forward to your questions. maybe for some context. can you compare what the president is contemplating with what bush did in 6,000 national guards and personnel for arizona, new mexico. presid obama did 1,200. is he going to do something larger than that? let me take the last part first. we hope the deployment begins immediately. i will have conversation with the governors today. it s done through a men random of agreement. we re working with haste to agree on that. we specified out the missions where we need support. they include everything there aerial surveillance through some of the support functions that the guard was able to do under president bush in operation jump start. so we ve been very specific state be i state, local by local
of what cbp believes what they need and we ll work in conjunction with the governors on the front lines to see what they need and work it with the national guard. as soon as possible. conversations are ongoing. and size and duration we have not. i don t want to get ahead of the governors. this is a partnership with them. we re giving them the opportunity to review our suggestions of how the national guard can support the border patrol. as soon as the numbers are available will it be more robust than the bush employment? it will be strong. it will be as many as is needed to fill the gaps that we have today. we ll go through and make sure. madam secretary, in terms of the operations, operation jump start prohibited the national guard from laying hands on immigrants. they were only in a support capacity to the border patrol. are you thinking of similar rules of engagement? we re working with the governors. we ve had that nversation. it s a partnership under title