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correctly that it's the next big thing and they're making a very similar bet right now in the world of robotics. so as that begins to take off, they're gonna continue to be ahead of everybody. >> phidias value just tripled from 1 trillion to 3 trillion in under a year but video doesn't actually manufacture anything. they outsource that. they design still. >> this is now the second largest corporation on our planet with all our futures in its manicured hands toward holding this is the most complex, highest performance computer the world's ever made. >> that's why you have to care now, in the next few years, the competition is going to heat up in this marketplace for making the chips that train ai. >> but some analysts say that right now nvidia has maybe up to 95% share of that market. they've got a huge head start on their main competitors in intel and amd. amd just launched a new chip in video says are going to launch new chip every year, that 3 trillion valuation and peaceful world column just said maybe that's an undervaluation. >> credible. all right. thank you very much. nick watt and thanks to all of you as always, ac30, 60 starts now tonight on 360 real warriors and people don't. trump is now calling warriors, namely the violent mob that storm the capitol, keeping them on it let's take the difference also tonight, hundred biden's fate now in the hands of a jury, how the defense and prosecution did and making their case. plus the latest in a string of cnn exclusives on deck kids of sexual abuse, the coast guard academy. tonight of coast guard official breaks are silenced and says she was part of what she now calls a cruel coverup. good evening. thanks for joining us. we begin tonight. keep romanness with something the former president has been saying a lot lately. and what it says about him. sunday as president biden was visiting the american military cemetery outside paris and frehse, marking the 80th anniversary of d-day and at normandy, donald trump was saying this there's never been people treated more horrifically. then j6 hostages. but those j6 warriors, they were worries but they were really more than anything else. they are victims of what happened all they were doing is protesting a rigged election that's what they were doing and then the police he said, going go in, go in, go in water, set-up. that was that's the former president of the united states sunday in las vegas. and just to refresh your memory, these are the people he was honoring, specifically the ones in prison for crimes they committed on january 6 or jail awaiting trial. and it's certainly not the first time he's called these people hostage. >> ladies and gentlemen, please rise for the horribly at unfairly treated very six toss ditches it's now part of his routine that recording. he standing and saluting four features him saying the pledge but of allegiance while these inmates, whom he calls hostages sing the star spangled banner and calling them hostages in november after actual hostages were taken by hamas reading a daring military operation in gaza after almost eight months of mental and physical torment at the hands of hamas. and we'll have more on that tonight. >> but those are actual hostages. >> trump would have you believe the january 6 inmates are hostages and also warriors and victims? he said that two victims he also claims were invited in by police. so they're warriors and their hostages and their victims. and they're also according to him, lovers the love the love in the year i've never seen anything like it. there was also a loved fast between the police, the capitol police, and the people that walked down to the capital so stir that in with all the rest. and here's the former president is reshaping the attack on the capitol. peaceful protesters full of love invited into the capitol by police who loved them and return, but who somehow tricked them and made them victims, who then turned into warriors who are now being held hostage. let me introduce you to one of these man who's presumably a warrior and trump's size daniel rodriguez, this is his photo was posted on social media by username deepstate dogs. rodriguez was part of the mob that attack police with metal poles and bateson stolen riot shields and chemical spray. and in his case has stun gun. he attacked officer michael fan-owned with it, who later suffered a heart attack and traumatic brain injury rodriguez pleaded guilty like so many others have and was sentenced to 12.5 years in prison. his is one he's one of the people, the former president is calling a hostage. and it shouldn't come as a surprise that trump is unfamiliar with what a warrior actually is. casey is watching, here's one from d-day technician fifth grade john jay pinto junior. he waited through machine gun and artillery fire carrying a vitally important radio assured omaha beach, which he did despite being wounded once then again, making several trips back through enemy fire to get more equipment ashore until he was wounded a third time and died technician pender was awarded the congressional medal of honor posthumously. president trump refused to visit the same cemetery that president biden. so many other presidents have over the years. and according to his former chief of staff, from being corps general john kelly, quote in the atlantic, he said, why should i go to that cemetery? it's filled with losers had he gone, he might have learned what being a awarded are truly means separately the former president now a convicted felon, met by video conference today for a pre-sentencing interview with the new york probation officer, joining us tonight, former republican congressman and house january 6, committee member adam kinzinger, also seen an chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst, john miller and former fbi deputy director andrew mccabe, congressman. first of all, what is your as somebody who is actually serve? what is your reaction to the foreign president calling the riders warriors and hostages and victims? >> i mean, it's. it's thick and disgusting obviously i think we have to be careful to not allow this outrage to just numb us like this really should be. and thank you for putting this at the top of the show. there should be at the top of every new show anywhere in the country at how agreed jus and terrible, this as they're not for years. the ones that went into the capital, most of them, if not all of them, have been arrested and tried. and interestingly, anderson at the beginning when they started to get arrested, they were remorseful. and then this right-wing ecosphere put their arms around them singing the national anthem and stuff and in that process can vince them that they were victims and have made them martyrs and heroes. this is not something americans that aren't completely sold out to the cult should be, should accept and we should have this be a fresh outrage every day when he does stuff like this, it's also entering andrew. i mean, i know some actual warriors. they're not people who usually view themselves as victims or just sort of helpless victims. very often, how dangerous do you think it is for law enforcement and andrew and the public when you are the former president gaslighting his supporters because i mean back in 2022, there was a guy of set about federal authorities searching mar-a-lago for classified documents. he was killed after trying to shoot his way into an fbi field office in ohio. it feels like du the congressman's point the former president just says this stuff and people just kind of ignore it. but i mean it has repercussions potentially yeah. >> so let's get the facts out first on this warriors claim. so as of january 6, 2024, which is most recent numbers, i could find, we've got 1,265 people have been charged in as a part of that january 6 case 718 of them on that by that de had already gone into court. raise your right hand, sworn to tell the truth, then said i did it. i'm guilty to the weather. it's trespassing or obstruction of official procedure or assault on police officers and others. so the idea that these people are somehow being held against their will for political reasons is absolutely absurd. and donald trump knows that's absurd. he knows it because he spent four hours that day watching the video tapes from behind the cloister walls of the white house in the warm embrace of his secret service security team. >> so he knows exactly what happened that day. >> he knows those people were rioters and its direction us and many of them have to their credit stepped up and taken responsibility for that. the thing that i cannot get past anderson is how many people give him a pass for saying absurd and sickening only false things like this. and you're right, these false hoods that he, that he throws out in front of his rallies and supportive it is for political advantage, but it comes with the cost of driving up risk to people in the system, law enforcement prosecutors, and others. and you made the perfect example. ricky schifflin, who was outraged by what he undoubtedly heard the president say after the mar-a-lago raid decided to take it out violently on the fbi's cincinnati field office, that could happen any day anywhere around the country to any fbi agent or other federal officer by somebody similarly misguided. >> also, i'm congressman. it's just i mean, it's kinda it's just i mean, it's sickening that the former president basically saw this so the october 7 hostages being held by hamas and islamic jihad and others as a branding opportunity and i think according the washington post in november's when he started using the term hostages for the for those who have been found guilty of crimes on on january sales x and re-brand braise, branding them january 6, hostages. i mean, it's it's really worked it is really warped in that was various student view to notice is that he never used hostages until there were real hostages. >> some of which are still being held, some have been killed that are being held against their will. i mean, look, i'm probably started with marjorie taylor greene two she she came up with some of that, but i think the biggest thing to take off of what mccabe said is we're all the members of the house and senate, including the ones who after january 6 stood up, lindsey graham, i'm done with this guy. we had a hell of a run, but i'm done you think of like marco rubio, all these people that know better, that just keep their heads down and don't say a word. this is threatening the very fabric of domain microscopy because all we have to have for democracy to survive is a basic compact that your vote, you can vote, your vote will count and the person that wins wins. that's what donald trump was tearing apart that basic contact contract. that is the only requirement for democracy to survive. and he is turn these people that violated the rule of law into martyrs. and by the way, if we don't have rule and law in this country, democracy can't survive either and he is just an absolute il, fit mentally flawed is probably the nicest way i can say it. former president and candidate for future president in america has to reject him. >> john, i know you have new reporting on the former president's meeting today or interview with probation officials, which is a normal part of this procedure. what happened? >> so today donald trump with his lawyer, todd blanche, over a microsoft teams connection, had this virtual meeting to prepare to assist probation department in new york city with preparing the pre-sentencing report that goes to the judge it was an unusual meeting in that present there was the commissioner of the new york city department of probation wanted to homes her general counsel, bridget hamline, and the probation officer who would normally be there by himself or with another officer who would do the interview. the interview was led by commissioner homes and to the official who was briefed on the interview afterwards told me that at all times donald trump answered the questions which were things about what are your living situation, any health issues family history, where do you spend more time? new york or florida? a lot of things that donald trump, but thank every everybody already knows. but commissioner home said these are the normal questions. we're going to put you through these questions they said he was polite, he was respectful, and that at the end of the meeting, he wished them well and ended the call with be safe and we just got speaking in new york city mayor giuliani, former mayor giuliani's mug shot from arizona authorities. he's been he was hard to get a subpoena. subpoena to. he found they finally did. this is his his his mug shot that's not the mug shot. will try to get it he's pleaded not guilty there to charges of trying to overturn the 2020 election results what what happened to him well, this has been an amazing rise and fall from a kind of prosecutor built on the image of thomas dewey going after the mom i've been crooked politicians to a mouthpiece for donald trump as president. >> and then the lead counsel by the way, this is the mug shot that was another mug shot of his, which clearly he's gotten a lesson from that prior mug shot because this one is smiling at least that's right there prior mug shot was from the georgia cases. >> so now he's on his second mug shot, but he has he has he has hitched himself to the donald trump wagon, but he's also been through multiple breakups and divorces. he's lost millions and millions of dollars. he's in bankruptcy see his apartment is up for sale and it was amazing to see someone who was the face and the voice of law and order in new york city for so long and then the mayor for two terms, a law and order meir, be someone who's going on his second mug shot and who has been disbarred and barred from the practice of law in multiple places. >> endrew in a series of interviews over the past week, the foreign president has talked about, been asked about this whole retribution seeking. he talked about running. i am your retribution. he had said months ago. i just want to play some of what he said well, revenge does take time. >> i will say that does. and sometimes revenge can be justified. i have to be honest, you know, sometimes it can look when this election is over based on what they've done. i would have every right to go after them and it's easy because it's joe biden, but very terrible thing. it's a terrible precedent for our country does that mean the next president does it to them? that's really the question so in terms of if he is president using the levers of the justice department, the fbi, to go after political opponents in a second term. how would that how would he go about that? i mean, how how feasible is that? >> well, i think it's entirely feasible. i mean, it's it's interesting to me that across those interviews, interviews with people who are like dr. phil and others who are trying to get him to walk away from those claims. >> he soft pedals it a little bit, but then you get down farther in front of the rally crowds and really hits at home it's it is absolutely clear, said it many times in front of many different people. >> he intends to take the levers of power if he is reelected and use them for his own personal retribution goals, which in and of itself is so unbelievably offensive should be to any american than any american president would purport to do such a thing. can he do it? sure, he can do it if he follows through with the plan that he's already laid out, this 2025 plan that they've talked about. >> you'll replace those folks insignificant positions. >> the department of justice and the fbi and other lawn federal law enforcement entities with flunky who will do whatever he says. >> the first steps in this process of trumping up charges against people baselessly and throwing them in jail could actually happen. >> i think it gets tougher when those cases start to make their way through the courts but that takes a long time. and so i think it's reasonable that people who think they might be on the former president's enemies list start thinking about what does that look like? what could that, how can that actually play out? in your lives? and i think people are having those conversations just trying to figure those things out as we speak. >> interim cave, adam kinzinger, john miller. thank you. can we up next closing arguments in the hunter biden's federal gun trial. and what jurors are now deliberating and later the rescue of those four israeli hostages from gaza. how it wind down who helped and more of your back bike riders, some people would rather cry slowdown there was a golden age. >> motorcycles and took my breath away i built this club, added is his. >> my family the club is changing what do you want me to do mark writers were your door only beaters june 20, you give 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delaware jury more now in the charges the trial and closing arguments from cnn's paula reid in a major show of support, hunter's family members and pastor taking up three rows in court today have known the parameter you don't abandon your friends and family tough time in closing arguments, prosecutors pointed to the gallery of supporters and said those people are not evidence and reminded the jury that no one is above the law. the prosecution directly address the most difficult element they have to prove that hunter biden knowingly lied on a federal background check form when purchasing the gun at the center of this case, the defendant knew he used crack and was addicted to crack at the relevant time period, adding that hunter would have been aware from his time in rehab that he had a problem with drugs maybe if he had never gone to rehab, he could argue he didn't know. he was an addict at the end of his closing, prosecutor, leo wise circled back to testimony from hunters daughter, naomi, on friday, when she told the jury that when she returned her father's car to him on october 19, 2018, she did not see any the evidence of drugs, but why is reminded the jury hunter's former girlfriend, hallie biden, his brother, beau biden's widow, had testified that when she found the gun in the same car days later, she found it alongside drug paraphernalia defense attorney abbe lowell countered, warning jurors not to convict his client in properly adding it's time to end this case. he compared the trial to a magician's trick, trying to dupe the jury, saying, watch this hand pay no attention to the other one. >> he accused prosecutors of cherry picking evidence to present a more timeline of hunter's drug use and said his client was not lying when he marked down that he was not an addict on that federal form lowell attack, two of hunter's former girlfriends who both served as prosecution witnesses in this case. he noted zoe kestan took pictures of hunter with drugs, but not in the key month of october 2018, he also reminded the jury that hallie biden could not remember specific details about when she found the gun in hunter's car? >> and noted hunter was the one who told highly to file a police report for the missing gun after she threw it out hunter did not take the stand to testify in his own defense in this case, a move that would have come with potential rewards and definite risks the jury will be back here at court tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. to continue their deliberations. it's impossible to say how long it will take them to reach a decision on these three counts? but i was important earlier today, and then we're also attentive as the judge explain the instructions page by page, line-by-line. >> these are of course, the rules that they need he to follow as they undertake this historic decision. >> anderson all right. thanks so much more now and how prison biden's handling the weight for the verdict and the biden family presence throughout the trial, including the first lady who went back and forth during the french visit to be in court with her stepson. cnn's mj leaves the white house for us tonight. what are things like in the white house as they await the jury? >> well, you know, the trial of the president's son has been an extraordinarily sensitive issue for this white house the president, and it is not a coincidence that the president himself has barely commented on the ongoing trial. we heard him, of course, make a statement at the beginning king of the trial thing that he loves his son and that he is proud of him for showing resilience as he has fought addiction issues. and then the other rare exception, of course, was recent abc interview where the president was asked whether he would pardon his son whether he would rule that out actually, and his answer, a one word answer was simply yes. he would rule that out. >> the president anderson has been really clear that he is going to accept the outcome of the trial no matter what happens. >> and that he's just not going to comment on his son's case as the jury is deliberating that, of course, is in line with the president's sort of broader view that you just don't comment on a trial file or a legal proceeding when it is still making its way through the legal system and i should just note that that is an important area where the president had sought to draw a contrast between himself and the former president, whom he has accused of trying to put his thumb on the legal system on an influence in a political way other areas and other issues at the former president has dealt with this. of course, the president has made clear he sees as being wholly inappropriate mj lee. >> thanks. much at the white house tonight, joining us now cnn legal analyst norm eisen and jennifer rodgers, also former federal judge. sure. shen lin norm what do you make of closing arguments? >> do you think he's gonna get convicted? >> i thought both sides did an able job in closing arguments. the prosecution hammering the evidence that hunter biden was using or addicted to drugs before and after this key october 12 two 23rd period. they don't have actual evidence throughout the day, but they have yes. and the judge in directed that you don't have to prove the de you have to show that hunter biden was actually engaged in using or was an addict around that time and they have him checking into rehab before and after the various witnesses. but anderson abbe lowell is a very capable defense lawyer and he leaned into that critical gap. and the state of mind question this has to be knowing. that means it hunter biden had to say on purpose, not by mistake i'm not an addict. i'm not a user. and lowell argues well, he thought he was not an addict at that time, and there's no proof he was using prosecution ahead on points not impossible. you get a defense verdict or a hung jury what, do you think? >> yeah, i agree. i mean, i think they'll probably get a conviction here. there's a very narrow path for the defense to win this. they really do have to lean into this knowingly and they can't prove it on these days, but prosecutors always say follow your common sense, right? like the guy has been in rehab, people around that time, there's these text messages it's about dealing and the hallie biden testimony about paraphernalia in the car. and so use your common sense, was that argument does that make sense to you that well, i didn't think i was an addict on that day and therefore, i signed this document, say i'm not an addict. i think it's the only argument that the defense has a question is, can the jury accepted and i think contrary my fellows here, i friends here. maybe maybe some jury juror or more jurors who are sympathetic to what he's gone through and may have experienced something like that sometime in their life i'm going to cut him a little slack and say well, on that day, maybe you didn't use so that takes care of the use. and as far as being an attic well, maybe that day he thought he'd come out of it and was no longer an attic because he was doing better even if felt if he fell off two days later so they might have a basis to draw that distinction if they want to, in your experience on the bench, i mean, is it tough for juries to see past this is the son of the president or someone to be famous very tough, very tough. >> and the family is a cut one way or the other. >> i mean, just think, well, i think it could cut in his favor the families there. it's a high-profile family. somebody might indeed think that he's going through this because of that. and again, as we all know, it only takes one to cause a hung jury. so i'm not as confident as my colleagues that there's gonna be a conviction here, but i wouldn't put my money on a non conviction either. >> you know, the prosecution is aware of this risk because the first thing the prosecutor said in closing was all those people sitting behind the defendant are not evidenced that's pretty unusual in my experience. that i actually has a little aggressive veto i mean, here are these people there to support him. lots of people on the jurors, the jury have had addiction in their families. and here's his loving family there to support them and they're going to point out of and be like don't pay attention to those people. i thought it was a little overly aggressive action, if anything, it could hide why it could have been it can boomerang because they're going to look over it when he said that, look right over at those three rows think about parents and sisters and children and all the rest of it. they could just override this if they want to know and there's also some breaking news in trump's classified documents. kids, judge aileen cannon denied the defense's effort to dismiss the indictment, but she also struck a paragraph from jack smith's indictment anderson this was a motion that the defendants had brought attacking this indictment every which way from sunday. >> they lost almost everything. and the question we should ask is, why did judge cannon for these relatively easy unexceptional challenges takes so long dragging it out. >> she didn't give one gimme to the defense it's one paragraph, paragraph 36. >> it has to do with what happened at bedminster that conversation about of the iran documents it's there as to give notice that the prosecution is going to introduce prior bad acts, but striking it was virtually or enough, judge and judge. >> judge, what what's going on? in my mind, i was pleased that she got this done so fast from may 22 to june content for her is practically speedy, so i was impressed that she didn't sit on this. obvious motion for very long. i have to tell you that motion is made in every case and it's never granted duplicitous snus multiplicities never works but they make it to preserve the record. nobody expects to win those motions. you do it to preserve so it didn't take her all that long to get this one done. >> i mean, given the history of other things, she has been delaying on our us surprised by the length. this thing is dragging out of in general in all the motions. but this motion was relatively fast. that's a good sign. maybe she's hearing us talking about her and she's getting her work done. who knows, but this i thought was relatively fast. and as far as that foro for be the similar act it is very clear that she that she is saying, but at trial, there may be a basis to offer this evidence, justice, and belong in the indictment. get it doesn't relate directly to the charge. >> jennifer, does this impact the the chance of this thing moving forward faster? >> i mean, the problem is we have so many outstanding motions that are complicated, time-consuming problematic seep emotions, the classified information, protection actin, and so on. it's just we're not moving forward in a way that it's good for going to trial. there's just so much should have saved those pages and all those words to resolve the other leg motions that she has on her show, she's trying to get one offer per desk. >> that's good. >> gentlemen. thank you. jennifer rodgers, norm eisen, thanks so much. i've next new video that dramatic rescue four israeli hostages over the weekend plus their condition. and the latest and attempts to secure a ceasefire nine out of ten people don't get enough fiber bennett fiber is the easy, gentle solution for every day. it's plant-based prebiotic fiber nourishes good bacteria in your gut, working with your body to promote digestive health with so many ways to enjoy benefit number is your fiber, your way world is about to burn your team. they are decent people but you and me we all long with decent this is your last shot at homelander fast because he was at trouble losing weight and keeping same discover the power of week-old into my janan to be. gobi. >> i lost 35 pounds as some lost the war, 46 pounds. >> we go. >> and i'm keeping the weight off. >> we go be helped you 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she wants israel and hamas to accept a ceasefire deal has been publicly supported by president biden also tonight we have new video and details of that rescue. your cnn's kylie atwood this is the view from the helmets of the israel defense forces, but they unleashed heavy gunfire searching for israeli hostages held by hamas a daring data i'm rate that freed four of those kidnapped by hamas on october 7 and held captive ever since. it wasn't operation that took weeks to plan after receiving intelligence that the hostages were being held in apartment buildings inside the nuseirat camp in central gaza. on the way out from gaza. all four this is rescued our hostages israeli forces have been preparing for this rescue mission for weeks and is rarely air force pilot involved in the mission told the jerusalem post, that is one of the hostages, noa argamani got into his helicopter, has units, quote, mantle of composure melted away the magnitude of the muscle helminths struck. then he quote immediately reported that the diamond is with us and in good health, some of the special forces were disguised as displaced palestinians and members of hamas military wing, eye eyewitnesses told cnn there were also reports of large gunfire after the hostages were rescued, at least 274 palestinians were killed in the operation, and hundreds injured. >> that's according to the gazan authorities who do not distinguish between civilian and military casualties the israel defense forces dispute that number, saying the death toll was under 100. >> i want to say thank you. thank god in israel, the families of the hostages express their overwhelming joy and having their loved ones returned safely after eight months in captivity. i haven't stopped smiling since my mug was returning to me now is work continues for a ceasefire and hostage deal with 120 hostages still held by hamas there are some theories at this rate, could be a setback it's a legitimate question. i it's hard for me to put myself in the mindset of a hamas terrorists. >> we know exactly what it is that they're going to do. as secretary of state, antony blinken travels to the middle east to continue ratcheting up pressure on hamas to take the deal. he also isn't sure what hamas will do. >> i can put myself, none of us can put ourselves so the minds of hamas or its leaders. so we don't know what the answer will be. >> but wall in egypt, blinken also said that his egyptian counterpart had been in touch with hamas quite recently. >> i can't go into the details of our conversations today except to say that are different counterparts were in communication with hamas as early as recently as a few hours ago. >> now, during his meeting with prime minister benjamin netanyahu today secretary of state antony blinken reiterated that the united states and other world leaders standby that comprehensive proposal that president biden laid out ten days ago, and they say that israel has put on on the table for hamas to accept. but so long as this period of uncertainty is extended, as us and other countries are waiting for hamas to respond to that proposal, the united states is concerned about the possibility of netanyahu changing his mind and deciding to reject that proposal, even though key signed off on it before for it initially went to hamas. >> anderson probably i would thanks. coming up. cnn exclusive, a us coast guard academy official resigns and breaks her silence about sexual assault allegations. and a decades-long corrupt at the academy right now, pet dander skin cells in dirt are settling deep into your carpet fibers. stanley steamer removes the dirt uc and the dirt you don't your corporates aren't clean until there's stanley he steamer clean and the same your best defense against erosion and cavities is strong enamel. >> nothing beats it. i recommend pro enamel active shields because it actively shields the enamel to defend against erosion and cavities. i think that this product is a game changer for 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hey we're handling this. >> we've got this. we're taking this seriously. thanks for coming forward but it turns out actually the coast guard hadn't told congress, norenberg didn't know it, but the investigation was quietly closed. >> so the decades of assault were kept hidden from congress and the public until a cnn investigation revealed at all last summer, victims were never given any recourse. >> i trusted the coast guard implicitly and i assume that the talking point document they handed me was true i would never have considered that might be ally. the cnn reports about operation fouled anchor have led to multiple federal investigations congressional hearings in an apology from the head of the coast guard, we fail to provide the safe environment that every member of the coast guard deserves. norenberg says, after seeing cnn's report, she feared she had been used in the cover-up. she found the talking points in her files recently, which confirmed it and started to read it. >> and i was like, that's not actually that's not what happened. they lied to me they lied to us. they had me lie. oh, my god. they had me lie to them. and actually that's when i lost it because at first i was like, wow, that's crazy. the light and then i was like, wait they used me to. lie wow they planned it as far back as 2018, not to tell anyone about this. protect the precious institution. they be trade, the victims of fouled anchor over and over and over. this is my boot camp photo norenberg says she was raped by a supervisor when she was an army recruit in 1988 and says she knows how it feels to be told there's nothing that can be done she is resigning and going public about what happened. >> the public needs to know this is happening. >> people sign up to serve their country, and this is how they're treated like trash. it's not okay. >> in response to a cnn request for comment, the coast guard says the talking points were created months before the meetings with the cadets. and we're not updated and then another former a coast guard official who was present at the meeting said, no victim was informed that congressional notifications occurred. >> i want to tell the victims of fouled anchor how sorry, i am to be a part of this terrible scheme. >> but let me try to make it right now. and i'm so sorry. >> i'm so sorry sometimes diprotic joins us now, what can you tell us about this hearing tomorrow? yeah. anderson, the head of the coast guard admiral live. linda fagan, should we testifying before the senate intelligence committee tomorrow? so be talking about the change hinges that she promised to make in the wake of cnn's previous reporting. >> and she has repeatedly said that she wants to learn from the past. >> she wants to move forward, but shannon norenberg's account here certainly adds the whole string of controversies showing that this sexual misconduct remains pervasive across the coast garden and definitely under gore's, that this is far bigger issue than she has 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farmers markets like this one in wahba, tulsa for the kennedy campaign he's coming to all voters and saying that if you vote for me, like you'll be able to afford to buy a house. first is i haven't necessarily heard biden say things like that, that appeal to me. if ultimately trump gets reelected how would you feel about that? >> i would feel really great about that if he was elected into office. but i i wouldn't necessarily feel any guilt because i was able to have a choice and who i wanted to vote for dog denticola is a long time democrat who never thought he would find himself lobbying trump's supporters. just switched to kennedy. >> what do you think this guy's go to 24. go watch reasoning you haven't even given him a chance because he doesn't ever which answer anyway, is it hard to convince trump's supporters to vote for kennedy? yeah, i actually just appreciate that he was willing to stop and talk to me, fed up with political polarization, denticola thinks kennedy can bring americans together and isn't worried about him taking votes from biden or trump a person like bobby kennedy, who is really a message of unity, a message for all people i think that's why he's going to actually pull a lot of voters from both sides back on deal's farm. >> i shared desire for unity to address a deeply divided country. if we don't make some changes, if find somebody who has creative solutions and had somebody we can trust, who wants to bring us together? we're gonna be in a world of hurt if it does rfk junior seemed to be pulling more votes away from biden or trump based on who you spoke to anderson kennedy's coalition of voters, they've really span the political spectrum polling data does indicate the largest contingent could actually be those who didn't support either candidate i didn't 2020 a lot of his support comes from these so-called double-haters. those holding unfavorable views of both biden and trump, anderson even can thank so much. the news continues, the sorts 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weeks. the israelis want a campaign. with lebanon even with yemen, we have seen the increased tensions. deploying troops and naval forces. none of that will stop until there is a cease-fire in gaza.'s almost there is a line drawn, diplomacy on any of these friends continue. the biden administration's credit has been cleared. they don't want to see a war but it is not up to them as we have seen with the israelis on the hostage cease-fire deal as well. so i think the risk is extremely high. and lebanon is the war of another magnitude. >> thank you so much. . there is a lot going on tonight. the former president of the