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i was more worried about somebody in a pickup truck. those are things that unfortunately after what happened in wisconsin last year i think about. today, yesterday, i felt like i had a lot of adrenaline. i was not sure what i was feeling. today i'm just horribly, horribly, horribly sad. i feel sick to my stomach. i feel like everyone has to kind of just commit that this is so unacceptable that an 18-year-old can have access. family are responsible for their kids, whether they are 18 or 21, on some level. people have responsibility to try to protect their children
can't get access. we need to make sure we provide resources. resources at our schools, in our community in general. training professionals, whether those are doctors or psychologists, therapists. making sure we are a supportive community and getting mental health care they need and deserve. >> we have been told by tom winter and our authorities covering the federal authorities, there's no hate crime, per se. there's no specific speech against the jewish community, for >> again, i think the crime scene, the area that you are showing on camera, that area is still locked off. police and law enforcement are doing all their work to collect the evidence they need. and the appropriate charges, i'm
music. he was known to police in some fashion. >> ben, let's talk about the fact that they were not aware of these violent videos. >> that's a little surprising. as ken said, this guy was a known entity in community. these videos couldn't be any more violent. they were depictions of school shootings, depictions of him in a shootout with the police. the cartoon that was created for his most recent music video featured him with a long gun like the one he used allegedly for this shooting. it's surprising to me that this person was not a known entity in these spaces. it's very difficult to -- the internet is a vast and wide place. i'm sure that some people didn't even know this guy was making these violent videos was located in highland park, illinois.
wounds. no other accident rushing or stampeding away from the terrible situation. it was all from the gunshots. more than 70 rounds is what the deputy chief said. i'm fascinated by the fact that dressed in women's clothing to blend in with the crowd. left the rifle there. which is unusual in these instances. he had another one in his car we discover. in his mother's car, in the getaway car. he walked in the crowd of people leaving the parade after that horror, walked to his mother's house and borrowed her car. we don't know what kind of interactions there were there. we don't know anything further about, ken, the possible charges that might be levelled against him. they are all, as we understand it from tom winter, they are all going to be state charges, state and local charges. the local assault weapon ban. >> right. they found no evidence of a potential hate crime.
social media companies bearing any responsibility for this? do they make an effort? >> it's really difficult. even in his discord, had is quasi-private -- you had to have an invite to it -- there was not a lot going on there that was actionable. one time he threatened suicide on a specific instagram story post. but that's not actionable either because they found it days later. you can't prove after the fact. it's a complicated legal area. all this other stuff is viewed as art. it was a music video with 50,000 views on it. there are movies about school shootings that look like his music video. i will admit it was very bad. some people were in the discord
the fact that there's, again, access -- i have a 24-year-old son who when i went to try and help out, he came and he said, dad, i don't want to leave you. he was worried about me. he said, i want to try and help. i said, matthew, you need to leave now. get out of here. my son is 24. he can't rent a car. he is legal to drink for three years. at 18, when he graduated high school, he could have gotten a gun made for warfare. when a winds up in somebody who has got some kind of mental illness and it's happened all across the country, you can't treat those people with a pill. those young people, at that age, there's a lot to fix. over their 22 years, they have
come to a point where they should not have access to ruin families and ruin the lives of so many people. >> let me ask you about your children, your grandchildren. did you get them to safety before you returned to start treating the wounded? >> my wife just grabbed everyone. they started running like everyone else. i didn't leave because my instinct was not to leave. i waited for the shots to stop. then there were people on the ground and people were screaming. i wasn't the only one. there were a couple other doctors who were around. there was a nurse practitioner. there were probably other people who are not medical professionals who tried to do what they can do, which was -- the people who were killed were