doesn t think that aviation is going to pick up and recover. well, there are, mr lundgren. the consultancy group, mckinsey, says it may not return to 2019 levels in 202a. our analysts believe 2023. that is not part our analysts believe 2023. that is not part of our analysts believe 2023. that is not part of your our analysts believe 2023. that is not part of your business model. that was not part of the model. that was not part of the model that encourages you and others in the country to believe that putting this massive deal together with airbus was the right thing to do. . . airbus was the right thing to do. , ., . ., , do. things have changed. yes, that we are do. things have changed. yes, that we are flexible do. things have changed. yes, that we are flexible it - do. things have changed. yes, that we are flexible it in - that we are flexible it in order to cope with that. and in 20 to 84, we can cope with the level of flexibility we have because that is what we have neg
the management for what was going to be a period of time. in those early months after march, 2020, you simply grounded your entire fleet. i just wonder, for a boss of an air line, what it is like to issue that order, all planes have to stop? it issue that order, all planes have to stop? issue that order, all planes have to stop? it is the. and it was, have to stop? it is the. and it was. the have to stop? it is the. and it was, the low have to stop? it is the. and it was, the low point - have to stop? it is the. and it was, the low point of - have to stop? it is the. and it was, the low point of these 15-16 it was, the low point of these 15 16 months. because of so many reasons. you have an airline, you have people working with you, you have millions of customers who actually depended on easyjet, thatis actually depended on easyjet, that is part of the way they live their lives and actually, when you do notifying it all live this and the logistical challenge of getting and when
well, a lot less, that is for sure. we have about 12,000 full time employees in the company, about 15,000 people. we have negotiated discussions in the eu to keep most of them, but a lot of people have gone on to part time. here in the uk of course we have a lot of people who are on furlough, as an example. but while we are seeing now that the business is starting to recover outside of the uk, we are putting people back into operations, which is fantastic to see. but that is what we would be hoping for, but that would happen in the uk as well. ., . ., ., as well. how close to going bust has as well. how close to going bust has easyjet as well. how close to going bust has easyjet been - as well. how close to going bust has easyjet been in i as well. how close to going | bust has easyjet been in the last 15 or 16 months?- bust has easyjet been in the last 15 or 16 months? last 15 or16 months? well, not close at all. last 15 or16 months? well, not close at all. easyjet last 15 or1
uk government, hasn t it? well, no. it uk government, hasn t it? well, n0- it has uk government, hasn t it? well, no. it has been uk government, hasn t it? well, no. it has been getting - uk government, hasn t it? well, no. it has been getting to - uk government, hasn t it? well, no. it has been getting to us - no. it has been getting to us through a variety of sources. let us be clear. you have raised money from shareholders, but as i understand it, you had a £600 million loan from the uk government at the very beginning of this crisis, that is a very big chunk of money. without that support you would have been in real trouble. let s be clear about the numbers he we had £100 million on furlough, £600 million that have come to the support of the ccf, which was not something that was notjust ccf, which was not something that was not just available for easyjet, that was for any company that had an investment balance sheet that could apply for that. , , ., , for that. but my ques
travel is only for the wealthy. unfortunately you are right and thatis unfortunately you are right and that is even the case when you are looking the few countries in the green. even in the green countries we have to do this testing and this is something that we pointed out quite early on, and it wasn t like, i think, people understood how costly this was and how out of reach this would make travel to before millions and of people. do you think that actually, post covid, attitudes to travel might change? and we haven t talked about business because that s not the biggest part of your enterprise but nonetheless, some business people travel on easyjet, and both for business and for leisure, may be in the future people will think twice about lying. this might notjust be something that goes away, this might be a reassessment of how much people want to travel and for business, at least, we do have zoom and skype and