united states and presumptive republican nominee had a meeting with the probation officer today, which i guess is the sort of thing we just have to get use to seeing these days. we will talk about what may have come up during the meeting and how it could impact his sentencing coming up in a month. pennsylvania governor josh schapiro was going to join me to talk about one of the biggest political questions of the moment. how should joe biden and democrats be talking about trump's conviction and how much? we will start with the supreme court. in a mountain of ethics scandals that just got bigger, and just get bigger because of a woman named lauren winsor. in case you don't know who she is, she is a progressive activist known to approach her public and figures and pretend she is an ally, statements and then record her targets making candid comments. comments recorded by lauren winsor at the supreme court historical society's annual dinner earlier this month, the supreme court justice samuel alito offered his assessment of the political and ideological struggle in america. >> i don't know that we can negotiate with the left in the way that needs to happen for the polarization to end. i think that it is a matter of, like, winning. >> i think your probably right. on one side of the other, one side or the other is going to win. i don't know. i mean, there can be a way of working, a way of living together peacefully, but it's difficult, you know, because there are differences on fundamental things that really can't be compromised. they really can't be compromised. so it's not like you can split the difference. >> one side or the other is going to win. now heard in a vacuum by someone, those comments may not seem particularly striking. but remember samuel alito is one of nine justices on the supreme court. the highest court in our country. it is supposed to conduct itself with utmost fairness and impartiality in interpreting our constitution and adjudicating the laws. and one of the justices, samuel alito, you just heard him, as telling a stranger at a crowded event, that he believes that one political side is going to win. that there is no place for compromised. and for anyone who has followed samuel alito's time on the court, there is no secret to what side the justice firm and thinks he is on. look at the past few weeks. he has refused to recuse himself from a generous six case in the trump immunity case sitting before the court currently. even after reports that his homes displayed flights with right wing political symbolism including an upside down american flag in the days after january 6th. samuel alito, who built a reputation over the course of years, has been tough on crime and generally unser but that it to criminal defendants and also has a newfound empathy for generally six defendants of all people and donald trump. during or go arguments in two cases. take for example, the case of a january 6th defendant. sim allele used costumes the justice department to question people in the capital attack. he suggested that if the court does not intervene, prosecutors could seek to use it against people involved in these will demonstrations like those that take place in a courtroom from time to time. but the protest is clearly not at all same as people are smashing windows and doors to invade the capital and causing members of congress and the republican vice president of the united states to flee for their lives. in the face of multiple ethics scandals, we have been talking about involving undisclosed gifts from her publican mega- donors to members of the supreme court, samuel alito has been unapologetic telling the wall street journal late last year that the quote "no provision in the constitution gives congress the authority to regulate the supreme court period." look, fairness and impartiality in both appearance and action are the principles judges are supposed to follow. especially in the highest court of the land. and at least at some point, samuel alito knew that. take a listen to an answer from his confirmation hearing back in 2006. >> to believe there is any room for a judge's own value or personal beliefs when he or she interprets the constitution? >> judges have to be careful not to inject their own views into the interpretation of the constitution. and for that matter, into the interpretation of statutes. that is not the job we are given. that is not the authority we are given. >> that is not the authority we are given. it is not the job we are given. alito knows or at least knew then what his job entailed. and despite all the actions and statements, he also apparently can't stand those who claim he is not living up to those standards. as he told the wall street journal, "everyone is free to express disagreement with our decisions and to criticize our reasoning as they see fit. but saying or implying that the court is becoming an illegitimate institution or questioning our integrity cross is an important line." see, justice alito wants to be revered as an impartial judge. just call balls and strikes as they are supposed to. but as this new tape and his time on the bench have shown, especially over the last several weeks and months, he is actually more of a player, actively engaged in one side's struggle to win. so is giving us every reason to expect this from him, given all the actions. it also doesn't mean it is something we should or need to accept. this is the former president of the naacp legal defense fund and joins me now. i always want to know what you are thinking. but as i listen to these tapes today, i wanted to know, what is share anable thinking. we talk to a becoming two things. how big of a deal is this? >> i think it's a big deal. i think it's a big deal in the cumulative sense and as you point out in your opening, this is not a colloquy that floats around in the air that is surrounded by plenty of context. we have seen all these statements from justice alito, not only in his decisions but when he went to rome after the dobbs decision. we heard him in very similar ways. what is it that is disturbing about this particular excerpt of the conversation? i think there are two things. one, i think is the way in which he was bantering back and forth with this woman who he did know was taping him in a way that suggested sympathy to her position. she was saying some pretty extreme things. probably the worst of it is when she said that we have to work to move this country back toward godliness. and he said, i agree with you. to me, that is just a very shocking statement. i don't think that is his charge as a supreme court justice to suggest that he believes the country needs to move toward godliness. she spoke often of what it was like in the past and that we need to return to some period in which things were more moral pick and he was agreeing with her. i don't know what period they were referring to. were they referring to a period in which there was much more religious talk in american life but there was also talk about keeping black people out of schools? what was the time period? i think the reason this is important is because the standard is a reasonable person standard. and justice alito refused to recuse himself from a variety of cases. said it is because a reasonable person, knowing all the facts of that is what he said about the flight controversy. but when we probe, we realize we don't know all the facts and the facts he has told us are not necessarily that accurate facts. we learned that from the flag flying issue when justice alito gave us a timeline that is not up. now, the reasonable person would reasonably believe perhaps that this justice was not impartial and that is the standard for recusal. but we will never get there unless parties actually file motions to recuse and that is i am hoping that this will show the united states, which is the party and the trump privilege case and others, that they have to have the courage to demand that these justices come forward in the context of recusal practice and explain themselves. we are not going to get it from sending letters to the justices we are not going to get it from having the justices just recuse themselves because they won't do it. we need to get really serious. and of course we need hearing from the senate judiciary committee so we can get to the bottom of this. it is quite serious. quite disturbing. quite alarming. and it is not a legitimate question the legitimacy of the court we have had this barrage of across the line conduct and misstatements and disclosures that would call into question the impartiality of any court. >> one of the things that was striking to me too is how he blames the erosion of trust in the court. what he blames it on. he blames it on all sorts of things. i was reminded of this today. he said this in 2023. and then talk to you about it on the other side. >> it is easy to blame the media. but i do blame them because they do nothing but criticize us. >> it is pretty rich, given his actions in his own words. it is not the first time he blame somebody else. his wife. everyone attacking him. what is that about? you were talking about accountability. people watching, what should they be doing if they are just outraged about this as well? >> i find this just really mortifying. and embarrassed for the court. we hear it with clarence thomas as well when he talks about the nastiness in washington d.c. and we hear it with alito. it is the media that eroded trust in the supreme court. no, it is the supreme court that eroded trust in the supreme court. in this kind of teenage refusal to take responsibility for their own actions is really incredibly alarming and disturbing and i put that at the feet of chief justice roberts. he is running the court. if i were running in institution and something extraordinary happens and like what happened in the dobbs case, which is something that never happened before in the history of the court, and a decision was leaked out to the public, i wouldn't just be trying to get to the bottom of who leaked it as vigorously as possible. i would want to understand what i created or what we created in our culture that encouraged such a breach of culture and protocol. all of these things should require the court to self reflect. to look at themselves. why do you have a justice on the court like clarence thomas who is not making the appropriate disclosures? we know they are appropriate because he is making them now that he has been found out. this has nothing to do with the media. the media is doing its job. in fact, the media has often been quite kind to the supreme court including around this flag issue which we had not heard about until three years late. it is not the media. these justices have to grow up and stop being stubborn teenagers and take responsibility for their own actions. this is where the leadership of the chief comes in here and when the chief allows a code of conduct, a voluntary code, as he allowed several months ago, a code so much more weak than the code that holds all other federal judges, he is essentially allowing and creating this culture of impunity in which they create rules that accommodate the actions they have already taken. so we have a real problem, ethical problem on the supreme court appeared to be honest with you, i blame us. i blame congress. we have failed. we have counted on the good behavior and the norms of the supreme court instead of putting in place real rules that they have to follow. and congress does have the power to be able to issue a code of ethics for the united states supreme court and they should do so. we cannot blame this just on the justices. we can't blame it on trump. we can't blame it on anything else but our believes that norms were enough. they are not enough as we are learning across the united states government and we have to get serious about what kinds of protections we need in place for the integrity of our nation's highest court. >> a lot of homework, including for chief justice roberts. thank you as always for joining me this evening. really appreciate it. coming up, governor josh shapiro joins me live to talk about donald trump's promises of revenge. >> first, the nominee had a meeting with his probation officer today. we will tell you what he was likely asked about and how it could affect his sentencing. christie greenberg is a former deputy chief of the criminal division in the southern district of new york and joins me in 60 seconds. seconds. let's get the rest of these plants in. organic soil from miracle-gro has grown me the best garden i have ever had. good soil, and you get good results. this soil will blow you away. it's the martha stewart of soil. today, donald trump met with the probation officer had of his sentencing for his 34 felony convictions in new york city. and the biden campaign cochair reminded me yesterday that this is one of those times where we need to pause and reflect on the extraordinary moment we are in. >> can we just stop on that fact. i will talk about the debate and a second. a guy that wants to be president of the united states first test to go sit down with his probation officer. that is just an astounding statement that sometimes people walk by. i don't think most americans are going to walk by that. >> he is completely right. we cannot just breeze by this stuff. trump's probation interview today happened virtually from mar-a-lago which is not typical. these meetings typically happen in person. but he is not a typical person who was just convicted either. but the interview itself is standard procedure for anyone convicted of a felony in new york. and one standard question trump may have been asked is whether he associates with criminals. you know, other convicted felons like steve bannon and oliver stone and his other buddies. we should not forget how extraordinary this moment is. kristi greenberg is the former deputy chief of the criminal division in the southern district of new york and joins me now. thank you so much. you tweeted today. i will start there. that trump would try to convince the probation officer not to recommend a jail sentence. but you said probation should reject the argument. how does that conversation exactly go down during one of these meetings? >> i think what you probably saw -- this was just 30 minutes. a short interview. you probably saw todd blanche taking the lead to try to highlight positive aspects of donald trump's character that they think or mitigating circumstances and things that they think will show he is amenable to supervision. so they will say, look, this criminal conduct which he denies, there is no victim here. but they need to look closer. we are victims. the american people are victims, not getting information that he was paying off a pornography start to make sure she didn't share that could have affected the election outcome. other things i think he will focus on are, i was the former president of the united states. i performed a great public service and you should take that into account. but it is also aggravating in the circumstance because he committed some of this crime like signing the checks to reimburse michael cohen right in the oval office. you could argue that. and he will point to the fact that he is a first-time offender. you know who else is a first- time offender? michael cohen, and he got sentenced to jail for the same conduct. allen weisselberg is essentially the same old -- one year apart. a lot of the factors that i expect todd blanche tried to highlight today in his interview, really it is going to be on the prosecutors to make their case separately to the probation office in presenting the fact that the trial record shows all the gag order violations and to show he is not following the court orders and he certainly won't follow the orders of probation. >> a lot of things to argue. i wanted to ask you, i mentioned one of the standard lines of questioning during one of these probation meetings. whether or not the person convicted of a felony associates with criminals. trump has a number of people who happen to fall into that category. i presume he is going to say no. i don't know what he said but what happens if he does associate with convicted criminals? are there repercussions? >> there are. there -- if he were sentenced to probation, there would be conditions to that probation term. among them is he cannot associate with other convicted felons. and so, steve bannon for example, is somebody that was convicted for criminal contempt charge and it has a trial that will start in a few months before the judge on a separate fraud case. with someone like that, someone who he has not pardoned because he is pardoned a number of his other criminal associates, for someone he is not pardoned, i would think he would not be able to associate. these are people that like we are involved with his campaign and that he would want to associate with. so we figure he will try to do that through intermediaries if he is sentenced to probation. >> quite a time to be alive, kristi greenberg. thank you for explaining this to us. that is always helping us to understand. i appreciate it. donald trump is not going to be able to append democracy on his own. he will need help. and a lot of help is available. we will introduce you to someone who could be his chief of staff and who has chilling plans for a second term. later, governor josh shapiro joins me to talk about all the ways the rule of law will be on the ballot in 2024. we are back after a quick break. so i can feel and see that my lines have gotten deeper just from a year out in the sun. i'm still marie and i got botox® cosmetic. i did not want a dramatic change. i wanted something subtle. and i'm really, really happy with the results. it's still me, but with fewer lines. botox® cosmetic is fda approved to temporarily make frown lines, crow's feet, and forehead lines look better. the effects of botox® cosmetic may spread hours to weeks after injection, causing serious symptoms. alert your doctor right away as difficulty swallowing, speaking, breathing, eye problems, or muscle weakness may be a sign of a life-threatening condition. do not receive botox® cosmetic if you have a skin infection. side effects may include allergic reactions, injection site pain, headache, eyebrow, eyelid drooping, and eyelid swelling. tell your doctor about your medical history, muscle or nerve conditions, and medications, including botulinum toxins as these may increase the risk of serious side effects. see for yourself at botoxcosmetic.com. they say we should stop eating so much meat. as these may increase the risk of serious side effects. so we made meat out of plants. because we aren't quitters. impossible. we're solving the meat problem with more meat. i bought the team! kevin...? 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every d.a. starting investigations right now? >> when donald trump gets elected, should he lock them up? no question. should there be a list of democrats that go to jail? 100%. >> it is a terrible path they are leading us to. and it is very possible that it is going to have to happen to them. >> in that description, as you just heard, it is all about karma. it is an eye for an eye. fighting fire with fire. that is the story they are telling over and over again. and it is one that far too many headliners are running with. as a near public had, "in the media, the story tends to be framed as follows. will trump seek revenge for his legal travails or won't he? ." it implies that he is bound to do to democrats what was done to him. you see, obviously, there is a big difference between what happens to trump and what he is promising to do to democrats or anybody who he is mad at. despite with the former president and his allies claim, trump was legitimately investigated, indicted, tried and convicted unanimously by a jury of his peers. 12 everyday americans. there was a legal basis and evidence for all of it. all presented during a six-week trial. not trying to hold people accountable for actual wrongdoing but reshape the american justice system and make it a political tool to go after democrats or anyone who has done trump wrong. political prosecutions were a major goal for the maga movement long before trump got indicted or convicted. i was reminded of this this week in. the washington post published an incredibly eye popping piece on the influential figure in trump's orbit that you might not be familiar with. for what it is worth, i had never heard of him either. the former director of the office of management and budget. and his name is russ vote. according to the piece, he is a potential chief of staff for a second trump term and could wield a lot of power. a self-proclaimed christian nationalist to crafted parts of the heritage foundation's project 2025 on how to remake the executive branch a trump presidency. then back in september of 2022, before trump got indicted or enter the presidential race, he wrote an essay saying that the left to drive america into a post- constitutional moment. saying it was time for the right to reinterpret the constitution and a radical new way. he encouraged conservatives to throw off precedents and legal paradigms that have wrongly developed over the last 200 years. and their place according to the post, he laid out plans for donald trump to deploy the military for civil unrest and use more control over the justice department and assert the power to hold congressional appropriations. that is just on trump's first day back in office. let's pause on that. is not calling for accountability through due process of the law to hold people accountable. he wants to reshape the system for the purpose of punishing trump's perceived enemies. last year, he told the heritage foundation crowd that the department of justice is not an independent agency. and if anyone brings up in a policy meeting in the white house, i want them out of the meeting. >> here's the larger picture. outside of the week to week news cycle and the latest republican reactions, the republican line of fight fire with fire that you hear over and over again is really just cover. framing a plan to overhaul the justice system and executive branch at large. and by the way, this plan completely predates trump's convictions and indictments and what he had in mind all along. pennsylvania governor josh shapiro is standing by and join say next. we are back after a quick break. join cken, cr ies all wrapped up— these wrapare amaz people can hear my thoughts? 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there is a trial and a jury finds someone innocent or guilty? or do we prefer a country where he president uses the justice department as his personal law firm? are we okay with the current system where every american is accountable to the same set of laws? or do we prefer a country where the president can just prosecute whomever he chooses simply because he does not like them? the election will be about a lot of things no question. but that is definitely one of them. joining me now is pennsylvania governor josh shapiro. he was previously the state's attorney general. i'm grateful you are here with me. i want to start with what i laid out in the earlier block. basically, this idea that donald trump and his allies are bowing what they are telling supporters. simply fighting fire with fire. you are doing something with our guy and we are going to go back to you. but to me, when you look at the specifics of the plan, it feels like it is not exactly the right description. it is not just revenge but a plan in my view to reshape the system and go after their enemies. and last week, you said something that really struck me. you said i'm scared to death if he is in charge with the system. is a strong statement. i want to see what you anticipate or expect. what worries you about what could happen to the system? >> i'm deeply concerned by the system. it is why we should not put the country at risk by putting donald trump back in charge of the justice system or back in charge of the military. donald trump came out of those 34 convictions doing what he always does when he gets in legal trouble. kind of a cut and paste job, if you will. and a room with us well from my time as attorney general. he complains. he bemoans the fact that he lost and he makes up excuses and tries to pipit away from personal responsibility. remember, i was attorney general in pennsylvania where he and his cronies and allies took us to court 43 different times to try to stop certain people from voting and stop the votes from being cast. by the way, he went 0-43. we went 43-0 unprotected the rule of law and the will of the people. and now donald trump wants to come back. as he said, exact revenge. the idea he would be put in charge of the justice system and have people surrounding him that -- that should scare all americans. it is another example of the kind of chaos he would inflict on the country if he was given the opportunity to lead this nation. we have always been a nation that respects the rule of law and respects the institutions. donald trump has tried to undermine our faith in one another and our faith in the institutions. we didn't let him get away with it in 2020 and i hope and pray we won't let him get away with it in 2024. i will be doing everything in my political power here in pennsylvania to ensure he is not successful and the institutions stand and hold. >> let me ask you about something you just alluded to which is the takeover of the justice system. i think people hear that and they think it is the reshuffling of the government and what does it actually mean? i talked about this influential figure apparently and trump residence world. and could end of being his chief of staff of for trump was reelected. who knows? this is a man who openly says he does not believe the department of justice is an independent agency. i just want to ask you, what is the danger of that quick sometimes i think it feels like just bureaucracy in washington but it is much more than that. >> it is a lot more than bureaucracy. dangerous if he controls a bureaucracy as well. think about the justice department. he would have the power to criminally prosecute people who didn't do anything wrong but are just his enemies. go after companies that he disagreed with the products they are selling or the manner in which they are conducting themselves and to use the justice department to strip away people's liberties, rights and freedoms and undermine the constitution. ignore the courts and essentially just have his way with good people of this nation. and it should scare the hell out of everybody. remember in 2016 ever donald trump won and then took office in 2017, he and most people around him did not know what the hell they were doing and there were still a few people around him that provided some guardrails for his chaotic conduct. now those people that might provide the guardrails are gone and a lot of the dangerous people around him know how the bureaucracy works. they know how the justice system works. they know how the military works. and if he is given the opportunity to lead this nation again with those people around him, who want to do danger and take away your fundamental freedoms, that should scare the hell out of everybody and that is not the kind of chaos we want in this country. >> it is such an important point. it is the people that know how to manipulate and it is also the plans being written. a lot of the more online. keeping with the legal discussion here, i want to ask about the supreme court. at the top of the hour, we talked about the supreme court and specifically, justice samuel alito. and this audio come he agreed there should be a fight to return our country to a place of godliness. this comes after the reporting of a flag outside of his house that has been a symbol associated with january 6th and serious ethical scandals around justice thomas and a lot of things. it feels like there is a credibility crisis for the supreme court. i just want to ask you, what is the solution here? >> remember, this is the court that donald trump packed in order to take away woman's right to choose. in order to make my daughter and other women out there have fewer rights today then they were born with. so this is purposeful on donald trump residence part, to pack the court with these people that want to restrict our freedom. people that have their own agendas. and justice alito, samuel alito, is showing his agenda by the way he flies his flags and apparently the way he runs his mouth as well. what the american people need to do is take that into consideration when they go vote this november. do you really want to give donald trump the ability to appoint more samuel alito as opposed to the court or more clarence thomas is to the court. you want to give him the ability to put more people on the court who will take away our fundamental freedoms? remember that justice thomas wrote that abortion is just the beginning. the very fundamental reasoning or foundation or reasoning they used to overturn roe v wade could be applied in other ways. it could be used to restrict your ability to marry who you love or undermine your ability to be able to go out and take the medications that you and your doctor want you to take. i really fear that this was just the beginning. and if donald trump is given the ability to lead this nation again and put more of those kinds of justices on the court, it will not only set us back for four years but it will set us back for 40 years. the stakes are so high in the selection. and while donald trump and joe biden's names are on the ballot, this is a binary choice. and don't let anybody tell you anything else. there a bunch of randoms on the ballot that have no chance of winning. this is a binary choice between donald trump and joe biden. it is not about those two. it is the kind of country want for ourselves. it is whether we value freedom and care about our institutions and whether we believe we have to move forward to brighter days or whether we will go back to a very dark time. this election is a referendum and a reflection on all of us. and we have a responsibility to turn out and to get others to turn out who will stand up against the kind of extremism we have seen on the supreme court and in the white house with donald trump and instead stand up for freedom and for fundamental values as americans and continue to move our country forward. >> before we let you go, i have to ask you about pennsylvania. you know the politics of your state. you know them extremely well. we have seen it. it has not been that long since the convictions. we have seen a little bit of impact in the polls. there are a lot of things that will be on the ballot and on voter mines. as you are talking to voters and knowing your state as you do, you think trump's conviction will be something that helps people to decide who are on the fence at this state? >> i don't know how that conviction will ultimately play out. i know the people of pennsylvania, they care a lot about four basic things. they want good schools. they want safe communities. they want economic opportunities. and they want their freedoms to be protected. i think they want to be led by someone who is honest and decent. someone who actually is on their side like joe biden. all they hear from donald trump is a whole bunch of whining about this country and i think donald trump has to quit whining. quit trying to divide us. we are producing more energy than anyone before the in this nation. we have the strongest economy in the world and we are beating china for the first time in decades. more people went to work this morning in america than any other time in our nation's history. i have a message to donald trump and all of his negativity and whining, stop shit talking america. this is the greatest country on earth and it is time we start acting like it. the good people of pennsylvania understand this is a great country. they understand we have a lot going for us. and we have time to continue this path of progress that joe biden has laid out and not go back to a negative time. and not listen to the whining of the former president and instead, focus on a positive future for all of us. >> quit your whining. it is a good message. thank you so much governor schapiro. i always enjoy talking to you. i appreciate it. we will be right back after a quick b break. ack it himmune fight cancer in 2 different ways. opdivo and yervoy can cause your immune system to harm healthy parts of your body during and after treatment. these problems can be severe and lead to death. see your doctor right away if you have a cough; chest pain; shortness of breath; irregular heartbeat; diarrhea; constipation; severe stomach pain; severe nausea or vomiting; dizziness; fainting; eye problems; extreme tiredness; changes in appetite, thirst or urine; rash; itching; confusion; memory problems; muscle pain or weakness; joint pain; flushing; or fever. these are not all the possible side effects. problems can occur together and more often when opdivo is used with yervoy. tell your doctor about all medical conditions including immune or nervous system problems, if you've had or plan to have an organ or stem cell transplant, or received chest radiation. your search for 2 immunotherapies starts here. ask your doctor about opdivo plus yervoy. a chance to live longer. first, we did the impossible. then, you ate so many of the impossible that we completely ran out. and now... ♪♪ they're backk! the footlong cookie is back at subway! organic soil from miracle-gro has grown me the best garden i have ever had. good soil, and you get good results. look at that! the broccoli was fantastic. that broccoli! i think some of them were six, seven pounds. new centrum menopause supplements help unpause life when symptoms pause it. with a multivitamin plus hot flash support. 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or the whale will they just vote for biden instead? or do we know that by your conversations? >> in this particular group, five out of nine of them, trump voters, five of them were going to vote for biden. i think there are a lot of people that think, somebody that voted for donald trump twice, it seems like a long shot to get them to vote for biden. but i think it is important to understand that for a section of voters who kind of held their nose and voted for donald trump twice and then saw what happened on january 6th, saw donald trump's claims and lies about the election, they were already pretty -- that was sort of a red line for them. they were pretty far out. what the conviction does is it moves them from -- and i hear this a lot from a two time trump voters who were upset. saying, i'm not going to leave it blank. it got them to a place where they said, this guy is totally unfit to be in the white house. i will vote for biden, not because i want to vote for biden and not because i want to vote for a democrat but because i will vote for anybody that will keep donald trump out of the white house because he is that dangerous. you are always in the selection, especially with the swing voters or the right. for them, you are not building it pro joe biden coalition but an anti-trump coalition. and as donald trump gets back into people's consciousness which is a lot of what is happening with the conviction, people are remembering, yeah, i don't like that guy. you are seeing a shift in voters were before, they were focused on negative things they thought about biden and now they are remembering the negative things they don't like about trump. >> it is so interesting to watch the focus groups and listen to you talk about them. you know well and i know well that they are big moments in campaigns. we have also seen the campaign sharpening rhetoric around the convictions. and there is a difference between what the campaign says and what michael tyler is saying and what the candidates say. when you look at the debate coming up, is a couple weeks from now, what should the president be saying? he is trying to appeal to the voters and to base voters. what is the right framing of language? >> the conviction is the elephant in the room. you have to talk about it. and you also don't get in a situation where you would just call him a convicted felon as many times as possible and try to win on points. the conviction is the critical data point in the story that a lot of the polling and focus group say we should be telling about trump which is that he is in this for himself. is running for office to protect himself from further legal jeopardy to help himself and his rich friends and to bring revenge to his enemies. it was that exact attitude, that me first attitude, that got him in this trouble to begin with. you have to take the conviction. this moment that actually caused people to brave out of their anti- politics bubble for a few minutes and pay attention to this race and then use that to tell the more broad story. you can do that in a debate over and over again and do it in a disciplined, calm falls way that is not allowed trump to drag you down into the mud. >> that makes a huge amount of sense to me. i wanted to ask you a similar version of the story. there are a couple of audiences biden has to appeal to. of these people you talk to and focus groups, is there anything president biden could say about the convictions that would turn them off? is there anything that is a trigger for them about it? >> when it comes to the swing voters, it is not just what he says but how he says it. for them, they want to see that joe biden can do this job. you have to get people over this hump that they think joe biden is too old. because this is where trump kind of wins often times. he has big lunatic energy that make him seem just more vivacious or more aggressive. and sometimes when he listened to voters, they get into kind of a strong framing where they are like, trump is bad but strong and biden is okay but weak. biden has to show strength. i agree with dan. you can't just say conviction over and over again. but he does have to go on offense. in fact, the whole campaign right now has to go on offense. we are in the moment to push. we have to stop talking about democracy being at stake and the campaign has to campaign like democracy is at stake. joe biden has to show that he is ready to go. i think it is not just the name- calling of convicted felons but being able to say, this man is unfit and i'm good to go. and you have to show that and not just tell it. >> state of the union energy. it is about the vibes i'm hearing. i wanted to ask you about you encouraging people not to be stressed. everyone should find it and subscribe to it. we will talk about it next time. thank you both for joining me. we will be right back after a quick break. don't go anywhere! dangerous ladders. gutter muck. yuck. no wonder you hate cleaning your gutters. good thing there's leaffilter. our patented filter technology keeps leaves and debris out of your gutters forever. guaranteed. call 833- leaffilter to get started. and get the permanent gutter solution that ends clogs for good. they took the time to answer all of our questions. they really put us at ease. end clogged gutters for good. call 833.leaf.filter, or visit leaffilter.com today. ♪♪ with fastsigns, create striking custom visuals that inspire pride district-wide. ♪♪ fastsigns. make your statement. if you have chronic kidney disease you can reduce the risk of kidney failure with farxiga. because there are places you'd like to be. farxiga can cause serious side effects, including ketoacidosis that may be fatal, dehydration, urinary tract, or genital yeast infections, and low blood sugar. a rare, life-threatening bacterial infection in the skin of the perineum could occur. stop taking farxiga and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of this infection, an allergic reaction, or ketoacidosis. ♪ far-xi-ga ♪ when we say it'll be on time, they expect it to be on time. turn shipping to your advantage. keep those expectations with reliable ground shipping. thanks brandon. with usps ground advantage®. ♪♪ the rachel maddow show starts right now. hi, rachel. >> hi, yen. thanks very much. much appreciated. thanks to you at home. really happy to have you here. we have an interesting show for you tonight. particularly glad you're here for it. we're going to start a ways

