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MSNBC Dateline February 19, 2022 08:01:00

>> she said the man attacked her. >> he told me he was going to kill me. >> shed been assaulted. she defended herself. >> so why did others call it murder? >> my very first words were, she set him up. >> caras account kept changing. >> it hit me just how different all of these stories were and how unbelievable they were. >> lies. its all lies. >> what really made cara pull that trigger? >> the rug was pulled out from underneath her. she was shocked. >> and she was angry? >> yes. >> a jury would ...
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MSNBC Dateline February 19, 2022 09:48:00

But calm as the jury deliberated. >> it was nerve-wracking. i was, like, wondering what they were talking about. >> reporter: ron fowler was foreman of the jury, amy petrila was the one and only woman. >> reporter: how did the prosecution want you to see her and her character? >> you know, manipulated and -- and cold -- a cold blooded killer. >> reporter: would you agree with that? >> well, yeah. and i guess maybe not quite to that degree. >> reporter: but was she? >> you know, shes a teacher. s...
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MSNBC Dateline February 19, 2022 08:57:00

He was done. and i was proud of him. >> so hed left her. taken up with another woman. cut off a substantial income. ended her ability to control him. sounded like a motive, said the detectives. >> the rug was pulled out from underneath her. she was -- she was shocked -- dismay. >> and she was angry? >> the shock turns to anger at some point. >> and there was j.j., apparently happy, getting his own place, his own car. had a girlfriend who loved him. bought his daughter that dress. >> i think it w...
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MSNBC Dateline February 19, 2022 08:38:00

Was it a third version of events? this one filled with stories about j.j. >> he had a dark side. >> yes. cara had a lot to say about her recently departed ex, but was it true? coming up -- cara calls one behavior of j.j.s disturbing and downright compulsive. >> there were days where he could go from sun down to sun up. >> why some say j.j. was spinning out of control. >> there is no way to predict where the spiral would end. either a danger to himself or someone else. >> when "dateline" continue...
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MSNBC Dateline February 19, 2022 09:08:00

Condition he was in, what -- what jay had done, what -- what jay had threatened to do. but then it goes to "someone" was in my house. i -- i mean, it -- it cant be both. did you think this was jay or did you think this was a masked marauder breaking -- >> i thought -- >> -- into your home? >> -- i was going to die. >> what made you think that? >> somebody was in my home. whether it was jay or jack the ripper, i was scared. >> reporter: there were more variations. the door was locked, or it wasnt...
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MSNBC Dateline February 19, 2022 09:16:00

>> did you read her her miranda warning? >> i did. >> how long had she been in the patrol car when you did that? >> about 15 minutes. >> reporter: and heres how the deputy said cara responded. >> her comment was, "yes, i understand. >> reporter: but cara swore that never happened. >> absolutely not. >> reporter: who was right? thats when futerman got a big idea. >> we got a lip reader. >> reporter: you got a lip reader? >> we got a lip reader. i was looking at this video. and i started thinking....
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MSNBC Dateline February 19, 2022 08:54:00

He couldnt go out to lunch without bringing home a receipt. >> if he wanted to help his daughter meghan, he had to ask cara. >> like, i once needed help with a deposit for my phone and he had to call and have a conversation over $100, just to help me out. and so -- he was like, yeah, cara said okay. and its like, okay, thanks. >> meghans mom, and j.j.s first wife, sherry tribby, said it was always like that with cara. >> once when meghan was in elementary school, i didnt have the money to buy he...
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MSNBC Dateline February 19, 2022 08:15:00

>> anyway, cara seemed to be moving on, too. with another police officer. a steamy relationship. march 2015, three weeks after j.j. moved out is when it happened. the night of panic and terror. and now cara was sitting in a police car. what was she thinking? heres what she told us. she was wondering, she said, why it was taking so long for paramedics to treat the intruder she shot. >> i thought maybe i had grazed him. and when i got into the cruiser i said, whats going on? why didnt -- why isnt ...
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MSNBC Dateline February 19, 2022 08:53:00

Happen, tracking him down to an out of the way beach. >> she actually told us, you know, im walking on this beach thats nowhere near my house and i say, the next man i walk into -- >> hes the one. >> yeah. and it ends up being j.j. it wasnt -- >> maybe in the movies, i guess, that might happen. >> calculating, said the detectives. and in keeping. >> a lot of the description to us of their relationship was she was more controlling. >> and especially, without exception -- >> she controlled the mon...
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MSNBC Dateline February 19, 2022 08:35:00

>> uh-huh. >> didnt show there wasnt a rape. >> while cara was at the rape crisis center, the detectives received new information from the crime scene. such as, first responders believed the house lights had pretty much all been on when whatever happened happened. remember, cara said it was dark in the house, but -- >> once we gathered a little bit more evidence from the detectives working the crime scene, then we did get definitely more pointed in our question and more direct. >> and then somet...
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