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Between them -- and saying time-out. this is out of control. >> yeah. >> this is crazy. >> mm-hmm. >> this is the worst thing ive ever seen. and again, you could look at "jersey shore," you could look at other shows, but they are not kids. they are not 15-year-old actors in here. >> thats the point. >> thats the key, alex. and you can appreciate this, too. >> i absolutely can, because you have kids playing these roles. not adults that look younger -- >> 15, 16, 17. thats it! >> their peers, kids...