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the collaborationists and the nazis together were ruling france and they had been for years. there was a french resistance to the nazi rule and the collaborationists, but the nazis and their puppets were definitely in charge. i they were actually heading intoc year five of being in charge. they were really settled in, inf france. and then here comes this shock arrival. this invasion. hundreds of thousands, ultimately millions of allied troops landing on the beaches and the cliffs of the northwest of france. and they are clearly planning to take it all back. the d-day invasion, the allied n invasion, started on june 6th. now, on this date, on june 10th, 1944, just four days into the d-day invasion, the germans were reacting. they had been, of course, shocked by the initial invasion. but a few days into it, they now realized the scale of what they were up against and had started scrambling their units from all over france, turning all the available german troops in france toward the northwest of that country to try to stop the allied advance. and that included a nazi ss panzer division that had been in the south of franz. that division was ordered to essentially traverse the whole length of the country, head north to where the allies were advancing from the beaches of hr normandy. and on their way north through france, toward the new allied front lines, the new western front, this panzer division stopped in a village called oradour. pro-nazi french collaborators had told them, they told this panzer unit that the french resistance was active in this town. and they told them that the french resistance in that town had killed a nazi officer. and in response, that panzer unit decided, yes, they were on their way to the north of france to join the new western front and the, you know, the battle for the whole war, to try to shore up the german lines against the big allied invasion, but they decided on their way e there, they would stop and do something in oradour.g they would destroy that entire village and everyone in it. that panzer unit rounded up every single man, woman, and child in that village. they even rounded up random people who didn't live in the village but were nearby or who had the misfortune to be passing through the village when this nazi unit made this decision.t that nazi unit killed every human being in oradour. or everyone they could find. they killed 643 civilians. a vast majority of them women and children.or they used machine guns and they burned them alive. they looted the entire village, and then they tore down the village as best they could. they razed it. oradour.ed this is what it looks like today. still in ruins. the french decided after the war that they would never rebuild. they would leave the ruins, preserve them as they were left at the end of the war, as a memorial to what the nazis did. and we have these photos of what oradour looks like literally today, because this morning, the president of france and the president of germany visited the ruins at oradour to commemorate what they call the martyrdom of that village, to remember what happened in europe, in france, under fascist occupation. now, this is not the first time that french president emmanuel macron has visited oradour. actually, ten days before he was first elected president, he went there. he visited the village just before he was elected president. he visited in the company of the man who was then the last livini survivor of that massacre.s i said the nazis killed everyone in the village, at least everyone they could find.ge the nazis did kill over 600 civilians that day, but there were about half a dozen people from the village who, against all odds, in a miracle managed by hook or by crook to survive. the last one of the survivors was in his 90s when he brought emmanuel macron to oradour in 2017. that last survivor has since died. but today, macron went back to the site, to show this place, to germany's president. now, in 1944, about six months after oradour happened, the germans were still hanging on. but thanks in large part to the d-day invasion, they knew by the end of 1944 that they were losing. they were losing to soviet forces in the east, for sure. they were also simultaneously losing to the allied forces coming in from the west. once the allies opened that new western front with the d-day invasion, they started pressing their advantage against the nazis everywhere. not only liberating france, they clearly intend to liberate everywhere the nazis have taken over. they're pressing toward germany itself. hitler knows that his military is on the ropes. it cannot sustain the losses they're taking on both the eastern and western fronts. and so about six months after d-day, about six months after oradour, hitler decides he's going to mount a surprise of his own. he decides he's going to mount a huge german counteroffensive in belgium against the allies. the allies are basically closing in on germany's own borders and when hitler musters hundreds of thousands of men to mount a counteroffensive against them in the forests of belgium, it absolutely is a surprise to the allies. nobody thought germany still had it in them. everybody thought -- not everybody, but a lot of people thought the war was going to be over by christmas that year. where did the germans muster 400,000, 500,000 men to mount this new counteroffensive, but they did. that german counteroffensive started in mid-december 1944. it began a six-week-long battles that would be the single deadliest battle of the entire war for the u.s. military. aside from just the brutal toll of that battle, that was the battle of the bulge, that battle also came with its own astonishing and unforgettable atrocity. it was another german panzer unit much like the one that killed the entire population of that french village. it was an ss panzer unit in belgium. and they ended up in the very outset of that surprise german counteroffensive, they ended up ambushing a bunch of americans. and the result of it was they took custody of a large group of american prisoners of war, unarmed american p.o.w.s. and these p.o.w.s, again, they had surrendered. they had no weapons. the nazis lined up those americans in a field, the americans have no weapons. they have surrendered.ve they have their hands above their heads. they're p.o.w.s, but the nazis just massacred them in the field, they mowed them down with machine gun fire. and like at that village of oradour, what is almost as unbelievable as what the nazis did there was the fact there were somehow miraculously some survivors. there were some american gis who had also been lined up in that field, who nevertheless lived. american gis who played dead, who hid under the dead bodies of their comrades, who managed in the end to drag themselves into the woods to get away. and what happened to them? you will not believe me when i tell you this, but it would not be long before a sitting united states senator would vehemently object to those men giving testimony about what they saw. about what they survived, about what happened to their platoon mates, to the other men in that battalion. the other p.o.w.s who were massacred by those nazis.p. a sitting u.s. senator tried to block the american soldiers who. survived that massacre from t giving testimony about it in congress. he said the american people shouldn't hear it.e he said it would be he inflammatory. w it would inflame the public to against the nazis who killed alf of those unarmed american p.o.w.s.na i find it absolutely insane to think about, but this became a very strange thing in american domestic politics. i mean, there were unrepentant r leftover nazis in germany after the war. they were trying to make the allies and america in particular the real bad guys from world war ii, and maybe that is understandable when you think about unrepentant nazis who just lost the war, but you would not believe it, the zi thing that's amazing is not that there were leftover nazis who were trying to do this. the thing you wouldn't believe is they enlisted a lot of americans to help them in that project. including taking a stand against the american soldiers who survived that p.o.w. massacre ha and demanding that the nazis who did it should be set free. this became a cause celebre in the right wing press at the e time. and it helped launch the national career, the rocketship ascendance of arguably the most radical and controversial figure in republican electoral politics in the last 80 years before donald trump. while he was swimming in these very dark waters, darker than what seems possible for something in mainstream american politics he would go on to lead a movement of millions of followers who were increasingly radicalized by his increasingly radical rhetoric and tactics over time. his fellow republicans were both repelled by him, horrified by him, while they also wanted in on some of the massive political energy and fanatical devotion he attracted. they thought very seriously about putting him forward for the presidency, and the reaction among close observers of him and his tactics look so much like what you're seeing in the american press today about the e fear of a second trump term, you wouldn't believe that it isn't just a straight up rerun. in his time, the people who stood up against him mostly got mowed down in politics by the strength of his fanatical following. that happened for a very long time. until eventually, ultimately, it stopped happening.en and the forces against him prevailed. and i'm telling you this for two reasons.ll number one, this is the thing that i have been working on for the past year. my podcast, rachel maddow presents ultra, now has a season two, and it is out today. episode one is out today.t you can get it anywhere you get podcasts. if you don't usually listen to podcasts, if you take out your phone right now, open the camera on your phone, and point it at that weird looking little on l circular square thing on your screen, you click on the little box that pops up on your phone, it will bring you right there so you can listen to it. you can listen to it for free. it's free to listen to. there are eight episodes of thio all together.ei episode one is out today. i hope you may want to listen.e i have been working really hard on it.n i'm really proud of it, but i hope you like it. i hope you'll check it out. that's one of the easons i'm telling you this story. i have been working on this story, i have been working in general on stories about other v times in our american history that we have dealt with really terrible threats to the country. where we have confronted reallyr radical people with really radical designs to undo the fundamental things that make us who we are as a country who nevertheless get into political power and attract large followings. this has happened to us before.p and the reason i have been working on this for the past couple years, the reason i have been working on these projects is because for me, i feel like i really need to learn this stuff and fast, for me, there is a real urgency to learn these stories now.no from when we have contended with terrible challenges before, ha particularly when we're talking about powerful americans advocating for authoritarianism or just flat out embodying it. particularly when it's about selling factually unhinged conspiratorial lies to the american public and half the public is mortified, mystified by that, but the other half of the public is super energized by it and they not only believe these lies, they kind of become their whole new reason to live. the public gets bifurcated like that into earth one and earth two where some people are based in the reality based community and some people are based in a different place, and that place is emotionally satisfying to them, and radicalizing them, and it takes over their lives. we are living through a moment like that right now with what is ascendant on the american righth but we have lived through it before. and i feel like i'm racing to learn these stories about americans who have fought these kinds of fights before us for the simple reason that i feel like i need their ideas about how to fight it. we need their ideas about how to fight these things. we need to see what worked and what didn't when americans faced threats like this before. and it doesn't mean that fighting them always works. sometimes they get away with a lot of this stuff, and sometimes people take on incredible risk and danger to themselves. sometimes people risk their lives or give up their lives to fight these things, but knowing the track record of americans who have stood up against these kinds of dark and authoritarian and anti-democratic forces knowing who else has tried it and what's happened to them is helpful for us calibrating our available responses now. and knowing what to expect when we confront these dark movements. so that is why i have been working on this, and that is why that story is on my mind tonight. but it is also what's on the news right now. i mean, one of the remarkable things about seeing the french president with the german president at the ruins of oradour today in france is that they took that tour of the ruins of that village today, that th preserved memorial to what fascism did in europe, they took that tour this morning. just one day after the german far right and the french far right won shockingly large an proportions of the vote in the h european elections that were held yesterday. in both of those countries, the parties that did so well have ties not only to the old fascist parties of old world war ii era germany and france, they both have current ties, including financial ties, to vladimir putin and russia. when president biden and president macron of france met in france these past few days ma for the commemoration of the 80th anniversary of d-day, president biden said that he and president macron agreed on a new plan to seize russian assets inz the g-7 countries and use those seized russian assets to providn even more support to ukraine. as ukraine continues to struggle against the russian invasion of that country. president biden is just back from france for these d-day commemoration ceremonies and from those meetings with e president macron. he's just back but heads back to europe the day after tomorrow to go to the g-sev summit, among other things to rally the other nations to support this new plan, to support ukraine as muc as possible including this new plan that he and macron have just agreed to involving seizing russian assets to help ukraine even more. and, you know, in the american aperture here, what's going on in our politics while president biden is trying to, you know, rally the free world, trying to strengthen our alliances as much as possible to lead collective international will against a rogue dictatorship that has invaded one big european country already and has its sights set on more, here at home, literally while president biden and other american leaders were headed off to europe for the 80th anniversary of d-day, while they were heading off to europe for that, what was happening in the american congress? a fifth of the republicans in congress just voted that we should leave our allies altogether. that we should break up the big western alliance, that we should defund nato. and i think nobody really paid attention to this vote because this legislation was put forward by a very fringe member of congress, a member of congress who is known for her publicity stunts and she's therefore -- she is easy to ignore. but it wasn't just her.y 46 republicans voted for this thing.ca a fifth of the republicans in congress last week voted to defund nato. don't just forget being the leader of the free world, forget the whole idea of there being a free world at all. they saved that for the anniversary of d-day. 46 republicans voting to defund nato. and as radical as that may seem, particularly when you think about where nato came from and why, the wing of the republican party that is pushing for this stuff, i mean, on its face, it seems unlikely they would have such sway. every few days we get a new mugshot of one of their leading lights because so many of them have been charged with crimes. today, it was their presidential candidate's personal lawyer, wh has had his law license suspended, who is under indictment, rudy giuliani's w mugshot just released today after he was arraigned in arizona. you can put it up on the wall with all of the other maga republican mugshots we have accrued over the past year. their presidential candidate is a convicted felon. today he had to meet with the probation office in new york ahead of his sentences. people at his rallies not only wear tshirts and fly flags that have his mugshot on them, they started carrying signs and wearing shirts that now say rr they're proudly voting for the convicted felon. at a rally this weekend, their presidential candidate described members of the mob of his t supporters who physically w attacked congress and injured dozens of police officers, he described them in a speech this weekend as, quote, warriors. his warriors. people who took part in that mob attack on congress. his warriors. while a few days ago, two police officers who were both badly injured fighting hand to hand with that mob to defend congress, to defend the u.s. capitol, those two police officers were jeered and booed by republicans in the pennsylvania state legislature. they jeered them, turned their backs on them and walked out. these are two officers who survived that attack, they were literally injured fighting for their country, defending our seat of government against a violent attack. but the republicans who jeered at them and turned their backs on them and walked out, they want the attackers freed. and they don't want to hear what these survivors of the attack had to say. don't want to hear from the survivors and the witnesses. you want the attackers set free. we are going through some weird stuff right now. but we have gone through weird stuff before. and i do think that we can learn from it and that we urgently need to. that's why i have been working on all these projects. that's why i've got this new se podcast out and i hope you listen. but it's not just the distant past. in the very recent past when we got donald trump in the white house in the first place, you might remember what preceded that shock election result here in the united states in 2016. our shock presidential election result in 2016 was preceded that year by some shocking and surprisingly right wing election results in europe. including the brexit vote in e britain which happened just months before trump's surprise presidential victory here. i asked ben rhodes to please join us here tonight in the wake of what is now, again, another round of what seemed to be surprisingly right wing election results in europe this weekend.y was it right in 2016 to see right wing election results in europe as a harbinger of what was coming for us in the fall o 2016? as president biden balances his campaign responsibilities right now with back-to-back trips to europe, he just got back from europe, he heads back to europe again on wednesday. do the election results from europe right now, this weekend, have hallmarks that tell us anything about what to expect here and about how weird this is all going to get?ut president biden clearly sees ouo connections to europe right now as absolutely key to the futureo of the world. does what's going on in european politics right now tell us something to expect about the future of our world here? joining us now is ben rhodes. he's former deputy national security adviser to president obama, cohost of the pod save the world podcast. really great to see you. thanks for making time to be here tonight. >> good to see you. >> first, let me ask you for some of our viewers who may not have paid close attention to what was happening in the european elections this weekend, let me ask you two questions about them. do you think they're important for us to pay attention to? and can you just give us a rough characterization of what happened in those elections?za >> sure. these were elections for the european parliament. e so the european union wide parliament, so the only electiop that takes place every few years in which all of europe votes. it's a good barometer of where opinion is in europe. the two headlines are the far right made noticeable gains in the two largest countries in europe, france and germany.rg in france, the national front party, the far right party that used to be on the fringes of french politics, emerged as by far the largest vote getter in g this election and to build on what you're saying, this is a party that is not only far right, they have ties to russia. they have gotten a $10 million loan from russia in the past decade. in germany, the afd party, which has ties that go back into the kind of neonazi past of germany, they got over 15% of the vote, not a huge total, but very alarming given the source here. i want to be clear, in other parts of europe, the center did hold.ur i think the real concerning factor is in the two most important countries, france and germany, we saw these far right gains. >> do you think that it's right to look back at 2016 and see some of what was going on in politics in europe as a harbinger for the shock election result we got in the fall of r 2016 when trump won? do you think these election results should be read as a harbinger of what's coming down the pike for us this year? >> i absolutely do, rachel. the commonality between the brexit vote, the vote by the uk to leave the european union in 2016 and the trump election was that it was a -- it was a surprise.a people did not think brexit was going to win the campaign and they campaigned on a kind of right wing populist message. the slogan was take back control. they ran against globalists and liberal elites and against immigration and was very trumpy in its message, frankly. it kind of foreshadowed what we ended up dealing with in the fall here. i think the warning in this election, and you ask mead a wa question when i came on to talk about my book a few years ago about far right parties and their commonalities around the world, you asked what lesson should we learn. i always think about that. the lesson i take from this one is that their incumbent parties in germany and france that have defended essentially the status quo, emmanuel macron has been a defender of the european union. olaf scholz has been a defender of the liberal order. people are not listening to that message right now. you cannot defeat these parties, these populist insurgents be being the defenders of the status quo, but you have to tapt into people's dissatisfaction e' with globalization, dissatisfaction with inequality. sense that things are slipping out of control. it's not enough to say we're the responsible adults here. you have to kind of get down and have a different message for how things are going to change. g i think that's the warning sign that joe biden should hear, nots enough to run on status quo here. not enough to defend even the things we think are very t important. you have to meet people where they are, and people are frustrated.d >> ben rhodes, former deputy national security adviser to president obama.t ben, thank you for making the time. i feel like when we need to like widen the lens a lot and look at america in the world, you're le almost always one of the first people i think of.s thank you for being here. >> thanks, rachel. i can't wait to check out the r we have much more ahead here tonight.e do stay with us. her uncle's unhappy. i'm sensing an underlying issue. it's t-mobile. it started when we tried to get him under a new plan. but they they unexpectedly unraveled their “price lock” guarantee. which has made him, a bit... unruly. you called yourself the “un-carrier”. you sing about “price lock” on those commercials. “the price lock, the price lock...” so, if you could change the price, change the name! it's not a lock, i know a lock. so how can we undo the damage? we could all unsubscribe and switch to xfinity. their connection is unreal. and we could all un-experience this whole session. okay, that's uncalled for. so let's get down to the nitty-gritty here. georgia became this kind of bench mark for principled republicans refusing to go along with improper, un-american machinations from president trump. governor brian kemp, brad raffensperger, two very conservative republicans, both nevertheless stood up to personal pressure from trump to overturn president biden's win in georgia. and of course, all that pressure trump brought to bear on georgia republicans and the ways in which those republicans resisted, that formed the basis for fulton county district attorney fani willis filing a huge rico case against trump and 18 of his codefendants in georgia. that's one story of the state of georgia after the 2020 election. republicans standing up, the record of them standing up and what they had to stand up against forming the basis for this sprawling, damning criminal indictment. the other story of georgia since that election is all the work that pro-trump republicans have done to make sure nothing like that ever happens again. to make sure nobody can ever again get in the way of trump seizing georgia's 16 electoral votes, no matter what the votes say. the most obvious thing georgia republicans have done is use every tool at their disposal to derail fani willis' prosecution of trump. in the latest development in that three republican appointed judges have just put the whole case on hold while they take their time considering whether fani willis should be disqualified from the case. thus guaranteeing that the georgia prosecution will definitely not go forward against trump before the election. but that's only the start. in georgia's most populous county, fulton county, one republican elections board member last month refused to certify the primary results there. because you know, elections are scary. with the help of lawyers from a pro-trump think tank, she has now filed a lawsuit seeking the power to block the certification of elections which would of course throw november's results in georgia into chaos. which is presumably the point. meanwhile, just north of fulton county, republicans recently started agitating to take over an elections board in cherokee county. now, the board there, like other counties in georgia, has always been evenly split between democrats and republicans, but republicans in cherokee county are no longer okay with that. they wanted a full scale republican takeover, when that was blocked, they comp with an ingenious new plan. they decided they would replace one of the democratic commissioners who had been nominated with their own choice. their own choice for a democrat. a new guy that none of the local democrats have ever heard of. but don't worry, the republicans who run cherokee county swear this guy they picked is definitely a democrat. the atlanta journal constitution reported that the republican cherokee county commission chairman, quote, assured the board that the new member is a democrat, even if the local democratic party is unfamiliar with him. i assure you, he's definitely on your team. i know you have never met and i picked him, but trust me. pinky promise. meanwhile, at the state elections board in georgia, republicans there just started writing a new rule that would allow county elections boards to conduct a, quote, reasonable inquiry before they certify any election results. so instead of signing off on election results as county election boards are now required to do by law, they would be empowered instead to investigate those results as they see fit. the journal constitution notes that, quote, the proposed rule doesn't say what a reasonable inquiry would entail before certifying an election. yeah, why would you specify that? you want every election denying republican county elections board member in georgia just making it up as they go along, calling their own behavior reasonable. while the presidential election potentially hangs in the balance. speaking of that state elections board, one of its republican members was ousted last month, one of its republican members was ousted, after trump reportedly spent months calling georgia republicans insisting that that election board member had to go. because that person was not backing trump's lies about the 2020 election. and so of course, the guy had to go. trump's personal involvement in remaking the georgia state elections board is just one of the revelations in new reporting from rolling stone. their new piece is headlined georgia is our laboratory. inside trump's plan to rig 2024. it details how trump's allies are working to make sure there will not be a straightforward election result in georgia this year, given georgia's swing state status that absolutely could be a deciding factor in how the election is going to go down. what is happening there? what is happening to try to stop what is happening there? one of the reporters on that rolling stone piece joins us next. stay with us. stay with us are you still struggling with your bra? it's time for you to try knix. makers of the world's comfiest wireless bras. for revolutionary support without underwires, and sizes up to a g-cup, find your new favorite bra today at knix.com the ultimate authority is the voter. the secretary of state was re-elected by the voters of the state by a larger margin than any other -- excuse me. >> order. order. >> by a larger margin than any other state-wide office. the voters -- >> order. >> -- have demonstrated their faith and therefore i do not believe that at present, we have the authority to oversee or investigate the secretary of state. >> georgia's board of elections gathered to discuss launching an investigation into georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger who had the temerity to say no when donald trump demanded he flip the results of the 2020 election in georgia. the lone democrat on that elections board spoke out against doing this unprecedented investigation of raffensperger. as you heard, she was loudly shouted down. in a new article titled georgia is our laboratory, inside trump's plan to rig 2024, rolling stone reports this. quote, the former president and his supporters have been making concrete step by step progress in shaping electoral processes to his benefit. across the state, maga die hards are devoting considerable resources to purging voting rolls, intimidating election officials, employing legal dirty tricks, and ousting appointees who haven't been initiated into the cult of trump. it's the state where the republican party has total control over the levers of power. over the last four years trump loving elements of the georgia republican party have wielded that advantage in a crusade to turn election conspiracy theories into policies. it's an alarmingly anti-democratic experiment that trump planned and much of the republican party hope to take national. joining us now is adam ronsly, the reporter co bylined on that sprawling piece. thank you for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> so what are some of the steps that trump and his allies have taken to change the electoral process in georgia? >> so one of the most alarming ones that a source who has discussed this issue with trump told us, a republican attorney, is they're planning to challenge the election result regardless of the result. you know, we think of the threat to elections from trump's behavior in 2020 as only occurring in the event that trump loses. you know, at the current state of polling, trump is ahead in georgia, if you believe the polling, but what republican attorney who discussed this with trump told us is that, quote, you can't let the left get away with this cheating just because it didn't succeed, air quotes around cheating. and the plan is to challenge the result regardless of the outcome. and the intent behind that is essentially a permanent delegitimization of the election process. it's heads, i win, tails you lose. and i think you had mentioned this a little bit in your intro, is that one of the things people should be paying close attention to is that refusal to certify in the fulton county board of elections -- in the presidential primary. because one of the things that's very, very notable about that is that the attorneys who filed that lawsuit work for america first policies institute, which is a very trumpy organization filled with former trump folks. and what you see in those kinds of processes is the legal january 6th in miniature. essentially you're taking someone who is, you know, acting beyond their brief and trying to essentially insert themselves into the counting and, you know, assessment of vote tallies. >> adam, is this actually a fight in georgia? you note, i think, importantly, that georgia's a place where republicans control all of the levers of power. we just played the sound of one democratic member of the state elections board getting shouted down when she objected to what they were trying to do in terms of targeting raffensperger. is this fight joint where there is pushback against what they're doing or are they essentially running the table by changing processes to their own benefit? >> you know, they definitely have quite a built-in advantage. and i think that's why georgia relative to other battleground states is particularly interesting because it is more so than perhaps any other state a fight for the soul of the republican party. particularly when it comes to their faith in free and fair elections. and yeah, even folks like brian kemp, who was an absolute obstacle to trump's attempt to, you know, illegally overturn the election in georgia, brian kemp signed sb-202, a law that allows for a range of, you know, sort of procedural chicanery. joe biden called it jim crow in the 21st century. you know, even folks who have proven themselves to be obstacles to some of the more overt aspects of it sometimes will just go along to get along. and so they definitely do have an advantage. and they are running the table in certain ways, but you do see folks like you mentioned earlier, like ed lindsay, whose resignation letter we obtained in the story. people like that, you still do have these kind of principled republicans who are willing to stand up for what they believe in, but as you saw with the case of ed, you know, he had to resign under a great deal of pressure from not just president trump but from the grassroots of the party who believe in a lot of election conspiracies. >> yeah, the bare fact that a presidential candidate is personally lobbying to remove individual state elections board members ought to be on the front page of every paper of the country. been reported by adam, reporter at rolling stone. adam, the by-line reporters on the piece, georgia is our laboratory, thank you for helping us understand this. thanks for doing this work. would love to have you back. >> thanks so much for having me, rachel. >> i appreciate it. we'll be right back. stay with us. stay with us i'm gina. i want to talk to you about golo and how it has changed my life and how it can change yours too. like many of you i've been dieting and failing half my life. and each time i would diet i would quit and my weight and health would get much worse. i had to do something. i saw a golo commercial, i talked to my doctors, and i ordered. like me, the golo success stories are real. give golo a shot. you won't be sorry. could have been the heat, i suppose. temperatures were over 100 degrees at his outdoor campaign rally in las vegas yesterday. so hot, six people had to go to the hospital, and another two dozen had to get medical treatment on site. could have been the heat, i suppose. could also maybe have been that he was nervous about the fact that he was less than 24 hours away from his first meeting with his new york state probation officer. that meeting could be particularly nerve-racking for him because, you know, one of the things a probation officer asks you after you're convicted of felonies is if you have been associating with anyone who has a criminal record. that's worth noting because if he is ultimately sentenced to probation next month while he's on probation, he would not be allowed to associate with anyone with a criminal record. for a lot of people, that wouldn't be a big deal. for him, that's a big deal. that particular restriction eats away at his very close social circle. so maybe that was all distracting him. i don't know. he maybe had a lot -- i don't know. whatever the reason, he decided to venture into new territory in his campaign speech yesterday, less than five months out from the election. this is an important swing state. he decided with the land locked citizens of las vegas needed to hear about from him in order to be persuaded to vote for him was his fear of boats. heavy boats, boats with batteries near sharks. you know, nevada sharks. i know you have heard it happened. you may have seen a headline or scrolled past it on a social media feed. have you actually watched it? uncut, straight through, watched it unfold? it is very much worth watching. it's astonishing. my favorite part is the people you can see at the rally behind him who are really trying to follow along but who clearly have no earthly idea what uncle ramble standers is on about. just watch this. >> what would happen if the boat sank from its weight? and you're in the boat, and you have this tremendously powerful battery, and the battery is now underwater, and there's a shark that's approximately ten yards over there? by the way, a lot of shark attacks lately. did you notice that? i watched some guys justifying it today. well, they weren't really that angry. they bit off the young lady's leg because of the fact that they were -- they were not hungry but they misunderstood who she was. these people are crazy. he said there's no problem with sharks. they just didn't really understand a young woman swimming. really got decimated and a lot of other people. i said so there's a shark ten yards away from the boat. ten yards. or here. do i get electrocuted if the boat is sinking, water goes over the battery, the boat is sinking. do i stay on top of the boat and get electrocuted or do i jump over by the shark and not get electrocuted because he didn't know the answer. he said, nobody has ever asked me that question. i said i think it's a good question. i think there's a lot of electric current coming through the water, but what i would do if there was a shark or you get electrocuted, i would take electrocution every single time. i'm not getting near the shark. so we're going to end that. we're going to end it for boats. >> we're going to end that, we're going to end it for boats. we're going to end it for boats. vote accordingly. vote accordingly a slow network is no network for business. that's why more choose comcast business. and now, we're introducing ultimate speed for business —our fastest plans yet. we're up to 12 times faster than verizon, at&t, and t-mobile. and existing customers could even get up to triple the speeds... at no additional cost. it's ultimate speed for ultimate business. don't miss out on our fastest speed plans yet! switch to comcast business and get started for $49.99 a month. plus, ask how to get up to an $800 prepaid card. call today! all right, that's going to do it for us tonight. i told you tonight was going to be a show and a half. 