case. we re not looking to see who the killer is. the investigation in a what happened case is starting right now. and we need to get the ballistics evidence in place, the forensics, the e-mails, what led up to this, was there a fight. the neighbor s testimonials, and there s make or break elements. jamie: there are so many elements that are fascinating you re right, even for legal scholars, i m sure. rachel, premeditation, we re taught in law school a certain definition of premeditation and i seem to recall on a moment s notice. if he took the time to put on his prosthetic legs when he thought was a burglar, that could change to pre-medcation. and the issue here, too, just the common sense factors, the biggest problems despite the botches that the investigators made i think is going to assist in showing
facility. we noticed floors bowing under the excess weight. what could possibly be causing the floors to be buckling? tag da. this turns out to be a veterans administration office. a va office. so naturally, what is so out of control that is potentially destroying the building are files. tens of thousands of pounds of claims files. an estimated 37,000 of them stacked on top of file cabinet anderson in botches on the floor, causing the floors to bow to the point that inspectors could see the cabinets were not level. an after the inspection, the va decided to shift a lot of that paperwork out of the building and figure out how to store it better which may make the building safer but doesn t solve the real problem. the site of all of those files stacked up in those piles in just one of the regional offices is sort of a astounding confirmation of a statistic.
the basic issue is you have a botched operation, which inevitably goes with anything human. there are going to be botches. but in this instance, you ve got a department that seemingly has covered up a lot of that botching, and i think what chavez is what chaffetz is getting at is two different levels. it s congress ability to oversee, to look at things that in many cases prevents a mistake from happening twice, and so i think what he s saying is wait a minute, we ve got to get to the bottom of what really happened here so we don t have it happen again. i would say secondly, a department of interior is about fundamentally protecting the environment or the gorgeous landscapes of this country. a department of justice is fundamentally about protecting justice within the united states, in this case, you have, you know, all kinds of back and forth as to whether or not they were telling the truth before a congressional committee and that s a huge problem particularly given this president.
of operation fast and furious. the botches gun running sting that went wrong in mexico. now many are asking if attorney general eric holder is becoming a liability for the obama administration. catherine herridge is live in washington with more. reporter: the attorney general seemed to make a critical error by publicly acknowledging the existence of an indictment in operation fast & furious. somebody has been dated has been indicted in connection with that case. that s not information you can speak to today. there some rules this is a matter that s under seal. but there has been an indictment?
all documents between attorney general eric holder, his deputies and the white house about the botches program known as operation fast & furious. i can t say there is no resistance, but we know he s going have to clear the air by answering fully and completely what he knew and when he knew it and why he didn t know it if that s the case because his key lieutenants did know a great deal about operation fast & furious. bill: that program reportedly put weapons in the hands of dangerous criminals in mexico. a government spokesman accuses him of trying to generate headlines. martha: we have a hot issue we have been covering in america s newsroom. mitt romney blasting the pastor who called mormonism a cult. he says rick perry s campaign needs to denounce that pastor s comments immediately. this is what he had to say about the controversy.