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and then actually never really does do it. like release his taxes, right. then there's other cases where it overrides all common sense, all of his advice and everybody else and does do it. the big question is, is he going to do it in this case? we don't know what donald trump we're fog to get on that particular day. although his staff does say and his attorneys do say that his tweets, in effect, and his public statements amount to his own testimony so far and you can just read his tweets and read his mind and that's something muler is doing, to see if there's any condemning statements he's made in those tweets. >> he's been warned about that for a very long time. the president continues, you know, to tweet. whether he is saying disparaging things about the process, his own intel community, all of that. how will mueller use these tweets to his advantage? even if they never get direct q & a from the president? >> yes, well, the tweets, on one
hand, the tweets are just irrelevant to mueller and his team. it's just background noise and they're not paying attention to it. in terms of affecting the work they're doing. >> but it could influence direction or could -- >> even with -- >> -- cause more probative questions? >> it could provide leads and, in fact, even amount to evidence at some point. >> even when he tweets blatantly that sessions should fire mueller. >> that's the kind of tweet that could amount to evidence -- >> whether the word is "must" or "should." it's important. >> in terms of the tweets as criticism, you know, that's what i mean when i say the mueller team is not paying attention to that. sure, they're looking for potential evidence there. and so we'll see how that goes. i don't -- if i had to predict, i wouldn't say the president will sit down with the mueller team. i'm not sure the mueller team needs the president to sit down to make whatever case or cases they're trying to make. >> meaning they already know the
answers likely? just to see whether someone's being truthful? >> i think that's right. ironically enough, most subjects or targets of investigations, when they're given an opportunity to sit down with the prosecutors, it's really in their benefit to potentially talk themselves out of an indictment. in the absence of sitting down and convincing the prosecutors an indictment is forthcoming. it's more complicated of course with the president because there's the school of thought that says the sitting president cannot be indicted. i'm not sure that there's a good answer here for the president. on one hand, defense lawyers would say don't sit down in the situation. on the other hand, of course, the mueller team will assume the worst if they don't get cooperation. >> and then, you know, steve, all of these investigations are taking rather odd twists. because now sources are telling cnn that kristin davis, also known as the manhattan madam, met mueller for a voluntary interview this week. investigators appear to be interested in her close ties with longtime trump adviser
roger stone. so, steve, how do you see all of this connecting? >> well, the manhattan madam part admittedly might be a bit out of my expertise. but i think the hard thing that mueller has to do here and of course he's uniquely qualified, as is his team, is move from all these pieces of information, many of which have significant counterintelligence implications. what are key people doing. where is money moving. what are the connections back to russia. what malfeasance is going on. in moving from simply counterintelligence stuff, which is basically common sense suspicions and following patterns to a legal case where you can actually begin convicting people and saying, okay, the laws were broken here. i think common sensically, everybody can look back and say, look, there was a lot of no good stuff going on here. but turning that into a legal case is something that's a bit tougher. >> i do think, you know, for
roger stone, he must be looking at paul manafort right now going, you know, if they're going to build a case against me, if that's why they're interviewing the manhattan madam and they're going after me and my finances, do i really want to go through this trial -- >> so like an imposing fear? >> yes, it's sort of a warning. you know, like do you want to end up like paul manafort or cooperate and end up like michael cohen. that's a choice between a lot of these guys who are part of this investigation. i think roger stone, things are really closing in on him, and that's going to be his choice too. >> potential legal strategies here. thank you so much. appreciate you all. all right, still ahead, a letter from the president. secretary of state mike pompeo hand delivers a message from president trump to a north korean official. so what does this pen pal kind of situation say about the relationship between the two leaders? and later, the trump administration separated hundreds of children from their parents at the border.
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they're just pretty much generally saying we want to continue, we are committed. but if you look past the last week, there's been ups and downs. reports that north korea is continuing to evade sanctions, continuing to develop its nuclear program and there's a lot of rhetoric going back the last couple of days. especially in terms of north korea meeting the denuclearization, which pompeo admitted today that north korea's really setting the pace of this, that they're going to be the ones who dictate when they're going to denuclearize. >> they initiated the letter, right? and presumably it doesn't just say hi, how you doing. there must be in this kind of dialogue a tick tock of this is what we're willing to do, this is what we don't want to do, this is what we like. >> no, there doesn't have to be. you would hope that there would be and there should be. but a lot of these letters are
just kind of reaffirming the commitments that each one was willing to do. secretary pompeo has not been able to nail the north koreans down either for a time line for denuclearization or for the definition of what it actually means. it means something very different to north korea than it does to the united states. and as soon as secretary pompeo left after shaking hands with the north korean foreign minister and exchanging some pleasantries, as soon as he left that meeting of asean nations in singapore, the north korean foreign minister was blasting the united states for not lifting sanctions, for saying that it needs these type of confidence building measures. so although certainly rhetoric has improved since a year ago when it was all fire and fury, there's not a lot of progress in terms of the denuclearization. >> last hour you reported the u.s. says that north korea is evading sanctions. but what does this mean? no surprise there, right? >> it's no surprise.
but the problem is when the two leaders met and there's this agreement to kind of move forward, countries thought they could relax on the sanctions. so there's an oil ban, a petroleum ban, against north korea. now there seems to be transfers of oil, ship to ship transfers. and russia is responsible. china's responsible. they have pictures. also north korea's defying an arms embargo, trying to ship light arms place, proliferating weapons. so as the u.s. and north korea start to move closer together, countries feel that they can relax some of those sanctions and now north korea could get some of the retch knew that sanctions have been designed to put pressure to get them to give up the nuclear program. >> we'll see what's next. elise labbott, thanks so much. now to iran where the country's navy is holding military exercises in the strait of hormuz in the persian gulf and the war games come as the
trump administration is preparing to reinstate sanctions against iran and president trump and iranian leaders have spent the past few weeks exchanging threats on social media. cnn's international diplomatic editor nic robertson joining me right now. nic, no accident that iran has chosen the strait of hormuz to flex its military muscle. this is a major shipping area. what is the message being sent? >> really seems to be the message being sent that if iran so chooses, it can disrupt the world's oil fields. 20% of the world's oil passes through there. it's a major choke point effectively. and impacting one oil tanker, never mind shutting down the whole straits, would put a spike, a nasty spike into oil markets. perhaps trigger higher fuel costs for us. the reality is we don't know why iran has put these military
exercises into play right now. the timing of course right before -- in position of sanctions on them, because they've -- because president trump unilaterally pulled out of that international joint program with iran and iran's commitment to denuclearize. that really puts economic pressure on iran. so i think the indicators here are absolutely as you say they're flexing their muscles at a strategic choke point that could have huge impacts, huge economic impact, were they to push ahead with some nefarious activity. no indication that's going to happen. the iranians didn't talk about this military exercise publicly. often they do. so the moment, it's just a lot of questions around it, fredricka. >> all right, that's at the straight s of hormuz. u.s. and turkey, both of these countries have frozen the assets
of key officials. is this all over the pastor being held in turkey? >> it seems to be, though there are other issues in the background, you know, the decision to suspend the sales of f-35 fighter aircraft to turkey. that was a decision taken by the senate recently that put that decision off now to wait for a report from the pentagon in 90 days. so the turkish are not happy about that. there's turkish banking officials that are currently going through the courts because the united states accuses them of trying to get around sanctions on iran, sanctions busting there. there's differences of opinion over syria. but it does seem to be the issue. he has really brought things to a fore. earlier in the week, the united states deciding to sanction the justice minister and interior minister. we heard from turkey's foreign minister in the middle of the week, saying they would reciprocate.
despite the fact that the turkish foreign minister met with secretary of state pompeo in the past few hours and the readout from that meeting was positive, constructive that they thought they were making ground on this issue that it could be resolved in a number of days or weeks. now we hear from turkey's president today, reciprocating, as the foreign ministry warned they would, by sanctions on the turkish assets of the united states justice and interior ministers. now, obviously, the united states doesn't have justice and interior ministers and turkey hasn't yet said who these people are, but it looks like it could be attorney general jeff sessions. it looks like it could be secretary of homeland security krist kristirstjen nielsen. so the impact this would have would be minimal. but the signaling, it's not a positive development for getting him back to the united states or even out of house detention where he is now. >> nic robertson, thank you. coming up, hundreds of children and parents still apart after being separated at the
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the ones to track down parents and determine reunification eligibility, bringing kids and parents back together. a california judge rejected that request, saying the administration should be held 100% responsible. joining me right now is immigration analyst raul reyes. good to see you. while the court may have issued that ruling, is it the feeling the administration will respect that and then take the lead in trying to reunify children and parents? >> well, right now, they really do not have any options, so it does look like that the government will continue to, in the search for these children. remember, most of the children that were separated from the parents, at the point where we are right now, most of those children have been reunited with their families. the children who are at issue now are about 400, 500 children. many of their parents have been deported to central america. the problem is now the government is saying it wants to essentially abdicate responsibility for finding them and reuniting them with their
parents. now, both legally and practically, this is -- this is really just an astonishing position. because first of all, when the government took these children into its custody, it assumes a duty of care for them. unresolved issues including potential asylum cases. so the government cannot just hand them off to a third party. the fact is, the aclu has done tremendous work on behalf of these children and families. the aclu is not an arm of the federal government. so for example even if they wanted to, a group like the aclu cannot go to central america and command and work with local officials to help them find these families. they don't have that authority. they cannot go to a consulate, for example. and meet with government officials and work with them and demand that they help them find these parents. >> the judge's ruling is reminding that it's not the aclu or any other ngo group that took
intake of these kids. >> exactly. >> made any kind of, you know, record or cataloging of parents and children. but presumably based on the judge's ruling, the government would have done that. so is equipped or should be equipped to try to locate parents who have been deported or simply parents and children who have been separated. but the administration has already spoken essentially. saying it didn't do a good job of cataloging. so now why should anyone think that as a result of the government's actions, these reunifications will take place? >> well, the reunifications are going to take place for most because they have to. the judge has issued -- >> but if they didn't, if people did not do a good job of once they deported, they didn't find out how to, you know, reach that parent whose child is still in detention. why is anyone convinced, you know, that the government will then do the leg work to find a
parent who has been deported and reunify them with a child who may be in iowa, maryland, new york and in a facility in texas. >> there are about 100 children in the united states where the government doesn't know exactly where they are. the reason is because what came out of this latest hearing with the judge and the parties involved is that the government, number one, has had no plan. they're basically winging it in terms of the reunification. and there's no specific point person. what the judge said to them, the judge gave them very specific orders. number one, that the next status meeting on august 10th, the judge wants to see a specific plan. it wants a process in place. >> do you have confidence in that august 10th deadline being met? >> i think the government at this point is doing good faith efforts. but the second thing that the government asks for -- not asks for, ordered the government to do is to put a point person in place. one person to be in charge of leading this effort. because one of the big problems we're seeing leading up to this is that the agencies involved in
reuniting the children thus far, including i.c.e., the office of refugee and resettlement, dhs, their computers don't even talk to each other. they're work on databases that don't even connect. so that has hamperred the whole process immensely. the aclu has volunteers of their own volition to say they'll help the government to reach out to these families to try to make connections in central america. i want to remind people of something that's a very important practical consideration. when we talk about the reunification of parents who have already been deported. these are people who left those countries under very desperate circumstances. they left because they were afraid of gang violence or because they were maybe facing death threats. so when they go back, they're most likely in hiding or in a new location or in very remote areas. so that makes the process of finding them even more difficult. so now it seems that the judge is losing patience.
he expressed anger. he was annoyed the government has not been more on track with reunifications. hopefully going ahead the government will make a stronger effort to find these families. >> i read there have been so many cases of parents who have been deported who were told one thing only to find out that once they were deported they were not leaving with their child or they were leaving without the information in which to retrieve their child later. so there's such a variety of circumstances that it's made -- >> that's one of the other big issues that the aclu is following up on. whether the parents who have been removed from the country knowingly waived their rights or did it with full understanding of, you know, the documents that they were signing, the consequences. >> we'll leave it there for now. thank you so much. undocumented immigrants already living in the united states are facing a growing health crisis. regardless of disease, condition or disability, undocumented men, women and children essentially
cannot be treated until they are on the brink of death. our chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta has one mother's story. >> reporter: in order to really understand what's going on here, you're going to need to suspend disbelief. lucia is dying. her lungs drowning in fluid. her electrolytes are fluctuating wildly. and her heart is precariously close to shutting down. this 51-year-old mother and undocumented immigrant has end stage renal disease. full-on kidney failure. >> the function of the kidneys is to filter blood of excess toxins and excess fluid. when both kidneys stop working, people on average will live anywhere from 10 to 14 days. and so to continue living, you need some process to filter blood, which is a dialysis machine. >> reporter: for most people that treated the problem.
but here's the thing. lucia is allowed treatment only when she essentially arrives at death's door. the emergency medical treatment act of 1986 says hospitals in the united states must care for anyone with a medical emergency, regardless of their citizenship or ability to pay. but they're not obligated to prevent that emergency from happening in the first place. what is happening inside the body? >> for these patients, because they only come in once a week, instead of the three times per week, excess fluid, it stays in their body and it goes into their lungs, goes into their legs. separate from that, the toxins build up. one of the most important toxins being potassium. which at high levels can make the heart stop. >> reporter: this is no way to live. about as close to death as you can get. what's more, research shows that treating patients with emergency dialysis versus standard dialysis is nearly four times more expensive because these
patients like lucia are so much sicker when they come in for treatment. they're literally pushing themselves to the brink of death to get this treatment. am i overstating that? >> no, not at all. >> reporter: there is no question it works. lucia. just look at lucia now. after dialysis removed ten liters of fluid from her body. how are you feeling? >> translator: right now, i feel good. >> reporter: still, lucia is always worried. mostly about her family. especially her son alex. he watches his mother steadily decline every single week. this is their life. how hard has this been on your family? >> translator: it's been really hard. it's been really hard for my family. the worst is for my son. he worries about me. >> reporter: because just a few days from now, like clock work,
lucia will once again go to the precipice of death just so she can live. i'll tell you, it's unclear how long lucia can carry on like this, week after week, going to this plus businerecipice of dea. a kidney transplant would improve her life, cut down on her care costs. she is not eligible for that. she is eligible to donate her other organs whenever she passes. that is the reality of the situation for people like lucia. >> all right, sanjay gupta, thank you. still ahead, tough questions for one of college football's top coaches. what did urban meyer know about domestic dispute allegations against one of his coaches? and when did he know it?