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we have a special report on a yazidi family suing an islamic state leader's widow for abuse and sex trafficking. welcome to bbc news, broadcasting to viewers in the uk and around the world. we begin in new york, where the united nations security council has voted in favour of an american resolution calling for an immediate ceasefire by israel and hamas in gaza. 1a countries voted in favour, with russia abstaining. speaking after the vote, the us ambassador to the un, linda thomas—greenfield, said the fighting could end now if hamas accepted the three—phase plan. our north america correspondent nada tawfik is monitoring events for us, and sent us this update. the united states, i think, it's no surprise that this resolution, the vote, coincided with antony blinken�*s trip to the region. and what we heard from the united states was that this was the best possible way to secure a durable end to the war, saying that it really is a deal that was israel's initiative, it outlined three phases that they said would eventually, you know, lead to the complete withdrawal of israeli forces, the release of all hostages, in exchange for palestinian prisoners, major reconstruction of gaza, eventually. but i think from different members, you heard different members, you heard different positions. you know, while the united states says this resolution passing means that the international community is united and that this will help put pressure on hamas to accept the deal, you know, algeria said they still had some reservations about the text, but supported it, because they felt it wanted to give diplomacy a chance, wanted to give a glimmer of hope to palestinians. but from russia and china — a lot more scepticism. you know, russia said it didn't want to block this resolution because the arab group of nations supported it, but it questioned whether israel had really accepted the deal as the resolution states, and they pointed to a number of statements by israeli officials, including prime minister binyamin netanyahu, that they will continue the war until hamas is defeated. china as well questioned if, you know, parties will actually implement these three phases of presidentjoe biden�*s proposed deal, and china noting that the other security council resolutions that have been passed weren't implemented, including a permanent ceasefire, including getting more aid in at scale into gaza, questioning, you know, whether this will have a tangible impact on the ground. so i think it remains to be seen if this resolution will, in fact, be different than the other ones. the un vote took place hours after washington's top diplomat, antony blinken, held talks with the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, injerusalem. the us secretary of state emphasising the importance of a post—conflict plan for gaza. earlier on monday, mr blinken met the egyptian president in cairo. abdel fattah al—sisi said he'd agreed to step up attempts to reach a ceasefire and the release of hostages. speaking to reporters, mr blinken said that egypt has been speaking with hamas in the previous hours. the only party that has not accepted, the only party that's not said yes, is hamas. that's who everyone is depending on —— waiting on. that's who the palestinians in gaza are waiting on. it's who the israelis are waiting on. it's who the hostages and the hostage families are waiting on. does hamas want to end this conflict? end this war that it started? or not? we'll find out. but it's clear that virtually the entire world has come together in support of the proposal, and the only open question is will hamas say yes? our state department correspondent tom bateman has been travelling with the secretary and has more from jerusalem. publicly, we're seeing the americans come here and try to press arab leaders to put pressure on hamas to accept this. but hamas is going to want — and basically wants, you know, a far clearer guarantee that this would mean the end of the war and a full israeli withdrawal from gaza. the war and a full israeli withdrawalfrom gaza. clearly, they don't feel like they've got that yet, because we're not seeing a formal response from them, or the resumption of these negotiations. but there is something else going on beneath the surface and this isn't part of the public presentation, but what mr blinken is trying to do is bind the israelis into this and the israeli leadership, because although mr netanyahu has said that his war cabinet has authorised the deal, we haven't heard unequivocal support from him and crucially, in his wider cabinet, that fractious cabinet, that fractious cabinet, including far—right ministers, some of those have outright rejected this proposal already, and some of those who have said they would quit the coalition, precipitate its collapse, if this proposal were to go ahead. so that puts pressure on mr netanyahu potentially to pull back from it all. so i think the white house is trying to bounce the two sides into making progress. that is why mr blinken is here. there are also some strong motivations, really, for the israeli leadership to some extent the top echelons of hamas to play for a bit more time here, but among those who are trying to rush this through, the white house, president biden, desperately seeking an agreement before the us presidential election campaign gets under way proper later in this year. but so far, here from the region, few signs of any here from the region, few signs ofany imminent here from the region, few signs of any imminent breakthrough. in france, political parties are scrambling to get ready after president macron called surprise parliamentary elections across the country, several years before he needed to. he made the move after his ruling alliance was roundly defeated in sunday's european elections, with france's far—right national rally securing an overwhelming victory for seats in the european parliament. president macron�*s decision to go to the polls after such a stinging result is being seen as a huge gamble by some, as he risks becoming a lame duck president if he loses. nick beake reports from the town of coulommiers, east of paris. emmanuel macron visited the site of one of the worst nazi massacres in france, perpetrated 80 years ago today. he's been drawing on the past to highlight what he claims is the current threat confronting the country — from the far—right. in the face of his opponents�* success this weekend, the president has taken an almighty gamble in calling a snap election. a0 miles outside paris, this is coulommiers, the land of cheesemaking, where support for macron has crumbled. the members of the monday club said they hadn't veered to the right. but then we met 31—year—old mum of three noemi, a worker in an elderly care home, who says she's desperate for something new. translation: what frightens people could actually do them good, so we should try the national front because france is getting worse. i'm scared to leave my house and the public transport is not safe. whatever the result of these snap parliamentary elections, emmanuel macron is set to stay on as president for another three years but a national rally victory could have a huge impact here and in many parts of france. it would also be hugely symbolic too because in just six weeks�* time, the country will host the olympic games and by then, france could have its first far—right government since the second world war. this is the 28—year—old who could be france's prime minister in a month. through his social media, jordan bardella has been winning young supporters in particular, focusing on the cost of living — softening the image of a party once condemned as unelectable and working alongside marine le pen. she hopes to replace macron as president in 2027. so can national rally translate their victory at the european elections to the national vote? so they have some kind, say, of a political virginity — people say, we do not know what they will do if they come to power but nevertheless, let's give them a try and if we are not happy, we will have election next time and we'll get rid of them. it's not clear what the president's thinking is but his legacy will be defined in the coming weeks. nick beake, bbc news, outside paris. in the uk, the prime minister has apologised again and asked for forgiveness after leaving d—day commemorations early. during a campaign visit on monday, rishi sunak said it hadn't crossed his mind to resign. in an interview on monday evening, he said it has been a tough few years, but the election was about the future and the country had turned a corner. our political editor chris mason has more. one of the key things we want to do in this election is put your questions to those seeking your questions to those seeking your support. we're calling it your voice, your vote. you've told us how much housing matters to you, so we put that directly to the prime minister tonight. having your own home has got harder under a conservative government, hasn't it? it has not government, hasn't it? it has got harden — government, hasn't it? it has got harder. and _ government, hasn't it? it has got harder. and i _ government, hasn't it? it has got harder. and i want - government, hasn't it? it has got harder. and i want to - government, hasn't it? it has i got harder. and i want to make sure that it's easier and what we will do is notjust build homes in the right places, and do that in a way that is sensitive to local communities, but make sure that we support young people into greatjobs so they can save for that deposit. the brutal truth is that a party that's been in powerfor 14 years has a long track record to scrutinise, but how different things may have been or could be in the future under any government is worth pondering too. so, on housing, why would it be any better under labour? it why would it be any better under labour?— under labour? it was a staggering _ under labour? it was a staggering admission l under labour? it was a - staggering admission from rishi sunak tonight that effectively so many young people are priced out of the housing market. the dream of home ownership is transformative for young tra nsformative for young people. it's transformative for young people. it's why we've said we want to build morehouses, but reforming the planning rules which hold back house—building. these half—hour interviews with all the main party leaders offer the chance to explore plenty of topics, like the prime minister leaving the 0—day commemorations early. d—day commemorations early. do you understand that for quite a lot of people watching, i think, they simply think that the basic duty of the prime minister, the duty, was for you to be in that photograph, and not david cameron?— to be in that photograph, and not david cameron? well, that's wh i've not david cameron? well, that's why i've apologised _ why i've apologised unreservedly for the mistake and i hope people can find it in their hearts to forgive me. my in their hearts to forgive me. my duty is also to make sure that this is a country which looks after our veterans, which is why i'm proud that there is a veterans minister sitting around the cabinet table. find around the cabinet table. and what about — around the cabinet table. and what about the _ around the cabinet table. and what about the reform uk leader nigel farage, who manages to haunt, bamboozle and excite conservatives in roughly equal measure? isn't your problem that many conservatives think he's more of a conservative than you are? well, at the end of the day, or onjuly 5, there is only going to be one person who's going to be prime minister, it's keir starmer... be prime minister, it's keir starmer. . ._ be prime minister, it's keir starmer... �* �* ., ., starmer. .. and i'm asking about niel starmer. .. and i'm asking about nigel farage? — starmer. .. and i'm asking about nigel farage? and _ starmer. .. and i'm asking about nigel farage? and i'm _ starmer. .. and i'm asking about| nigel farage? and i'm answering the question- _ nigel farage? and i'm answering the question. the _ nigel farage? and i'm answering the question. the choice - nigel farage? and i'm answering the question. the choice is - nigel farage? and i'm answering the question. the choice is for i the question. the choice is for keir starmer or myself. a vote for anyone who is not a conservative candidate is just making it more likely that keir starmer is that person. and making it more likely that keir starmer is that person. and so to the conservative _ starmer is that person. and so to the conservative manifesto, that published bundle of promises, coming in the morning. a tomorrow you'll promise more tax cuts? ~ ., ., tax cuts? we will have a manifesto _ tax cuts? we will have a manifesto tomorrow - tax cuts? we will have a | manifesto tomorrow that tax cuts? we will have a - manifesto tomorrow that builds on all the things that you've just gone through, but we've already announced in the campaign that, yes, does continue to cut people's taxes because i believe in a country where people's hard work is rewarded. he where people's hard work is rewarded-— where people's hard work is rewarded. ., , ., , ., rewarded. he has to believe, to ho e, rewarded. he has to believe, to hepe. too. _ rewarded. he has to believe, to hepe. too. that— rewarded. he has to believe, to hope, too, that something - rewarded. he has to believe, to hope, too, that something willl hope, too, that something will turn up for him politically, and quickly. the polls aren't budging for rishi sunak. his manifesto might be one of his last chances to shift the dial. around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. you're live with bbc news. we turn now to the korean peninsula where the us and south korea have been discussing how to deal with nuclear threats from pyongyang. the nuclear consultative group finalised its guidelines that spell out how to deter north korea from a nuclear attack, and how washington and seoul should respond to any strike. they've agreed to test the strategy during joint drills this summer. it comes as a propaganda battle escalates on the border involving trash—filled balloons and blaring loud speakers. for more, let's speak to sue thompson, associate professor at the national security college for the australian national university. thank you very much for your time here on newsday. well, south korea and the us working on that joint strategy south korea and the us working on thatjoint strategy — what, in your opinion, have been the highlights for you so far from the meeting?— highlights for you so far from the meeting? highlights? well, the meeting? highlights? well, the united states _ the meeting? highlights? well, the united states has _ the united states has reaffirmed its commitment to support south korea and support the integration of south korean defence with united states nuclear capability. what's also quite interesting is that the united states has come out and said, in any event of an attack, from the north korea against south korea, there will be, quote, "united states department of defence says there'll be "overwhelming and decisive response" which is quite interesting as well and this, of course, as you said in your lead—in, this, of course, as you said in yourlead—in, is this, of course, as you said in your lead—in, is coming at a time of increased propaganda tensions between the north and the south, so it's going to be an interesting summer ahead. yes. and if i could pick a little bit on the specifics, well, joint drills focused on nuclear installations is one aspect. there is talk of deploying some nuclear submarines. would you say there is a risk of possible pushback from pyongyang? how will they view the developments? i from pyongyang? how will they view the developments?- view the developments? i think pyongyang _ view the developments? i think pyongyang will _ view the developments? i think pyongyang will view _ view the developments? i think pyongyang will view these - pyongyang will view these developments as quite... you know, with concern. i think there is potential of pushback. whether it would ever go to any sort of escalation is... not sure about that because, of course, that would get to quite a serious point. the united states and south korea have beenin states and south korea have been in a mutual defence treaty since 1953, since the armistice in the korean war, so, you know, always been those military connections and the united states forces have been stationed in south korea, so how far pyongyang would go is unsure. a lot of people see kim jong—un as, you know, not a very reliable character in terms of what his motivations might be. with this balloon incident, kimjong—un's might be. with this balloon incident, kim jong—un's sister just recently came out and expressed how it was a serious incident, and it could escalate, so, you know, tensions are heightening in this situation.— tensions are heightening in this situation. you mentioned in our this situation. you mentioned in your first — this situation. you mentioned in your first answer _ this situation. you mentioned in your first answer that - this situation. you mentioned in your first answer that this i in your first answer that this was also washington's way of affirming their commitment to south korea's defence. how solid do you see that commitment, given the fact that there are multiple fronts open for the us? you've got the ukraine—russia war. you've got the conflict in the middle east. you've got the south china sea. how do you see this progressing from a us point of view? i progressing from a us point of view? ~' ,, ., view? i think the us would really rather _ view? i think the us would really rather it _ view? i think the us would really rather it didn't - really rather it didn't progress. you know, there is that problem. there's the problem in the south china sea. the united states has problems with taiwan, although a lot of analysts don't believe that china has intentions towards any sort of military activity towards taiwan at the moment. but, as you say, there's a lot of these tensions going on globally and, of course, the united states is just about to embark on their own presidential election campaign and anything could happen as a result of those elections in november. result of those elections in november-— result of those elections in november. ~ �* , , november. we've seen this, you know, propaganda _ november. we've seen this, you know, propaganda war _ november. we've seen this, you know, propaganda war - - know, propaganda war — currently balloons full of garbage. you've got loudspeakers as well. explain to us what we're seeing and whether this is leading up to something more. so what's also behind this — so there's been propaganda warfare has been going on between north and south korea, you know, for decades. and at this recent tensions, this recent tension is a concern because back in 2018, the two sides had a deal to reduce military tensions between them. and just last week, south korea decided to walk away from that 2018 deal, so that is something that is underlining in the back ground of awful this as well. and the rubbish... and north korea's response has been to recent spate of south korean balloons, south korean activists sending balloons over the border, with us drives of propaganda, k—pop and k—cinema with them, so this has been seen as a response. and now south korea is saying that they're going to start blaring, have loudspeakers blaring, have loudspeakers blaring again — they've done it in the past across the border — so it is quite a serious escalation.— so it is quite a serious escalation. �* . . ., �*, escalation. i'm afraid that's all the time _ escalation. i'm afraid that's all the time we _ escalation. i'm afraid that's all the time we have. - escalation. i'm afraid that's all the time we have. sue l all the time we have. sue thompson, thank you very much for your thoughts and your views on that developing story. let's take a look at some other stories in the headlines. a plane carrying malawi's vice president has gone missing. the aircraft left the capital, lilongwe on monday morning, but the malawi defence forces say it has gone off the radar. the vp, saulos chilima and nine others are believed to have been on board. the president has ordered a search and rescue operation. yemen's houthi rebels have accused 11 un staff and several aid workers of being part of an american—israeli spy cell. the un staff — all believed to be yemeni nationals — were detained in the capital sanaa last week.the un has called for their unconditional release. fine particles in the air may have caused 135 million premature deaths over a ao—year period — according to new research. researchers at singapore's nanyang technological university believe more than half the premature deaths occurred in china and india. particle pollution is caused by vehicle emissions, industrial processes, wildfires and dust storms. it's nearly ten years since the so—called islamic state created a caliphate across iraq and syria, and its reign of terror spread far and wide. thousands from the yazidi religious minority were killed and many more were kidnapped and enslaved. the pain has never gone away for famlies who've continued in their search forjustice. now one yazidi family is attempting to sue um huthaifa, the widow of the is leader, who's accused of being involved in sex trafficking and abuse at her home. feras kilani reports from iraq on one family's search forjustice. yazidis fleeing for their lives across northern iraq in 2014. persecuted by the islamic state, thousands were killed. more were kidnapped and taken as sex slaves. suad was one of them. ten years on, we returned to the family home from where she was abducted by is fighters. translation: there is no one left from my family, _ only me and my brother survived. at the age of 1a, she was taken captive and suffered years of sexual abuse. suad's sister and her uncle hamid's daughter are still missing. now they are determined to fight for justice for what happened to her and the family. the girls were kept at the home of is leader abu bakr al—baghdadi. it's believed they were then sold as sex slaves. al—baghdadi's widow umm hudaifa is now being held in a prison in baghdad. suad is taking her to court for her alleged past and their ordeal. i spent two hours with umm hudaifa. she admits the two missing girls did stay at her home. translation: at the time, i felt ashamed. _ how is it that women could be degraded to such an extent? i was entirely against it, but i was a helpless woman. suad insists that umm hudaifa is not innocent and she must be confronted with her crimes. suad and hamid are accusing umm hudaifaof sex trafficking and abuse. he assaulted a worker. translation: it's| al-baghdadi's wife. she's a criminal like him. where is my family? i can't find them. isn't it because of both of al—baghdadi and his wife? i won't forgive her. i will take my and other yazidis girls' revenge. iasked umm hudaifa why she didn't help the girls escape. i myself couldn't leave. how was i supposed to help her? i don't deny that my husband was a criminal. i'm very sorry about what they went through, but i wish they would know that i had absolutely nothing to do with this. abu bakr al—baghdadi led is, an extremist jihadist group. this brutal organisation carried out crimes including murder, torture, kidnapping and enslavement. he was killed in a us raid in 2009. umm hudaifa says her husband was changed forever during detention at a us from prison in 200a. translation: i've always l asked him about that change in his mental state. and he used to tell me that he was exposed to something i could not understand. i believe that he was subjected to sexual torture during his detention. the pentagon didn't reply to a request for a comment on her claims. al—baghdadi's death didn't end the yazidis' search for justice. for many, the trauma continues — thousands are still missing. but this family may be heading towards justice and could have someone who may be held accountable. feras kilani, bbc news, baghdad. that's all for now. stay with bbc news. hello there. for most of us, it has been a disappointing start to the week in terms of the weather. a frequent rash of showers, particularly across scotland. gusts of winds coming from the north and in excess of 30 mile an hour at times. temperatures struggled to get into double figures, but it was a slightly different story further south and west. just look at anglesey, beautiful afternoon, lots of sunshine and temperatures peaked at around 18 or 19 degrees. high pressure is continuing to nudge its way in from the west. so west will be best through the course of tuesday. there's still likely to be a few showers around, but hopefully few and further between. most frequent showers certainly are going to be across eastern scotland and down through eastern england. so sunny spells and scattered showers going into the afternoon. that will have an impact with the temperature 1a or 15 degrees. but again, with a little more shelter, a little more sunshine, 17 or 18 celsius, not out of the question. a few scattered showers moving their way through northern ireland and scotland. hopefully some of these will ease through the afternoon, but you can see those temperatures still really struggling, ten to 15 degrees at the very best. now, as we move out of tuesday into wednesday, this little ridge of high pressure will continue to kill off the showers. so wednesday is likely to be the driest day of the week and make the most of it, there's more rain to come, but it will be a pretty chilly start once again to wednesday morning. single figures right across the country, low single figures in rural spots. but hopefully the showers should be a little bit few and further between and more favoured spots for those showers once again to the east of the pennines. more sunshine out to the west. temperatures generally similar values to what we've seen all week, 10 to 18 degrees the high. but the wind direction will start to change as we move into thursday. unfortunately, towards the end of the week, this low pressure will take over. we'll see further spells of rain at times, some of it heavy. but the wind direction will play its part a little. a south—westerly wind means that we will see temperatures climbing a degree or so. don't expect anything too significant because we've got the cloud and the rain around. but it's not out of the question that across eastern and southeast england we could see highs of 20 celsius. take care. apple enters the race to bring generative al to consumers with a big partnership. we'll have all the details. and we'll take a close look at the chinese electric vehicle market which is set to be hit by tariffs from the european union. hello and welcome to business today. i'm arunoday mukharji. let's begin in california, where apple has made a splash with its announcements on artificial intelligence. the much—anticipated worldwide developers conference kicked off on monday, and the company spelled out the new features for iphones, ipads, and macbooks. our north america business correspondent erin delmore has the latest. the hottest abbreviation in tech these days is easily ai. apple is taking shot at redefining artificial intelligence into apple intelligence. the company unveiled a series of micro when related announcements at its worldwide developers concerts on monday chief among them a partnership with the artificial intelligence juggernaut openai. that will allow apple to integrate start up's cutting edge chat bot chatgpt into its devices including a superpowered series. the voice assistant will be available with chatgpt features for free later this year. other new additions include ai generated images of a mode help with proofreading in tone adjustment. these announcement are the big stand

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that is tonight's the last word. the 11th hour with stephanie ruhle starts now. tonight, donald trump met his probation officer. we will look at a key step as sentencing approaches. the fate of hunter biden is in the hands of a delaware jury. nba legend steve kerr is here and why he speaking out about the stakes in the election as the 11th hour gets underway. good evening once again. we are 148 days away from election. today, one of the leading candidates for president met with his probation officer. donald trump brush off his guilty verdict set for a standard presentencing interview this afternoon, there was nothing standard about how this interview was held. trump got special permission to attend virtually from florida and to have his attorney todd blanche present. he's been complaining for months about it two tiered system of justice and he is right. is new public defenders pointed out today, most people do not get to login remotely from a resort in florida to talk to their probation officers. as for is what happens in these interviews, probation officers generally ask about financial resources, mental health, and any links to other convicted criminals. they also have to ask if you feel remorse for the crime you were convicted of. meanwhile, in delaware, the hunter biden firearms case went to the jury after both sides made closing arguments. hunter biden chose not to take the stand. here is ryan nobles with more. >> reporter: tonight, it's in the hands of the jury. six men and six women deliberating the fate of hunter biden, the first child of a sitting american president to be charged with a crime. many members of the first family in the courtroom throughout the trial. all of this is not evidence. gesturing around the courtroom and in the direction of first lady jill biden in the first row. people sitting in the gallery are not evidence he said adding no one is above the law. the special counsel's office use the president's son of lying on a federal back on check by checking the box claiming he was not an active drug user to purchase a gun. prosecutors used evidence from his laptop and called 10 witnesses, many describing hunter biden's frequent drug use including around the time he filled out the background check in october 2018. hunter biden's ex-wife testified she found drug paraphernalia inside his car in october 2018. his ex-girlfriend who was dating him at the same time singing hunter was smoking crack every 20 minutes or so. the evidence was personal. it was ugly. it was overwhelming he told the jury today. it was also absolutely necessary. defense attorney abbe lowell argued they focus too much on his drug abuse over a four year period and saying no one witnessed actual drug use during the window of time he purchased the gun. >> with that, let's do smarter with the help of our leadoff panel. pulitzer prize for investigative reporter with the washington post sam stein acerra veteran federal journalist and white house editor for political and a neighbor of carol. former new york prosecutor and civil rights attorney charles coleman jr. is here. you know it's a big night so you get first crack. donald trump met with his probation officer. help us understand the purpose of these interviews and how do they go and what do we know about what was asked in this one? >> when your probation officer will ask you questions, what they're trying to understand is what your setup is around your life. how do you live. what your financial resources are and what would be the impact of a particular sentence of a judge decides to send you to jail. are there people who depend on you? are you associating with other criminals which we know in the case of donald trump, he is. we could go down the long list. steve bannon, roger stone, michael flynn, the list goes on and on. one of the things a probation officer is looking to ascertain, and you talked about this, is whether you have any understanding and/or appreciation for the crime you're actually committed up. i think donald trump has a difficult tightrope when it comes to everything he said in the public around this persecution rather than what he knows is actually in the prosecution by the das office, and that will be something that will be hard to get around. the probation report is going to be something the judge takes into account when they make their decision around what sentence they ultimate -- ultimately oppose. they will make the recommendation and trump's attorneys will argue for as lenient of a sentence as possible. >> sam, donald trump has been arguing for months and months that there's a two cheered data tiered justice system and its benefiting him. he got to meet virtually with his probation officer. his lawyer was there and when he speaks at his rallies he's always saying i am doing this for you. i am standing here for you. but any trump supporters were in his position, they would not get the special privileges. why do they keep buying this? >> you are right. when you think back to the gag order that was imposed on trump at various points in the criminal case, that was almost done with reluctance compared to what it would've been for any other person in the justice system. obviously, donald trump is a unique person in the justice system that he's running for president currently. it makes sense that some leeway is given to him. the justice system works in his favor and i would argue the second story, hunter biden's story, it is not a justice system. the presidents own department of justice is bringing a case against his son. if there was a thumb on the scale of the justice system on the part of president biden, one thing he would do it to alleviate the burdens on his son and maybe let it go away and the president sat back and watched this progress to the point where we will probably get a verdict in the next day or so. >> carol, get it's been a crazy last eight years and people have become desensitized. it is not even remotely normal for the presumptive gop nominee to be meeting with his probation officer. what is your reaction to this extraordinary moment in american history? >> i've thought a lot about that and how numb the country has become to everything that we have watched in the last eight years. nobody can forget and yet we almost act like it was no big deal when then republican nominee for president, donald trump, was caught on live tape talking about grabbing women in the using a course word and saying he could get away with it because he was a celebrity. starting then and continuing on, it was like a starting gun of every other week, every other two weeks, revelations about donald trump as candidate and as president that made us all gasp and wonder, can he survive this? donald trump is the republican nominee for president again. he is the front runner in this race by many polls, and he is a felon who has been convicted of 34 counts of crimes in the state of new york. the city and the town, where he once ruled. all of us are like, oh, yeah, that's how it is. that's sort of the standard now for the last eight years. it's important for us all to step back and remember that no president and no former president has ever been charged with a crime and now we have one who has been convicted and is seeking to return to the white house. >> charles, an appellate lawyer wrote that donald trump's chances of winning an appeal are pretty slim. what do you think? >> i think so. when you talk about what it is to appeal a jury verdict, the first thing people need to understand its an rare occurrence that the system will look at the decision that is made by our constitution where you get a chance to have your case heard in front of a jury of your peers, which donald trump did, and override that decision absent some extreme miscalculation by the