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Took a sheet from this bunk bed and threw himself off this bunk bed in an attempt to strangle himself or commit suicide. what position would he land in? >> it would be somewhat unpredictable. but he would be sprawled in a jigsaw type arrangement. i would not expect him in a coordinated fashion you see with someone kneeling forward in a semi stooped kneeling position. judge jeanine: we have an example of someone 6 feet tall kneeling next to a 56" bunk bed. could he lean in sufficiently to first q...

Took a sheet from this bunk bed and threw himself off this bunk bed in an attempt to strangle himself or commit suicide. what position would he land in? >> it would be somewhat unpredictable. but he would be sprawled in a jigsaw type arrangement. i would not expect him in a coordinated fashion you see with someone kneeling forward in a semi stooped kneeling position. judge jeanine: we have an example of someone 6 feet tall kneeling next to a 56" bunk bed. could he lean in sufficiently to first q...

Surgeon who says this amount of fracture in the neck is unusual for hanging. so you have to envision he flung himself off the bunkbed with a lot of force. i have to look at it that way. its less likely than what i expect. but its possible. >> forget the height. remember kate spade. rest her soul. used a scarf and doorknob on her bathroom door. no height whatsoever. epstein is 66-year-old man. where the indications are the older you are -- >> bones break more easily. >> in men and women. if you a...

Come out today. if it was a suicide and a hanging -- im accepting that -- it means it wasas forceful. for the bones to break, we have been talking about that. the hyoid bone to break you have to have a pronounced force. almost like what they used to do in the 1800s and when you dropped you toward the floor. >> tammy: this is why you are not supposed to have bunk bed in a cell. that allows you some height to do that. and in this process, many people this is strange, we dont think about this becau...

Something about how the neck was. but look, i talked to a vascular surgeon who says this amount of fracture in the neck is unusual for hanging. so, you have to envision f he flung himself off this bunk bed with a lot of force. and i have to look at it that way, right now. its less likely than what i expect. but its certainly possible. >> tammy: forget the height. remember kate spade. rest her soul. used a scarf and the doorknob on her bathroom door. no height whatsoever. epstein is 66-year-old m...

>> tammy: the worldwide speculation, considering the nature of what had gone on, the fact he was able to die in some fashion in that prison. one of the highest profile people in the world. yet he seemed to manage to pull it off. we now have the autopsy. they say unequivocally it was a suicide. do you buy that? and are you comfortable with that finding? >> i think we have to start right there. i think the new york city medical examiner was veryt definitive on this, that it was, a hanging, a suici...

Found kneeling into the rope, with the bedpost -- bed sheet attached to the bedpost? did i hear the world kneeling? >> he said he had the bed sheet, tied it to the bunk and knelt to the floor and committed suicide. >> im going to tell you, i will repeat this. you do not from a kneeling position with the bed sheet attached to the bedpost break the hyoid bone, which is high up on to the mandible and also cervical vertebrae. we havent heard, i havent, about how many vertebrae, they use the plural. ...

According to who ever you speak to, this bone can break in hanging. we believe epstein died in an apparent hanging. it also is seen in homicide strangulation. we spoke with a medical examiner. this is what they will be looking at when this report comes out. >> one can see how much fractures were there and the bone, where are those fractures? and was there a fracture of the cartilage and structure beneath the bone? those are things you want to look for. >> the more breaks there are, the less like...

Are looking at what went wrong. this is standard protocol after a significant event like this one. one of the key questions as weve been talking really for days, is the number of correctional staff at mcc who were on these overtime shifts before and after the epstein suicide. we can now report officials have found, and this is really an incredible number, 93% of that overtime they were serving was voluntary by those staff. also for context, this happened in new york, but theres a lot happening h...

Generate the force in a cell like that with a bunk bed to break your hyoid bone? >> in my opinion, the only way in which the hyoid bone and cervical vertebral bodies would have been broken in a suicidal scenario would be for epstein to have been on the top bunk and to have literally hurl himself off. not just climb down, stepping down carefully. to literally hurl himself off. as they said yesterday, force equals one half mass times velocity squared. you have to have velocity. the velocity could ...