that was that and then that day phone has been ringing and went national and then i believe it went worldwide. people have sent us hate mail and things like that. joe is the chairman of the national association of karate and martial arts schools, a british organization that regulates traditional a and nontraditional martial arts. nightingale, jim reps, is not part of it. our policy is not to encourage or allow children and those under the age of 18 to participate in cage fighting eor mixed martial arts on a competitive level. he s an advocate of the sport, but horrified by the video. two children engaged in this activity, which the dangers to them. from a physical perspective and from an emotional, mental perspective. if they were wearing head guards or paring pads, then maybe we could then say, okay, this is safe.