judge or extreme actions by one of the attorneys. judge merchan does not get enough credit for the way he ran this trial. i think he was aware that all eyes needed to be dotted and all his teas needed to be crossed and that's why he did on such a -- run such a tight ship to make sure there were as few issues for appeal as possible. that doesn't mean donald trump's attorneys won't seek to find an issue but the likelihood of being successful is slim to none. >> sam, dal bragg says he will testify before the house about the trump case but most likely not until after donald trump gets sentenced. he knows what he is going to face with house republicans. how do you think he will handle this? >> i mean, we knew the house republicans were going to do this. they signaled they want to protect donald trump and want to go after the prosecution. there has been overtures they want to defund jack smith for instance. bringing alvin bragg to the hill is something we should've expected a long time ago. i'm surprised they didn't push harder prior to this. i would point to the fact that a jury trumps peers made the determination he was guilty of 34 counts. that's the aspect of the american justice system that trump was right to defense and he was given defense. there will be questions about, who was on his team and funding them? what it comes down to is this is how the american justice system is designed to work. trump at his day in court and had his defense. that is that. the decision was made by a jury of 12 and you have to live with it that's what we do. >> charles, let's shift to what sam was talking about. the hunter biden case. what did you make of both sides, closing arguments, and hunter not taking the stand? >> it didn't surprise me that hunter biden did not take the stand for a number of reasons. number 1 comments difficult for hunter biden to give testimony in any way that will try to exonerate him or at least defend against those charges without either incriminating him or at least admitting publicly about his substance abuse. i think that is something he wanted to avoid. i think his team wanted to avoid that and if you are looking at this, it's something that would not of been well for the biden administration to have in the headlines. not that that has an impact on hunter's actual case or charges per se, but i think it was part of the calculus here. with respect to what you heard from the prosecution, this was straightforward. many legal experts myself included understand that when the special prosecutor on the case that joe biden allowed to stay on the case brought the charges, that is, if anything that we've seen recently is a mass political prosecution we have seen. i say that because for these federal charges to be brought, you typically don't see that absent some additional violent events involving the actual handgun or the weapon that is in question. that's not the case here. hunter biden is not charged with that because we don't have those facts. robert hur decided to bring the charges against hunter biden and the case for the prosecution is relatively straightforward. none of this surprises me. what the defense did a closing argument is you work with the facts you have. they don't have gray facts so they have to call into question the time line. i don't know if that will be enough for a jury to either acquit him or result in a mistrial. >> sam, the president has already said he will not pardon his son. if he is found guilty, he could be taken into custody . how is the administration, campaign, going to react to this? >> they have been hands-off about a. they are not hiding the fact this is taking an emotional cole, mental pool, on the president. he is a there. when you ask about -- present enough, they are hands off. there's discomfort in the white house to even talk about the issue with the president himself. he does not want to discuss it. it's not that he doesn't think it's a political fallout but it's too raw for him. the question, will republicans tried to capitalize on a guilty verdict, and if so, what manifestation? we have a debate coming up. it's not beyond the realm that donald trump will not try to use something during the debate and what we've been surprised to see is how little republicans are talking about the hunter biden trial including trump himself. it doesn't come up that much. it used to be a topic of discussion but not recently. you wonder if that's because they don't want to draw attention to trump's own legal mishaps or tested it out and realize there might be boomerang effect where people are sympathetic or empathetic to joe biden if you go after his son, part of what the issue is, issue of addiction. >> carol, no topic. your paper, "the washington post", has this story out over the weekend about the trump ally with a quote post constitutional vision for a second term. the man's name is russell, what can you tell us about this? >> beth reinhard on our national investigative team for this great reporting that presages the future and right donald trump presidency. the kinds of people he is entrusting to make the plans for his new administration. he was a deputy omb director and had been in congress as a staffer for a long time and other federal agencies. he knows his way around the legislative and the executive parts of our government. he is using that knowledge to broadly expand the powers of the executive, if trump takes office. to the point of saying he will find a way for the justice department to prosecute and imprison those who he feels is wrongly gone after the president in the past including journalists. that includes political figures think the biden family members. he has said rather he is said to confidantes that he would work very hard to loosen the military's ability to take action at the president's command to stop protests that are against the president. to interfere perhaps in elections. the military would be an entity the president could send it to domestic situations and something we have avoided ever since the horrors of kent state for example. it's a person who believes in the unitarian executive theory but is proposing things behind closed doors. he may end up being the chief of staff for the president. he is proposing things that send a chill up the spine of those who really study democracy and its norms. >> here's my head scratcher. there's a lot of conservatives who say they do not like trump what they like his policies. these are the same people who are all about small government with limited power. this, this man and this plan. isn't that the complete opposite of small government, limited power? this is big government with ultimate power. >> well, i think one thing you have highlighted on your program consistently, if i can give you a hat tip, is the idea of the hypocrisy. the republican party for as long as i have been a reporter which i'm embarrassed to tell you how long it has been, has always been about criminal justice and serious tough law enforcement. it's been the party of being concerned about foreign adversaries, rough it -- russia chief among them but that's all out the window now with trump as president. putin is a great guy and the new republican party. he is a fan of donald trump therefore he is awesome. getting tough on criminals? not important anymore because we really want to support certain criminals who have been unfairly, and to use this in quotation marks, unfairly persecuted. that is the line the republican party is pushing. again, this notion of big government as being anathema to the government party is out the window as well. if it suits donald trump. that's the litmus test for republicans who want to stay in power. >> people can vote how they like but it's our job to shine a light so people understand exactly who and what they are voting for. carol, was great to see you. sam, charles thank you. nine months into the war and five americans are still being held hostage by hamas. why the white house is considering a new strategy for negotiations. after months in a dead heat in the polls with trump, president biden is revving up his engines and maybe even changing lanes. the 11th hour just getting underway on a monday night. da. with absorbine pro, pain won't hold you back from your passions. it's the only solution with two max-strength anesthetics to deliver the strongest numbing pain relief available. so, do your thing like a pro, pain-free. absorbine pro. norman, bad news... i never graduated from med school. what? 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>> the most effective way to achieve that, get them home, is through the proposal on the table. let's see if we get an answer from hamas. >> for more, peter baker white house chief correspondent for the "new york times". is this a sign the white house is frustrated with the pace of negotiations between israel and hamas? >> obviously, it's been nine months and these american hostages have been there the entire time. the american government has deferred to the israeli government when it comes to dealing with the hostages. they have dual citizenship and israel is on the ground and united states is not. it suggests an in patients with the biden administration that its own hostage, american hostages, remain in limbo while netanyahu and hamas remain at odds over the cease-fire proposal. you heard secretary blank and say that it's hamas that has yet to accept this proposal. i think that's important point they want to make that israel has agreed to this despite the public ambiguity. right now, they're frustrated it's taking so long and seems to not be heading toward a conclusion and they seem to be willing to think of ways to get the americans at this point out if there's a way to do it. >> president biden is not the only one expressing frustration. benny gantz just resigned from israel's work cabinet saying it's a prime minister and he is standing in the way a real victory. what does that signal to you about the state of the war effort and prospects for new elections over there? >> it's a big deal and it's been remarkable to work cabinet has hung together as long as it did. benny gantz has run against netanyahu multiple times and the idea they sat together in this work cabinet is a remarkable situation. it's hard to imagine joe biden and donald trump sitting together in a unity government. at this point, he's decided enough is enough and it's not working. the prime minister netanyahu is an obstacle toward a resolution to the conflict rather than a leader. that puts netanyahu in an awkward position but it may require him to rely even more so on his far right-wing coalition to stay in power. he has to appeal to the parts of his coalition that he himself might affect comfortable in order to keep his majority they can avoid further elections. we will have to see where it leads. there's not much chance or at least not a lot of optimism for prime minister netanyahu they could win another election but he's been an enduring figure for a long time and israeli politics. >> let's stick with the right wing and change locations. you were just in france and when president biden was there, he spent a lot of time trying to reassure nato allies who are nervous about a second trump term. i want to know how his message was received and we keep hearing about our european allies, worried about trump, but there were a bunch of elections that took place last week in europe and they were big winds for the far right. it's not just a u.s. issue but it's happening over there as well. >> it's not just a u.s. issue. the european elections on sunday were a remarkable shift in power toward the right. you saw macron of france who host a president biden the night before at the state dinner where they held hands and effect in favor of establishment politics, and also rock that he's calling new elections in france himself to see if he cannot win over his own public where he is not very popular re-there. these guys will get together in italy at a g7 meeting and they will talk about these issues like gaza, ukraine, do. president biden has a low approval rating, his at home is higher than some of the other leaders who will be at the summit. there's a time when the establishment politicians of the major industrial powers are on their back heels a little bit amid this right-wing populism we are seeing in europe and the united states. >> peter, you always make a smarter. thank you for being here. when we come back, stubborn polls and has the biden campaign getting a read data revving up the race in the 11th hour. hour. if you're one of the millions of people with diabetes who suffer from low and high blood sugar, dexcom g7 is one of the easiest ways to take better control of your diabetes. my blood sugar would suddenly spike or really go low out of nowhere. it was really scary. 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(announcer) dexcom g7 helps protect against highs and lows. call now! the biden campaign is making big changes after listening to months of public and private concerns from democrats. their switching up the style and launching major policy initiatives both to lockdown voters already on board while trying to pull new ones in. i want to bring it msnbc contributor brian tyler: and former adviser to george w. bush and john mccain. were not talking one or two small changes. the president is revamping his policy portfolio and will refer to trump is a convicted felon and he sitting for interviews beyond traditional media. you to sit down with vice president harris. what do you make of these changes? >> i think it is smart. reach people where they are. people are getting their news from less traditional outlets and people are watching the news less frequently anyway and people are checking out. it's smart to reach these people where they are and find them where they are not paying attention to the more traditional issues. the biden campaign recognizes whatever it has to do as we head toward crunch time. >> this is not just about his base. it's nikki haley voters, independence, and never trumper's. the people who could make or break the election which is currently by a lot of polls in a dead heat while press -- former president trump is not looking beyond his base. will this work for biden? >> well, yeah, he has to look beyond the base. that's where the election will be decided. i remember when the bush campaign was in trouble in 2000. we had to do a reset and we got pushed into it. we didn't want to do it and ultimately we decided we needed to because we had to. part of it was making changes but a big part is doing a reset for the press and the larger public to say, we heard the message. we are doing things differently. it makes sense practically speaking and make sense of the speaking that you are sending a message that you heard the message and we are doing things differently. in this campaign, it's so razor thin that biden has to do everything right and this is one of them. this is good. >> one of the things he needs to do is turn up the volume on the things donald trump is saying. they are seizing on some of the comments that trump made it his nevada rally this weekend. i will share a bit. >> you feel that? i don't want anybody going we need every vote. i just want your vote. i don't care about you. >> what i just heard him say, i don't care about you. i just want your vote. did the rally attendees here this? what? >> did they hear that? they have selective hearing. donald trump can say anything on god's green earth and they will cheer on cue. it's important that americans more broadly here it because that's him giving the game away. he doesn't care about anybody. trump's only goal is to keep himself out of prison. to make prosecutions against them go away. he has brought forward no plans to lower costs. nothing to lower health care costs. nothing to increase the amount of jobs. he has no plans for housing or inflation. his campaign is predicated on keeping himself out of prison, out of the courtrooms, and making the cases go away. and a revenge tour against the people who deign to hold him accountable for his crimes. it's a rare instance, less rare these days because he has a proclivity to see the quiet part out loud. he is saying it. if you want an example of someone who treats supporters with nothing but contempt, it someone like donald trump standing there on that stage and basically telling them what he thinks about them. >> what i like to hear about is the truth mark and billions of dollars in infrastructure funding has made its way across the country thanks to president biden's massive infrastructure bill now law. suddenly, we are seeing some house republicans taking credit for these jobs that were created but for facts say, the same republicans voted against the bill. to their constituents who might not pay attention to traditional politics or watch the news, do they know the new truth? these guys are taking credit for things they voted against. >> they are not going to hear the truth. let me make another point on the las vegas speech and the ad. there is another ad i think the biden campaign which is the best of the campaign which is donald trump in his voice talking about veterans. i think they should leave that up through election day. it's spectacularly good and impactful. trump has been complaining about it and we call that as hit dogs barking. you know he's feeling the pain so it is working. as a former ad guy, the most effective thing you can do is not say what you think the person said but let them say what they said themselves. it is great. >> brian, i want to go back to the infrastructure point. if you the biden campaign are running and local elections, what do you do about the fact that you have some house republicans patting themselves on the back, taking credit for passing things they voted against? >> i think they done an effective job at exposing these people. biden said it out loud when he was in lauren boebert's district that she tried to take credit for the infrastructure plan. it's getting into these districts and doing the side-by- side. the media has been great about showing side by sides where it's donald trump railing against toilets not flushing and trying to keep himself out of prison and biden talking about $35 inhalers. $35 insulin and $2000 a month health care plans and things that will impact regular people. they been good about that side- by-side but it's getting out there and hammering the message over and over and over again. >> they often say what is the one thing that a politician did to change your life or help you in some way? 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! i am tired. i am so tired of getting up here and offering condolences to the devastated families out there. i am so tired of the excuse -- i'm sorry, i'm tired of the moments of silence. enough. >> steve kerr is best known as an nba champion player and coach. most sports fans know him as a fantastic communicator and every postgame press conference where he broke through and spoke to america was when he spoke from the heart after the mass shooting in uvalde, texas. last week, steve kerr announced he will be endorsing joe biden for president and we will find out why. he joins us now. it's a pleasure to see you. tell us why this endorsement and why now? >> it's clear that president biden is interested in implementing gun safety measures. common sense gun violence prevention measures. i have been doing a lot of work the last 10 years with a lot of different gun safety prevention people like brady, giffords, sandy hook promise, march for our lives. i have learned so much and i know we can prevent lives. president biden is adamant that he is going to push for commonsense laws that can do that. i know trump will not do that, and so it's a simple choice for me. >> are you voting for joe biden against donald trump? >> i am voting for joe biden. i think the biggest thing for me, everybody needs to vote their conscience. i am voting on a few issues, but this is the main one. i lost my father to gun violence when i was 18 years old so i know how much pain people go through every single day in this country. i know gun violence is the number 1 killer of children in america. i know there is so much we can do about this. i think most people out there agree with me whether you are republican or democrat. 80% of people in this country want universal background checks , doesn't matter your political affiliation. we can do this but we have to steer the cruise ship. it will take time. we need to implement laws that the vast majority of our country want and president biden is willing to do the work to try to get those changes. >> you have said in the past that before you lost your father, as you said when you were only 18, you felt her life was impenetrable. nothing could get you down and bad things did not happen to you. what do you say to the folks out there who thinks gun violence is a problem but it will not affect their life so they don't make it a voting priority. >> you just don't know. it's such a common occurrence. the chances are likely that you will not be impacted, but there's a good chance that you will also. that is a scary thought. i have a granddaughter who is 18 months old. i am thinking about when she goes to kindergarten and she will have to go through mass shooting drills, and the trauma the kids all across america go through just from those drills and the possibility of facing that kind of situation. it is so traumatizing, and it's a terrible thought that all our children are feeling this way. again, we know that comm laws save lies. they absolutely do. there's so much we can do and it's my civic project that i like to work on is trying to help get, as i said, the ship moving. it will take a lot of work. it's up to us as private citizens to insist the government take the necessary moves to make that happen. >> there's a lot of public figures who share your views. many did endorse president biden in 2020, but many are staying quiet now. expressing public views right now is getting more and more difficult. the backlash is real. this is not going to be easy for you and you will get heat by all sorts of people. why did you decide to speak out? >> it's too important to save lives and it's important to do something that's important for our country. not that i can do anything by myself, but i do have a platform. if i can get the message out there, it is so important for families to talk about this issue. neighbors, friends, this is not an attack on the second amendment. this is about implementing things that can save lives. again, it could be your own child. your own mother or father, could be you. we have to understand the gravity of gun violence in our country and not just pass it off as this is the price of freedom. that's what a lot of people say. we have to have the freedom that the second amendment provides us, but it should be kids able to go to school and not being afraid. there are ways to do this. we can protect the second amendment and protects citizens with simple laws. we just have to get everybody on board. it is such a political hot button but it's not a common thought in our country that this is a controversial issue. it is not. 80% of people want universal background checks. we should have that, and that alone would save hundreds if not thousands of lives every year in america. >> you said it right there. it's a political hot button but not when you go in people's homes and use it other tables and talk about what matters to them. i do want to talk about something else that matters to you that you know a lot about and that's obviously basketball. you played with michael jordan. you know how this superstar was treated early, and the attention he got. given your first-hand knowledge, what do you think of caitlin clark's treatment so far in the wnba? >> i think it is a rite of passage for young players whether the wnba or nba. other players will test you. she reminds me a lot of steph curry. a lot of people may not remember this but in his first couple of years he was not a superstar. he is not who he is now. he had to get stronger and had to understand people were coming after him. that is what is happening with caitlin right now . it's all in the name of competition. she is handling herself beautifully. she is an amazing player but like every college player who comes in, it takes time and they've got to get stronger and more used to the contact, physicality and athleticism. she will be fine and everything she's going through now is part of being a pro. >> what do you think of the fact she won't be at the olympics? >> i am so excited. i am sorry that she won't be there but she'll have a great chance in four years. when you put these teams together, all you care about is winning. it's probably going to take caitlin a couple of years to be at the top echelon. the women's team is taking the 12 players they think can help bring home the gold and that's with the men's team did. that is the name of the game so no politics in the olympics. we just want to win. >> and i sure hope you do this year. nobody remembers when steph curry was not an absolute superstar. it's always great to see you and thank you for joining us tonight. we will have more of the 11th hour. 11th hour. rt working on contact to target tough pain at the source. for up to 8 hours of powerful relief. new advil targeted relief. hi, i'm jason. i've lost 228 pounds on golo. ♪ for up to 8 hours of powerful relief. i don't ever want to go back to wearing a 4xl shirt or not being able to climb up stairs without taking a break. so i'm committed to golo for life. thank you for watching. we were just talking about the summer olympics, it's worth noting, that minutes from now, we will officially be two years out from the 2026 world cup that will take place right here in the u.s. after 30 years, and you can stream all the action live on telemundo and peacock so get your countdown clock started now. on that note, i wish you a very good night. from all our colleagues across the networks of nbc news, thank you for staying up late with me. okay, there is a lot going on tonight.

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about that in a moment. menendez is answer he would look into it. of course, you rebate was worried about these criminal investigations going on in new jersey wolf that could have implicated people that he was close to. so he told jurors what he did was he paid nadine menendez $15,000 so she could buy a brand new mercedes in exchange for the the senators influence. he then talks about another meeting at nadine menendez, his home, where he says he wrote down the names of people who were possibly implicated in this designation, put it on a piece of paper. he said senator menendez folded up the piece of paper, put it in his pocket, then in october of 2019, he says he got a call from senator menendez. he told jurors that he felt as though this situation had been resolved and he choked up. juror he choked up wolf as he was speaking about what had happened saying that this situation had been over, and he felt he was at peace then there was this dinner in 2020 where he says menendez told him, i saved your twice, not once, but twice again, we're gonna be hearing >> bring more from jose uribe when he's cross-examine tomorrow. wolf, jason carroll on the scene for us. >> thank you very probation officer, details in the pre-sentencing interview for the full meg us president another push to end the war in gaza, un security council votes to approve a plan for a permanent ceasefire between israel and hamas, and the release of the remaining hostages. >> plus massive protests. rob to after a record number of far-right gains in europe's parliamentary elections can see cnn newsroom with linda kincaid we begin this hour in china where for us college instructors have been stabbed at a public park in a rare case of violent crime against foreigners. the victims were attacked in the city of gene lean in china's northeast they worked at cornell college, a small private liberal arts institution in mount vernon, iowa. footage third appears to show the aftermath of that stabbing appeared on china's chinese social media, but it was quickly censored little is known about the instructors conditions. there's still no word on a motive. want to bring in cnn's kristie lu stout in hong kong following the story, good to have you with us, christie so this has been described as a brutal stabbing of the body iowa representative for the district where this university is do you know if these four is still in hospital? what else can you tell us about their injuries and whether they were targeted yet linda, one of the victims is said to be doing well. >> this is a very chilling stabbing incident especially keeping in mind that violent crimes against foreigners are a rare in china. and this is the latest, what we know. so it evolves for educators from iowa's cornell college, there were wounded in this stabbing incident when they were visiting a park in jilin city that's located the northeast of china. and we do have video of the aftermath. let's bring it up once again for you in the social media video, i want you to look at the three wounded people lying on the ground. this is in invasion park and julian city. they are covered in blood. they are waiting for first responders one of them is pressing his hand on the back of his waist. all three in the video are awake. they're conscious and they're using their smartphones or tried to reach out to others. the brother one of the wounded americans, davide zab dubna, says that his brother is doing well, but the condition of the other three at this hour is unknown. and there are no reports yet of a motive. now, the president of cornell college, so that the foreign china, it's part of a partnership with the local university called beizhan university in his statement to cnn this is what he said jonathan brand told cnn, quote, we have been in contact with all four instructors and are assisting them during this time. brand says that they were with a beige and faculty member when this stabbing took place. this took place monday morning run 11, a.m. local time. no students were involved in this program. the us state department meanwhile says, it is aware of reports of a stabbing and it is monitoring the situation. the stabbing in jilin city has been trending high on chinese social media today with posts occasionally censored and some that is, they called it a terrible incident. let's bring up some example responses for you with some saying this the current state of public security pretty is not supposed to let such a thing happened. another said, it will definitely further hinder foreigners from visiting china of china has low rates of violent crime. again, violent crimes against foreigners, very rare, but the stabbing comes at a sensitive time for us. china relations, these two countries they're trying to strengthen relations, are trying to strengthen people-to-people exchanges at a time of deep tension, as we reported earlier here on cnn, chinese leader xi jinping plans to invite some 50,000 young americans to china in the next five years. and although no american students were targeted in this stabbing incident, beizhan park this incident has a chilling effect. it could discourage some young americans from going to china. linda high as the christie has the us state department responded, what more can you tell us about those partnerships between colleges in china and the us what the us state department says, it is currently monitoring the situation. there are number of programs for, um, by us universities in china, for example, nyu and shanghai. but as you can imagine, a number of these universities and american students are watching closely to see if there is an upgrade or update to the us let's travel advisory currently, the us travel advisory for trying to stands at level three, reconsider travel. the us state department has cited the risk of arbitrary enforcement of local laws, including exit bands, including the risk a wrongful, the tensions. but again, the us state department, along with the us embassy in beijing, they are currently monitoring the situation and jilin city will bring any additional update to you right here on cnn back to you. >> all right. thanks to your crystalline stout joining us from hong kong well, now, turning to two major stories from the us justice system, donald trump, the first former us president to be interviewed by probation officers in new york. ahead of his sentencing for his 34 felony convictions. and hunter biden are waiting a verdict in delaware in his trial on federal gun charges jurors is set to resume their deliberations later today but let's go first to new york, where donald trump spent less than 30 minutes meeting virtually with probation officers. there reported judge juan merchan will help decide the sentence he's 34 felony convictions scene ends. brynn gingras has the details the former president finishing his meeting with a probation officer were told from a source that lasted about 30 minutes and his camp calling it uneventful. >> now it's not clear exactly what sort of questions were asked in this meeting, but what is customary is the fact that this always happens after a defendant has either pleaded guilty or is convicted of the crimes that they're charged with. we know some of the questions that are asked are about the criminal history of that person. the family background. there finally natural background. did they ever abuse alcohol or drugs, things like this? what's also not customary and this situation of course, the fact that there is a former president as the person who is being interviewed by the probation office, but also going to happen virtually. we know that the former president was at mar-a-lago. he was there with his attorney. that was allowed by if a judge in this case. now, what's going to happen next is that trump's defense team is going to submit their own sentencing recommendation and both that along with this report made by the probation officer, will be factored into judge juan merchan's decision about what sentence trump should face for being convicted on those 34 counts just a few weeks ago. so we're waiting, of course, for that to happen. that sentencing date still set for july 11, brynn gingras, cnn, new york well the. jury in hunter biden's federal gun trial will continue deliberations in the coming hours after they heard closing arguments in the case monday, the courtroom was packed with supporters of the president's son. he decided not to testify in his own defense. cnn's paula reid has the highlights from day six of the trial in a major show of support, hunter's family members and pastor taking up three rows in court today known the parameters you don't abandon your friends and family tough time in cold using arguments, prosecutors pointed to the gallery of supporters and said, those people are not evidence and reminded the jury that, quote, no one is above the law, the prosecution directly address the most difficult element they have to prove that hunter biden knowingly lied on a federal background check form when purchasing the gun at the center of this case, the defendant knew he used crack and was addicted to crack at the relevant time period, adding that hunter would have been aware from his time in rehab that he had a problem with drugs? maybe if he had never gone to rehab, he could argue he didn't know. he was an addict at the end of his closing, prosecutor, leo wise circled back to testimony from hunters daughter, naomi, on friday, when she told the jury that when she returned her father's car to him on october 19, 2018, she did not see any evidence of drugs. but why is reminded the jury, hunter's former girlfriend, hallie biden, his brother, beau biden's widow had testified that when she found the gun in the same car days later, she found it alongside drug paraphernalia, defense attorney abbe lowell countered, warning jurors not to convict his client in properly adding it's time to end this case. he compared the trial to a magician's trick, trying to dupe the jury, saying, watch this hand, pay no attention to the other one he accused prosecutors of cherry-picking evidence to present a more timeline of hunter's drug use and said his client was not lying when he marked down that he was not an addict on that at federal form, lowell attack, two of hunter's former girlfriends who both served as prosecution witnesses in this case. he noted zoe kestan took pictures of hunter with drugs, but not in the key month of october 2018. he also reminded the jury that hallie biden could not remember specific details about when she found the gun in hunter's car and noted hunter was the one who told hallie to file a police report for the missing gun after she threw it out. hunter did not take the stand to testify in his own defense in this case. a move that would have come with potential rewards and definite risks the jury will return to court at 9:00 a.m. on tuesday to continue deliberations. now is in court monday morning as the jury heard instructions from the judge, she went through line by line explaining the rules that they have to follow as they undertake this historic decision. paula reid, cnn, wilmington, delaware was spokesperson for rudy giuliani, predicts the full nut trump attorney will be fully vindicated officials in arizona released his mug shot, uh, monday after he posted a ten $10,000 cash bond giuliani and ten, all those have pleaded not guilty to charges of conspiring to overturn the 2020 presidential election in arizona. prosecutors spent weeks trying to track him down and eventually found him based on some of his podcasts giuliani was served last month in palm beach, florida at his 80th birthday party when now is where a renewed push for ceasefire deal in gaza as the united nations holds a key vote on a plan to end the fighting between israel and hamas un security council on monday adopted a us drafted resolution which endorses a proposal for a permanent ceasefire and the release of hostages held by hamas. the resolution calls on both parties to implement the terms, quote without delay and without condition hamas said it welcomed the resolution and is ready to engage with mediators. but whether israel and to mass will move forward remains unclear here's some of the reaction from the un colleagues today, this council sent a clear message to hamas except the ceasefire deal on the table, israeli israel has already agreed to this deal and the fighting could stop today