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administrative leave. cnn correspondent cayleigh hartung is following the story for us. >> urban meyer is trying to make it clear he believes he followed the proper reporting protocols and procedures when he was aware of the allegations courtney smith was making against her then husband, his assistant coach. urban meyer is a husband. he's a father of two daughters. he's a leader of young men. and he's recognizing how he's been portrayed since the story broke. and that's as a man who was indifferent to domestic violence. who allow ed this behasslvior t on. he issued a strongly worded statement on twitter yesterday, in which he said here's the truth. while at the university of florida and now at the ohio state university, i have always followed proper reporting
protocol procedures. my elevating the issues to the proper channels. i did so regarding the zach smith incident in 2015. i take that responsibility very seriously. any suggestion to the contrary is simply false. so now i think the question broadens to not just what did urban meyer know and when but what did the university know, what did the athletic director know and what actions did they take, fred. >> and where are we in this ohio state university investigation, in what phase? >> this investigation is focused on what urban meyer himself knew and what he did, you know, when brett mccmurphy first reported this story, there was no discussion, there was very little room for debate as to whether or not courtney smith was a victim of domestic violence. she has pictures. she had text messages to prove that she endured.
now zach smith is speaking out and sharing his version of events. take a listen. >> anything that happened to her body was all just defensive movements to remove myself from the situation, and i said that's it, i'm not going to get charged because i didn't do anything wrong. >> that denial goes against the mountain of evidence against him. but, again, raise hs the questis of who knew what when. he's saying police notified the university of the allegations against him. now the university saying they have a six-member team leading this investigation who will then operate independently and report back to the board of trustees to decide what needs to happen next. i think it's a question not just of urban meyers' fate but the standing of this university on the whole. >> all right, kaylee hartung, thank you. we'll be right back. sometimes a day at the ballpark is more than just a day at the ballpark. stadium announcer: all military members stand and be recognized.
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j. lo in her latest music video about money. but ostrich wasn't even manafort's most expensive exotic skin. that would be his $18,500 python jacket. then there was the plaid, so similar to one worn by trump ex-lawer michael cohen that someone tweeted did manafort loan cohen his jacket? still, it's the ostrich jacket that has everyone craning their necks. >> it explains the first witness. >> reporter: we haven't seen manafort in it. yet someone noted this looks better wearing it. in the eyes of the ostrich, manafort is already guilty. jeanne moos, cnn -- >> does that make him guilty? >> reporter: -- new york. still ahead, president trump preparing for a rally pushing hard for a republican win in the ohio special election. what will his message be as the russia investigation swirls
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"all in with chris hayes" starts now. tonight on "all in" day >> people are saying to themselves, where we better off four years ago or are we better off now and it wasn't even close. >> the greatest confidence game ever played. >> voters believe they were better off during trump's term than biden's. >> we are not better off today than we were four years ago. >> tonight, from crime to the economy and beyond how a political party led by a criminal is conning america. then -- >> you, you are working for a felon. a felon. >> the maga scandal machine and today's contempt about for the attorney general. and the senate push to do something about the ethics crisis in the supreme court. >> the highest court in the land should not and could not have the lowest ethical standards. >> when "all in" starts right now. good evening from new york, i am chris hayes. as we approach the first debate of a presidential election season, earlier than normal between joe biden and donald trump, it is clear that trump and the republican pitch to voters is fundamentally a con job. i mean that in the most literal sense. the term comes from so-called confidence man, fixtures in the late 18th and 19th century who swindled the victims with their confidence. right now that all's bravado is the defining feature of donald trump's attempt to win back the oval office. remember, this is the man who tried to destroy our constitutional republic live on national television and who utterly failed in overseeing the one national crisis he had to guide the nation through the pandemic. and yet trump and his surrogates are constantly telling voters to ask themselves a question, are you better off than you were four years ago? >> are you better off than you were four years ago? i don't think joe biden can run on the question of are you better off than you were four years ago. >> that is one question he is praying that he never hears. are you better under four years of joe biden were four years of donald trump. >> you know, people are saying to themselves are we better off four years ago or are we better off now and it wasn't even close. >> that, by the way, was all from the past week. we have been running a series on "all in" responding to that question because the events of four years ago were so shocking, unprecedented, and traumatic. i think a lot of people, i would say most people including myself, have blocked it out. again, i get it. i don't want to think about sitting inside trying to homeschool my kids or attending zuma for my dearly departed uncle or the images of packed hospitals and dying saying goodbye to their loved ones on ipads. of course the fact that most people don't want to think too much about 2020 is an enormous advantage for republicans and the trump campaign who are attempting to pull off this con job. their aim is to kind of magically replace her memory. to distract you from the fact that four years ago we were all living in the midst of disaster. >> tonight the country has reached another sobering milestone in the coronavirus pandemic, surpassing 2 million cases and this warning sign. hospitalizations are surging in many states. >> we will start our rallies back up now. we had a tremendous run at rallies. i don't think there has been an empty seat. i think one in texas. we are going to arizona. >> texas and arizona among nine states reporting a jump in hospitalizations, the best indicator of the viruses toll. >> we are really doing a financial comeback. the jobs numbers are fantastic. >> 1.5 million people filed front employment last week, almost 43 million since the pandemic began. >> i think the economy next year will be maybe the best it has ever been. we are already seeing the stock market going up, because you have a lot of smart people betting on exactly what i'm saying. >> a selloff from wall street amid new concerns about the continuing spread of covid-19. the dow plunging more than 1800 points, its biggest drop in three months. >> a very important time in our country. a lot of things are happening and i think when it all ends up it is going to end up very good for everybody. >> there is growing concern tonight that restricting restrictions is causing an increase in covid-19 cases. >> all lives are precious, not just the people infected by covid, but also the people who are being driven to this because of the lockdown. >> what is happening in some of those places. that shut down. the poverty rate is going up. what are people going to do if they don't have jobs to go to to earn a living in order to take care of their families? that is the main reason. all of these scare tactics, they don't work this time around. they will not work. >> i should note one week after herman cain made that appearance on fox news, he attended donald trump's indoor rally. a big, indoor rally in the midst of covid in tulsa, oklahoma and by the end of june he was hospitalized with covid and died on july 30 at the age of 74. naturally every time we do one of these segments i find that looking back at four years ago brings a lot of emotion. most people divide recent history into the before times and the after times, myself included. a lot of us feel nostalgia for the before times and that is exactly what donald trump and his allies are using to build their lie about what really happened. to erase our real memories and implant false ones. that is their project and it has been unnervingly effective so far. four years ago in june, 2020 while we were living through the pandemic donald trump's approval rating was 42%. and when a new poll, 47% of americans say they approve of the job that trump did as president. it is not much, but those five points are basically the margin of the entire election and they are accomplishing that through flat out lies about what is actually happening. take a listen to missouri senator josh hawley doing this today. >> he's going to run on his record from four years ago versus biden right now. gas under president biden, up 55%. groceries, up 40%. wages down 3%. that is the campaign. that is before we get to crime, before we get to the border. >> sorry, josh hawley. wages are up. average hourly earnings are actually up 17% from may, 2020 two 2024 in nominal terms, like groceries and stuff. wages have also outpaced inflation for the past 13 months as the washington post pointed out today. crime is way down. look at what has happened with the homicide rate. in 2020 when donald trump was president, he ushered in under his presidency the largest ever one year jump, spiking 30%. by 2023 the homicide rate had tumbled 19% to 5.3 per 100,000 people. new data shows the rate continues to drop dramatically, down another 20 -- another 26% in the first quarter from the same time period last year. gas prices, are, i will admit, overall higher than they were in the summer of 2020. why were they low then? no one was traveling anywhere. okay? that is why there were cheap gas prices. refrigerator trucks full of cadavers, yeah, the gas prices were low. and they spiked up in the early part of the biden administration with the war in ukraine, but they have been trending in the right direction and continue to fall even as the summer travel season heats up. grocery prices are coming down. not just with inflation which cooled to 3.3% today, but retailers are actually slashing prices on thousands of islands. -- of items. again, they spiked during the pandemic like they did everywhere in the world, but they are on the right trajectory now and all of this is happening under the incumbent, joe biden. and we are not losing thousands of americans per day to a deadly pandemic. we do not live in a nation in the throes of constant disorder. this time four years ago we were living through the televised murder of george lloyd and the protestant police response that followed while then president trump called for sending in troops. >> across the country was started as peaceful gatherings protesting the death of george floyd evolved into destruction. from new york, where police and protesters squared off in the streets, to portland where the mayor issued a state of emergency and a city curfew. >> the nation erupted into scenes of chaos. violence. and widespread destruction into the early morning hours. in some of the nation's biggest cities, the night spiraled out of control early. >> we had to run -- rubber bullets. my cameraman has been hit. we have also seen tear gas being used. here we go again. this is exactly what it looks like. >> oh. >> whoa. >> can you hear us? >> are you okay? >> reporter: we are surrounded by the police and you saw the way that they dealt with my cameraman. we don't know who they are targeting at the moment. >> i said you have to dominate the streets. you can't let that happen and we are doing it with compassion, if you think about it. we are dominating the street with compassion. >> all that happens under the watch of president donald trump. we cannot say or hear that and if he returns to power i am telling you it is a safe bet that we will return to trauma and chaos. she is a democratic strategist who served as an advisor for the 2020 campaign. they both join me now. doug, i wanted to talk to you because in some ways history and recent history is part of what is being contested in this campaign. the legacy of the first trump year, trump term, and particularly 2020, the four years ago in the famous formulation, as a historian and historian and presidential elections, how do you see it? >> i think january 6 is such a seminal event and for the days after it seemed like trump was toast. everybody was furious that insurrectionists, but lo and behold suddenly mitch mcconnell came back to trump and lindsey graham and they sort of built this coalition and what is it? it is really anti-federal government. that is what trump represents now. that is why we are seeing the american flag hung upside down by conservative justices. and biden is trying to be part of a tradition, presidents club, of all of the other presidents. you saw on june 6, where ronald reagan is. by then saying i represent all of this and trump is sort of the anti-federal government, anger over covid. and that people still feel that their lives became topsy-turvy and they are going to punish whoever the incumbent is. so it is hard for biden to get traction even though as you said, numbers on the economy are good. we are much better off. he has shown great leadership, but communicating that to the people when there is this much frenzy on social media and hatred toward the federal government, it is an uphill battle for biden to get reelected. >> i was thinking about 2010, the elections in which of course democrats lost. the tea party uprising. a lot of that was something similar was happening. which is people were frustrated with the aftermath of the financial crisis ushered in by the republican party. democrats were the incumbent party and they took it out against the democrats and it was sort of classic like we don't like the status quo because things are bad and they were bad, but the reason they were bad is because what had been passed on. there is something similar here where the things people don't like him a totally understandably, the shocks that came out of covid were not the doing of joe biden. subsequent administrations had to fix that and people still feel frustrated with the pace that is happening. >> it's interesting that you bring up what happened in 2010 because i think of the history of the democratic party. to clean up the miss of the republican party and as democrats clean up the miss they have to message against republicans who are acting as if they want the party that let estate into it. four years ago donald trump was telling people to drink leach to cure covid while he was having superspreader events. four years ago people were in their homes watching what you just did in a montage, but we were watching that every day for 24 hours, not knowing when we would see our loved ones and then trying to figure out who we were going to vote for when it comes to the president to get us out of this. you know, policy for people to feel it in their pocket books takes a very long time and while you mentioned some great reports for the biden administration, even the global economic report this week that said the global economy is strong because the u.s. economy is getting strong, but people are not feeling that yet. that is not the fault of president biden. that is the unregulated corporations that republicans are blocking anything democrats want to do around this. this debate coming up, president biden will have to figure out how to message that as well as the surrogates and people talking about this between now and election day so people understand how they are not feeling this, even though these historic numbers are bringing us back to a place that the american people really want to be. >> you know, doug, i think that before times nostalgia is powerful and i think there is another thing in play here and i would like to get your thoughts on it. my view of trump was always that this is a person who is so unsuited to the job above all else that if and when a crisis comes it will be the worst possible response and then covid happened and it was borne out. i think a lot of people think 2020 is a mulligan. it was a meteor that hit earth and they sort of blocked out the degree of insanity in the crisis management that happened that year and i wonder if you think it is possible to remind them or people are so resistant to thinking about it. >> i think you can and it is going to be imperative that joe biden reminds people, particularly during the upcoming debate with trump. trump has gone through so many legal jeopardy moments and years have gone by and we are running it on television all the time and you have the 34 felony conventions -- convictions. even when that happens some democrats were saying don't rub it in trump's base. of course you have to rub it