byron tell us a moment ago, congressman donalds say he believes therehe ballot, byron donalds and voted for himself. we ll see what happens and will cover it. john: nothing will happen today, i don t think, so whatever negotiations occur after the house adjourns for the day. meantime, new at 2:00 and breaking right now, the man accused in the murders of four idaho students on the way to idaho where he faces four counts of first-degree murder. sandra: the 28-year-old man tells his defense lawyer he is eager to be exonerated. john: dan springer is outside the idaho facility. when can we expect kohberger to arrive, dan? it s a good question, john, and we are tracking a plane we think he is on that stopped in champagne, illinois to refuel, and then it will be coming up here and it could be 3, 4 hours. we don t know exactly when he ll get here, but we do know he ll be coming to the county jail. i talked to the county prosecutor. he says if he gets here before court ends, a
wall street. the stock market continues to be relentless in the face of this gridlock happening in washington. the dow is up today. the reason for that, the longer this goes on, there s likely to be gridlock in congress the next two weeks and wall street likes gridlock because nothing changes. sandra: see you tomorrow, john. thanks for joining us. i m sandra smith. john: we ll see you tomorrow. i m john roberts. the story with martha starts right now. martha: all right. breaking news. continuing coverage this afternoon of a cliff-hanger in the house of representatives. republicans battle over who will be the speaker in the majority that they will hold for the next two years. house republican leader kevin mccarthy failing falling short on the fifth ballot to become speaker. blocked by another challenger from his own party. byron donalds of florida. he joined john sandra last hour after he also blocked mccarthy
can happen. there s no limit. so, mccarthy has indicated, and as far as we have seen publicly, that he s going to stay with this, and continue to negotiate and hope for change. so that s where we are at almost 3:00 eastern time today, martha. martha: mccarthy has been dug in, saying it might take a while, and an answer to how many ballots, it can go on forever. in the civil war period more than 130 ballots as they got to this point, no cable news covering this and we tend to want things to happen in 2023 in sort of a faster, more efficient fashion, but you know, this is this is an interesting situation, and byron donalds made some interesting points with you guys a short time ago and there are people out there who would like to see more serious reform there in this very small sliver of this overarching larger republican group that is voting on this.
so, at some point something will give. there will be a speaker of the house and my guess is after that happens, people will move on and they ll be looking at them to get something done. right now this is where we are, guys. john: one of the points, martha, byron donalds made. the world is not going to end tomorrow if no speaker is decided today, which is absolutely true. what happens, you get a delay in the formation of the committees, you get a delay in jim jordan starting investigations into myriad of things, including hunter biden, but those things can wait, according to byron donalds and others who oppose kevin mccarthy under the way things look now. it does not matter if those are delayed for a few days, we ll start those things up. two years is a long time in politics. we are just so used to a coronation happening every january 3rd that this process looks a little frustrating, a little dragged out. but he s saying there is really
constituents want back at home, they want to see some real fiscal responsibility and are questioning whether or not they would get it with this kevin mccarthy scenario. they are pushing for a change in terms of the investigation of the doj and the fbi, they want scott perry to run that, not jim jordan. jim jordan has been pretty tenacious in this process, he sort of remains in his mix in the water as well. i thought it was interesting watching jim jordan walk through the rotunda part of the building a short time ago, swarmed by people asking him questions. byron donalds in the same position. aishah hasnie is reporting byron donalds will be the alternative choice in the next round but you can see there is support for jim jordan as well. so, this is really, from our perspective, fascinating to watch that play out, you mentioned earlier this is the way conventions used to look, more interesting to cover when