if hamas would do the same proof is in the pudding we w see who are the ones who are interested to see this resolution to become a reality. and those who are obstructing it, and they want to continue the war of genocide against our people. >> all of this coming as us secretary of state, antony blinken visits israel where he sat down with prime minister benjamin netanyahu blinken stress to him that the us and other world leaders will stand behind the proposal on the table. one that he says, israel already agreed to the secretary of state also met with many gans just days after the israeli war cabinet met number resigned from the country's emergency government and we're learning more about that israeli military operation rescued four hostages held in gaza you video gives us a sense of what that raid looks like on the ground. cnn's aren't leaving then brings us the latest. but first, i wanted at some of the images you're about to see a graphic the missiles hit at mid de, a daring operation meant to maximize the element of surprise turning a refugee camp. he knew battlefield after weeks of preparation, israeli forces moved into new sidewalk in central gaza on saturday aiming. for apartment buildings in this area, the goal to rescue four hostages that hamas held in this densely populated neighborhood one witness says some israeli special forces were disguised as hamas militants or displaced palestinians. the idf declined to comment in this newly released video, you see the moment israeli forces approach a building and then burst into the apartment with the hostage s some funding for israel the, operation was a success punctuated by the reunions eight months in the making families never gave up hope yesterday was my birthday and my weise came through i haven't stopped smiling since my mug was returned to me noa argamani was also rescued. one of the most well-known hostages video from october 7, shorter pleading for help as kidnappers drove her into gaza israelis rejoiced at news of the hostage rescue, but unity was short-lived. hours later anti-government protesters took to the streets demanding a ceasefire and hostage deal crashed. you got book doorbell on sunday or cabinet member benny gantz resigns. he accused prime minister benjamin netanyahu of slow walking the war for his political gain the head of the israeli military's gaza division also stepped down saying he failed to protect his country from hamas attack on october 7 in gaza, the israeli operation came at a staggering cost witnesses say the new sayyed refugee camp became hell on earth how does i am 60-years-old and have never experienced anything like this before. >> it is beyond imagination, a barrage of heavy gunfire, artillery, missiles, rockets. it was something unimaginable to the human mind inside al-aqsa martyrs hospital, this graphic video shows palestinians bearing the horrific wounds of heavy bombardment the hospital filled so fast, patients, including women and children, were treated wherever there was space many weren't so lucky scores were killed in the israeli operation marking one of the deadliest days in gaza in months. >> or lieberman, cnn in tel aviv let's seen as nada bashir is falling the developments and joins us now from london, good to have you with us nauta. so the us says, is essentially up to hamas to ensure that there's ceasefire plan can go forward. has there been any further response from hamas? >> we'll look in that we have in fact heard from hamas yesterday issuing a statement following the vote at un security council welcoming the decision by un security council member saying that the group is ready to work with mediators on the terms of a lasting ceasefire agreement with a focus on the full withdrawal of israeli troops from gaza. the exchange of palestinian prisoners for israeli hostages, and the return of civilians to their homes across the gaza strip, as well as an emphasis on there being no demographic shifts within the gaza strip. and of course, what we have heard from the united states up until this point is the fact that this is according to the biden administration. and israeli deal, but this has been bags by the israeli government. they are confident that they will also back a full ceasefire implementation. but at this stage, we haven't in fact seeing the israeli government publicly embracing this still certainly not prime minister netanyahu heard from members of netanyahu's coalition who do not want to see a ceasefire, a grid, in fact, just yesterday we did hear from israel's representative to the united nations saying that actually israel is not prepared to engage in what she described as meaningless negotiations with hamas at the israeli government continues to be focused on its objectives of not only dismantling the organization, in its entirety to ensure that gaza no longer poses a threat to israel but also on ensuring that all hostages there's all returned before they can agree on a for a ceasefire agreement. of course, a couple of points to go over. of course in the ceasefire agreement, that is a three-phase plan which does set out the parameters for a full exchange of hostages for palestinian prisoners. and we've heard from the biden administration saying that the eu us assessment at this stage is that hamas no longer hair is the ability to carry out an attack such as the attack that we saw on october 7, visa at one of the primary reasons why the us believes it is now the right time to strike a csi if i agreement, we have of course seen the biden administration at the united nations security council vetoing a ceasefire resolutions in the past. so the biden administration firmly believes that now is the right time. neither side has formally agreed to this resolution at the stage, despite hamas issuing a statement welcoming the resolution, we haven't seen a formal agreement. there are still at term to be in doubt. of course, within this resolution agreement, but there is mounting pressure internationally for both sides to come to a lasting a gradient. but of course, the israeli prime minister is also facing pressure at home, at mounting pressure domestically from israeli citizens who have been protesting now for weeks calling for a ceasefire agreement, calling for the israeli government to focus more on the return of hostages. but this now he's also facing pressure from within his own cabinet calling for a continuation of the war. we have seen far-right members of his coalition, including national security minister ben gvir, and finance minister bezalel smotrich, both of whom have been vocal proponent of the continuation of the war, both of whom have threatened to withdraw from government, essentially causing this neon has coalition to collapse if netanyahu does agree to a ceasefire agreement, they want to see the full destruction of hamas as netanyahu himself has expressed in the past. so certainly, a lot of pressure coming from various sides on me israeli government, but there has been mounting pressure from the international community, including some of israel's closest allies, such as the united states, for israel to agree to this deal at the us, of course, has also been calling on its regional allies in the middle east to put pressure on hamas to agree to this deal as well. but of course, we have heard from the state department in the past acknowledging that the terms of this deal, according to the state department, are nearly identical. 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de, remember the original sin of slavery? >> and the extraordinary capacity to merge and those powerful moments baneful moments with a better vision for ourselves a day reminds us. >> we have a hell a lot more work to do. so let's keep marching mr. biden invited glad he's not and patty lewbel and others to perform in a star-studded concert ahead of the actual holiday on june 19th vice president kamala harris also spoke saying this year's juneteenth would be a de of action for voting rights biden signed a bipartisan bill into law in 2021, making it an official federal holiday. juneteenth is a federal holiday marking the end of slavery in america. well massive protests to broken out across france after the far-right dealt a major blow to europe's establishment leaders over the weekend. thousands of protesters turned out in paris monday with some holding signs that read no fascists in power. after four days of voting and all 27 eu countries far-right parties, are expected to win a record number of seats in the next european parliament cnn's melissa bell has mall it was an aftershock that rivaled the earthquake of sunday nights european election results i will dissolve the national assembly tonight frances emmanuel macron were killed, snap national elections as the two main far-right parties took nearly 40% of votes in france we are ready to turn the country around ready to bring france back to life already hamstrung without an absolute majority in parliament mccoys looking to tackle the far-right head-on calling for clarity from voters on the country's future but if the far-right and copy their wins on the french stage emmanuel macron could be facing three years with a radical right prime minister. >> most likely the 28-year-old jordan bardella. >> well along with the mcconney's, a tiktok star, he brings a youth-friendly dynamic posting here about drinking the tears of my clothes fan it looks as if the fear for the future of the planet i've been replaced by the fear of what is called the great replacement. the identity quest the world is too dangerous. we don't want to be inundated by migrants coming from the middle east or africa. >> we want to be at home surrounded by all pier the far-right pulses will major wins in a host of european countries in germany, the alternative for deutschland, afd came in second its main candidates said last month that he didn't consider all members of a notorious nazi group to be criminals. >> and in italy, there were gains by prime minister giorgia meloni, brothers of italy. >> the most right-wing party to govern since fascist dictator benito mussolini. but the headlines in western europe contrast with relatively minor changes across the in nordic countries, for instance, the left and greens made sweeping gains and overrules of the political center appears to tell ensuring relative stability in the european parliament. >> we made it, and now we want the european elections confidence for now. but unease settling in, in parts of europe, most of all in france as the far-right challenges, so much of what the european union itself has come to stand for but this abel cnn earlier i spoke to cnn european says commentator dominic thomas and he explained how this far-right surge could be a good thing for donald trump if he takes office again i think it's a positive signal for him and i think it's a warning for voters that this is playing out in other areas of the world and that they're essentially as a situation in which there are governments and elected officials who are deeply committed to protecting democratic institutions and on the other hand, you have political groups, parties, and leaders who are determined to undermine the judiciary. the freedom of the press and the legislative process, and right now, certainly when it comes to the european union contexts, they see in the words of president biden, a deep commitment to democratic institutions but the european eu landscape, as we have seen, is divided. and there are many leaders and many political groups who see in president trump's track record actions, and words, a potential ally, and they also see in him somebody who is not committed to the multilateral order to the strength of the european union, or to nato so to that extent, this particular election in the eu is an indication as to where things are potentially heading in the united states and the impact that this will have on further solidifying and consolidating those parties. they're performed very well in this recent election in the european union? >> this week, of course, the us president heads to italy for the g7 summit, but he's going to meet with the french and german leaders for the first time since their party's took this hit in the european elections the us we know, is hoping that it will have a 50 billion will alone for ukraine using frozen frozen russian funds. but other nations must sign off on it. what are the expectations for that summit? >> well, i think that this moment has it's incredibly, there's a lot of uncertainty defining these moves that the two leading most important european leaders, scholtz in germany and in france, and also the countries that proportionally get the largest numbers of seats at the european union were severely dealt, a blow at this region election? and i think that there ability to concentrate and focus on this particular conflict now when they have these important domestic issues on hand, legislative elections, upcoming federal elections in germany with just about a year's time is going to make it very difficult. for them to continue to articulate those particular questions. just a few weeks ago, didn't do emmanuel macron was talking about french troops on the ground he's had to walk back. that particular question right now and turn his attention almost exclusively to what's happening in, in france. and so i think that we're going to have a g7 meeting in which many of the leaders as present or distracted by the particular contact, let alone the fact that there's an upcoming general election in the uk as well. and so focusing on these issues, focusing on the question of defending that eastern front with russia of eu enlargement. and i've ongoing military and financial support to conflict in ukraine are serious questions and a rich the outcome, right now remains uncertain. linda thanks to dominate thomas, there will coming up ukraine says it is focusing on rebuilding infrastructure destroyed in russian attacks but the chief of the country's restoration agencies as the government is putting up too many roadblocks the athletes in aws no limit of worst-case i'm ready to show the world how good i am. i trained all over the globe. and that's what you're going to see an awl whole different the we wednesday night dynamite it on tv lsl excited to buy my first home, but and needed a lot of work done on it. >> i went on to angie. >> jamie was the first person to call these resurface my fluorine. >> he's 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recovery conference. >> mrs. linskey says the top priority for that conference will be ukraine's batted energy sector ukrainians have ds for more than two years because russian forces have relentlessly targeted ukrainian power stations with airstrikes. but on the eve of the conference, the head of ukraine's agency for restoration and infrastructure development announced that he's stepping down while staff in an says he could not do the job because of unnecessary bureaucracy and opposition and resistance from the ukrainian government claire sebastian is following the developments and joins us now live from london. good to have you with us, claire. so ukrainian president in berlin for this recovery conference, just a day after the top i've official overseeing the reconstruction efforts, resigned. why the resignation is to give us some more details and what this might mean for zelenskyy yeah, linda, this is certainly not the headline that presence and he was looking for going into this conference and it's also a big week even beyond this conference, we have the g7 comprising many of ukraine's most important allies and then into ukraine's own peace summit in switzerland over the weekend, the reasons for this resignation they will be very closely watched by the west where of course the allocation and management of aid is a key issue that has impacted decision-making throughout this conflict and stephan am, who is the noun form ahead of the agency for reconstruction for restoration and infrastructure development, rather really alleging sort of mismanagement by the government going to have infrastructure projects. >> he called it bureaucratic nightmares leading to delays, a loss of confidence in the state. he doesn't alleged corruption, but mismanagement and inefficiencies. verging on in competence basically, he says that salary cuts have led also to a 25% drop in staffing and his agency. and he says that he was denied night a request to attend this reconstruction conference in berlin. this, of course, coming just a month or so after the minister for infrastructure, alexander cooper curve was dismissed and avert by parliament. we don't have an official government comments on the resignation of mostafa nan today, but so this adds to that lingering sense of discord in the zelenskyy government. and obviously a very critical time for ukraine. zelenskyy though he is already in berlin, he has already met with the german president. he will be focusing on the big picture that large and growing reconstruction bill, and the more immediate issues of course, of stabilizing and protecting the ukrainian energy grid and ramping up the air defenses, which of course are critical and stopping that reconstruction build growing even larger. linda where things stand on the battlefield and how have you queening tactics changed in recent weeks after russian advances in the east of the country and of course, there's recent pledges of western military aid the news from the front lines is slightly better than ukraine is saying that it is managed to slow the russian advance due to a combination. it says of more western aid reaching the front and also those lifting of restrictions, some restrictions on using western weapons to hit targets inside russia. it seems to be doubling down on the strategy, not only of sort of hitting across the border, but deep into russian territory. it's claiming quite a significant success over the weekend, claiming to have severely damaged a state of the art russian fighter jet and su 57 fighter jets. i'm 600 kilometers from the frontline satellite images also backing up that claim. so that is something they say that is bearing fruit. now of course, the other side of this is that this conflict is extremely deadly at the moment, the un human rights monitoring mission in ukraine said that there was a 31% increase in some billion casualties in may compared to april. it was the deadliest month in almost a year. russia is managing to wreak havoc using aerial guided bombs, glide bombs, things that can evade ukrainian defenses. so again, going into this, i think we're going to hear a lot about how ukraine will be able to protect civilian infrastructure, cities, and also those frontlines alright, claire sebastian for us in london, good to have you say across those developments. thank you will the port of baltimore's shipping channel is now fully reopened more than two months after that cargo ship crashed into the francis scott key bridge the accident killed six construction workers and the access to the crucial waterway. crews had to remove about 50,000 tons of wreckage from the river. the container ship was struck in the channel, was stuck in the channel until it was holed away on may 20, insurance experts estimate that replacing the bridge could cause more than 1.2 billion will still aecom, the us disaster relief agency has quickly running out of money after an intense tornado season justice hearken 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done in several others were injured the airline says it's offering $10,000 to h passenger with minor injuries and advanced payments of $25,000 to passengers with more serious injuries. the plane was flying from london to singapore when it hit turbulence of a member at landed in thailand officials there say the passenger who died had a suspected heart condition authorities in malawi is searching for missing military aircraft which was carrying the country's vice president and nine other people. the plane left malawi's capital shortly after 9:00 a.m. local time on monday, but never arrived at its destination. authorities have failed to make contact seen in thermidor is following the story from nairobi and joins us live larry, the rescue operation is underway for this missing plane carrying at the malawi vice president, but also nine others what are the details? >> we know now, linda, that the search and rescue operation is continuing into de two. now, we just heard a briefing from the malawi defense forces a short while ago. they say because of bad weather and poor visibility, the area has been foggy. that's been delaying the process the ten kilometer radius they have identified where the last signal from this plane was received is an uninhabited areas. so that's also kind of hindering access. but the malawi defense forces say they have 200 soldiers involved in this operation as well as some police officers and they have reached out to neighboring countries for help. president lazarus chakwera addressed malawi and overnight. and this is what he said. >> however, upon arrival and mzuzu, the pilot was unable to land the plane due to poor visibility okay. jen, by bad weather and aviation authorities advise their craft to return duly long way but. the, authorities soon lost contact with the aircraft, but i want to assure you that i am sparing no available resource to find that plane i am holding on to every fiber of hope that we will find survivors that hope is now deming. >> it's been 24 hours since this plane disappeared from raider. and it's still not been located. so the status of violence it's president saulos chilima and these nine others really a matter of great concern from so many people in malawi and across the region. the malawi government said it's reached out to neighboring countries as well as the us, the uk, norway, and israel for support in getting specialized technology and equipment to try and look pete this plane. so far, the us embassy in malawi says it has offered all its support, including department of defense, see 12 aircraft to help in this search and rescue operation. and authorities in malawi said, there'll be updating every two hours if, they know more about the location of the spleen current vice-president lyndon okay. >> we'll come back to you if there are any developments, learn madowo in nairobi. thank you well as the us braces for what's expected to be a very active hurricane season. the country's disaster relief agency could run out of money before it's even over a new report suggests female could face a budget shortfall of more than $1.3 billion by august after an extraordinary and costly number of tornadoes and severe thunderstorms in the first half of this year. cnn meteorologist allison chinchar has more in the month of may, there were officially four billion-dollar disasters according to a new report from noaa, although that number could end up going up thanks to some severe events that took place towards the end of the month, that additional four brings our total so far this year up to $11 disaster comparing that to the previous year, we ended up with 28 total for the entire 12 month timeline, but we are currently on pace to make it very close, if not possibly being higher than that number from last year, one of the biggest drivers of these disasters was a lot of the severe weather that took place not only me, but also so in april, in fact, a stretch of april through may, we ended up with 801 tornado reports. >> that is the second most since 1950. when you look at tornadoes, specifically the report's just since january 1st, we've had over 1,100 yes. this is a busy time of year, but even with that said the average would only be right around the 800 marks. so it's definitely a busier year than normal. in fact, even compared to a lot of the other years so far, we are just behind 2011 coming in second place. now, one thing to note is that may traditionally is when you end up seeing the most of those tornadoes followed by june in april respectively. so this time of year is when we normally would see it. it's just a little bit higher than usual. the big concern is going forward over the next few months because there is a concern whether or not female will run out of money for these natural disasters because hurricane season specifically is now upon us and it's expected to be an incredibly the busy one looking at the numbers, the official forecasts, renewal, calling for 17 to 25 named storms. the average is only 148 to 13 of those are expected to be hurricanes in an average year, you would only have seven. another concern in the coming months is heat, thanks to climate change, it's been a big driver and a lot of these increased heatwaves and for some of these areas were already starting to see a very early start to that heat. take, for example, phoenix and also las vegas, both of which have already had 12 consecutive days of triple-digit temperatures thanks to alison, will microsoft and google will begin offering free cyber security services to rural hospitals across the us. in an effort to make them less vulnerable to hacking attacks that could disrupt patient care and threaten lives. microsoft says it will provide free security updates for those hospitals along with security assessments for training. the hospital staff. google will provide free cybersecurity advice. some 1,800 rural hospitals in the us are at risk from dangerous ransomware attacks because they often lack adequate cybersecurity while apple is unveiling its first batch of generative ai features for the iphone, known as apple intelligence. they include ai generated emojis and a significantly smarter siri that basically turns the virtual assistant into an iphone chatbot the company says it's been impressed with the ai tools already on the market, but wanted to personalize it for apple users with privacy at top of mind. abl also revealed it's new ios 18, which includes a revamped look for icons in dark mode and redesigned control center that lets you change what you can access from the locked screen we go from a look at the high-tech future to a glimpse of the ancient past. three young boys that a family hike in north dakota stumbled upon this skeleton of a tyrannosaurus rex. their dad told the paleontologist, a friend of yours who confirm they discovered a prime specimen of a juvenile t rex two of the boys tells cnn what happened when they found the skeleton and i 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has the latest. the hottest abbreviation in tech these days is easily ai. apple is taking shot at redefining artificial intelligence into apple intelligence. the company unveiled a series of micro when related announcements at its worldwide developers concerts on monday chief among them a partnership with the artificial intelligence juggernaut openai. that will allow apple to integrate start up�*s cutting edge chat bot chatgpt into its devices including a superpowered series. the voice assistant will be available with chatgpt features for free later this year. other new additions include ai generated images of a mode help with proofreading in tone adjustment. these announcement are the big stand apple integrating ai features that have captured viewers attention and spending the big bucks rewarding terms that are not onlyjumped up but rewarding the ai bandwagon like nvidia that makes the chips that powers the ai revolution. overtaking apple itself to become the most viable company in the world by market value position. microsoft which has its own long—standing partnership with openai remains the most valuable. apple's entrance into the artificial intelligence space may be viewed as late, when compared to rivals like microsoft and google. but experts say this could herald in a new frontier for the technology. i have been speaking tojulie ask , an independent technology analyst. a few things stood out from the conference for me. first, with the announcement from apple that they are going to invent generative ai into so many of their devices applications and experiences the offer to consumers, they remind us with most of the valley with large language value is still at the application layer. they also remind us that generative ai isjust one portion of the experience. consumers do not go out and buy generative ai, they buy or invest in experiences which generative ai can make better. the third thing they remind us of this entry to the market is having access and owning a relationship with the consumers is essential for any kind of success and today apple has over two billion devices installed. where do you see the company now in the ai race, still playing catch—up? i would say yes and no. do not believe apple is late to the ai race, it is later at an expected to incorporate ai into its experience but apple has vintages of the companies do not. the first is when it comes to consumer pots personal contacts is so important and apple may have more context than any other entity. at the first iphone launch they had 16 native apps now it has at least 30 including my health information, my banking, my fitness, my e—mail, maps, my shopping, all the things that i do. so when we think about the usefulness of generative ai at a personal level, it is one thing to ask the internet, what is the best pizza to eat, it's a different thing to ask someone who knows me well. so i would say that is one of the first points. going further down the list, it certainly reminds us of privacy matters and apple is good at that. consumers do not buy technology, they invest in utilities into entertainment. consumers also would use love interface, this is not about chabad or a verbal interface with an application, generative ai will do things like create and analyse so apple is really showcasing the broad set of use cases in the way that generative ai can upgrade experiences. how are you seeing apple placed in china, it has been lacking, but do you see the demand for al making up for that? i think it will be hard with generative ai in china because these models will not translate one for one. it does not like they can't do something for translation, but they were not trained for chinese data, openai is not available in china, there is biases, issues with the language so i think we are still in a bit of a week and see in terms with these announcements need today for those consumers that own these devices in china. tesla ceo elon musk has reacted to apple's announcements. he says apple devices will be banned from his companies if it integrates openai at an operating system level. in a post on his social media platform x, he said allowing the devices would be an "unacceptable security violation". mr musk was one of the founders of openai in 2015. but he has since sued the company for allegedly deviating from its non—profit mission. turning to china, that makes most of the world's electric cars and ev batteries. a flagging economy has driven some chinese carmakers to expand overseas. but with cheaper chinese evs flooding the global market, the us has imposed tariffs on the vehicles. and the european union is widely expected to follow suit. hans greimel from automotive news gave us a sense of what's at stake. the us as you have just mentioned has a 100% tariff on exports from china and the eu is about to follow suit, although the import tariff rate is not expected to be as high. it is probably going to be around io—25%. that will probably be more than enough to offset the or to out cost the cost of exporting from china to the eu in terms of logistics and shipping. so that basically would reconfigure the cost equation that chinese auto—makers face. given the influx of cheaper alternatives to chinese evs something widely reported and talked about, what can china do in the current scenario? probably one immediate impact you will see is a shift perhaps from exporting from china to the eu, instead they will now consider building more factories in the eu, to build locally and that would be one way that the chinese will probably try to get around the idea of doing that. you see this already happening with volvo. volvo was exporting some vehicles from china back to the eu. now they are thinking about re—shoring, if you will, putting some of the factory capacity back in europe to feed the local market. over in the us, a senate panel is expanding a probe into bmw over its use of components from a banned chinese supplier. senator ron wyden found last month that the german carmaker imported at least eight thousand mini coopers into the united states, which contained parts from the chinese supplier. he is now inquiring whether the parts were found in any other bmw products. bmw did not immediately respond to a request for comment. the firm said earlier that it had "taken steps to halt the importation of affected products." lack of affordable housing is a big issue across much of the world and with an election imminent in the uk, the subject has never been more important. the uk has the highest housing costs in the english—speaking world. on average more than a quarter of disposable income is spent on housing. the bbc�*s economics editor faisal islam explores issues facing the housing sector. as the cost of living squeeze from energy and food costs starts to settle, there is no such luck with housing. mortgage and rental costs are still rising — the latter by record amounts. this is a long—term issue — basic supply and demand — as you can see at this new housing development in warwickshire. many of these new homes are going forjust over £300,000. that's bang on the average house price in this country. and we can see how that's changed over the past three decades or so — no surprise to see that line going up and up. what has changed has been the relationship with affordability. back in the late �*90s, five years�* worth of annual average income was more than the average house price. now, it's crossed over, the gap is massive and looks very difficult to bridge. it's all about house—building. successive governments over years, over decades, have made big promises on house—building, often not met. this is what's happened for england, over the past ten years, broken down per three—month quarter. a similar pattern across the united kingdom. the conservatives made a promise in 2017, a manifesto commitment in 2019, to meet a target of 300,000 homes per year by the mid—2020s, so that's about 75,000 a quarter. and then there's planning. yes, so, planning permission has therefore been refused. up and down the country, in lengthy councillors�* meetings just like these, now recorded on council websites... applause. ..there are the familiar sight and sound of new homes not being built, planning permission refused repeatedly. the two main parties do differ here. labour says it's willing to build on specific areas of the green belt that are not so green they call the grey belt. ultimately, both for buying and renting, supply not responding to demand means higher housing costs, the most enduring aspect of the cost of living crisis. more news on openai, it has appointed its first chief financial officer. sarah friar was formerly the ceo of social media firm nextdoor. the company also named a new chief product officer on monday. and that's it for this edition of business today. thanks for watching. hello and welcome to sportsday with me marc edwards. bringing you the action from day four of the european athletics in rome. teams from across europe begin to arrive in germany ahead of euro 202a. south africa squeeze past bangladesh in four runs in a final over thriller in the t20 world cup. hello and welcome to sports day with less than seven weeks ago until the olympics, some contenders have been an action ahead of the global extravaganza in paris. our reporter natalie pirks rounds up reporter natalie pirks rounds up the stories from the italian capital. up the stories from the italian caital. �* ., , _ capital. another busy night environment _ capital. another busy night environment with - capital. another busy night environment with yet - capital. another busy night i environment with yet another gold for host italy to keep them on top of the metal table. on a british point of view, there were two medals, a silver for charlie dobson in the men's from a hundred metre and a bronze in the women's pole vault finals. charlie, another personal best in what was a fantastic season so far. that he was over the moon could not be happier to take silver