in his face. you have to call him a felon. biden has struggled i think with messaging in the sense of this economy that has been building. he called it a transitory pain we were having at one point and then it was bidenomics. instead they have to lay out that our economy is doing well. yes, i feel your pain at milk, groceries, gas, but he has to be the happy warrior like fdr. at times he does that. i felt that when he was in france, talking about freedom and democracy, but other times he gets in a bit of a defensive crouch. you can't be gerald ford with whip inflation now buttons. you can't be jimmy carter, the malaise or crisis of confidence. presidents get reelected with a sense of victory and optimism and better times are yet to come and obama when he ran, he had the killing of osama bin laden which gave him the foreign policy credential that people clearly understood. the revenge of the 9/11 disaster. >> the sort of past versus future -- obviously you have two individuals, one is who is 78 and the other is 81. in some ways donald trump is the recent past and i do wonder if because the past four years have been so dramatic and disruptive, people want to go back in time and that is part of the allure. >> i think people want to go back in time when there was what they felt was more certainty. with covid there was such uncertainty. the racial unrest and then we saw january 6. hindsight is 2020 and for some reason some people as though they -- people feel as though they were better under donald trump. that wasn't the case. i think we have to make sure that president biden, and i hope his campaign is listening, that he simplifies his message. he has always been the comforter right next to president obama. be that president and then talk about the ways not only has it gotten folks out of this, but he will continue to do so if they give him four more years. along with a 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weaponize what are very constitutional and serious tools that the congress has at its disposal. in this case, as you articulated, they pursued a baseless contempt resolution against the attorney general. by way of background as many of your viewers already know, the attorney general fully complied with the requests made by the congress. the department of justice produced over 90,000 pages of documents with respect to this inquiry. more by the way, chris, then the entire department of justice provided during the course of the trump administration and also produced the transcript itself of the president's conversation with the special counsel. the contextual reasons house republicans offered for purposes of the audio were clearly a smokescreen for what was a political exercise. they wanted audiotapes to use them for a campaign commercial and the attorney general cited a number of reasons why ultimately that tape could not be provided. the president invoked executive privilege and republicans in the house of course know that to be the case, but they proceeded anyway. unfortunately i think it is shameful and disgraceful and we will have to see what comes next in the clown show that they have perpetrated on the american people right now. >> you know, two things i want to note. the republican who voted against it said as a former prosecutor i cannot in good conscience support a position to score political points. the american people expect congress to work for them and solve policy problems. enough is enough. second of all i want to make sure that i have the events right. merrick garland appoints a special counsel to investigate the president. the man that he appoints is a republican who is a donald trump appointee in the justice department. this individual asks for an interview which the president voluntarily complies with i think for nine hours despite the fact that donald trump never gave an interview to robert mueller. he then uses parts of that interview to take political shots at him in the opening introduction. they release the transcript and all of this is deemed, what? partisan by the republicans? how far can you possibly go? the answer is nowhere. there is nothing you can do. >> that is the question and it is an open question. you articulated the timeline well. i would offer two amendments. one, this attorney general produced as you know the special counsel report in full, unredacted. very different compared to attorney general bill burr. i remember as we dealt with subterfuge with respect to the special counsel investigation and in this case the special counsel testified in front of my committee, as did the attorney general as recently as last week. this is a farce. house republicans know that. it is a way for them to up skate their lack of days for them to obfuscate their lack of an agenda. they prefer to spend time on these political games, which is unfortunate. >> it is not a coincidence the timing between hunter biden's 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the senate floor arguing why the ethics package should pass. senator, it is good to have you on. first, tell me what the act fix -- what the ethics package, what would it do? >> it is so straightforward, chris. it says they would have to have a binding code of ethics at least as strong as the house or senate has. what applies to the executive branch, what applies to other judges, what applies to members of the house and senate applies to the supremes as well. >> that is like what congressman raskin and ocasio- cortez were talking about. you could not do it as a senator. you could not do it as a mid- level engineer at the department of the interior and you could not do it as any other federal judge. >> chris, it is just phenomenal. think about what this looks like. it is mega yacht trips. indonesia. tuition for family members. luxury rvs. helicopter flights. you name it. $6 million of gifts over the last 20 years. here is the scenario. for an average person hauled into court and somebody sues you and you find out the person suing you has been going on fishing trips to alaska with the judge. would you think you are getting a fair shake? that there is any possibility of justice in that situation? the answer is absolutely not. that is a profoundly corrupt court and that is what we have today. >> i think, well, i don't know what the logic is but i think republicans say this is all partisan. the reason you are doing this is because you don't like the rulings in the court, you don't like the ideology, so you are trying to attack legitimacy to a road power for purely ideological and partisan reasons. >> certainly if republicans want this court to have the force that comes with integrity and respect of the american people, then they should be the first to step forward to clean up this miss. it is in fact a miss and certainly i believe that these justices on the right who were trained and selected by the federalist society to deliver power on a plate to corporations in america, are deeply, profoundly warping the constitution. in favor of corporations and against consumers and environmental laws and many other things. this issue of accepting massive gifts from people who have issues before the court, that stands on its own. separate from any dispute one might have. >> i want to redo something that sam alito said last summer in an interview with the wall street journal to a lawyer and a writer there. he said i know this is a controversial view, but i'm willing to say it, he says. no provision in the constitution gives congress the authority to regulate the supreme court, period. what do you think of that? >> it is called legislation and the constitution does give legislation power to the congress. it gives the ability to put a code of ethics on the executive branch. yes a president can veto it, but we can override that veto. certainly there was a sense of while the constitution said little about what the court system would look like, there were massive decisions made by congress to decide how the judiciary would be structured and run. so absolutely that does not pass any sort of common sense or legal examination. >> final question and quickly. on the question of having the chief justice come before the senate. he has basically blown off an inquiry from the chair of the judiciary committee who reached out to him. samuel alito has written to say i am not recusing myself. basically they are like, you are not the boss of us and we don't have to listen to anything you say. is that a tolerable equilibrium? >> it is not, because they are basically saying we have the right to be corrupt and you can't do anything about it and that deeply undermines a key institution in our country in which we need to have a sense of respect. a sense that it delivers the balls and strikes, as justice roberts once said in his confirmation hearings. right now we are getting profound conflict of interest and that is really sad to hear. chris, here is the thing. 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>> first and foremost, a ceasefire. first and foremost, a ceasefire. this is elementary. this is like when there was a ceasefire, hostages came back. now, -- they happen here and there, they are not a strategic solution to the problem of 120 people still kept in captivity. you know, during seven months of military operation israel succeeded in releasing seven hostages alive. this is, you know, a pace of one hostage a month. eight months, even. so 120 hostages would take ten years time. the hostages have no time. the sanitary conditions are nonexistent. the health is deteriorating by the day. physical and mental. and we must find a way to bring them back home as soon as possible. these are not, you know, these are not only young people, these are elderly people, grandfathers and parents and uncles and people that were taken from their beds at 7:00 a.m. on a saturday, you know, in their pajamas and barefoot sometimes, yeah. >> in the u.s., one of the things that people -- there has been kind of a joining of the notion of the war and the justness of it and doing it on behalf of the hostages. many people feel that the war is on behalf of the hostages, and people think that those, you know, who are calling for ceasefire are betraying them or forgetting about them. and you wrote this open letter that basically argued the opposite. and so for people that are -- people of good faith across the spectrum on this very contested issue, i want to hear your argument to them as a family member. >> sure, sure. first, again, a ceasefire. why? the thing that endangers the hostages the most right now, idf bombing. this has been from october 8th ongoing where my 9-year-old cousin's son was asked during an interview after he has spent 49 days in gaza captivity, he was asked what do you feel most about your grandfather still being there? without hesitation he answered the idf bombing. the idf bombing endangers the hostages, and the idf bombing, actually, we know about 14 hostages that were killed either by direct hit by the idf or, you know, as -- after an idf attack, the attackers needed to evacuate the space. they killed them, so you know, the military operation endangers the hostages. it got seven hostages out, 14, at least, dead, and this -- the whole military maneuver is not getting -- it's not for the hostages at all. it's not helping them. on the contrary, it gets them further and further away from the hostage deal, further and further away from getting united with their loved ones. because we know that the conditions for the hostage exchange or the prisoners exchange or whatever you want to call this, getting them back home is first, ceasefire. and by waging this war from day one, the israel government initiatives of this military operation is only keeping us apart, keeping us further and further apart. at the beginning it was only northern gaza, then it was rafah, and before that it was elsewhere, and we're just getting further and further apart from a solution to this problem, because the solution should start with a ceasefire. this is, you know, logical and basic. >> a spokesperson for the group of hostage, his uncle held by hamas in gaza. i can't thank you enough for making time for us. we're all thinking about you and your family. >> thank you very much. and we pray for the safe return of all of the hostages as soon as possible. this is a humanitarian issue. this is not some political issue, and people trying to make this a political issue, especially, the government trying to make this political. no, this is a humanitarian crisis. and everything should be done to get them back as soon as possible. thank you very much. >> that is all in on this wednesday night. alex wagner tonight starts right now. good evening, alex. >> 250 days, just unbelievable this is where we are. thank you, my friend, as always. so i want to start with a story that in any other universe would have absolutely nothing to do with politics or anything even approximating controversy. the kind of news we all used to read or hear and accept. but in the post-trump era, this
you can make that case. here's the thing. the wnba and its leadership have complained for years and years and years pay attention to us. grow the game. we need more. we need. this and well now they have it and they have it in caitlin clark. you are telling me the second best betting favorite is belgium. the three of us, two retired players and my wife could beat belgium for crying out loud. it's not like you bring caitlin clark on the team and this is some charity case. are you kidding me? caitlin clark on that team brings more eyeballs the wnba has been begging for more eyeballs and they haven't gotten them and they got it wrong in case. >> todd: "fox & friends" begins right now. they could use you. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> steve: thank you very much, todd and carley. it is 6:00 here in new york city. it's 5:00 in dallas and this is the "fox & friends" for wednesday, june 12th, 2024. you saw it on our air live yesterday. hunter biden convicted on all three federal gun charges. you may have missed this unless you were watching another channel. >> this has to be, as a parent, the worst nightmare come true. >> most people see this and feel sympathy. >> this trial was so personal and so painful. >> ainsley: and 8 suspected terrorists with ties to isis are arrested and a nationwide sting operation and it won't come as a surprise. they crossed the border illegally. >> lawrence: that's the top issue for folks from my home state of texas. seeing brian there to get the pulse of the people. brian? >> brian: thank you very much. i am brian kilmeade and it is lawrence jones sitting in my seat. more on that later. i'm at. >> lawrence: you are in my state. >> brian: really thinking, lawrence, you can't interrupt a cold open it's against the law. >> ainsley: he has to defend himself. >> brian: and now you are doing it, ainsley? >> steve: let me do it for you, brian. [laughter] >> lawrence: did he say get dressed? >> ainsley: get dressed. and mornings are better with friends, brian. [laughter] >> steve: okay, more with brian in a minute but, first, a fox news alert. president biden is about to take off for italy in just about an hour from now for the annual g-7 summit in italy. >> lawrence: here at home concerns of terror threats crossing our southern border are becoming a reality as sources say 8 suspects with possible ties to isis are arrested after being released into the country. >> ainsley: lucas tomlinson joins us now with the latest. lucas lucas good morning, guys not only did they enter illegally through the southern border they apparently received, quote, full vetting according to our own bill melugin, suspects are from tajikistan the land locked country infantry in central arab borders afghanistan to the south and china to the east. recall the same suspects on that concert hall killed 45 people. those people were also from tajikistan. said in a statement to fox fbi says the individuals are detained in ice custody pending removal proceedings as the fbi and dhs recently described public and private bulletins heightened environment. dhs continue working around the clock with our partners to identify, identify and disrupt potential threats to national security. the suspected terrorists were arrested in los angeles and across the country in new york and philadelphia as well in recent days according to the "new york post" who broke the story, quote: part of the investigation featured a wiretap which revealed one of the now arrested individuals was talking about bombs. remember the boston marathon bombing, i'm afraid something like that might happen again or worse fbi director christopher wray warned lawmakers back in april what he described as threat coordinated attack after the moscow massacre those suspects were from tajikistan like the suspects here. >> ainsley: i know they weren't flagged when they walked across the border when they came across the border. they were let. in once they were here, what led them to realize these guys were terrorists? >> lucas: it appears there was wiretaps. >> ainsley: what made them go to that point? what made them wiretapped? >> lucas: americans being surveilled. apparently picked up. also somebody could have called in a potential threat for these guys and people were warned. this is the problem americans have been worried that something like this might be happening for years now. as millions of unvetted