that s the reality of what went on. the biggest take away here in the course of the back and forth that s confusing even as i read it to you is rudy giuliani after saying point-blank that these conversations lasted throughout the 2016 campaign is now distances himself from his own comments. that sums it up in a nutshell. the nut was pretty big to get to the shell. thank you. i ll see you in a bit in the white house. what do we say about this at this point? don junior is putting distance for himself and rudy giuliani saying he s afraid his gravestone will say he lied for trump. it will be there. i honestly, i tweeted this morning. i do not understand why anybody listens to rudy giuliani anymore. he has no credibility. he s still the president s lawyer. he still represents the president of the united states of america. right? he sort of is the pr lawyer. he s the cable lawyer. he s the interviews lawyer. he s not doing the legal work for the president based on my