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All of that makes it difficult for lindsey graham to come on your program and say, when it comes to the nsa program, i understand it, there are checks and balances, i know about it. >> if clapper under oath makes this statement in response to the senators answer and you dont trust that he was being truthful, how in the world can we have the dni, the highest ranking intelligence officer in our nation, how can we trust when he goes to work every day? this ones under oath? >> this is a real problem...

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