and illegal immigrants cross the southern border. >> lawrence: so luke's, the question is the president released his executive action last week and banning some countries and all of that did they know about this before they released that executive action or did this come afterwards? >> lucas: these guys have been on the radar now for a few weeks, lawrence. safe to say, before. >> steve: indeed. luke's, thank you very much. and keep in mind, he just mentioned christopher wray, the director of the fbi was in front of congress in april. and he was talking about a potential coordinated attack after what happened in that concert hall. our joint task force keeping an eye on everybody. i bet a dollar to doughnuts something popped up on one of the people were surveil surveilling. oh they are in the united states. joint task force alerted ice they swept them up in new york, philly and washington, d.c. >> lawrence: brian, the fbi director has been talking about these lights flickering all over the board. he said that he is concerned brian they thought their executive orders -- they think their executive orders are going to do it. so far no discernible difference between prior and current with the executive orders. got to worry about all the stans, these guys are coming from outlaw provinces moscow and don't have love loss for us. it's really got to be cancer. if you are christopher wray. you know the danger but it doesn't seem to be relayed to the people in charge and the border patrol seems flat out overwhelmed. i also thought it's interesting, too, that we're seeing the flood of immigrants come through san diego now, california, but they knocked it down 72% in texas at the cost of $11 billion with operation lone star. texas is doing it themselves because the federal government is not. >> steve: that's right. great point, brian. that's one of the reasons you are down in texas. meanwhile, border patrol, ainsley to your point, border patrol let them in. these people, because they presented id but apparently those particular names didn't click on the data base. and border patrol says we know people slip through all the time but we simply don't have enough time to fully vet them. if there is 300 people waiting in line. it's kinds of like how long is this going to take? okay, go. >> lawrence: just a revolving door right now. this is what happens when you have zero strategy and zero enforcement. they want to be out here going after these guys. they want to be going after the drug traffickers. they have been forced to baby-sitted. they didn't sign up to be cops to be babysitters. >> ainsley: here is what is scary. the borders are open. millions have come across. this just 8 men that were caught. just 8. >> lawrence: that we know. >> ainsley: how many here that we don't know about that are planning attacks here. hats off to the people did recognize. this had the wiretaps. but this administration, this is a crisis from washington. this is joe biden's crisis. he has left the door open. now he is trying to do something about it because he realizes democrats and republicans are concerned about this. not just republicans anymore. and we're close to an election. >> steve: thank you very much, law enforcement. ainsley, speaking of joe biden. >> ainsley: right now, president biden is in delaware after traveling to see his son after his convince on fall gun charges, hunter biden now awaits sentence iting as his attorney vows to exauction all legal options. >> lawrence: brooke singman is here with the latest. >> the jury found the first son guilty on all counts for lying about his drug use while buying a gun. sentencing date has yet to be scheduled. hunter is now facing a hefty fine of $750,000 in a maximum of 25 years in prison. although he is unlikely to do any prison time here since is he a first time offender. special counsel david wise who brought the charges against him spoke after the verdict. listen. >> this case was not just about addiction. this case was about the illegal choices defendant made while in the throws of addiction. his choice to lie on a government form when he bought a gun and the choice to then possess that gun. it was these choices and the combination of guns and drugs that made his conduct dangerous. >> president biden is seen here hugging hunter in delaware after the verdict. the president spoke yesterday about gun safety after his son's firearm conviction but did not mention hunter's case. watch this. >> asses second amendment. never been a time you could own anything you want. never. you couldn't own a cannon during the civil war. [laughter] >> no, i'm serious. think about it. how much have you heard this phrase? the blood of liberty. [laughter] >> give me a break. >> one of the jurors speaking out about the trial. listen. >> biden was on trial and he was just like anybody else. nobody is above the law. >> yeah. >> no matter how are. politics played no part in this whatsoever. >> it may not have been a political decision by the jury, but it will likely have political ramifications. former senior adviser to president barack obama david axelrod saying, quote: i don't think voters are going to hold biden accountable for his son's addiction or his son's misbehavior, but i think the real question is the toll it takes on him and his family. this is another heavy brick on the load. the first son is also facing another federal trial, which is expected to begin in september. over allegedly failing to pay over a million dollars in taxes. those taxes have since been paid and hunter biden has pleaded not guilty. guys? >> steve: all right, brooke. thank you very much. the cover of "the new york post." first felon faces up to 25 years after historic verdict. and i heard on one of the other channels that apparently, you know, the jury got the case a couple days ago at 3:30 in the afternoon. they deliberated for about an hour. >> lawrence: they were 50/50. >> steve: it was split 6-6. a couple hours into the second day they were like, okay. he broke the law. and here's the thing. we knew he had broken the law because he signed that thing. and we know he put that x there. so it's one of those things where if he were not convicted on this, what does it take to get arrested and convicted in delaware? >> lawrence: when you look at the other channels and look at their conch of it, there is this reaction to compare what happened here and the justice system what happened to trump. and they say this is the legal system doing what it does this. is the right thing. but, i think they skipped the important step, this wasn't going go to trial at first, this was not -- there was unprecedented deal, and if they weren't shamed, both the prosecution as well as the defense with this deal, then we wouldn't have been here. now, you take that versus donald trump where you have unprecedented prosecution. not unprecedented deal. and i think there is a clear difference judicial system shouldn't be shamed. i get that everybody has someone, probably. i know i have family members that have struggled with addiction. >> steve: yep all of our family members should be treated the same it. looks like hunter biden is finally being held accountable like most americans would have ainsley. >> and, brian, we will bring you into this, too. the trump campaign said this is just a distraction from the real crimes, the real crimes are the biden family which has raked in tens of millions of dollars from china, raush and ukraine. what we learned in this court case the laptop really was hunter biden's. we knew that before. this is additional verification of that. which means we were lied to by those 51 intel individuals that signed that letter back before the election and joe biden. who lied to us about it. anbc, and cnn and npr who lied about it. social media individuals or social media platforms that were censoring this story so it didn't get out before the election. it's not just about addiction and lying on a government form. this goes beyond that the cover-ups. the money that the biden family possibly made from all of this. before the election. and burying a story so that you didn't know about it. you, the public, the voter didn't know about it before the election, brian. >> brian: yeah. a couple of things. number one out of everything on that laptop it's absolutely insane the one thing they get is the gun charge. on unsavory behavior that's witnessed there they all told us we are crazy for believing and definitely effected the 2020 election. also i think it's important this guy kevin morris who is funding all his legal defenses out of money. how do i know that's not hype. his daughter raised to hunter biden you are taking advantage of my dad who is writing checks for you. yeah. his dad is the president of the united states. he can't write the checks. but some obscure producer who made money early on and a sitcom nobody watches could empty his account for a guy who can't get off crack and obviously loves hookers. other thing is, the big story is coming up in the fall is going to be the tax case. and what about the made for tv moment, i'm sorry, my heart does not go out to joe biden who has to go back to his house and stand in front of his driveway and hug his son who got convicted of a buying a gun and having haley biden throw it out while, by the way an hour before he was telling us the need for gun control. who booked that gig for him the day his son is actually. >> lawrence: that was so dumb. >> brian: actually convicted of a gun violation. the dumbest thing ever but smart to have the hug in the driveway so msnbc has something to talk about. and they want to say it's no dual path to justice and trump got convict and he got convicted. it's totally different. this guy actually scripted his conviction seven years ago. they made up charges on donald trump and didn't even tell us the charges until they handed it over to the jury. and when you come up and speak about a jury decision and don't like it, that's called an american free move to do. you are not being anti-american by criticizing a jury decision. is everyone happy with the way the o.j. decision came out. are you anti-american by saying o.j. pretty much got away with murder? no, i don't think so. so, yesterday really bothered me he comes off as a sympathetic figure where everything he has done is his own personal behavior. >> lawrence: speaking of that, brian, this is the media's reaction to that watch. >> this has to be as a parent the worst nightmare come true. joey and joe biden have been role models for parents of addicted children. >> you are seeing sort of -- such a sad day on personal level, but you are seeing such an uplifting day in terms of sort of heroic action in terms of what it means to live a principle. >> republicans have really struggled to make this line of attack stick because most people see this and feel sympathy. >> it is not an unfair verdict. they followed the law. but it's a sad verdict. >> this trial was so personal and so painful for the biden family. the details in this case, sarah, as you well know are really ugly and they are really sad. >> brian: we don't have audio here but just know, guys, that msnbc and cnn says it's a very sad day for the biden family which is true but it's all self-inflict and we will see how you guys feel about it. we are in cubey's in dallas. get the pulls of the people. what is your name? >> marlow. >> brian: what is your opinion on the hunter biden decision. >> one, you mentioned sympathy. i'm wholly in agreement with you. if he had been doing crack cocaine or had an addiction for decades before his brother died, why would i feel sympathy? it had nothing to do with his brother dying. as far as the verdict, it's appropriate, he probably won't get jail time but he should get three felonies? what about one month each. other people go to jail for committing that crime. >> brian: because you guys are very aware of gun laws, especially in texas, right? >> right, absolutely. >> brian: what did you order, sir? >> well, the breakfast croissant. >> brian: is that croissant underneath those layers of eggs and ham. >> brian: oh my goodness need a plunger to open up his aorta later. what's your name. >> bob burns. bob burns fans, ladies and gentlemen. weighs convicted on three separate counts. shows you that justice is indeed equal because same thing happened to trump. what's your reaction? >> well, i bet you everybody in this room knows somebody or their family member has been addicted to something in their life. and all i heard yesterday on the other networks was real sympathy towards -- towards hunter. no sympathy from our family. you get what -- you make your choices and you deal with your consequences. >> brian: also, what about the arrogance of showing up on the congressional steps and having a mini press conference and storming into a hearing he said he wasn't going to be at. he was grand standing prior to this. and he has got another case staring at him and sentencing somewhere in between. this is not the top priority of people here in dallas. do you know what is? immigration, border security, political corruption and inflation. [cheers and applause] >> brian: we will talk about all of that back to you guys on the couch. we are here at kuby's getting a pulse of the people. >> steve: that is a great place. my daughter went to school across the street. deli counter. they have the best chicken salad in dallas i feel. >> ainsley: i love good chicken salad, too. that's a southern thing, isn't it? delicious. turning now to some of your headlines, a crazed man hijacks a bus and leads police on a wild pursuit through atlanta yesterday. look at that the suspect allegedly holding a gun to the driver of that bus' head during the pursuit and one of the 17 hostages was shot and killed. atlanta's mayor placing the blame on the availability of guns. >> too many guns on our streets. too many guns in our homes. too many guns in our schools, buses, et cetera. crime is down overall. violent crime is down. this day is not indicative of all of the days of the city of atlanta. >> this is a day we will never forget. >> ainsley: the suspect, who is a convicted felon with 19 prior arrests, was eventually taken into custody after police disabled the bus. 19 priors? it's the guns, right. 60 survivors of the sandy hook elementary school shooting will be graduating from high school in newton, connecticut, new town connecticut, today. back in 2012 when they were first grade. 20 of their classmates and sex educators were killed by deranged gunman one spoke out about their state of mind. >> since kindergarten, graduate. we can't forget about a whole chunk of our class missing. so going into graduation we all have very mixed emotions. >> ainsley: bless their hearts. double that they were in first grade. the school shooting victims will be honored during today's ceremony. very nice. nypd officers arresting a brooklyn man accusing him of smashing several religious statues outside of the catholic church. they say he took a hammer to the statues of mother teresa and the catholic pope on monday. then he broke the church's doors and damaged two glass bus shelters. he is facing a series of charges. but no word if he will be charged with a hate crime. to some primary results now. south carolina congressman -- or congresswoman nancy mace defeating both of her challengers in the congressional republican runoff. in nevada, trump-backed army veteran sam brown winning his primary race to challenge incumbent democratic senator jacky rosen. brown joined us yesterday. >> nevadans are hurting. the american dream is at risk. and people are looking for some hope. i know the power and the importance of hope when all seems lost. as it was my own soldiers who came to my rescue in 2008 when i was wounded delivering hope to me by saying sir, i've got you. >> ainsley: and in maine former nascar driver austin theriault wins his primary rails. and in north dakota kelly armstrong take over for doug burgum as the republican candidate in the state's gubernatorial election in november. also, in north dakota, voters deciding to impose a maximum age limit on members of congress from their state at 81 years old. and check out this wild drone footage of a hammerhead shark lurking in the waters off of st. petersburg, florida. >> steve: don't fall in. >> ainsley: paddle borders kept their cool as a group hunt the harr pin fish. scramble to get back on the shore. the owner of the company that rents those boards thankfully hammer medicines generally steer clear of people and attacks are very uncommon. those are your headlines. >> lawrence: i love when they say that it's uncommon. >> steve: it just takes one. >> lawrence: we want to be the one they experiment with. >> steve: the weather down there very warm and that leads us to this. >> lawrence: fox weather alert. miami beach and other parts of florida seeing major flooding. >> ainsley: sunshine state is going to get even more rain this week as a tropical disturbance through the region. >> steve: check in with the senior meteorologist janice dean for the fox weather forecast. i heard some spots in florida could get two feet of rain. >> janice: this is 9011. hurricane season is here. don't think this going to get a name but it is going to move out across the florida peninsula and in towards the atlantic. and the bottom line is it doesn't take a named storm to cause a lot of problems. heavy rain in the forecast for several days for parts of central and south florida. and we could see an additional foot or more of rain that's going to cause tremendous flooding in some of these areas. look at the fort myers area and naples area that's 8 to 12 right there and they already received in some cases close to a foot of rain there is the rain still to come 8 to 12 aren't the fort myers areas. that's going to be the story we are following as well as the heat fox weather.com for all of your latest details. over to the couch. >> steve: all right, j.d., thank you very much. straight ahead on the program the liberal activists who recorded justifiable alito and his wife and chief justice roberts speaks out why she did. >> it nothing illegal in d.c. about recording people. >> please tell me how we are going to get answers when the supreme court has been shrouded in secrecy. ♪ it's kubota orange days, shop the year's biggest selection of kubota equipment and get 0% apr for 84 months or up to $3,300 off select compact tractors. find your nearest dealer at kubotaorangedays.com. somebody would ask her something and she would just walk right past them, she didn't know they were talking to her. i just could not hear. i was hesitant to get the hearing aids because of my short hair. but nobody even sees them. our nearly invisible hearing aids are just one reason we've been the brand leader for over 75 years. when i finally could hear for the first time, i could hear everything. call 1-800-234-7090 to schedule a free hearing evaluation and unlock our best deal of the year! oh no. running low? 