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no >> i'm not going anywhere. oh, oh, it's a wild animal. summer across. >> it was a mostly peacefulnd i weekend in washington. the sun was shining, the birds the and little johnnyg. how jihadis surrounded the white house. rah, rah, rah, rah, rah, rah. oh, it was nice. i like outside, but you had a hard. the johnny jihadi is desecrating the statue of general roshan bo,oo the frenchman who, along with lafayette in washington, forcedchma the surrender of brih general cornwallis, effectively winning the revolutionary war. police made no arrests. actually, there was one arrest, but he escaped. nebiden says he's defending democracy but can't defend the demole of the genera who helped start it. it was also biden's biggestrt turnoued.t of the season.son, >> crowd size in the tens the of thousands more democrats protested biden in one night,n then showed up to support him all year. arris kamala also got showeredho with sharia love in michiganwer >> and we mourn all the innocent lives that have been lost in gaza, including those tragically los killed today.. >> for the past eight months,s, president biden and i have been workinpresidg every day to brins conflict. m sp i'm speaking right now and i value and respect your voice, but i'm speaking right now. >> while biden and kamala wereng getting heckled out of their own blue backyards, trump was on their homheckled owne turf g some california love for 40 five didn't come home empty handed. >> more on that in a minute. thene homended, mo he flew to va a campaign rally that was so hot, the teleprompter broke. >> could you imagine ifu biden was up? he iime s no good with the teleprompter is the worst i've seen. but could you imagine of thepror teleprompters were of his biden is is. cu, oh oh. >> he wouldn't even say anything because he's incapable. he'd probably go pause in a pause about what he's reading the teleprompter and thennd the they say pause, meaning, you know, maybe you'll get aboumaybe t three people clg and let's pause. now, he just walked off the stage like this teleprompter, but this guy is the worst. >> after the comedy show, trump revealed a new economi>> c policy that hard working americans are going to love. >>hard-wor you know, people areg to themselves, were we better off four years ago? are we better off now? and it wasn't even closeur o. we had the greatest economy in history. what we dif thd in taxes, nobod ever done. so thino hass is the first timee said this. and for those hotel worker s and people that get tips, you're going to be very happy, because whenyou will i get to o, we are going to not charge taxes on tips, people makingtips tips. ng and >> now, when i was a bellhop, they paid me about four, 25 an hour, but i made hundreds of dollars in cash tips, whichmn we didn't report, obviously, because they can tax dol it. tai but everything's on credit cards now. you can't hide i t. canno >> uncle sam, taxes tips. biden hired 87,000 extra irsn he agents, gave him guns to do it.t trump's tip tax cut makeske biden look like a sinister old geezer, and it's already movinlg the needle. >> i did talk with some hotel some servicerday, workers here in las vegas about how that is playing with theas howm. le tol and america, about six people told me that would change their vote, that is. enough to make them switch from voting democrat to republican ifoughke donald trump is promisg something like that to them. >> sources trump in delaware tell meble biden's a terrible tipper. usually has somebodyer else payh for him. but when he does pay no buen ho a bed tipping president who taxes tips doesn't get reelected. .a new cbs poll says the econom is the number one issue for america. hurricanes american, not the trump the conviction. that's at the bottom of the list. and it's not just the economy, stupid. turns out mosty, america wants a mass deportations, too. >> would you support a new program government program that would deport all peopl thae living ine u.s. illegally and that find a majority favor that fine. >> six and ten. >>, becausehat a bit this 62% of americans favor the deporting all undocumented immigrants. >> some of what mr. trump talks about could be illegal. it doesn't seem practicale to in some sense to round up trump holdren. >> so what exactlyp children do people think they're supporting? >> deporting illegals could be illegalse: depo. >> is the kind of brilliant analysis americans are blessed with on cbs sunday alysis as. execu >> remember biden's executive order to shut down the border ifti border crossings hit overr 2500 a day? well, border crossings have been over 2500 a day every day since biden signed the ordey er, and he hasn't shut it down. the day after he signed the ordeafter, they were 4000 border crossings. the next dayr they were 10,000. anybody hear anything about biden shutting down not the border? >> you didn't because he didn't. .why would democrats support a man like that? >> they don't?they dt. e show >> a friend of the show, nick shirley, went to compton. watch. votin >> who are you voting for in 2020 for obama. >>, obama's not even running. i don't know what i'm voting for trump, but i'm voting for trump because he put money in our pocket. >> i'm. >> tyou pu say sleepy joe. sleepy joe? no, i'm just plain probably trump. >> i ain't gonna go for trump. i will see whereus i go for trump because biden ain't showed us nothing for the people. >> give me his name. trump, bruh. >> and why so? because he for us. >> cheers to trump. joe biden has been president from 2020 to 2024. what differences have you seen t those past eight years? >> everything's going up. ass?food's going up.economie gas going up. the economy is going up. goin it's -- it's a difference, a major difference that can be done for our community. yet we're still in the ghetto. e we're still in the hood. whatever we do s. >> i haven't seen no changes, period. from compton to silicon valley,o democrats are walking away fromr the guy who can barely walk.$30l trump hauled in $30 million from his california swing. 12 million came straight at nancy pelosi's backyard. tech billionaire say they were impressed by how eloquentan and articulate trump was arti up their checkbooks. >> he wasn't the guy i seeon on tv, one source told the post. he was very thoughtfulce and self-deprecating. >> one of the billionaires who hosted the fund raiser forro trump was a lifelong democrat who says he's been forced into political homelessness as a democrat who has been left homeless, who is now deafw and only in the center, but probablyn th leaning increasingly right and left yet again with an appreciation . despite the messenger of the message of the >> jp administrationenger of t,s remorse is rippling through the democrat ranks. , >> and clinton guru james carville says, don't blame me on't. never >> i never wanted the guy isn't a choice. then i was crazy about. i actually was very public that i thought that president biden should not run for reelection, but he did. and it's him and trumpan h. and that's where i am. the lack of enthusiasm among young people for public policy or public service oror pub being involved in the publicli square is quite disheartening. >> and the democrat numbers guru nate silver announced today that the biden approvalan rating has reached an all time low and says biden is in much h worse shape than he was four years ago and is on track ack to to lose handily and suggests we might have hit the threshold loi where biden dropping out would help democrats more than if. he stuck it out. >> because what does it saybe about caus doea man who won't pt america's symbolic landmarks, mat our national sovereignty, and won't even protect workers meagert protec s from vicious irs agents during an inflationars fromy bubble tht he caused. if yy, ou love this countr you fight to protect it. >> number one, take any of thei greatest fighters of all time. trump is, number one, the most resilientrump ist human being t ever met in my life. >> and what respect? i keep doing this. you know, you got money, you got a great life. you got whatever. wha y keep doing this? and the one thing that i can tell you, and this is a factll. this guy loves this country, right? and he loves all americans, regardless of what color, religion. or whatever it is. he's not a racist. he's a good humais notn being. a >> and he loves america and he cares about this country. period. end of storynd. >> from waitresses to whales, from compton to venture capital to lafayette park, just yards from the white house. the antipark biden avalanche is building up speed and is taking all of us along forhe bot the ride from the bottom up to the top down this electio tn boils down to this reason triumphing over fear. if enough americans use their common sense and deliberaten and they don't allow their passions to be inflamed by demagogues, , joe biden will be soundly defeated in novemberll. >> investor and entrepreneur righd sacks joins me now. >> all right, david, you havee a few billionaire buddies. you're out there in silicon i valley. >> is it just you and a couple guys ois ir how big is this anti biden movement at the upper echelons? >> i think it's getting surprisingly big, jesse.ig you know, when we agreed to do j the fundraiser foresse d was president trump, the goal was just to raise $5 million. and we weren't even sure we could do that because, as you well know, silicon valley is pretty much a liberal sili in. now but we ended up raising $12 million. brawe had over 100 people ther. and it really was a total love fest. and then oved people out in theu the san francisco newspaper has been trying all week to get to gin up protesters and nothing really materialized at all. but hundreds of people came out to demonstrate in favor of presidentl bu? trump andeven they were cheering all along his motorcade, even in san francisco. so if that's the the enthusiasm gap in a liberal place like san francisco, what does that tell you about the rest of the country? >> it tells you a lot. and we've seen the it all acrose the country. tree in the bodegas in compton ,pretty much everywhere. >> it just shocks you. you said there was a lot of love for trump in the room. that's obviously, you know, people definitely there to donaty the. the >> is it the anti biden feeling or is it the pro-trump feeling? >> how would you define it? well, we hadd a lot of people in that room who had never donated to republicans before p. to trumr dona they were new donors or they were had always been democrat donors. r theyand yet they came out. and i think i attribute that toy the fact that trump is makingg inroads in silicon valley and then als silicono biden is y alienating people. he's really pursued a very hostilpeople.e e program towards innovation. he's been very hostile towardspt crypto. he's wanted to overregulate a.i.. innovation -t downg that all m&a. and so i think there's a lot i of people in technology who are askinge in, what good is this fr us? >> how does it help us t ofour y have another four years of president biden? and i think that trump haseaf et basically declared that he's the crypto president. he's in favor of innovation. prhe's willing to listen. >> i think he listened extremely well to all the people in that roo ynem. and fundamentally, he wants america to do well. and i think that peoplhe ae in h who get to meet the president get to know him, they see that he really cares. and i think they can be won over by him. and reallyng they bei think then over by him. >> you say that the biden administration is trying to kneecap i think kamala might be the eye, s are i don't know f she's doing it or someone else is doing it. the age factor because kamalaus is in play. if biden is reelected, he's going to hand i it over to kamala probably in the first or second year. how much of a factor is thate i >> well, the white house had this a.i. summit, and they did trump kamala out with a 100 page pluas regulatory plan.p >> and it was just absurd in terms of the level of detail that they were getting to in terms of regulating this thing. >> loo the sink, a.i. is brand . at some point, we're going to need to regulate it, but nolt right now. and i think the feeling from a lot of people in tech was that if this was anoplee government reacted to the internet back in the 1990s, it never would have materialized. itet back 1990s never would hao into the revolution that the internet was the, which was vers very good for american jobs and productivity. and america's leadershipoductivs world. so what you don't want to do ai in in thegreaovatio kil cradle. and i think there was not a great deal of confidencet dew that kamala harris was w the person who was going to be the air czarasoing, who's going. to lead us into this glorious future. >> so, yeah, i think that they are just going to trigger yeah, the biden administration is way o trigger happyregula on regulation. >> i mean, that's the bottom line. all right. thank you very much. monetiy talkon ands and it te t 12 million things to say at this fundraisery . that's a lot of talking. david sax, thank you so much. everybody go check out the podcast. >> there he is. thanks, jesse. johnny goes to the puerto rican day parade. salot of puert pueo ricans are saying they're voting for donald trump. i say yes.h? 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the other is possession. the first is, did hunter biden lie to employ or is thegon wilmington, delaware gun store on october 12th, 2018, when he checked no to being a drug user or being addictedd to drugs? did he lie on the form itself when he checked? e . and did he illegally possess a gun for 11 day ts in octoberur 2018 if he was a drug user. now the government, jesse, does noe got t have to prove that hur was on drugs at the exact moment he bought the gun o momer even really in the whole month of october 2018. jurors have to look kindh of at the entire time frame, talking about months and weeks beforame after leah wise, a lawyer for the government, told jurors not to focuse jurors on the presencn of famous people sitting in the fa meaning the first lady and others. he didn't want jurors to be distracted. hunterd others, the attorney, pu to the gun for which says, are you in unlawfuchl use oro addicted to illegal drugs? it doesn't say, have you ever beenillegal abbe lowell sayingi it's all about hunter biden's frame of minngs ald? so those are some of the things the jury has to weigh. it has been quite a triae somel in just a week. it's been fairly short getting all this done in the courtroom e today, hunter biden seemed cheery. he was walking around, giving people hugs and kisses,x thanking them for coming to support him. there was a momentthankithem foe hallway where you could see he, the first lady and his wifwaeeas bowed their heads with some men who seem to be a religiousod figure, maybe possibly praying before they went into court. he could facorg toe up to 25 years behind bars. jesse, tomorrow, we're likely behi ag to get a jury if weheres don't. clearly, there's something going on with this case. if it doesn'mething it comese:h back tomorrow. >> back to you. thanks. david carrier voank you?n. s legal editorcourth who was also in the courthouse today. ou, carry,carrie hunter looked happy to me, was smiling in goodot spirits. goodwhat does he have to be sou happy about? the aybe he's happy about the possibility that the showing of his family members is having an effect on the jury. it seems like doj is concerned about it becauseju.. a they opened their closing with a pretty stark statement. it was bold. y stark jeff. it was gutsy.ey wer and they were leaning in for a reason and they gesturede jut like this to jill biden and the family members. hi joe bthey're sitting right te several feet away. and they said this is not evidencend. and they went on to say, how do you know to the jurors,them they you may have watched them watching you. you may have seen their implied emotionat you,l reactions.ve you may have seen them on the news. but respectfully, none of thists matters. >> and then they presented what felt like, frankly, oveherf whelming evidence of hunter biden's drug useiden's d, both e during and after the time period in which he purchased that gun. time o i have the form right he, and it's as clear as day. >>heas are you an unlawful usera of or addicted to narcoticrcs? >> you do. why are they even still deliberating, carrie? >> well, we've had we've been sitting listenindeg to abbe lowell, hunter, biden's defense attorney, talk a lot about what doesde at are actually mean. a >> oh, man. right. we've had a lot of that. we've alsota had a lotion ab of discussion about when hunteor biden was texting the wife of his dead brother, who he is at that point in a relationship with, and saying he was smoking on ina car crack and, you know, these various drug dealers, mooky franky , seven elevens, his defense attorney says, well, he was justattorney was mad at holly, d saying stuff to get under our skin. >> we really don't know whern.y he said that. >> and if it was true and you w know what? he may have beeny bee getting p of coffee at 5 a.m. at 7-eleven. that's why he was there. oh, yeah. mooky makes the best decaf, s te man. >> that's where i go forstaf my coffee. mooky at 7-eleven. thank you so much, carrie. maybe we'll get some more may action tomorrow. we will se be you soon. n >> fox news alert. israeli forces pulled off a stunninglord rescue operationg in gaza, bringin rg four hostags back home. terry yanks is in israel with the story. >> yeah, jesse, we're learning more details about that. remarkablening hostage rescuet that took place on saturday morning. toce oisraeli special forces releasing new video captured by a helmet camera in centrala gaza as the imam and shin bet forces go into a building, g clear separate rooms and ultimately find three oftely the hostages that were being held by hamas. d the ofthey asked for their nai there, telling them to stay them in hebrew before takingng them out of the building through hamas exchanges of fir e into a waiting helicopter along the shores of gaza. ultimately back to a hospital bc here in tel aviv. the wall street journal reports the mission almost failed. the israelis were coming under rpt failedg and small arms fire, this operation was taking place and other local media is reporting it was weeks in the making. the israelisa orting using top t intelligence to try to locate as many hostageso as possibleim and bring them home jesse. y incredible. so what if it's biden who refuses, leave the white house? 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the fires were still from the summer of love in major cities across the country, boarded up to prepare for another round of democrat riots in case biden lost. but joe biden won. so the angry left stood down. but now that trump's beating biden in the polls, the angry left's predicting more violence. this time, they say trump will a dictator kill journalists, lock up and never leave office ? george conway is predicting some kind of purge. >> and yes, there will be deprogramming if this guy is elected president. >> we're going to have civil disorder like you've never seen 60, 70, 80 million people who will vote for the guy. and we still have to live with those people and we're going to have to deprogram them at some point. >> trump says his revenge will be success. liberals say that revenge will be civil disorder and deprogramming. >> who's really inciting violence? and aoc says if trump wins, she'll be sent to prison. >> it sounds, but like i wouldn't be surprised if this guy threw me in jail. >> really? he's out of his i mean, he did his whole first campaign around lock her up. like this is his motto. i take him at his word when he says that he's going to round up people. i take him at his word when. he threatens journalists. if donald trump wins. we are looking at the potential disillusion of democracy in the united states of america. >> aoc is much more valuable to the republican party out of prison, speaking freely and sharing her brilliant insights with the country. trust me, michael cohen says the trump administration will shatter, but in a different way. >> and just like putin, once you start to get too big for your own britches, people will start flying out of windows. they will start like navalny. they will end up in gulags. they will end up, as donald says all the time, send them to gitmo, send them to guantanamo bay. >> joe biden says he's running to save democracy. if trump wins, america is over . an orange revolution will usher in a racist dictatorship and the constitution will be replaced with the art of the deal. which raises the question if trump does win, why biden concede? a new op ed from the hill wonders what if it's biden who refuses to leave the white house? >> while speaking with some democratic friends, a reverse scenario was brought up, albeit mostly tongue in cheek. that scenario being that what if, quite ironically, it was biden who either postponed the election out of fear of maga unrest and rebellion or simply refused to leave the white house upon losing in november. >> makes sense. if trump's hitler and you lose to hitler, why would you willingly hitler? >> the keys to the white house. former united states assistant secretary of the treasury for public affairs. >> monica crowley. joins us now. monica, do you think if trump wins, biden is going to go gracefully? oh, well, i mean, it's an outstanding question, isn't it? and there are a lot people who suspect that he might find some pretext, not to leave the presidency or i shouldn't be more accurate, jesse, and say the people pulling his strings would like to stay in power. by the way, that aoc clip, i think aoc is just mad that donald trump won't dater. >> she's only so obsessed right now, like god is watching you criticize me. >> it means you're in love with me. yes, that means we're deeply in love with aoc, that we're so gentle and kind with her. >> so if someone is going to destroy the country and lose, why would you say, okay, my transition team will be in touch? and these are the passwords to the eisenhower executive building. >> right. you wouldn't. right. you wouldn't do that. so what do you think joe's going to do? >> is this is this a realistic scenario? >> well, you know, what's interesting about the left, jesse, is that, you know, a lot of people are talking about projection that they. that's usually an unconscious thing where it's really a confession of what you yourself is doing right, what your side is doing. you blame the other side or you accuse the other side of doing it. >> it's usually intel, but it's usually, you know, an unconscious thing here. i think it's part of a deliberate strategy on the part of the left. they're lying to everybody about donald trump. they're lying to everybody about the right. and conservatives when they themselves for decades have spent a lot of time and resources burning down the country, literally, whether it was the weather underground, antifa, black lives matter, and now the pro-hamas protesters are out there. remember, the issue is never the issue. the issue was always the revolution. >> so they're trying to turn consent revolution, right, to destabilize american society . so they're trying to turn the conversation around and flip the script and say, donald trump and maga is going to do this when clearly we've had now eight years of maga of donald trump on the national political scene and all he has done, jesse, is deliver a booming economy, an enforced border, peace, prosperity, world order. >> and they deliver civil unrest if he is reelected, that's what they believe them. >> the resistance colliding with people and causing civil unrest. because i'm not going to be deprogram and peacefully, especially by george conway who no offense. >> but the really important piece about this is, you know, knowing what we know, the deep state and the left are capable of doing, they're not just going to allow donald trump to march back in. they're not just going to allow america first to come back in. so i think a lot of people are braced for something that the deep state that the regime might have up their sleeve. >> they're capable of anything. we've seen that evidence very, very clearly. >> thank you, monica crowley. thank you. jesse watters. >> president trump campaigning in las vegas this weekend, offering his supporters a very interesting hypothetical. >> would you rather be electrocuted or eaten by a shark? >> the boat is sinking and water goes over the battery. the boat is sinking. do i stay on top of the boat and get electrocuted or do i jump over by the shark and not get electrocuted? because i will tell you, he didn't know the entry said, you know, nobody's ever asked me that question. i said, i think it's a good question. i think there's a lot of electric current coming through that water. but you know what i do? if there was a shark or you get electrocuted, i'll take electrocution every single time and i get near the shore. >> electric cars, electric sharks, electric boats that didn't come out of nowhere this weekend. two separate shark attacks sent a pair of teens to the hospital and left a woman armless. >> the attacks happened within miles of each other on separate beaches in walton county, florida, on friday, before 1:30 p.m., a woman swimming near a sandbar was bit and again lost her arm. an hour and a half later, another shark attacked two teenage girls. these people were hurt badly. life threatening, life altering. >> thankfully, no one died. but remember, a shark expert told us you're supposed to punch the shark in the face ,not swim away. >> and he's an expert land isn't any safer. a bull. did the lambeau leap at an oregon rodeo charging the crowd and flipping fans? 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i think we're definitely shifting balance because the en>> andd game is this the d that rocks the cradle rules the world and the most meaning you can find in life comes from relationships, comes from love a . and the most meaningful relationships are within families, including parents and their children and in marriage. so i think marriage is going gre to be made great again. it's being made great again because people are realizing,ler that this epidemic of loneliness is only solved epid and fidelityt the and then opening up your love in a marriage to having children, that beautiful risk of children. >> and so, you knok of children even joke that, well, if the liberals aren't having kids, the conservatives, well, number them. i but i think as liberals wake upi and see the value of children, wake actually makes them more conservative. >> yeah, that's not how it works. my parents were liberals i' had me, so you nevere know. >> well, is your special >> jessica special? even though my mom says i'm not the one. thanen thougk you very much. >> this country was founded on creating a government eourage to encourage the pursuit of happiness. happiness involves pursuit o wo happiness involves family, happiness it involves tranquility where you're not worried about the earth ending in ten years. everything that they've structured goeendingn 10s againe everything the founders prescribed. why woulfounders prescrid they ? >> yes. yeah, well, it's the propaganda, right? >>the propaganda of the climate crises people. and i would say marxis msaying and else. why the saying that children actually having childrenor happe is selfish, that the family project is selfish, that you should just care about the state or you should care about the environment to the degree that you are, race yourselfronmen. footp you know, the carbon footprint is the biggest problem in the world that we're facing. that'seggest pr the all a lie.sl the reality is we're actually facing demographic declinrealite in all of the wesw meaning we're not even replacing ourselves re becauseionse no people aren't having enough children. so we've gone the far extreme and in the pursuit of what? right. i mean, what's the whole point of government? like you said, what's the whole poins e poinhet of the environm? it's for the future of humanity, for children. and so those that are having the children, those that are raising the families, the future actually will belong to those people. and i think more people be are waking up to that because so many people are so miserable right now. >> yes. se arand we can't have a countn of unhappy women. >> it wouldn't be good for womenohaveof an and it definitey wouldn't be good for my wife. happy life. jesse, you got it. love that. yeah. then the data is so interesting inteus: you go[ laughte it's al% of trump voters say that they of d about. they they prioritize family in society. rioritizand it's 19% of biden vt today are saying that family matters and children matter for the future. so even that just showdren matte politically the divide. >> there really is a stark divide by the. thank you so muc. a star h. >> thanks for having me. >> the puerto rican day parade marched in manhattan yesterdayyr . so johnny was there, obviously, to ask about our so john big pur rican president, joe biden, 40 five, with with me. >> let's go over here wheret ist i say, why, dwayne, what ihest the best thing about being puerto ricaning puer? 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this country is open for everyone, but doing the rightdu way. >> this country doesn't even look like america no more. look like venezuele >> [ >> you have to take care of your how to be for anything that anybody thinks video but he's saying is a bunch of garbage a lot of latinos say they're voting for donald trump. >> who are you? i am not the guy trump. trump. oh, that's i say yes, my friends are going to kick my when i get back home. >> did i not? clearly believ back hoy explaine of trust to you, greg? >> donald trump did a great job in office. >> trump did way more than biden did. but i like did trump.becaus >> he speaks the truth that we pottery could speak the truth. maybe it's time for a feeline gr being offered. >> i'm number one in the polls with hispanics and everyone's like, surprised? >> i'm not surprisedut wit. a ca why don't they get positive? jesse watter s? >> they pass. i guess you ought to get back to my take. my destiny. what? i love you. mo, everybody, uh, more from our movement next. >> it only takes a second for an everyday item to become an everyday item to become dangerou tide pods. child guard pack helps keep your laundry packs intichiu safe place and your child safer to clothes. twist until it clicks. >> tide pods, child guard, packaging start your day with nature. meet the number one pharmacist recommended vitamin and supplement brand some people would rather crash than slow down. i built this club out of nothing. is this my family? 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apple is taking its shot at redefining artificial intelligence into apple intelligence. the company unveiled a series of ai related announcements at its worldwide developers concerts on monday. chief among them, a partnership with the artificial intelligence juggernaut openai. that will allow apple to integrate start up�*s cutting edge chat bot chatgpt into its devices including a superpowered siri. the voice assistant will be available with chatgpt features for free later this year. other new additions include ai generated images and emojis and help with proofreading in tone adjustment. these announcement are the big stand apple integrating ai features that have captured viewers attention and spending the big bucks. rewarding terms that are not onlyjumped up but rewarding the ai bandwagon like nvidia that makes the chips that powers the ai revolution. overtaking apple itself to become the second most valuable company in the world by market value position. microsoft which has its own long—standing partnership with openai remains the most valuable. apple's entrance into the artificial intelligence space could be viewed as late, when compared to rivals like microsoft and google. but experts say this could herald in a new frontier for the technology. i have been speaking tojulie ask, an independent technology analyst. a few things stood out from the conference for me. first, with the announcement from apple that they are going to imbed generative ai into so many of their device applications and experiences offered to consumers, they remind us with most of the valley with large language value is still at the application layer. they also remind us that generative ai isjust one portion of the experience. consumers do not go out and buy generative ai, they buy or invest in experiences which generative ai can make better. the third thing they remind us with this entry to the market is having access and owning a relationship with the consumers is essential for any kind of success and today apple has over two billion devices installed. where do you see the company now in the ai race, still playing catch—up? i would say yes and no. i do not believe apple is late to the ai race, it is later than expected to incorporate ai into its experience but apple has advantages other companies do not. the first is when it comes to consumer personal contacts is so important and apple may have more context than any other entity. at the first iphone launch they had 16 native apps now it has at least 30 including my health information, my banking, my fitness, my e—mail, maps, my shopping, all the things that i do. so when we think about the usefulness of generative ai at a personal level, it is one thing to ask the internet, what is the best pizza to eat, it's a different thing to ask someone who knows me well. so i would say that is one of the first points. going further down the list, it certainly reminds us of privacy matters and apple is good at that. consumers do not buy technology, they invest in utilities and entertainment. consumers also would use a lot of interfaces, this is not about chatgpt or a verbal interface with an application, generative ai will do things like create and analyse so apple is really showcasing the broad set of use cases in the way that generative ai can upgrade experiences. tesla ceo elon musk has reacted to apple's announcements. he says apple devices will be banned from his companies if it integrates openai at an operating system level. in a post on his social media platform x, he said allowing the devices would be an "unacceptable security violation". mr musk was one of the founders of openai in 2015. but he has since sued the company for allegedly deviating from its non—profit mission. turning to china, that makes most of the world's electric cars and ev batteries. a flagging economy has driven some chinese carmakers to expand overseas. but with cheaper chinese evs flooding the global market, the us has imposed tariffs on the vehicles. and the european union is widely expected to follow suit. hans greimel from automotive news gave us a sense of what's at stake. the us as you have just mentioned has a 100% tariff on exports from china and the eu is about to follow suit, although the import tariff rate is not expected to be as high. it is probably going to be around io%—25%. that will probably be more than enough to offset the, or to out cost the cost of exporting from china to the eu in terms of logistics and shipping. so that basically would reconfigure the cost equation that chinese auto—makers face. given the influx of cheaper alternatives to chinese evs something widely reported and talked about, what can china do in the current scenario? probably one immediate impact you will see is a shift perhaps from exporting from china to the eu, instead they will now consider building more factories in the eu, to build locally and that would be one way that the chinese will probably try to get around the idea of doing that. you see this already happening with volvo. volvo was exporting some vehicles from china back to the eu. now they are thinking about re—shoring, if you will, putting some of the factory capacity back in europe to feed the local market. over in the us, a senate panel is expanding a probe into bmw over its use of components from a banned chinese supplier. senator ron wyden found last month that the german carmaker imported at least 8000 mini coopers into the united states, which contained parts from the chinese supplier. he is now inquiring whether the parts were found in any other bmw products. bmw did not immediately respond to a request for comment. intel has paused plans to construct a 25 billion dollar factory in israel, according to calcalist, an israeli financial news website. responding to the report, intel told the bbc that the industry often needs to adapt to changing timelines. the firm said its decisions are based on "business conditions, market dynamics and responsible capital management". it had received a grant for the factory from the israeli government in december amid the war in gaza. lack of affordable housing is a big issue across much of the world and with an election imminent in the uk, the subject has never been more important. the uk has the highest housing costs in the english—speaking world. on average more than a quarter of disposable income is spent on housing. the bbc�*s economics editor faisal islam explores issues facing the housing sector. as the cost of living squeeze from energy and food costs starts to settle, there is no such luck with housing. mortgage and rental costs are still rising — the latter by record amounts. this is a long—term issue, basic supply and demand. as you can see at this new housing development in warwickshire. many of these new homes are going forjust over £300,000. that's bang on the average house price in this country. and we can see how that's changed over the past three decades or so — no surprise to see that line going up and up. what has changed has been the relationship with affordability. back in the late �*90s, five years�* worth of annual average income was more than the average house price. now, it's crossed over, the gap is massive and looks very difficult to bridge. it's all about house—building. successive governments over years, over decades, have made big promises on house—building, often not met. this is what's happened for england, over the past ten years, broken down per three—month quarter. a similar pattern across the united kingdom. the financial crisis, the pandemic, rising interest rates and inflation all can be blamed, but mass house—building has only historically been done when government funds it, and the parties seem to agree there isn't the money. in the �*60s, local authorities were building a lot of social housing, and that has died down in the �*90s, and without this push, we can never get enough new builds. and then there's planning. yes, so, planning permission has therefore been refused. up and down the country, in lengthy councillors�* meetings just like these, now recorded on council websites... applause. ..there are the familiar sight and sound of new homes not being built, planning permission refused repeatedly. the two main parties do differ here. labour says it's willing to build on specific areas of the green belt that are not so green they call the grey belt. ultimately, both for buying and renting, supply not responding to demand means higher housing costs, the most enduring aspect of the cost of living crisis. before we go, more news on openai. it has appointed its first chief financial officer. sarah friar was formerly the ceo of social media firm nextdoor. the company also named a new chief product officer on monday. and that's it for this edition of business today. thanks for watching. hello and welcome to sportsday with me marc edwards. bringing you the action from day four of the european athletics in rome. teams from across europe begin to arrive in germany ahead of euro 202a. south africa squeeze past bangladesh in four runs in a final over thriller in the t20 world cup. hello and welcome to sportsday. with less than seven weeks to go until the olympics, some contenders have been in action ahead of the global extravaganza in paris. our reporter natalie pirks rounds up the stories from the italian capital. another busy night night in rome with yet another gold for host italy to keep them on top of the medal table. on a british point of view, there were two medals, a silverfor charlie dobson in the men's a00m and a bronze for molly caudery in the women's pole vault finals. for charlie, another personal best in what is a fantastic season so far for him. he said he was over the moon and could not be happier to take silver in what was his first individual major 400 metre final. the race was won by belgium alexander doom with a new championship record.

