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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170917:02:58:00

of the taylor brothers close friends and he was the one who told me what supposedly happened to ezekiel. and when i learned that in fact it was over an argument, over something insignificant like a card game, i was even more devastated. it just seemed like such a horrible mistake and a true tragedy. he was so empowered by becoming a father. his whole motivation for changing was because he was going to have a child. that this just, just, just seemed like such a tremendous loss and a tremendous waste. it s been fun, but i gotta run. all right? give you guys a mike. then we re going to get a parting shot of you leaving. all right. no problem with that. this is the kind of bull [ bleep ] that happens, you know? you know, i can t really understand it, because it s not an environment that i ever grew

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170917:08:14:00

he s more than that. i don t know, man, he s my mom, my dad, my brother, my son. he s everything that i got in this world. he s my reason for being. it s a lockup show, msnbc. we got to the jail one morning and we had a plan in mind of what we were going to do and a deputy comes up and tells us that gabriel, his brother ezekiel has been booked in. so immediately, our plans had changed for the day. we went into a holding cell where he was at and started talking to him. and he basically was just the person that gabriel described him to be. what s up, bro? ezekiel was back in jail due to a probation violation on his original conviction for burglary. he was assigned to the same protective custody unit as gabriel, because he too had recently sworn off gang life. we tell each other every day, if i walk by here, point at me and do a little heart to me. i m like you know, like he s

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170917:02:53:00

his brother. he was afraid their former gang affiliations could bring harm to ezekiel. they don t play games in oakland. that s the little taliban. we live in al qaeda. they see my brother and try to make an example out of him and i just see his name plastered, i don t know what i d do. make this, so i can finish my card. just days before ezekiel was due to leave, we covered the taylor brothers interacting with other inmates in their housing unit. ezekiel was making what they call a spread, which is where you take a number of commissary items and turn it into a feast for a number of people who want to participate in it. what do you call this? goulash. the same thing you call it. goulash. jailhouse goulash. how about that? so the spread was finished, ezekiel called some of the inmates over so they could all eat. and they were going to say their prayers first. one of the inmates who came over to share the meal is michael souter, a friend the taylor brothers knew from the

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170917:02:34:00

ezekiel. gabriel knew he was struggling. gabriel was honest saying he wasn t sure how he was going to do. but ezekiel seemed on a very clear path of having a better life. and this piece goes like this, right? yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah, yeah. becoming a father was a big deal to him. he already had a solid job. he knew he wanted to pursue education. and he also mentioned that, you know, he was done with robbing drug dealers and had been for a while. he didn t want to touch a gun again. i can tell you what i want to do. i can t say what s going to happen. because i can get released from here and get hit by a car, you never know. but my intentions, i m not robbing nobody no more. i ain t touched a gun in years. and i won t touch a gun. know what i mean? i don t got to look over my shoulder no more. all that [ bleep ] is done and over with. i don t got to worry with the street life. the street life is the farthest

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170917:02:51:00

want to do that? why would hannibal ride clear across the globe to go conquer rome when you live way the [ bleep ] over in africa. like, you come from way the hell why? it all boils down to greed and it helps you understand people. because, me, i m really into sociology too. i just finished a book that was called king leopold s ghost, about leopold ii and his exploitation of the congo. seemed like it was right up his alley. so i was done with the book, i figured i d just give it to him. help him kill a little bit of time while he was in jail. come to find out, i couldn t give it to him because of jail rules. paunch would have to wait until ezekiel s release from jail to give him the book. that day was quickly approaching. ezekiel was housed in the protective custody unit with his brother gabriel. i ll be out the day before my birthday. happy birthday. how you feeling about that? ready to go back to work. ready to go back to work.

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