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[cheers] >> joey, joey. >> steve: oh joey, joey. we have loved him for decades now, perhaps, his reign as the greatest of all time competitive eater. >> lawrence: we still love him. he just has to get it together. >> steve: is done he won't be competing on the fourth of july. he signed a contract with a competitor. signed a contract with impossible foods. the lead maker of the meatless meat products like the impossible burger. the hot dogs he signed with are made from plants. >> lawrence: this is what they are saying in the statement to the major league eating. we are devastated to learn that joey chestnut has chosen to represent a rival brand that sells plant based hot dogs rather than competing in the 2024 nathan famous fourth of july hot dog eating contest. >> janice: this is tragic. i was a judge, an esteemed judge a couple years ago. one of the greatest moments of my life, really. >> ainsley: top of the resume. >> steve: i'm going to put that on your wikipedia page. >> janice: it's a huge event. without him are thousands of people going to come to coney island? i don't think so. but i think it hurts joey chestnut more. >> lawrence: do you? >> janice: yes, absolutely. if you remember a couple decades ago. co-barbie. nathan's hog dog eating contest made him the person he was. he decided not to sign a contract. whatever happened to him? we never heard from him again. >> ainsley: in 2021 joey ate 76 dogs and the buns, just to compare it. i read that another guy was eating about 49 hot dogs. so number two guy is probably thrilled by. this now he has a shot. >> janice: right. honors lawrence real quickly this is what joey is saying on x. this is the decision nathan and the major league eating are making. it will deprive the great fans of the holiday usual joy. >> janice: who can blame them. >> lawrence: rest assured you will see me eat again soon. stay hungry. i don't think if you are in a contest of eating it should be plant based at all. >> janice: that's another topic all together. >> ainsley: making more money. >> steve: still a hot dog not made the traditional nathan's way. ultimately the headline is he will not be a weaner. [laughter] >> steve: i not relish saying that. >> janice: you have been waiting. >> steve: i have been playing ketchup. >> ainsley: if joey decides. >> janice: make it more popular. >> lawrence: maybe brian can get to the bottom of this. >> steve: is he a guy who likes to be frank. [laughter] >> lawrence: that was really good. >> brian: if we have to blow a commercial. any news at all on it interrupt my interview. we need to spend more time on it if we could. let me tell you about what is going on now. this is going to be big. it's one of the most replayed moment in sports history. you have all seen it not even sports. buzzer beating dunk. jim gets a winning college championship to win the 1983 ncaa, nc state had cinderella year. now they are suing 10 members of that team claim co-conspirator have systematically and intentionally misappropriated the cardiac parks publicity rights including their names and likenesses. this just the beginning, guys. now joining to us discuss this and so much more is a dallas favorite. he still lives here after winning three super bowl championships for the dallas cowboys. he is now the ufl president, ceo darryl moose johnson. round of applause, guys. here at kuby's restaurant. so you are oshould the # 3 team be paid. they are in their 50's and 60's. >> first group. we had undefeated college football game 1987, doug flutie moments. so many iconic moments in sports how many more people are going to step forward now. >> brian: this is ruining college sports. i feel bad nobody was paid back then and education was a wash. you give me an education just go play sports. billions are in there. we are going to be playing football players and basketball players back to 2016. what's going to be left of the college sports that we know? >> i think it may go away. we were fortunate to grow up in a time where college sports was on par with professional sports. and i don't think we are going to see that moment again. i think it becomes professional sports now. it's going to be basketball and football. the future of the smaller sports is what i'm concerned about and the impact title # had. because they never matched it with football there was no women's football on the college campuses. why do you try to match scholarships offered when you can't find a way to keep football out of that equation. >> brian: everyone is getting paid. who hasn't been paid will be paid soon. as would you know you made the transition from nfl p pro bowler to executive. you merge the usl and xfl on the precipice of the championship game. going to be in st. louis. it's going to be 5:00. fox will cover it. on the game joel klatt and kurt men fee. this matchup with birmingham and san antonio. >> great first season. the merger came together late in the process. we navigated that the football has been outstanding and shame on us if we didn't pull that off. we went from 18 teams or 16 teams down to 8 teams so the talent level has been great, depth in the offensive line. great quarterback play. great ratings, anxious for this game. the only loss birmingham has had all season long has been to san antonio brahmas in week 9. rematch 18-9. everybody come out and join us st. louis. >> brian: i love that the merger worked and i think some type of relationship with the nfl is inevitable. between 27 and 30 players already invite ford tryouts with the nfl. i think that's important, also,ment fact is skip holtz against wade phillips. two famous names, famous coaches, famous football families. darrell, the bigger question is, are your cowboys ever going to get back to the super bowl again? [laughter] , the last time they were in it, you were playing in it. [ applause ] >> i think the community has been so excited to see the stars and the mavericks have that success. everybody is ready for dallas. it's been almost 30 years now. hopefully that's their turn this fall. we will see what happens. yeah, i just don't know why we can't get over that hump. every season. we play well throughout the regular season but then we fall short in the playoffs. >> brian: mavericks down 0-2. are they going to come back and win this thing against the celtics? nba championship. darryl is going to go do a boot camp workout. darryl, thank you so much. >> welcome great to see. welcome to dallas. >> brian: guys, more from kuby's in just a moment. "fox & friends" continues, texas and new york. ♪ ♪ scout is protected by simparica trio and he's in it to win it! simparica trio is the first chew with triple protection. whoa fleas! and ticks! 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>> you know, i'm a combat veteran. grew up in the shenandoah valley. and, you know, like most women, i have an experience that far exceeds just who i am as a woman. so, i think that we need fresh voices in congress overall right now. we definitely need some change. my district has been represented by democrats 141 years. we don't just need women but rim bring fresh voices and change and really want to represent their people. nancy, how about you? why are you running and why is it important to elect republicans now to congress and females. >> this election is going to be consequential. in alaska specifically we have been hit so hard by the things this administration has done. president biden has issued over 60 executive orders that are basically trying to shut our state down. we are oil and gas and mining state minerals that the entire country needs. not just for production but national security. if we don't have those things in our country and we have to rely on other countries we have got to have a change in d.c. we have got to have president trump back in office. we need to get the course reversed that we are on. you know, i went to the yuma border several weeks ago and i witnessed with my own two eyes the officers who were there how demoralizing for them to have to act as a baby-sitter and social worker for these people coming across the border illegally our country has no security with open borders. we have none. it effects us even here clear up to alaska. the fentanyl coming into this country is making its way up here. last year, unfortunately, alaska had the highest rate of per capita of overdose fentanyl deaths in the entire country, totally unacceptable. i'm not going to stand for it. i'm going to washington, i'm going to fight for our state. and for our country care lien, i know you are representing alabama. it's important for you to win your race and to her point there were 8 suspected terrorists that were just arrested. they are on the terrorist list talking about making bombs. they are here in the u.s. and came through our border. >> no. it's it's incredibly terrifying and that's why i'm running to fight for alabama families to fight for american families and that's why it's so important to elect republican women because we understand the struggles that american families are going through. we'll understand the way that biden's reckless border policy has jeopardized our security and we're in a position to fight for and represent american families and try to get our country back on track. i don't know how you do it i know being a working mom. i'm here in new york. for y'all you have to travel to d.c. often. thank you so much for doing this for country. god bless. more "fox & friends" coming up. the future is not just going to happen. you have to make it. and if you want a successful business, all it takes is an idea, and now becomes the future. a future where you grew a dream into a reality. it's waiting for you. mere minutes away. the future is nothing but power and it's all yours. the all new godaddy airo. get your business online in minutes with the power of ai. i look back with great satisfaction on my 32 years in active duty. i understand the veteran mentality. these are people who have served. they've been in leadership positions. they're willing to put their life on the line if necessary. and they come to us and they say, i need some financial help at this point in time. they're not looking for a handout. they're looking for a little hand up. my team at newday usa is going to do everything we possibly can to make sure that veteran gets that loan. no one takes care of veterans like newday usa. ♪ ♪ have you always had trouble losing weight and keeping it off? 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staying, sir the georgia congressional candidate who just walked off the stage in the middle of a debate all right 6:00 a.m. here in washington alive. >> look at the us capitol on this tuesday morning good morning, everyone and kasie hunt. it's wonderful to have you with us samuel alito's private beliefs apparently exposed in a secretly recorded audio tape, the conservative supreme court justice seeming to endorse a fight to return our country to a place of godliness and quote it was a liberal activist and filmmaker who secretly recorded the justice and his wife at a supreme court historical society dinner earlier this month people in this country, we're leaving that, keep fighting to return our country to a place the bottling names. >> i agree with important to underscore during that dinner, the activists misrepresented herself. she claimed to be a religious conservative the executive director of the supreme court historical society issued this statement on monday saying, quote, we condemn any sort surreptitious recordings of justice's at the event which is inconsistent with the entire spirit of the evening. attendees are advised that discussion of current cases, cases decided by current sitting justices or justices, jurors, pure prudence is strictly prohibited and may result in forfeiture of membership in the society earlier. in the conversation, the activist told alito that she didn't think that the right could negotiate with the left. >> here was his response one. >> side or the, other. >> there can be a way of working, our way of living together it's different because they're differences fundamental things that really can't comment so it's not like you're going to see what the difference a little hard to hear their finals here. >> molly ball, senior political correspondent at the wall street journal, meghan hayes, former special assistant to president biden, and matt gorman, the former senior adviser to the tim scott presidential campaign. welcome to all of you molly ball. >> this of course, i think underscores the pressure that alito is at the moment in our highly charged political environment where the justices are about to decide whether or not donald trump is immune in the january 6 case clearly, he's in a situation where he is responding in the affirmative to someone he is encountering at a party and yet the remarks are still illuminating in terms of how he thinks about things. yeah. i mean, i think as you said on the one hand, we've all done the thing where someone approaches you that you don't know and you just kinda play along. you just sort of say you're agreeing with whatever it is that they're saying. i'm either end it's no surprise to anyone that he's a conservative right, and that he does view, society as, as somewhat corrupted by a lack of godliness or i wouldn't be surprised to hear him say any of those things in a judicial opinion for example. so it's all pretty broadly consistent with the judicial philosophy and the political philosophy that we know that he subscribes to. i think also the fact that the recording is coming out tells you that increasingly the supreme court is being treated as another political branch of government. the people are sending trackers after them basically like they would with a political candidate monitoring their every utterance and looking through it for potentially damaging or politically useful bits of audio that, that can be used against them in what's essentially become a full-time political campaign. and that i think as we and others have reported, has contributed to a very high level of tension and division on the court itself has made it increasingly difficult to function. >> yeah, it's it's speaking of division on the court itself. >> i mean in this highly fraught moment that we find ourselves in as a country where there does seem to be this kind of looming question about violence. certainly we have had more violence in our politics in recent years than we had seen in another monitor campaigns with what happened on january 6, john roberts was also approached by this activist and he approached this very differently and it underscores a little bit of tension on the court as molly was just touching on. again, john roberts, appointed by george w bush. he is the chief justice. he is also a conservative but has carved out a much different kind of role for him self on the court. so when he was approached by this activist and some of these same themes of godliness. the question i believe was is the us a christian nation? >> here's how john roberts responded since i put here a little 20 years, i've been quieter times but the idea that the court is in the middle of a lot of tumultuous stuff going on. that's nothing new. >> the civil war, we did that very vietnam. you people getting killed and i was there. >> this is all right. i mean, it's it's not all right. but it's not like it's dramatic medically different people that's a common thing. people, their own perspective like this is so slow ordinary i don't know. >> heed the christian nation question. robert's actually responded that he has jewish friends, muslim friends who might disagree with that. he went on to talk about it a little bit, but megan haze, there. he was saying he was talking about other cataclysmic periods in our history, the