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He brought back a caliphate supposedly. he -- you know, the social media contributed to the brand of isis and he was the face of that brand. definitely, you know, tactician. he depended a lot on strategists, especially the baathists to help him. however, hes not a bin laden. he considered himself among -- when he talks to the troops as the followers of bin laden. they say, we are the two followers of bin laden. wedge in bin ladens al qaeda, not the other al qaeda. remember the islamic state in i...

Actually happen, im joined by my guests. tony blinken, former national security adviser in just a second. medi, let me start with you. obviously theres a profound symbolic and sort of human justice angle to this. which is that isis under baghdadi really was one of the most evil war criminal enterprieptente enterprises of our lifetimes. >> theres no doubt about that. and good riddance to him and i think youre right to say the world is a better place without him. and this is a blow to isis. theres...

Of isis and the continuity of the so-called caliphate. why? theres a total vacuum of leadership today in isis. many of the people behind or the powers behind the throne in this room and most have been killed. the worst job in the so-called islamic state is to be the number two. youre immediately -- a few months youre eliminated. so now theres no one with -- you know, no one enough trusted or can be inspiring for the troops for the rank and file that can fit his shoes at this point. however, that...

Were astonishing. his laudatory comments about turkey. i think the kurds were 95% of the fight against the caliphate. they took it down. they paid a huge price. and we abandoned them. and that lesson has been absorbed by many other allies and enemies in the middle east and elsewhere. >> a question i asked earlier in the broadcast, how unnatural was it for you to hear the first thanks went out to the russians and it turns out the russians knew about the raid before pelosi and schumer? >> well, yo...

You can take out the kurdish frontier people, you can dump 2.5 million refugees, arabs, back into syria, and we wont -- we wont oppose you. you know, what he should have done, obviously, was tell them, look, im going to move 500 more u.s. troops up there and the turks would have never crossed the border. the turks have also been, arguably, supportive of isis operatives in the past. you know, they let thousands of european jihadists come through turkey and get into the fight in syria. so, the pre...

Al baghdadi gone, do they talk about reconciliation and forming another group. >> im not the kind of deep expert that others are, but i think it is offense they you could have a folding on size back into al qaeda. isiss whole point was bring the caliphate about here and now. it is perhaps generations from now. isis having gone out there trying to establish a caliphate, maybe that is not their adheren adherence. member they need to merge back into that group. >> the pentagon is expected to releas...

Understand anything about foreign policy. what do we do from here? what happens the next time we find ourselves in a situation like this? who do we get to cooperate with us? all hes done is strengthen -- oh, wow. >> i dont mean to interrupt you, i was just going to say, to that point, we now know the critical intelligence to helped track down the isis leader came from the syrians and the kurds. but president trump was mostly thanking russia for letting us in their airairspace, then he s there wa...

Ours but are not ours. for more on the meeting of what actually happen, im joined by my guests. let me start with you. obviously theres a profound symbolic and sort of human justice angle to this. that isis under baghdadi was one of the most evil war criminal enterprises of our lifetime. >> there is no doubt about that. and good riddance to him and i think youre right to say the world is a better place without him. and this is a blow to isis. no debate about that. theyve lost their calif and cal...

United states senator. theyre not good for the nation in the sense that theyre not helpful. there are distractions. but there are obligations. its a constitutional obligation. theres no way around it. >> before i let this issue go, i want to talk about syria as well, of course. but is there an argument, once we get into 2020, let the voters decide? >> oh, yeah, there is. and by the way, thats my job. >> okay. the house has to do their job, the candidates do theirs. >> speaking about your job, on...

They lost their caliphate, what is isis today? >> that is a great question, we killed these two leaders, this is a al qaeda stronghold. they said that finding al baghdadi where we found him is is like finding derek jeter in south boston. how well are they doing? >> but you made an interesting point. isis and al qaeda were at each others throats. followers of each one pledges allegiance to different ones. if youre a terrorist you pledge allegiance to someone. with osama bin laden long gone,