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Require paper backups in future elections. so, thats part of the issue. elections in america even what you think of as national elections are not necessarily national. theyre just a lot of local elections. >> theyre complicated. joining us to discuss this, wendy wiser, director of democracy program at nyu. thank you for being here. walk us through this. the state that is dont have paper backups, what do they do to protect the vote? >> we have actually had a lot of redundant systems in place, reg...