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what is good to talk about in politics. what is good for politics and not, here's an interesting one, donald trump now wondering aloud about taylor swift is apparently coming from an excerpt from a forthcoming book about his work with with the producer of the apprentice. a conversation that took place as in november 2023, trump saying this about taylor swift. >> i think she's a liberal. >> she probably doesn't like trump, but she is liberal or is that just an act he asks, she she's legitimately liberal. it's not an act, it surprises me that a country star can be, can be successful, being liberal trump said before the author noted that's with crossover to pop music years ago, the crossover, she, she can, she can do whatever she wants. i would say is it good for politics to take on taylor swift i mean, this is this just goes into that bucket of weird and strange that we are seeing pop up almost every single day in this campaign. >> kate. but again, i think the more than donald trump focuses and n is obsessed with somebody like taylor swift, the better it is for democrats because i think we do know that she's liberal. we do know that she probably will not vote for donald trump and she may even come out in and endorsed joe biden and kamala harris and the democrats before the november election, which i think would be the republicans and donald trump's biggest nightmare. and that's probably why he's injecting this question mark into this election for whatever reason, he might think helps him. but again, this just goes into the weirdness of what this campaign is. and it gives us the opportunity to talk about the weirdness of donald trump. and again, that does nothing to take away from his base but we know that his base will probably never leave him no matter what. but it does go into that category of moderates and common sense republicans that are going to think, wow, this man to just there's something not right up there this man is not fit for office the biggest night for your nightmare for republicans and donald trump taylor swift, you heard it here. it's good to see you guys. thank you so much the next hours in a new central starts now a verdict could come this morning very shortly. >> the jury and the hunter biden's gun trial resumes deliberations. the murder rate in the us could be headed to its largest annual decline ever big drops in crime across the board. what the new data tells us, and the bombshells secret supreme court tapes chief justice john roberts samuel alito samuel alito's wife, the one with the flag's. she even talks about flags sara is out today. i'm john berman with kate bolduan in this this cnn new set standing by for another historic verdict, very soon to 12 men and women weighing hunter biden's fate will resume deliberations after meeting for just over an hour? >> yes. but i and any minute we could see the president's son for the first time. >> today walking into the courthouse that is where he's expected to have to wait or nearby as the jurors decide whether to convict get him on three felony charges related to a 2018 gun purchase. >> hunter biden faces up to 25 years in prison if he is convicted on all three counts, it is however unlikely. we're told that he would serve that kind of jail time still standing by to standby to here exactly what this jury decides. cnn's marshall cohen outside the court four just once again, how is jury deliberations going to look this morning okay. >> good morning. it's 8:00 now. and the jury is expected back in one hour, 9:00 a.m. they got one hour of deliberations in the books yesterday before breaking through the night. and they will resume this morning. now, the judge who has been overseeing this case she doesn't feel the need to bring the jurors into the actual courtroom at nine and wish them a good morning. they can go straight to the jury box and once they are all here here today, they can resume those deliberations on the three felony charges that hunter biden is facing for allegedly purchasing and possessing a gun while addicted to it is illegal drugs. now, i should note that, yes, there are three top line charges here, but underneath each one of those counts are a series of elements of each crime that the jurors need to deliberate and degree on unanimously for each element of each crime that's in this indictment. look, you mentioned it he is convicted on all three charges he could face prison time up to 25 years. that seems highly unlikely though, given the fact that he is a first-time offender. but as we sit here, for and wait for the verdict, the fate of the president's son is in the hands of those 12 jurors from delaware six men and six women. there'll be back in about one hour to finish up marshall, we've seen the first lady going into court. we know that a hunter biden's other members of hunter biden's family have also been in the courtroom as any family does. and can to show their support for him. but that became part of the prosecutor's closing argument. why? >> yeah. it is, of course, common for defendants to have the support of their family it's pretty rare for those family members to have their own secret service agents following their every move. but they really beefed up the presence yesterday for the closing arguments. obviously, there was the first lady, jill biden president biden's sister, valerie, was their president biden's brother, james hunters, younger sister, ashley, they were all there in the pews. and the prosecutors noticed one of the very first things okay that the special counsel, prosecutor leo wise, said in his closing arguments to the jury, was that they may recognize some faces in the gallery from the news. they america may recognize some of those vips from the community here in wilmington. but respectfully, none of that matters. that's what he's said. none of that matters. he wants them to focus on the evidence, which in the view of the prosecution is overwhelming. >> kate, jury begins liberation very soon. marcia, thank you. john wright with us now cnn senior data reporter, harry and harry were talking about the hunter biden trial what does the data show about what people think about this trial? >> well, in terms of how hunter biden has been treated. >> yeah. you know, there's this real thing. what hunter biden even be on trial if he wasn't the president's son, there are a lot of folks who are on hunter biden signed are and joe biden cited say they wouldn't even be brought. that's not necessarily the case. all right. according to the public legal systems treatment of hunter bye. now, this was after the criminal indictments of them, but before this most recent trial, look at is 66% set of americans say that the legal system, treatment of hunter biden has been fair. in fact according to the polling, if anything, they think it's been not harsh enough on him. just 27% of americans think that the legal system has been unfair. so the fact is, most americans have no problem with hunter biden being on trial. his favorite bility ratings are quite low and it's something thank when you look at the polling, why the white house i think is genuinely worried because he's definitely in their minds potentially a liability for me, at least outside of joe biden and think that, well, the important thing to remember is that it's hunter biden? correct. who is on trial here, not president joe biden, but there is some data in terms of what the public thinks about the president in how he views are is i guess connected to his son. yeah. you know, sort of my leading question here. all right. hunter biden's legal troubles and joe biden, hunter hunters troubles are related to joe 46% related to juror, correct? i'm related to job. thank you. 46% say that is believable that they were unrelated to joe. that is the plurality believe it is unrelated to joe biden, just 37% of americans believe that is not believe well, that's a good number for joe biden. how about this joe biden is a good dad by supporting his son, the clear majority, 54% say that that is believable, and this is, i think the polling that joe biden sort of two, is listening to saying, you know, what first off, i don't necessarily care about the public, but secondly, i think the public thinks i'd be a pretty good dad by supporting his son. yeah, he may not be looking at the polling all at all when it comes to his public statements about this trial or his son, he may just being a dead dead. >> what is the potential impact on the left? yeah. a very probably not much at all because the clear majority of folks believed that hunter biden's illegal troubles. >> they have no impact on their vote. yes, there's this 23% who say they're less likely to vote for joe biden. but you know who that is, 23% are there republicans who weren't going to vote for joe biden anyway? >> or 4%. >> therefore, who say it's more likely to vote for joe biden, but you can get for free percent of americans to basically say hard to see the logic there. all right, harriet and great to see you much some police in china have now arrested a man. they say stabbed for americans in broad daylight video appears to show the victims on the ground clearly bloodied and chinese tourist was also interviewed that video though not seen on social media in china as it was swiftly censored after being published. the four americans injured are instructors from cornell college in cornell college in iowa, who were in northeast china as part of an exchange program, officials say they are all in stable condition, but it's unclear what motivated this attack seen as marc stewart is in the city where this attack happened, joining us now, what are you learning about this arrest mark ross has been made. >> kate police confirmed it just a short time ago. this is a 55-year-old mad and according greene to police, he said he was walking when he bumped into this group of four americans. these for educators. and then somehow this stabbing took place that injured all four of them, as well as a chinese tourists who stepped into you're being. we just got back from the actual stabbing side. it's about 15 hike from where we are now and when we arrived, there was basically no evidence that anything ever happened. look like some of the blood on the ground had been washed away a contrast to what we saw yesterday when we sell these people on the ground, bloody, clearly, a need of help. i should point out that this park is very similar to a park you would see in any suburb in the united states. we've been here for just a few hours. there are hiking trails. there is a train, there is a temple, there is no reason, but it's a feel safe here. so obviously, a lot part of holes in the story. the blanks needs to be filled in. let's also look at the backdrop in china right now, there is certainly arise in nationalism something that i hear in conversations with people that i have here in china. it's also apparent on social media, yet at the same time, we have chinese president xi jinping very anxious to welcome american students here as part of study abroad programs. in fact, when he was in the united states last fall, he mentioned bringing as many as 50,000 americans and just last week even made a personal reach out to an institution in the united states to have this kind of exchange. so it will be interesting to see if this incident has any kind of damper on things and finally, kate, you alluded to this at the beginning. no one here knew about what happened. for a good 48 hours as soon as this happened, social media posts were scrubbed. it wasn't until we heard from officials and iowa that this came to surface. in fact, just a few minutes ago, there were a group of people gathered around, someone cell phone trying to get the latest information that is the environment, the surveillance state ms fear often that we see here in china, kate marc stewart. >> thank you so much for your legs reporting work. john 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focused on getting more humanitarian aid into gaza. >> earlier he was in israel where he met with prime minister benjamin netanyahu, blinken, telling reporters that there is a consensus among netanyahu and other leaders to move forward on a proposed ceasefire deal that was just approved by the un security council. cnn's oren liebermann is in tel aviv. how much consensus really is there that where do things stand okay. >> this appears to be more positive position than we've seen in quite some time now, when it comes to the efforts to reach a ceasefire and a hostage release between israel and hamas. secretary if they'd anthony blinken making a whirlwind trip through the region, first, he was in egypt at the start of the week than a series of meetings with israeli leaders, the prime minister, the defense minister, the opposition leader the member of the war cabinet, who just resigned. and now he's in jordan and then we'll be going to cut her. so a lot of the key players needed to get not only the israelis on board and the biden administration is clearly confident that they have the israelis agreeing to the ceasefire proposal. but now to try to push hamas to agree to the ceasefire proposal that's on the table. there have been some positive noises coming from hamas, both in reaction to the un security council resolution calling for a permanent ceasefire, end to the proposal on the table. the question of course, is in the details and that remains to be seen because the process has fallen apart repeatedly on the details in the past, sill, blinken knows who he has to convince here and that's the head of hamas's military in gaza, the most powerful person in the organization, right now, yahya sinwar, he was a blinken said a short time ago there are those who have influenced, but influences one thing actually getting a decision made is the another thing i don't think anyone other than the hamas leadership in gaza actually are the ones who can make make decisions that's what we're waiting now, the wall street journal was able to view messages written by yahya sinwar over the course of the negotiations and from the start of the war, and they give an interesting insight into his mindset and his person spective in one of these messages, the wall street journal viewed which cnn cannot verify sinwar says, we have the israelis, right where we want them. >> sinwar sit in a recent message two hamas officials i think the broker an agreement with qatari and egyptian officials on the big picture perspective on how many pills to palestinians have been killed here it is clear from these alleged messages that sinwar views this as something almost necessary to push forward the palestinian national cause. here's another quote from the wall street journal. in one message to hamas leaders in doha, sinwar cited civilian losses in national liberation conflicts in places such as algeria, where hundreds of thousands of people died fighting for independence from france, saying these are necessary sacrifices. it's that mindset that blinken is trying to work towards agreeing to a ceasefire here. it's a key question. again, kate, we appear to be closer than we've been in quite some time now. and yet doesn't mean the process is over or complete at all. >> absolutely great reporting as always. thank you so much. john wright joining us now is aveyron my year the uncle of former hostage almog my ear, who was rescued over the weekend, sir. >> thank you so much for being with us while we have you. just give us an update that was elmo doing this morning at a mortgage generally. okay and these drawing to digest what happened with him in the last eight months. and specifically in the last three days you said when he was first released, what he wanted most was a hug and ayesha warmer. >> how many hugs and chihuahuas has he had now over the last four days? >> lots of hogs, one shawwa bma but later that day, that's a good ratio. >> i'll take that ratio any day. what have you learned? what has he told you about his captivity we haven't had the opportunity to talk quietly together. but generally, in the last six months is spent time with two other hostages in the same place. >> within re kozlov and shlomi ziv and at that time, they were like a team. they are very good friends. they have their own nicknames. they have their own terminology there were lots of time together and they really, really love one each other i heard no daylight kept in the dark for months. >> what can you tell us about that? >> i didn't understand. i question, please. >> one of the things i heard you say is that he was kept inside with no daylight more or less in the dark for four months yes. >> it's right there in the last six months, this is what i know. i don't know what happened in the first two months but in the last six months, the evan been allowed to leave the apartment. so they saw sound from the windows, but not the gimmick go out what gave him hope while he was in captivity, while he was being held prisoner, hostage what i can tell you is that they were together and the empowered one each other all the time. and its friends where where is back? and e were their back and they supported one each other i can tell you that in the 11th of may is so television in al jazeera? and he saw the forum, the family four room in tel aviv rally and he saw a picture of the game in that rally so we understood that is not forgotten and people are thinking about him. but more than that, it didn't know too much your nephew has now been rescued, but there are many others who are still being held hostage. >> what do you want to see from the israeli government? what do you want benjamin netanyahu to do? >> in our personal family the circle is closed and the log is here. and we are very happy. >> but there are still 120 families who is looking for their deer's and what we want newtoni all to do is to bring them by an agreement because we understand that operations like maga have been rescued, won't bring one other than 20 others so we want to press all the governments for the hamas and on the israeli government to sign this deal and to take out all the other hostages. back home. i have to tell you the joy of the people of israel when they saw four oxygens came back, it was incredible. the joy is enormous and if, if the people of israel will see wondering people of a 120 other hostages that will come back home. it will be a tikkun, will be fixing israel will do anything to do everything. right? it will be lots of energy for us if they're just come back around my air, please, to your nephew, were all mog more hogs and many many more sju armas. thank you so much. and we are so happy for you and your family. appreciate you being with us secret recordings of supreme court justices, even a secret recording of justice alito's wife, what happened and what alito's wife is? >> now saying about flying more flags at her home and there are signs of some growing 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a liberal activist and filmmaker presented herself as a religious conservative and secretly recorded it secretly recorded the justice and his wife at a supreme court historical society dinner the recording comes in the wake of the controversial flags being flown at alito's properties. and this is what martha alito had to say about that i want sacred garden cheeses because i had to look cross the lagoon at the pride flag for the next month. exactly. >> who's like, oh, please don't put up a flag. i can i won't do it because i'm deferring to you. but when you are free of this nonsense i'm putting it up and i'm going to send them message every day now, cnn has not obtained the full form of these recordings. >> we have also reached out to the supreme court for comment. cnn's senior supreme court analyst, joan biskupic, is with us martha alito talking about flags on tape yes. >> john, good to see you. and martha ends common certainly were provocative given the controversy over the flags that had flown at the alito home that appeared connected to the january 6, rioters and the stop the steal movement. but i want to focus on justice. alito and what he said at this event and also how much it echoes were justice alito has been on religion just as a leader who has acted as if religion is under siege, he's, he's said that in public comments before. he said that in his written opinions and john, let's take a listen now to what justice alito said this woman as she was surreptitiously recording him at the event last week one side or the other there can be a way of workout, way of living together, please it's different because there are differences. >> one fundamental things is it really can't. it's not like you're going to see what the difference yeah, john. so again, just a little context on justice alito. remember he was the one who authored the dobbs ruling two years ago that reversed all constitutional rights to abortion. he has been very outspoken. against, especially any kind of protection for lgbtq rights. he's been against gay marriage. he has been very strong on issues that have a lot of, as i said religious themes so that's the context here. and then after after he wrote the dobbs opinion, he even said in a speech at rome that religious liberty is under attack from people everywhere and especially people in power, which is somewhat ironic since he is in power, but he he did not respond to any of our requests for comment last night, but the supreme court historical society did. and let me just read what jim duff, who is head of the historical society, said. we condemn the surreptitious recording of justice's at the event, which is inconsistent with the entire spirit of the evening attendees are advised that discussion of current cases, cases decided by current sitting justices, or a justices jurisprudence is strictly prohibited and may result in forfeiture of membership in the society. but for us, john, for those of us who live in america under the rulings of the supreme court. what's important here is do know that this month the justices are about to issue rulings and so many important opinions. and we'll need to we want to see how justice alito's attitudes emerge in those rulings that will now set the law of the land. john. >> and interesting to hear his voice and really how different his voice was than that of chief justice john roberts, who was also recorded. what he reported the had to say also fascinating job is keep a great to see this morning. thank you very much thank the historic drop in crime across the board. the brand new statistics just out and new hope in the fight against all timers, disease as the fda is poised to approve a new drug the most anticipated moment of this election, and the stakes couldn't be higher the president and the former president, one stage two, very different visions for america's future that cnn presidential debate thursday, june 27, nine live on cnn. >> and streaming on max perfect de, for 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this trend that we're seeing now, very promising when we talk about violent crime, when we talk about murders, get you straight to the numbers here. you can see this is based on new preliminary data from the fbi they found in the first three three months of this year, murders are down 26% reported rapes decreased by nearly 26% aggravated assault is down. robberies or down, you look at property crimes, the same trend their burgers have dropped nearly 17%. motor vehicle thefts have decreased about 17%. so across the board and regions across the united how did it states they're seeing these drops based on this initial data i particularly want it focused in on murders. now, there's a caveat, obviously, this prelim preliminary, the year isn't up yet, but murder right now is down by 80% in places like boston, over 40% in cities like new orleans seattle, baltimore, and fill it dell fea, murder spiked about 30% during the pandemic, but then started to fall. i've been talking with crime data analysts who say that if these numbers now hold, we could see a potential historic drop here throughout the rest of this year. so as we look at this trend some, obviously some promising data when you look at prime across the country, john, look this is the type of data that i imagine everyone, all of the evidence that we have so far is showing a basically a double decline relative to what it was last year at this point, last year, it was down about ten or 11%. >> now we're talking 19 or 20%. it's plausible that this will be by far the largest one-year decline in american history. >> so obviously one of the analysts, we were speaking with, and as you were saying they're john, i mean, we often focused on a lot of different facts and figures in life. nothing more personal than when we're talking about crime, whether it's crime that's impacting us, whether it's crime that is impacting members of our community. of course, we are hearing from people like the attorney general who are now speaking out touting these numbers the attorney general saying yesterday in a statement that this continued historic decline in homicides does not represent abstract statistics. it represents people whose lives were saved, people who are still here to see their children grow up to work toward fulfilling their dreams and to contribute to their communities unities. we also heard the president come out with similar statements. of course, this is a topic that can always be improved when we talk about crime. and so this is not certainly not something to celebrate when there was work to be done, but when you look at that trend, particularly after the pandemic, when we saw so much violence is certainly moving in the right direction. and this is the type of trend that we've all been waiting for, you good to hear, good to see you. josh campbell. thank you very much for that democratic senator bob menendez will soon be returning to court where he is facing federal bribery charges. >> the prosecution's star witness will also then be back on the stand, which is new jersey businessman jose uribe. he delivered testimony yesterday about the senator, seen as jason carroll, following all of this, he's outside of the court. what's going to happen today? jason well, i think we're expected to hear more of what we heard yesterday, except the only difference is this time the defense gets its chance to question jose uribe yesterday. >> he provided a lot of detailed information about conversations he said he had with senator menendez directly related to bribery. now remember you rebate as someone who wanted these criminal investigations in new jersey to go away? because they could have implicated people who he was very close to. he knew nadine menendez, he knew she needed a brand new car. and so he says he gave her $15,000 to buy a brand new mercedes in exchange for the senator's influence. he talked about a dinner, for example, august 2019 where he says, i get to ask him, him, meaning senator menendez, for the first time? explain what is worrying me so much. i asked him if there's anything in his power that he can do to stop these investigations. he says menendez answered he would look into it then september of 2019 he says he was at nadine menendez home. he says he wrote down the names of the people in question relate get to that investigation. he says he put it on a piece of paper, senator menendez folded it up and put it in his pocket. then october 29, 2019, he says he got a call all from senator menendez, and basically he told jurors that he felt as though that the situation had been settled and he choked up when he's talked about this, when he testified because he felt like it was all over finally, then at a dinner, kate and 2020, he says menendez told him, i saved your twice not one but twice now senator menendez, for his part, has pleaded not guilty. he says there were no ghraieb that took place here. he says he was simply acting on behalf of his concern so his attorneys get a chance to cross-examine jose uribe later this morning good to see you, jason. >> thank you so much john alright. >> new evidence that independent presidential candidate robert f. kennedy jr. is enjoying significant support in one crucial state cnn's even makin reports from wisconsin on a 17 acre tree farm in sackville, wisconsin, dells stand braunton rides around the land with hope. the 2024 election will bring monumental change, shreve in 2020, i voted for trump, but now he says, the former president sounds like a broken record. >> it's all about the election was rigged and the court system is re this year, the wedding venue owner who plans to eventually transform his property into a wellness retreat is all in for independent presidential candidate robert f. kennedy jr. bobby's the first candidate who i've actually felt good about. >> i think a lot of people are very frustrated with voting for the lesser of two evils. is that how you view the major party candidates? yeah, absolutely a self-described conservative, independent stan braunton shares kennedy's vaccine skepticism and learned of him through kennedy's work with the anti-vaccine group, children's health defense the 62-year-old typically votes for republicans, but he's attracted to kennedy's anti-establishment message, ending the form was the financial corrupt sure within our government agencies in the fact that we can't trust our government agencies to do their jobs because they've been hijacked by corporate interests. you don't think are government agencies can be trusted know why? because they're bought and paid for. >> i found a video rfk hey, junior on youtube, recent college grad katie zimmerman voted for president joe biden in 2020. but now she spends her saturday mornings tabling at farmers markets like this one in wahba tomasa for the kennedy campaign he's coming to all voters and saying like, if you vote for me, like you'll be able to afford buy a house. >> first is i haven't necessarily heard if biden say things like that, that appeal to me. >> if ultimately trump gets reelected how would you feel about that? i would not feel really great about that if he was elected into office, but i i wouldn't necessarily feel any guilt because i was able to have a choice and who i wanted to vote for dog denticola is a long democrat who never thought he would find himself lobbying trump's supporters. to switched to kennedy. >> what do you think this has go to 24. >> go watch when he's going to do you haven't even given him a chance, because he doesn't ever what chance anyway, is it hard to convince trump's supporters to vote for kennedy? >> yeah, i actually just appreciate that he was willing to stop and talk to me, fed up with political polarization, denticola thinks kennedy can bring americans together and isn't worried about him taking votes from biden or trump i person like bobby kennedy, who is really a message of unity, a message for all people i think that's why he's going to actually pull a lot of voters in both sides back on deal's farm. i shared desire for unity to address a deeply divided country. >> if we don't make some changes and find somebody who has played up solutions and somebody who we can trust who wants to bring us together we're going to be in a world of hurt and john kennedy's coalition of voters. >> they really span the political spectrum. polling data indicates the largest contingent could actually be those who didn't support either candidate in 2020. so he's bringing new voters into the fold. a lot of his support also comes from so-called double-haters. those holding an unfavorable view of both biden and trump, john, or even again, for us, fresh back from a trip to wisconsin, eva great to see you. thank you. >> so female helps people in communities pick up the pieces after disaster strikes. but now the federal agency is facing a disaster of its own. the new warning that theme is disaster relief fund could run out 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full approval from the agency, but it has a lot of people excited. >> our chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta is year. what are we talking about here? sanjay? >> good morning, john yeah, potentially a big deal here there are no drugs to cure or to prevent alzheimer. so what we're talking about here are medications that can slow the progression of symptoms once they start. and if this gets approved this would now be the second drug that could do that sort of thing. as you know, john, the fda advisory committee that's an independent committee. they make their recommendations. they recommended this be approved. the fda usually follows her guidance, not always, but this is certainly a good sign and that approval could come by the end of the year so for this particular study, they looked at 1,700 people, just over 1,700 people between the ages of 6085 and these were people who had mild cognitive impairment. so this was early part of their diagnosis, early part of their disease and they gave them this drug and what they found was that over time, over 76 weeks that about a 29% reduction in cognitive decline. >> so they got worse, more slowly. >> it's not that they reverse the disease. it's not that they stalled the disease. they got worse more slowly, about 29%. so that is the big number in terms of benefit. the committee was paying attention to. on the flip side of that, let me tell you quickly, john, is the risks there are risks of these drugs specifically something known as aria, which stands for amyloid related imaging abnormality. you don't need to remember that, but basically it's these bleeds that can occur in the brain in response to the drug and what they found was about 37% of the people who are getting the medication compared to placebo, 14% did have evidence of these, these changes in the brain related to the amyloid. three people did die as well in that trial. so that was something that committee looked at very, very closely and still determined that the benefits outweigh the risks. john sanjay two very important questions. number one, how do you say the drugs named? because i can't make it out. i can't make sense of that in number two, how exactly does this one work yeah so the nonna mab and mab, which you hear at the end of a lot of these drugs, stands for monoclonal antibody. >> the other drug that i was talking about, lecanemab also a monoclonal antibody and a lot of people know monoclonal antibodies. they learned about them during the pandemic. but you're essentially giving the antibodies as part of the drug let me show you this quick animation of how it works. you know, amyloid is this protein plaque that builds up in the brain. when you give these medications, it can basically disrupt some of the building blocks of those plaques not allowing them to form as well or clearing them after they've already formed so that's that's basically how these monoclonal antibody drugs work. and again, this might be the second one. what i tell you one interesting thing about this, this trial the ilo liliya suggesting that they follow the amount of amyloid that people have in their brain. and if the amyloid clears they suggest that maybe just stopping the drug it's a monthly infusion. but they say if the amyloid has gone no need to continue taking the drug when you typically think of the drugs, you think of them as lifelong for the rest of your life. maybe not the case here we'll see how the fda weighs in on that the nonna map sounds like sesame street phenomena to me, which is how i'll remember from now on how many people are we talking about that this could benefit hard to remember yeah. >> so you got about in the country, got about 6 million people who have alzheimer disease carry the diagnosis, but about 1 million who fall into that early stage category. again, keep in mind someone goes in there now developing early symptoms, sometimes hard to diagnose but potentially 1 million people taking the medication, right now. that is the population. will see in the future if some of these medications get approved for people who are further along in their diagnosis while got moderate or severe now so many people take any any promising news when it comes to all timers. >> they wanted, they take it so seriously, dr. sanjay gupta, thanks so much for being with us. >> appreciate it. >> and this does then the official portrait of king charles has now been vandalized and there's video of it seen as max foster spring. i'm in from london. max, what has happened? what is this? >> well, is a pressure group and they are against cruelty on farms so this is the very famous painting, of course it was famous because lots of people didn't like it, but lots of people did like it. is charles his first official portrait as king these, activists came along making the point that king charles is patron of the rspca, as it's called an animal welfare organization and they have a short farms scheme and the activists say, those farms still are cruel to animals. some of them, so they want to get rid of this assured scheme. so they're basically animal rights activists accusing the king of being hypocritical overseeing an organization which isn't protecting animal rights. so they created this cartoon characters all right, just saying this cruelty on farms. and they use the british characters cartoon characters, wallace and gromit for that. so it's making lots of headlines this is the picture kate you'll remember it. lots of people describing it as some sort of hellscape or him bathing in blood. but it's become a very famous photo. it's become a really big thing on social media. so they're getting lots of attention for it. >> also. >> i mean, it is a bit an official portion of the case. i mean, there are people in this group gonna get in trouble from it for this. i mean, let's i think so because from what we can tell, there isn't glass along the front of it either, but it does look as though no paint was used, there's certainly some glue that was used. i think it's certainly going to be seized as an act of vandalism we've contacted the police, but it's only just happens. so i think that pretty early on in the investigation absolutely all right. max. thank you so much. i really appreciate it i knew our scene a new central starts now start the clock as all this minute. >> we believe the jury in the hunter biden trial is back deliberating a verdict could come this morning breaking this morning, a suspect arrested for stabbing for americans in china the video censored on chinese social media. new questions this morning about what happened and why health experts expressing concern that a bird flu outbreak in the united states could become a much bigger problem there are a assignor is out today. i'm john berman with kate bolduan. this is cnn news central happening now alive, look at the federal court in wilmington, delaware, where everyone is waiting for work when the jury now they will be resuming deliberations in hunter biden's federal gun trial. >> they met for only about one our yesterday. so maybe they have hours of work ahead, but word could come any moment

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