team. that s a real big problem for any criminal defense attorney. and you really have to rely on your client to give you as much information as the client can truthful, full some information, without that you are kind of flying blind and it can be a very, very scary thing scary place to be. similarly, you want to look at every single piece of paper that mr. mueller has. so the only way to combat that is preparation and great communication with your client. without those two things you are really in a dangerous place. mimi, have you had a client that you knew wasn t being truthful but you were stuck representing him anyway? how did you handle it? i mean, there is no question that donald trump not telling his counsel everything in the
why would it happen soon. trump he if mooler subpoenas him and it goes to the supreme court it s not really up to him. it will take months to play out but i don t think it could take until next year. it s may now. court goes out of session in june. one of the thing that benjamin wittist pointed to out. mueller would slow down his investigation. and trump would have to testify right in the middle of the mid terms. most american voters are not part of republican base. they i think would be really alarmed at the prospect of a president no but when office midterm if he can fibre up the republican base with the idea that he is being pursued a la clinton. yeah. it will help him i don t think it s going to help him that much necessarily.
you could look at it as yes gearing up for a political fight but also expanding to a team that knows how to handle it. it s all part of the same game. if you replace lawyers, they have six weeks to get up to speed. that pushes it into june. he is a delayer and an off few skater. nothing he says about this can be taken at face value. as a result i think you take what has happened and analyze it as such. the special counsel has been serving almost a year. we have been talking whether or not he is going to talk to the special counsel for almost a year and we will be talking about it for another year. do you think? wow. by the way, michelle, i will let you react. steve bannon is taking a victory lap on the ty cobb firing. departure, retirement, however they want to word it. pardon my french there. but steve bannon sells kristen welker. he should have been fired the moment he advocated waving
and a former associate counsel in the ken starr investigation. mimi let me start with you. you are here. you know rudy giuliani a little bit. he is also a veteran of the sdny up here. you see what rudy giuliani is doing with his new set of lawyers. what do you read into this? they will certainly taking as you said a more aggressive political stance. how this plays out legally, though, there are only so many options available, no matter who your lawyer is and how aggressive you are politically. now, if it comes to if they can t work out some agreement with this interview and mueller does in fact subpoena him, you know, he s really left with the choice of either complying with that subpoena, ending up in a grand jury room under oath with no lawyer which i think would be the worst case scenario for someone like trump or he has to take the fifth and assert executive privilege.
sense that he doesn t understand i think sort of how his actions can be perceived legally. so i don t think he s you don t they he is withholding. he doesn t knowity he should be disclosing. he may or yeah, i think there is a big piece of that going on with this client in particular. i think it s interesting that people were sort of shocked at how detailed the questions that came out oh, wow. of course he does. mueller knows so much more than trump knows and than his lawyers know. and there is not a great option for that counsellor. just for following the story in the public domain, you could have coming up with 48 of those 49 questions. there is one you couldn t have. thank you both for your expertise. up ahead, the democrats dilemma. nancy pelosi has made it clear, she does want to be speaker of the house again. what does that mean for the mid terms? does it? and what about all those