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The white house press secretary is not going to litigate that or frame that conversation from the white house podium. we dont know if they have spoken yet. we dont believe they have spoken yet since the bomb shell yesterday, but she would not confirm that. certainly trying to take the temperature down a little bit, if you will, heading into the holidays. key, joe manchin is as important to this as he ever was. >> jeff zeleny, manu raju, thank you both. in a radio interview, senator joe manchin...