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Out realistically whats an effective strategy for dealing with this that doesnt over rely on using sledge hammers and military force and undermine the effective tools we do have to disrupting terrorist finance, for instance, disrupting terrorist communications. im cautiously optimistic these hearings do represent some renewed willingness to take a serious issue seriously. maybe im -- i hope im not wrong, but i would like to think so. >> your optimism about it, you have moved me to feel more opti...