civil war vietnam basically saying that we're going to be all right in the end. what is your view of all of this? and the way it's an unfolded, but particularly this difference between alito roberts here. yeah. i mean, i do think that we're gonna be all right. our democracy is built to survive and hopefully it will survive regardless of who wins the election in november. but i do think that there is a difference here, and i think that there was a difference. if you listen to alito's wife and how she responds and her reaction system of the questions that she got are also extremely stark. and so just just goes to show how these justices are thinking and how that they are forming their opinions. and it is, it is quite different and it is jarring when you hear their responses. >> let's listen to a little bit of what martha alito also who was approached by the same activist again, here's a little bit of what she had to say you know what i want i want sacred heart of jesus flag because i had to look cross the lagoon at the pride flag for the next month. >> exactly and he's like, oh, please don't put several my heritage come after me away. it doesn't have to be away. >> debris don't worry about it okay. >> she also said that justice alito doesn't control her at one point. but you don't seem to admit their that he did ask her not to put up a flag in this case. >> definitely go we put the flag up let me look at this whole thing. i saw on twitter the person lauren windsor put up, that this is gonna be a big undercover storage tweeted out, tease that out. before it came out. and then when it came out like this, this is what this is. i mean, this was the same person that was the one reported by the intercept who sent the kind of democratic activists to charlottesville, dresses neo-nazi would tiki torches to kind of stand outside the glenn youngkin's yvette. but with the lincoln project. so i'm not getting i'm not surprised by this, but i will say that i think a lot of what molly said his right. it's also just his religious philosophy makes no bones that he's a devout christian now, i was at church over the weekend and a lot of those same themes. it's country but more about the world gold and sin and godliness. those same themes or what kinda prevalent. church, i'm really not surprised. >> i mean, i think that the piece of it that i really i got caught on was where he seems to go on and say that there may not be a way to resolve these differences ever, which i suppose is part of what you're saying. >> i mean, it's it's again, i think we stepped back from the politics of it. i think the way the christians look at it is sin and whatever faith i'm not putting it very eloquently. the priesthood better job in his homily over the weekend. >> but but no, i think that is more of the way that he was talking about it for me again, he's devout christian. >> i don't really see what the the big thing is, megan, but these people, i just think our supreme court justices sort of need to rise above this. and i agree with molly that like we've all been in a situation where you just like nod and say, but he went further and then when his wife's comments, it just shows that like they're they're not viewing themselves as above and making laws for our country. >> it was his faith like it was not, it was not about politics. they're talking to say, it also she was goading him. she would want to introduce scholarliness into it. she was the one that he's just agreeing. >> yeah, i agree. like it's these ideas weren't germinated on their own. she was leading him. >> i don't agree with what she did. i think it's terrible and i think both sides do it and i think it's awful. i don't think we'd be putting a lot more women pre haven't talked about project verisign's 09 and rightfully so i'm fine, but the amount of media saturation i didn't read the new york times is covering this now it's ridiculous. who would never do this. it was james o'keefe and practice, but that's not true. but i just think we owe nine we haven't done a sense so charade with acorn, that was the last time we actually my diary. i think we all project or testis sorry, because very, very different when there was a negative garrett ziegler who is sitting in court that clearly act when there was a new york times article on straight reporting, what was it ashley biden's journal. i don't remember it. >> like there was with this. >> i will be honest in this particular question, but i do think the big picture here. i mean, i think you guys are actually both an agreement what people should do is not correct this you know, i just i think molly to the big picture point this really underscores even farther just the significance of the moment that we are facing as a country, the role of the supreme court in our politics. >> it's been historically viewed as an institution that's supposed to be above all this i think those of us who cover this realize it's been political for awhile, but now the country is really starting to see that. >> all right, coming up next, donald trump meets with probation officers while his campaign asks potential vp candidates if they ever committed a crime. >> plus the dog days arriving early, millions of americans facing sweltering heat in this this is where i get back in my trunk and head make the southwest georgia. >> the congressional candidate who walked off the stage and went home in the middle of a debate hey, guys, i got spoken about got it right up do, we, have one to leave works all day? >> so i can keep working to take just one 12 hours of uninterrupted pain-related i'll leave you do you take 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what we laugh. >> i know we laugh. it does it does make sense why you'd ask that. i mean, it does it does. >> i did the first of that of paul ryan when it was selecting his vp we're at the point now, where you're bringing in not just the candidate, but the family, the accountants, the lawyers, and you are asking we were just trying to get to the central question. number one, do we know everything about this person that we need to know? number one and number two if we don't, what is it that we don't know and trying to get that. so the candidate, no matter who it is, can evaluate and make a decision because let's face it this way, right? >> we know trump is indicted on four things, felt guilty on 153 others, right? in the limited space, we don't want a new one coming out all of a sudden that they can't price in that they don't have an awareness of. it does seem like an acknowledgment that committing crimes as bad, which the president has so far not seemed to want to cop to i don't think 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hadi continued to use narcotics smoke, crack every 15 minutes throughout 2018 and decided not to buy a gun. >> we wouldn't be here in this courtroom. >> choices have consequences. and that's why we're here later. hunters defense attorney argued the prosecutors case was similar to a magician's trick, adding quote, there is nothing there. joining me now from wilmington, delaware is alex thompson, the national political reporter for it? axios, who has been covering this trial day in and day out. alex, wonderful to see you how just catch us up with what you saw in court yesterday during these closing arguments. and i want to dig into how the family in particular is playing into this because my understanding is the jurors were told not to be intimidated by the fact that it's the families the president of the united states yes. >> so yesterday you saw bolt very lengthy closing arguments, i believe abbe lowell hunter biden's lawyer when for about 87 minutes and then the prosecution got two shots at it and they probably got about the same about 87 minutes. and to your other points the prosecution said, if they have not proven that hunter biden was a crack addict than no one is a crack addict. and it got a little chip between the two sides. abbe lowell at one point said that the prosecution had been quote enormously cruel two naomi biden hunter biden's daughter, the president's granddaughter, and how they cross-examined tr the government came right back and said it was then who put her on the stand that put her in that position. and it was hunter biden who according to text messages tom had been erratic and texting in the middle of the night and had i think they've put it as said, blowing her off and so it got very personal in terms of how the family yesterday was the most family that we have seen in this trial. you had aunts, uncles cousins, the cousins, spouses. it was at least a full thing and it was interesting that both sides, in their closing arguments made you made allusions to the family. now, abbe lowell hunters lawyer has been really trying to portray hunter as a family person and has been referencing the family as as part of that that he is just i think one of you, whereas the prostitution is basically saying what? you just alluded to, which is don't be intimidated. this is not these people are not evidenced. these people are not really part of the trial how would you describe kind of the the mood among the biden family members who attended from what? you could observe it, what did what did that feel like yeah. i think they you can see a little bounce in their step after abbe lowell's closing, having just a fulsome 87 minute defense from of hunter when i think a lot of the family feels he has just been hit day after day after day for the last several years and i think i even saw bowel biden, the president, sister give them a go, give abby go, get them. right? right afterward. but after at the very end i don't think the family likes being at felony trial for joe biden's son, and you could tell there were certainly moments ashley biden in particular, the president's daughter and hunter sister has you been very emotional at moments in this trial having to leave at some point, plate lots of tears. and you can tell it's been harder on some than on the others. >> one of the arguments that came up was about hallie biden one of the attorneys said quote, poor hallie biden knew had to be dragged through this period of her life. again, who understandably did not remember a lot of the details well she remembering what she saw that day or dozens of other days when she too was using if you notice, she could remember what the prosecutors asked her. the prosecutors are also gave her immunity, but not so much for any number of things so that that i guess coming from from abbe lowell well, it clearly they felt like they needed to defend other members of the family. two, how did that fit in this been a key part of hunter biden strategy from the very beginning, which is to really try to undermine the credibility of hallie biden, who's beau's widow, who is also his sister-in-law. >> and the reason is because her testimony he is, very very troubling if you're a hunter, biden, the fact is that she was the one that found the gun. she and when she testified that when she went into the truck, she found crack cocaine, paraphernalia, suggesting that he had been smoking very recently, that she found powder that day, which also suggested he'd been using am was the one that he was texting during the period he had the gun in which he said that he was smoking crack and this goes to a larger sort of dynamic within both the defense and the prosecution, which you at the very end of the day beyond the facts that case, i think it will really come down to you. do you relate to hunter biden or do you resent hunter biden and the prosecutor? the hunters team at basically wants to make you think he's a family man that he was suffering from a disease that he's one of you in delaware home grown. whereas the defense is saying no, this is a bad guy. this is the guy that what the little details that he was trying hundred $51,000 in cash withdrawal and just three months that he was a millionaire, that he was yael educated, that he gave $800 to his 24-year-old girlfriend to buy clothes for his daughters. these little details that are meant to portray a different sort of person and that may end up being the difference maker with this jury all right. alex thompson for us this morning. alex. thank you very much for that. meghan hayes, can i ask you, you know, someone who's been in the biden family orbit? how this all mean as alex said, that they entire family has shown up for him at this trial. understandably, but it's gotta be weighing on the president who of course has not made an appearance at the courtroom. >> yeah. i mean, i don't think anybody hit this table. be surprised. a hunter is at the forefront of the presence minor, it adds, it's an extremely challenging situation. he's a dad first and foremost, i think he said that in his statement, but i do think that this is someone who is an addict. he is a recovering addict right now and i think that the family is concerned and i think that's showing up to be supportive of him. i think that's what families do is show up and support people when in their time of need. >> all right. >> let's turn now to the 2024 campaign trail where donald trump de, virtual mark remarks yesterday to the danbury institute it is a conservative christian group. they call abortion, quote, child sacrifice, and quote the greatest atrocity facing our generation today trump, who just two months ago said abortion should be left to the states, didn't explicitly mentioned abortion during his remarks. that's an admission that for the presumptive nominee of the republican party says a lot about the politics of this issue in a post-dobbs, america. instead, trump said this we are a seriously declining nations, seriously serious and so sad. i know that each of you is protecting those values every day and i hope we'll be defending them side-by-side for your next four years. these are going to be your years so matt gorman, i mean, he obviously is trying to tell them something that they want to hear, but to not mention abortion at a group like this. i mean, it just shows what a tough position any republican is in, in a world where the protections of roe means that, well, if you say life begins at conception, suddenly are threatening. everything including in vitro fertilization. >> note we look at it, i think abortion is probably the best issue for democrats and it makes the most sense for him to run on it. >> and i think it doesn't make sense also for trump to give more grist to anything and that they're going to use against them already in a campaign. and i think what this is, i'm more and more convinced that this an election in the sanctuary to come down either the economy hovering above all, an immigration on the right, abortion and left competing as the single issue crawl over broken glass type issues for voters. and which one wins out last couple years exceed abortion went out, could happen again, immigration has been very salient, loved what happens, and i think that's gonna tell us its substrate election. well, and i think the debate that i'm hearing among my republican sources about how they and their candidates should message the abortion issue is very similar to it. why here democrats talking about immigration? the question is, do you try to keep it off the agenda and not talk about it in the hopes that you can raise the salience of some other issue, right. so if you're a democrat to ignore immigration and just tried to talk about abortion where you feel like you have a better message there is a school of thought, i think in both of these camps that says no, you have to go at it. you have to say to voters, i understand why you think this is important and here is my position so that they're not left guessing. so republicans have been having this active debates since the fall of roe, saying we do have to have a message for voters about abortion. we do have to have something to say to them. otherwise, we're just going to get clobbered and i think you've seen democrats on immigration, the same thing. a lot of candidates have tried to avoid the issue, but there is a new conventional wisdom on the democratic side that says if you do that you're just gonna get killed on this issue. that is important to so many voters. you do need to have some kind of positive message, even if it's not necessarily going to be popular because in both cases, the parties are on the wrong side of these respective issue really interesting way to think about it, okay the house rules committee meets today to consider holding attorney general merrick garland in contempt. we're going to talk about that with a member of the committee recovery can ralph 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there was a substantial amount of vote for the one on here that was covered up probably one of the biggest conspiracies in american history when just say there was no evidence of any of the things that he just said there, giuliani pleaded not guilty in may to nine felony charges stemming from his alleged role in arizona's fake electors scheme the port of baltimore is open for business now as the shipping lane into the harb fully reopened last night for the first time since the francis scott key bridge was hit by a cargo ship and collapsed in march from all those folks all right. let's turn now to capitol hill where the house rules committee will meet today to decide whether to advance contempt charges against attorney general merrick garland over his refusal to provide lawmakers