critical and methodical testimony at the second hearing. testimony from donald trump s own attorney general, william barr, as well as former top officials of trump s 2020 re-election campaign on how the former president refused to admit that he lost the election to joe biden, and he pushed his big lie of election fraud on the american people. now, i want you to pay close attention to the former attorney general bill barr telling the committee that trump had become detached from reality. the claims of fraud were bullshit, and, you know, he was indignant about that. and i reiterated that they d wasted a whole month on these claims on the dominion voting machines, and they were idiotic claims. and i specifically raised the dominion voting machines, which i found to be among the most disturbing allegations, disturbing in the sense that i saw absolutely zero basis for the allegations, but they were made in such a sensational way that they obviously were influencing a lot of peop
this election. frankly, we did win this election. reporter: donald trump s false claim that he won the election before all the votes were counted, a lie he continues to peddle but one the january 6th committee didn t believe, like his attorney general. he had become attached from reality if he really believes this stuff. reporter: his campaign manager. i didn t think what was happening was necessarily i remember tell being him i didn t believe the dominion allegations. what they were proposing i thought was nuts. the theory was also completely nuts. reporter: trump s assertion that he won the election is at the core of the committee s argument that he purposely and criminally worked to prevent the i told him that the claims of fraud wiere bullshit. bill stepien was supposed to testify live but when his went into labor, he bowed out. did anybody who was a part of that conversation disagree with your message? yes. who was that? the president disagr
critical and methodical testimony at the second hearing. testimony from donald trump s own attorney general, william barr, as well as former top officials of trump s 2020 re-election campaign on how the former president refused to admit that he lost the election to joe biden, and he pushed his big lie of election fraud on the american people. now, i want you to pay close attention to the former attorney general bill barr telling the committee that trump had become detached from reality. the claims of fraud were bullshit, and, you know, he was indignant about that. and i reiterated that they d wasted a whole month on these claims on the dominion voting machines, and they were idiotic claims. and i specifically raised the dominion voting machines, which
philadelphia city commissioner al schmidt. i m so glad to see both of you gentlemen again. thank you for coming on and discussing this. ben, i m going to start with you. you spent your entire career recip representing republicans in election related cases. these are their words, bogus, crazy, bullshit, silly, completely nuts. those are direct quotes. look, it s hard to disagree with it, especially sitting here now after they went to court more than 60 times, filed 180 different counts, lost every one but a sort of an irrelevant procedural case in pennsylvania. that is not being able to make your claim, not having the evidence to say that the elections were fraudulent. so, yeah, i do agree with them. how do you think the hearings are going? do you think they re making their case? i think they re making an effective case.