monet in on how he ended up in the garage floor. >> that sweat shirt is in the middle of the crime scene. somehow that sweatshirt got their. your sweatshirt. you explain to me how it got there. >> i have no idea. >> my name admitted that the sweatshirt had once been his. he said that ever since he dropped it in a salvation army drop off box a couple months later. >> not wash, if it had gone to the salvation army, it would have been a clean sweatshirt. your dna, chances are, probably won't have been on their. but it is. >> i see where you're coming from. >> as for david cam ... >> you know david kim? you ever met david kim? do you remember the murder of david kemp's family? >> on television, yes. >> general david kamloops?
we're u.s. marines and we'll -- >> there's not a time line, there's not a policy. they've already rolled out training. in fact, folks said it's very good training, as a matter of fact. moving a soldier from box a to box b. and driving on. so they've already incorporated this. so there's just -- there's no way -- no one knows exactly how does this roll out. because you've got to have a plan. like you said, the military needs a plan. >> honestly, is the directive to gofer ret out, to go hunt out service members who may be transgender and not serving openly? >> i think the fact that there are so many question marks is concerning. >> yeah. sue fulton, allison, thank you both for being here. this is an unusual discussion, because we really don't know what's going to happen next. especially in terms of your members and who you're in touch
good training, as a matter of fact. moving a soldier from box a to box b. plael male to faemale, female to male, and driving on. so they've already incorporated this. so there's just -- there's no way -- no one knows exactly how does this roll out. because you've got to have a plan. like you said, the military needs a plan. >> honestly, is the directive to gofer ret out, to go hunt out service members who may be transgender and not serving openly? >> i think the fact that there are so many question marks is concerning. >> yeah. sue fulton, allison jaslo, thank you both for being here. this is an unusual discussion, because we really don't know what's going to happen next. especially in terms of your members and who you're in touch with and how this is being received. >> roger that. much more tonight, including someone for whom the news today was a real personal gut punch. plus we've got senator amy klobuchar with us tonight. stay with us. ct chatter ]
as a matter of fact, in march when the irs commissioner testified before congress he didn't mention it at all, and i'll get back to that in a second and finally in june of 2013 they revealed to congress that in fact they were unrecoverable. let's go back and look at march 26th hearing. remember, they knew in february right here, knew that the irs e-mails were gone. let's go to march and jason chaffetz was told that all the e-mails were archived on an external server and could be retrieved. take a look. >> you checked the set box a-- sent box and the in box and suddenly have all the e-mails, correct? >> they get taken off and stored in servers and you've got 90,000 employees. >> i'm not -- i'm asking to find one. they type in her e-mail address. >> we could find and we in fact are searching -- we can find lois lerner's e-mails. >> really? >> well, they knew in february
e-mails? no, they didn't tell them that. as a matter of fact, in march when the irs commissioner testified before congress he didn't mention it at all, and i'll get back to that in a second and finally in june of 2013 they revealed to congress that in fact they were unrecoverable. let's go back and look at march 26th hearing. remember, they knew in february right here, knew that the irs e-mails were gone. let's go to march and jason chaffetz was told that all the e-mails were archived on an external server and could be retrieved. take a look. >> you checked the set box a-- sent box and the in box and suddenly have all the e-mails, correct? >> they get taken off and stored in servers and you've got 90,000 employees. >> i'm not -- i'm asking to find one. they type in her e-mail address. >> we could find and we in fact are searching -- we can find lois lerner's e-mails. >> really? >> well, they knew in february
jon: "happening now" around the globe in the top box north korea says president carter arrived in that country's capitol today. u.s. officials say he is hoping to win the freedom of an american citizen who is in prison there. middle box, dozens found dead at a ranch near the u.s./mexico border, a survivor of an attack there telling officials the dead are all migrants who were kidnapped by an armed group. in the bottom box a charter flight carrying the bodies of 8 hong kong victims of a manila hijacking. that plane returns home today. jenna: we are seeing more evidence of a weak economy, new home sales falling to the lowest level on record for july. very little demand given the remarkably high unemployment we
jon: "happening now" in the top box a spokesman for general david petraeus says he's feeling much better right now after he appeared to faint a short time ago during a hearing. the spokesman says the general, who over sees the wars in iraq and afghanistan was likely dehydrated and jet lagged from his travelers. in the middle box harry ried quitting help from president obama. bottom box the federal reserve adopting new rules aimed at protecting credit card customers from the high late payment charges and other fees. jane: the situation surrounding the south carolina democratic senate primary is certainly growing more curious by the day. democrats are putting pressure on alvin greene to bow out of the race this call against the republican senator jim demint.