i m joined now by the white house by white house reporter aisha roscoe and the former white house speech writer for george w. bush. good evening to both of you. good evening. david, let me start with you on the box that we saw some people publicly put themselves in if they want to defend trump but they previously said p obviously proof of a bribery plot would be bad. right. well, they started off with a stupid argument and partly maybe it was embarrassing. they retreated to a depraved argument. the stupid argument is not to see what s in front of you. the depraved argument is to justify what s in front of you. aisha. it seems like at first they were trying to say that, you know, they were basically focusing on process, they were talking about the whistle-blower only had secondhand information, and then when you have all of these people coming out with firsthand information, now you have people on the hill saying, well, is it really firsthand
now you re saying the president of the united states, the chief law enforcement person cannot ask somebody to cooperate with an ongoing public investigation into wrongdoing? that s just bizarre to me. are you saying that the money that was held up that that had nothing to do with the bidens? the money held up had absolutely nothing to do with biden. over the course of that appearance, he ultimately conceded and defended the bribery plot. get over it, then walked it back. with the benefit now of some time and you re in that same very room, how is that playing out for the white house as other officials seem to be going back to full mulvaney? well, it hasn t really played out very well for the white house in the sense that they can t get one message, so mulvaney had to walk that back. during that when i was asking him those questions, he said there were three things there were three reasons why they held up the money. one of them was that open investigation into the dnc serv
vindman, experts have called him something of an unimpeachable witness in this impeachment probe or today s news, this new full transcript from bill taylor and trump aide tim morrison. that s five officials confirming the bribery plot. show me the proof, consider it shown say the democrats. now, what about some of trump s most influential media defenders. they have a different issue. they ve already boxed themselves, some of them into denying bribery because before trump made his defense clear, they went on record saying that if there was this evidence of a bribery plot like conditioning money on going after biden, that would be wrong. if the president said, you know, i ll give you the money but you ve got to investigate joe biden, that is really off the rails wrong. right. but if it s something else, you know, it would be nice to know what it is. off the rails wrong, what does that same fox anchor say today? well, he s going full mulvaney with the, well, this is just
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want to read you exactly what happened behind closed doors. he asks are you aware that quid pro quo literal lirr means this for that. and taylor says i am. these exchanges are part of what rocked washington when these first occurred. we didn t have the transcript on that day, just video of lawmakers walking out gasping and saying things like this. in my ten short months in congress, it s not even noon, right, and this is my most disturbing day in congress so far. very troubling. very troubling. now we re reading the lines, the exact exchanges that so moved them. and there s one other key thing i want to show you tonight, taylor was diplomat who called out the bribery plot in realtime in the now famous text going back and forth with trump ally gordon sondland. there was trump and sondland claiming no bribery. sondland even typing that out, typing trump s denial in that text to taylor when he had objected. then of course you have this