the audio of president biden's interview with special counsel robert hur after her found the biden mishandled classified documents but would likely present to a jury as a quote, sympathetic, well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory and quote, the gop led push comes just a week after garland testified before congress, where he said this i will not be intimidated. and the justice department will not be intimidated and training. >> now, it's south carolina republican congressman ralph norman. he sits on the house rules committee a powerful one in the house. congressman. good morning. thank you for being here. >> my pleasure bladder be ready. >> so the attorney general, merrick garland has a new washington post opinion piece that's out this morning and he writes in that piece quote, disagreements about our politics are good for our democracy. they are normal. >> but using conspiracy theories, falsehoods, violence, and threats of violence to effect political outcomes is not normal. >> the short-term political benefits of those tactics will never make up for the long-term cost to our country continued unfounded attacks against the justice department's employees are dangerous for people safety, they are dangerous for our democracy. >> and they must stop. >> what do you have to say to his argument there attorney general garland is let's just say it's laughable. what he's taking party and he's not above the law. he says he's not going to be intimidated it's very simple. >> why don't think he's arguing that he's above you're saying he's not above the law in the context of the contempt charges around that that you are considering what what he's not above the law in is when congress has every right, an article one the whole committees that investigates the doj in any other agency. >> and what we asked for is the sense that president biden had an interview with robert hur asking for the audio tapes very, very simple. the audio tapes and he won't. they initially started back in february of this february 5th and we asked for the audio tapes which do exist and on february 16, the doj under the guidance of merrick garland said they weren't going to meet the timeline. >> they extended the timeline. >> so and then finally they came back and said there's no justifiable reason why you need the audio tapes that the biden has already waived executive privilege by printing the the interview so they're just want to tape to see if they match up with what's being reported. >> they redacted several parts of it. so but and it's saying he's not above the law. he's going to be in contempt. we will pass it, i think in the rules and will hold him accountable like he's doing every every other person has got an arb aside, their name and you're going to learn from the tapes that you can't learn from the transcripts the tapes were backup, will either justify what has been the the transcript say or they won't. >> do you think actually tampered with a the transcripts? >> is that what you're saying? >> we have no idea until we get them. they haven't. that's what attorney general garland refuses to turn over is very simple. turn turn the tape over, and so we can see if it matches with the transcripts either does or does it? and do you think that you have in the full house to hold the garland in contempt oh, i have no idea. we'll see what the evidence we will have testimony today that are probably last six to eight hours. you have a democratic witness, you have republican witness. james calmer well, it may be jim jordan, but one of the two will present what they're finding is, but it's very simple. turn over the tapes that will either validity the transcripts or they won't and let us see it congressman, i want to talk politics with you for a little while. >> your state, of course, has famously sharp-elbowed to put it politely, i would say politics, nancy mace congresswoman, who voted to oust kevin mccarthy facing a primary challenge today. >> could you underscore clarify for me who it is you're supporting in this primary. >> and do you think that mayes is going to hang on? >> i hadn't come out on either side. i know both. and i serve with nancy, catherine templeton was headed de heck under nikki haley who i like i think nancy will win this race, but i hadn't come out publicly for either one of them. i get involved in a lot of races but on this particular one, i decided just to let the low country decide who they want and net nancy's got a track record and catherine templeton has a record of so why once you endorse your college, you're not endorsing nancy mace. i mean, that's pretty normal worthy as typically y'all incumbents usually stick together well, i didn't come out against are either. >> i just said let the voters decide and the low countries has a lot of different issues that they're passionate about. and i let them decide it and i'm from the upstate and i did get involved. am involved with the timmons morgan rice. i came out against william terman's and but on the nancy may just decide to stay out of that sir, before i let you go we've heard president former president trump. obviously, he has campaigned. we've heard him say earlier in the show that america is a declining nation this is something that he talks about all the time. the governor of pennsylvania, which is a key swing state. he's a democrat but he had a different message about what he thinks republican should be saying about america. i want you to listen to what governorship hero said, and then i want to get your reaction on either side. watch all they hear from donald trump is a whole bunch of whining about this country. so i got a message to donald trump and all his negativity in his whining stops barking. america. this is the greatest country on earth, and it's time that we all start acting like it i'm going to say, sir i'm a patriotic american. do you does he have a point president trump as does the american people see what's happening to america. >> he is exactly right? look at what's happening in this country. talk to the average voter out there who is very upset with inflation. they're very upset with the 13 to 15 million illegals coming into this kind. would you still the greatest country on earth as many politicians often have it once was the greatest country on earth. we in the rapid decline, it's not anymore three-and-a-half years of this biden administration. >> pardon me. >> it's not anymore in which country would you say is greater than the united states of america? >> well, unless we get our financials in order, unless we stopped spin in, printing money, will we cannot continue what we have been in the past, which is a shining city on a hill, and the director result of the liberal policies that this administration has continues to put, put the american people through immigration, is leading the pack on. this is he's breaking the constitution. he's destroying the values in this country. so i think the american people show that at the pose all right, i sold them have the name of another country that's greater than the united states of america. congressman ralph north on norman, excuse me, ralph norman, thank you so much, sir, for being here. i really appreciate your time. >> my pleasure. >> all right, let's turn now to this i'm still feature when i walk in the room why wouldn't we talk about taylor swift? >> and we can talk about taylor swift. she apparently has a new admirer in donald trump. in an interview for a forthcoming book about the former president trump raved about the pop star's looks, telling the writer quote, i think she's beautiful, very beautiful. i find it very beautiful. i think she's liberal. she probably doesn't like trump. i hear she's very talented. i think she's very beautiful actually unusually beautiful trump, however, clearly seemed unable to forget his bad blood with swift over her 2020 endorsement of joe biden and throwing into question her political beliefs that she is liberal or is that just an act he asked during the interview, she's legitimately he liberal, it's not an act. it surprises me that a country star can be successful being liberal meghan. >> i mean, i think it's creepy the way he continues to talk about how pretty women are that are significantly younger in age, very much younger. but that being said, i think that he he doesn't want to upset the swifties. i think we all know what happens when that when we awake a giant of the swifties. but i think it's very big. >> part of why we're talking about her. madame mean, disagree with me if you want to but she is actually probably the one celebrity. i think that actually has the power to move inefficient number of probably right? >> yeah, i think it's a matter of now whether she would ever want to get involved, i think in 2020, 2016, were i think we talked to this couple weeks ago, different time for celebrities inject themselves some politics become political actors very different now, outtake donald trump taylor swift, like it's like the page clicks like big bang, massive forces together for this this explosion. >> i hope for it. >> but yeah, i don't think she needs it out really good about i don't think he needs to go out and like i support you biden. she was already did that and then also in her documentary, if she's already said where she stands on a lot of issues and like wind to our family and said, i mean, so i don't think anyone's questioning where she stands politically here, but yeah. so i mean, i think he gets kind of i don't think she needs out really get involved, but i think it like donald trump as like a celebrity, celebrity pundit, right? like a celebrity handicap or he is really encapsulating so where she stands in like the firmament of sort of pop culture, right? yeah. >> he clearly has spent more time looking at her than listening to her. she hasn't been a country star for a long time as my swift the daughter could certainly the idea that like people don't necessarily see her as a political figure. and that's why a potential endorsement for her is so powerful, right? because to her legions of fans who just love her no matter what, the things that she says are, can resonate outside that political sphere. and that's why i think she does have the power to potentially move votes is even though she does have this history of endorsed pressing liberal politicians and taking liberal positions, she is not, i think pigeonholed as just sort of hollywood liberal, liberal celebrity. and so she's able to speak in an authentic way to her following it hearkens back to a funny time where donald trump was on twitter like talking about robert patents and kristen stewart member that ten years ago, remember this is very much like the page six, new york celebrity gossip world he had spent 30 years in. this is almost in a way like a very pure version of donald trump, like gossiping about celebrities. >> yeah, no it's, it's, it's it's donald trump, maggie haberman has been cut yeah. all right. >> i will leave you with this oh like she's still got it. courtney cox, letting the world know. she's still has the moves that she showed off in bruce springsteen's video for dancing in the dark, the friends star joining a social media trend where kids ask their parents to show them how they danced in the 1980s, cox famously appeared in springsteen's 1984 and music video. jumping on stage to boogie with the boss molly ball has your daughter made you do this yet no could you better or worse than a by way waveshape, let's put courtney back first quarter me and her dancing. there yep, there she is. >> i mean, honestly that i think i could do that might be the limit of my abilities, but that i could do i mean i don't know because i wouldn't want to do it in public, but i'm not do not checked doing matt either. all right thanks, guys. >> every much. appreciate your time today. thanks for all to all of you for joining us. i'm
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moment hostages were rescued during a daring and deadly raid inside gaza. >> i get reaction from the us ambassador to the united nations, linda thomas-greenfiel d, chief standing by to join us lucidly, just minutes from now. and there's breaking news. the hunter biden case is now in the hands of a delaware jury the historic trial against the president since son potentially nearing an end as the panel waste three felony gun charges plus donald trump is taking the first step toward his sentencing. i'm 34 felony convictions. the former president, holding a virtual meeting with a probation official this afternoon, and that interview could be a key factor as judge juan merchan decides on potential punishments for trump welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer, a urine the the situation room let's get straight to our top story tonight. the daring bloody israel kelly raid inside gaza, that operation successfully rescuing four hostages. but exacting a heavy toll on palestinian residents nearby the us ambassador to the united nations, linda thomas-greenfield, is standing by live will have a lot to discuss, but first, let's get all the latest developments from cnn's paula i hancocks in tel aviv new video from the israeli military shows the rescue of israeli hostages from central gaza. >> it says hundreds of personnel were involved in this rare daytime operation three hostages locked in an apartment in one multi-story residential building. another held in a flat 650 feet away in a densely populated neighborhood. models of the buildings were built weeks before to train in forces this is how israel's hostage rescue mission looked from the ground airstrikes explosions residents running to find safety. that doesn't have to exist in gaza hostages were flown by helicopter back to israel israel remains with family who had dreamed of this moment for eight months. families you only heard about the mission once their loved ones were safe. >> i haven't stopped smiling since my mug was returned to me, but the remaining hostages needed deal to get home safely there is a deal on the table we ask the israeli government to move forward with the deal the doctor who has treated the hostages since they arrived tells me, despite appearing in good condition, all for a malnourished or masses are extremely wasted. >> is damage to some other systems because of that, he says, they were moved frequently and beaten by their captors it was harsh, harsh experience with a lot of abuse almost every day, every hour both physical, mental, and other types and that is something that is beyond comprehension. dr. pessach also treated some of the hostages released in november and says the psychological damage of these four is significantly worse. >> all of them had faith but losing that faith. i think is where you get to the breaking point. and i'm happy that this guy because i hear but there are others losing the faith in us. >> and human kinds residents in nuiseirat central gaza are in a state of shock, struggling to deal with the aftermath of saturday, which neighboring countries and the eu's top diplomat have called a massacre i'm going to miss out this woman says, most of those trapped under the rubble of women and children. holmes's a filled with displaced people. israel committed a massacre the united nations security council passed a resolution votes this monday on a us proposal for a complete ceasefire in gaza. and the release of all remaining hostages. their work 14 votes in favor, zero against, and just one abstention from russia will follow. hancocks reporting from sylvia. thank you very much, sir. when i was in israel last november, i had a chance to meet with the family of almog meir, jan, one of the hostages just released by the idf i'll mugs a mother. all right. told me about the last time she spoke with their son as the hamas attack was underway. if you're me up and said to me, mom, they are rockets all over. >> and shooting. i don't know what happened. what is going? hey, non am i doing i'll call you every half an our mom, i love you i'm so happy. >> of course, but i'll mug is home now with his loved one, sadly almost father yossi die just hours before his son's return to israel, authorities found yossi meir unconscious. and they went to notify him of all mugs rescue. he was later declared dead. i want to send my deepest condolences to the mayor family as they grieve yossi is passing and welcome almog home joining me mydata discuss all of this and more of the new united nations and to discuss the du, united nations resolution on a gaza ceasefire and all the other top stories from the region, the us ambassador to the united nations, linda thomas greenfield, ambassador. thank you so much for taking a few moments to join us. as you know, this is the first-time the un security council has officially endorsed they ceasefire plan. why now, after eight months of war we have been working on this for eight months for eight months. we have pushed for efforts to achieve a ceasefire. this resolution brings us the closest to getting that done. then we're ever been. and we thought it was important that the council's speak in a unified voice on that. and the boat today's show that if 14th or nothing with one abstention, that would be russia, president biden says this ceasefire plan is israel's, but prime minister netanyahu hasn't publicly accepted it, neither has hamas president biden has said it's time for this war to end. >> what will this resolution ambassador do to