faith in governor pence and his connections and his stature in washington. he s been a very successful governor and a very successful member of the house of representativ representatives. i think now that we are in that faze, he obviously wanted to look at some of the people that would lead that transition more carefully, more thoroughly and he made a decision. reporter: sean spicer dodging the question about what happened to chris christie and not talking about the shake up. he talked about bringing the country together, unity and donald trump talking about winning. we ll see how things shake out. this is a favorite washington parlor game, who is in charge of the transition and who is going to be in charge. fred? very fascinating. chris frates, thank you.