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Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20220104 02:17:00

includes this 22-page strategic communications plan that s dated december 27th. you see the subhead there in red, we are ten days to execute this plan and certify president trump. it s not really a plan, it s basically a set of talking points. but this is what they say is their talking points message targeted to, quote, everyone. you cannot let america itself be stolen by criminals. you must take a stand and you must take it today. again, that document, dated december 2020, saying that they had ten days until january 6th to sort of get president trump certified for another term even though he had lost the election. that 22-page document is one of the documents reportedly handed over to the january 6th investigation by bernie kerik. but here s the really interesting part. he also handed over what his lawyer is calling a privilege log. now, a privilege log is a real thing in court proceedings, when

Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20220104 02:06:00

essentially the doctor for the house and the senate, advising a maximal telework posture for congress. the senate is supposed to be in session this week. we will see how that plays out. and we ll have more a little later on this hour as to what s going on with hospitalization numbers. we have seen over the past couple of weeks as case numbers have just gone off the charts. but infectious disease experts, including dr. anthony fauci, have been telling us now that we ought to be watching the hospitalization numbers much more closely than we re watching the case numbers. if we want to get a sense of how much this thing, this new wave is really going to take us apart, we really need to watch hospitalization numbers, not just case numbers. and when you do start looking at the hospitalization numbers, what you re seeing might surprise you. it does not necessarily comport with the sort of common wisdom and common anecdotal discussion of what s going on with this wave. you re going to want to

Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20220104 02:18:00

somebody as part of a court proceeding has to hand something over, but something can t be handed over because of the type of document it is, because it is implicated in it implicates the attorney/client privilege or some other privilege that should shield it from being handed over to the court. privilege logs are a real thing. privilege logs don t look like this. what bernie kerik produced as his, quote, privilege log, this is like the bazooka bubble gum wrapper version of a privilege log. but it is his explanation to the january 6th investigators what he has not handed over to them and why. he s handed them a trove of documents. he has not given them everything they ve asked for. this is his privilege log that explains why they re not getting some things he has. and it s not a document that overall inspires confidence. literally here is kerik s description of one of the things he s not handing over to the investigation because he says

Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20220104 05:29:00

but it was not until today that we learned that the attorney generals office is also sipping trump s children, trump jr., and ivanka trump. both of them had long been executive at the family business as sister brother eric, who testified in this investigation already last year. the new york attorney general apparently wants testimony from all of them now. now, what attorney general letitia james is conducting here in new york is a civil investigation. which means that the end result could be a lawsuit by the attorney general, not criminal charges. but that s not necessarily a small thing. it has been lawsuits from the new york attorney general office that have successfully dismantled donald trump s fraudulent trump university and his bogus trump foundation charity thing. neither of those exist anymore and millions of dollars had to be paid in shutting them down in settlements for those lawsuits. so the civil lawsuit from the new york attorney general is a powerful thing and that may be

Transcripts for MSNBC The Rachel Maddow Show 20220104 02:00:00

thanks, chris. that is all in on this monday night. the rachel maddow show starts right now. good evening, rachel. good evening, chris. how was your holiday? oh, it was wonderful. it was truly, truly joyous and wonderful. cooked a lot of good stuff. got to see some family members that i hadn t seen in a while. spent some time together. i m big on the christmas tree and all that stuff, really into the holiday music, the whole thing. it was great. how was yours? do you have any regrets about the matching pajamas? never, no. that s one of our favorite that s who we are. that s who we are. the first year i was like, really, we re doing this? we got matching pajamas for our dog shadow who is in the picture. i will say, i feel like it s a far-reaching decision by and you kate, being like, listen, our kids seem to like us, they seem to like each other, let s give them something easy and safe to rebel against. exactly. and really, really decide

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