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Hear and it hear playstation and oh, thats just those gamers. thats certainly not the case. when do we know about the possibility and how many possible credit card numbers were actually stolen? >> sony has been on record saying -- i give them credit card for at least coming forward and saying we did get breached and dont know if credit card data was stolen. take precaution. >> a lot of people said they were zblat late in terms of making that known. i also think, look, when you are doing forensic...