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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 05:37:00

richter about 30 times. she said, she was so frightened that she stashed a gun under her pillow, just in case. and she woke up the morning of the shooting, she said, by the sound of jason yelling and screaming. he was, you know using some curse words and god i m so sick of this! and where is my computer. jason believes that julie had hit in his computer. his face was all red and he was just, you know, his nose scrunched up and his eyes squinting and he just had this look of absolute rage and hate. but this was, i don t know this was bad. what did he attempt to do with that? he grabbed me and began youngkin my top off and started pushing back and somehow managed to sort of wiggle my way free, pulling away as quickly as i could move from there across the room to my bed. what did you do when you got to the bed? i grabbed my gun from under my pillow. a derringer 38 caliber handgun. he was coming towards me with his arms raced and he said, i m going to kill you you and

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 10:52:00

big break in the case. you now have another dead body? correct. the agents raced to rockland, new york. two hours north of new york city. where was the body found? 20 feet from his vehicle, in an open field. denahan got an update from his agents. they believe the man had parked his car, walked into the field and shot himself. self inflicted gunshot wound to the head, with a. 380 caliber handgun. a quick search of the man s car, agents found those dossiers on the judge angelucci. they also discovered the dead man s name, roy hollander. what were you learning about him? he was 72 years old at the time of his death. he was highly educated, a practicing attorney. anything else the agent wanted to know about hollander, was found in a 1500-page manifesto on his computer. the pages dripped with hatred of women, like his ex wife, a russian bride who dumped him when she got to america.

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:16:00

she didn t even have time to take her coat off. her gloves, anything. so when she entered that door, that shot was immediate. the weapon appear to be a 40 caliber handgun. but no sign of a gun. did it seem like denise had possibly startled a burglar? when we got there, it looked like he interrupted a burglary. when she came home the, house had been ransacked like somebody had broken in through the back door. started going through the house. she had maybe startled a burglar when she came in through the front door. well investigators combed the quick the crime scene, nathan anxiously watched the police activity from the house across the street. how did they tell you what they had found? the police were not the first people to tell me. unfortunately, i found out about it through my father. i was calling my dad and dad said well i m on my way. i just heard on the radio. the local news media just put

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 08:06:00

you delete something does not mean it s gone. what they found floor of them. it rained from how to silence a 40 caliber handgun. a glock specifically, which is the gun he owned. and she was shot with. how do you silence that. and overdose somebody with insulin. drowned in the bathtub. this goes back several months before the murder. so he is potentially thinking up all of these ways to kill his wife. i honestly think, he played it out. did you straight-up ask him, did you have anything to do with your wife s death? and? he said no. not only did he deny killing his wife, nathan told us that there was a perfectly good explanation for all of those internet searches police uncovered. electrocution in the bathtub, how to silence a gun we started a foundation overseas called hope for tomorrow to combat suicide. we were doing research and

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 07:48:00

before i came back to the house. but was it down there for? a pulled over to make a phone call. it turns out on the day of the murder, nathan was at the same park where denise is car was later found. and that s when one of the detectives got frustrated with nathan s whole story, and confronted him. it s not a coincidence that we re missing a 40 caliber glock handgun, and there s evidence that leads us to believe your wife was probably shot with a 40 caliber handgun. okay? and then, furthermore, to have her car down the street at the park, right, where you failed to tell us that you are there prior to going home earlier that day. it was a short phone call. i didn t think i know, but i mean, thing is, we re talking about things that once you start piecing things together, we re trying to figure things out. i understand. okay, so if you are at the park, at the exact same park your wife s car was at, i need to figure out how your wives car got there. okay.

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