That. Which is a plan obama put forward that relies heavily on ideas tat conservatives put forward 520 years before. It was like mitt romneys plan in massachusetts and the Heritage Foundation and republican plans people like bob dole put up as an alternative to bill Clintons Hillary clinton proposal but it wasnt enough. Host lets go back to the start of your book because we are in a political season. You start the book by talking about the rise of donald trump and you suggest that trump, the roots of the rise of trump, are in conservative history and it helps to explain why, in your opinion, the right went wrong. Explain ow the roots of trump are in conservative history. The fir guest the first sentence in the book is this is a story of betray betrayal. And i quote eric ericson where he said the Republican Party created donald trump because they made a lot of promises they didnt keep. Ever since Berry Goldwater, republicans promised to create a small government, which no republican pre