get both sides? to accept this deal? that's currently on the table i think the resolution is actually the opportunity to pressure hamas to accept the deal. >> israel has accepted the deal. the president has said that and now all we need is to have hamas, this deal, release hostages that they are required to do in phase one and move forward on an extended ceasefire this is an important effort that was made with the support of the qatari government and the egyptian government working with us on the ground as you said, you say, the israeli government has accepted this deal. >> that's currently on the table. but does the israeli leader, prime minister netanyahu, need to accept it himself he's avoided that but i can't speak for prime minister netanyahu. i can only speak what the president has conveyed and he has conveyed competence in the israeli acceptance of this. still, what we need dallas hamas to accept the deal, they welcomed the resolution immediately after it was passed. they need to take the next step and accept the deal and start to release hostages. >> as you know, ambassador this weekend's israeli operation freed four israeli hostages, but came with a steep to, of at least 274 palestinians killed. that according to gaza officials. are you comfortable with that trade-off luck? >> i can't get into the numbers for me. >> a singles civilian, innocent civilian killed is way too many. but what we cannot ignore the fact that hamas hides behind civilians they were holding hostages in civilian areas. >> they are firing at idf from civilian areas. >> so it is hamas that should be held accountable for any actions that are taken that lead to civilian deaths. >> they don't care about their palestinian billions. as long as they continue to use civilians as, as cover. >> but does this level of carnage ambassador risk? isolating israel even more so out there on the world stage. and is the us risky? it's international credibility by letting israel operate in gaza virtually unchecked well, if our international reputation is very strong and we have worked very closely with our israeli allies. >> they are not operating unchecked. we're engaging with them on a regular basis. >> du we agree 100%, not always but we're working very, very closely with them. >> israel has a right to defend itself from a terrorist group whose main purpose in life is to ensure that israel does not exist and all jews are killed. so we have continued to support israel's right to defend itself against these terrorists. >> ambassador, have there been any conversations inside the biden administration to try to negotiate what's being described as a unilateral deal with hamas to free the remaining american hostages who are still being held but we're trying to get all hostages released every single one we care very much about the american hostages who are being held. but all hostages should be released for hostages released who were actually brought home on saturday is just one small group. all of them could be brought home if this deal gets accepted by hamas ambassador linda thomas-greenfield, thanks so much for joining us and just ahead, there's more breaking news. we're following donald trump just finishing his meeting with a probation official in new york. what we we know about what the former president it was likely asked and how his answers will factor into his sentencing next month. plus a 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there isn't an awful lot that is not known about donald trump his life and so on. but to gather the kind of background that they could put in their report that psr pre-sentencing report to the judge? so he can consider their findings about whether donald trump would be a better candidate to be sentenced to jail or prison, or whether he would be a better candidate for probation given his his crime. so they go into things like his personal life has financial background, education, family's situation ration, things like that. but it was a relatively short meetings. cnn's kristen holmes tells us that this meeting lasted not much longer than than half an hour and covered the basic information was uneventful. >> yeah, very interesting. only half an hour. interesting indeed, john miller, thank you very much. want to get some analysis? it's from our legal experts who are here with me in the situation room. at least adamson is with us former federal prosecutor, at least walk us through what you expect. actually happened during this half-hour meeting yeah. >> i think it's important to note that this was a psi that was conducted after a jury verdict. so when a defendant pleads guilty, i think you can expect these introduced to take longer because at that point, most defendants, but they've already accepted responsibility. they're going to show some remorse. they're going to explain why their actions are bad. they're going to use that time as advocacy to tell the judge probation through the judge threw probation, why they should be giving a more lenient sentence. i think it's not unexpected that today's interview was very short because the former president wants to maintain his fifth amendment right. he's going to appeal. he is going to maintain his innocence so i think today it was just simple questions. he was not going to go into the conviction. todd blanche was there with him, so he was just going to talk about his education, his his characteristics, how long he had lived in the state of new york, probably as residency in florida and just very basic background because really that's all he could safely share it's interesting, tim, because todd blanche's attorney was there with them coaching and presumably about this probation interview that was going on, how do you think trump is handling it? >> what do you think he's trying to do? >> well, i mean, he's obviously he's not happy about the conviction itself. and so i think that todd is trying to keep him on task of let's just talk about the issues here at hand and is released. just said when i have a case like this where it is a verdict after trial you would tell the probation officer, hey, don't ask him any questions. he's going to invoke his fifth amendment rights. so just stick to the history of biograph biographical information. so i think that the idea of donald trump being interviewed by a probation officer about where did you grow up tell us tell us your parents names and things like that i'm sure that he finds it somewhat direct, degrading, but it is the same thing that every criminal defendant in that courthouse go, sir yeah. >> that's an important point as well. judge. grass. so what do you make of the fact that this interview lasted what, a half an hour? >> well, i agree with what the other panelists said. >> we wouldn't really have expected donald trump to go on at length about a sense of accountability and the things he's learned from this type of a situation. i think it was pretty perfunctory i mean, if he wanted, he could have tried without it without admitting anything or accepting liability for the offenses that he's still going to appeal on. he could have tried to maybe couch and in terms of while i don't think i did anything wrong, maybe we could have done things better along the way. some sense of humility or something like that, because the bottom line is this probation officer, is going to be making a recommendation to the judge on sentencing. the probation officer could very well recommend jail or prison time in this case so theoretically, a defendant might try and appear contrite. i doubt that happen here just from what we've seen being in court every day and the general persona of this defendant. so putting all of that in context a half-hour is not surprising at all at least i didn't think today's interview that trump had with his probation official will impact judge varchar decision on july 11 to announce sentencing. yeah, i don't think it'll have that great of an impact these sentencing recommendations are meant to be persuasive. so i think judge merchan will take it into consideration. but once again, since this wasn't a very fulsome interview, the defendant wasn't sharing a lot of information that the judge will take into account. and then i also understand from new york legal expert tim, that the psr is in new york state are not as robust as they they are in the federal system, in the federal system, the probation officer does their own investigation. they colored their own understanding of the facts, and they use that as the basis of the recommendation. it's my understanding that that's not the same here. so given the relatively short duration of the interview and the fact that judge merchan presided over the entire jury trial and is very aware of the facts and the defendant and its behavior. i think while it might be helpful, i don't think it's going to impact his ultimate decision-making to trump's team is scheduled to submit its sentencing recommendation. is this coming thursday? what do you think they're going to ask where there are clear then asked for some type of a probation in this case. i mean i think that what they would be smart to do is to focus on not just this case, but the history of what donald trump has done in new york city, they should be talking more about what he did for woman skating rink, what he did for revitalizing the area around grand central terminal, all of the things that he did for the decades before politic some of the positive thing exactly, exactly. they should talk about all the positive things that he's done for new york city and say, in light of all these wonderful things that he's literally changed the skyline the line of the city versus these false business records. this is not something that even accepting the facts as the prosecution claims them is something that he should get jail for, especially for class e felony with a cooperating witness who admitted to a class c felony during the trial, where somebody is no criminal history. so i think that they have a very good argument for some type of probation the difficulty is going to be of course, the prosecution is going to point out everything that he's done as far as violating the gag order the statement city made about the judge just minutes after the verdict. it's it's a very unique case. >> will know on july 11, what the judge decides everyone. thank you very much. just add a live report with hunter 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and pastor taking up three rows in court today have known the parameters you don't abandon your friends and family in closing arguments, prosecutors pointed to the gallery of supporters and said, those people are not evidence and reminded the jury that no one is above the law. the prosecution directly address the most difficult element they have to prove that hunter biden knowingly lied on a federal background check form when purchasing the gun at the center of this case, the defendant knew he used crack and was addicted to crack at the relevant time period, adding that hunter would have been aware from his time in rehab that he had a problem with drugs maybe if he had never gone to rehab, he could argue he didn't know. he was an addict at the end of his closing, prosecutor, leo wise circled back to testimony from hunters daughter, naomi, on friday, when she told the jury that when she returned or father's car to him on october 19, 2018, she did not see any the evidence of drugs, but why is reminded the jury hunter's former girlfriend, hallie biden, his brother, beau biden's widow, had testified that when she found the gun in the same car days later, she found it alongside drug paraphernalia defense attorney abbe lowell countered, warning jurors not to convict his client in properly adding it's time to end this case. he compared the trial to a magician's trick, trying to dupe the jury, saying, watch this hand pay no attention to the other one. he accused prosecutors of cherry picking evidence to present a more timeline of hunter's drug use and said his client was not lying when he marked down that he was not an addict on that federal form. lowell attacks, two of hunter's former girlfriends who both served as prosecution witnesses in this case. he noted zoe kestan took pictures of hunter with drugs, but not in the key month of october 2018. he also reminded the jury that hallie biden could not remember specific details about when she found the gun in hunter's car? and noted hunter was the one who told hallie to file a police report for the missing gun after she threw it out hunter did not take the stand to testify in his own defense in this case. a move that would have come with potential rewards and definite risks the jury will return to court here in wilmington tomorrow morning at 9:00 a.m. to resume their deliberations. >> but it's notable the prosecutors pointed to the first lady and other supporters who are there for hunter and reminded the jury that they don't matter, that suggests that perhaps the justice department is a little worried about that let's show of force for hunter and what it means for their case. but i was in court earlier today and watch the jury. they followed by line by line is the judge went through the instructions but they'll have to follow for this historic decision. wolf paula reid reported for us, paula. >> thank you very much. let's discuss what's going on with cnn, legal analysts. carrie cordero, and our senior political analyst, gloria borger carry lab. you start with you based on the closing arguments. what do you think are the best strongest points of each sayyed that they made? >> well, from the defense perspective, the biggest thing that they have going for them is that the prosecution, if it's going to prove its case, is doing so by info in other words, there does not seem to have been at the trial specific evidence of a witness or documents like a video, for example, in actual physical piece of evidence demonstrating that hunter biden was using drugs at the specific time. what there is is there's sort of tangential evidence of circumstances that would lead the jury to infer that he was using at the time. and so that's that's really what the what the defense will point to the prosecution on the other side is going to say, well, look at all these different circumstance dances. those all add up to a conclusion that he was using and therefore, he knowingly falsified the form. >> well, it was interesting, gloria, in reference to the biden family. yeah. the prosecution said during their closing arguments, they said this, i'm quoting people sitting in the gallery are not evidence. you may recognize them from the news, but respect thankfully, none of that matters. what do you make of the optics of the first lady, jill biden and other family members showing up almost on a daily basis. >> well, i think that the prosecution might be a little concerned that the jury would have a lot of sympathy for somebody with that kind of family support. >> don't forget a lot of members of the jury have gone through issues in their own lives with drug abuse and you have the first lady flying back from france to come sit at this trial. you have his children, you have his pastor you have friends, family. they took up three rows, i guess and that's something that jerry pays attention to. and so it helps in the portrait of hunter biden as not an evil, a drug addict. it portrays him as somebody deserving of your sympathy and your empathy. and i think that helps him think you're probably right. did you think it was the right move for hunter biden not to testify? he could have testified if he wanted to. his lawyers presumably said don't do it. but what do you think? >> i think that's right. i'm certainly any defendant has the right not to testify. and i think in this case, probably it would have opened the cross-examination would have open him up to delving into so many other areas that are potentially would have been counterproductive. so i think most defendants don't testify on around behalf, and i think in this case, it probably makes sense that he followed the advice of his defense counsel not to, you know, in an odd way though, you did hear from hunter biden because you heard from his book in which he audio books, his audio book. he wrote about this. he wrote about his drug addiction and that was used during the trial against him. but it was used. and so you don't voice you did here, right? and you did here? voice. so he didn't testify. but you did hear him talk about his addiction. >> you know, it's interesting. the president has vowed to accept the verdict, but is ruled out a pardon for his son very definitively, if he's convicted, though, how's this going to play out politically? >> you know, it's, it's really hard to say. >> i'm not sure that it plays out that much at all. what congress is worried about. its financial and propriety that may have been committed between joe biden and his son, and they've presented no evidence for that. if you notice, they've been a little quiet during this trial. and if a hunter biden is convicted, i think that there will be some sympathy for for joe biden and for the family and all of this. but i'm not sure that it plays out in a large political way other than the fact that it will affect joe biden himself. i think sure. it will gloria borger. thank you. carrie cordero. thanks to you as well. >> coming up. >> 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several factors. wolf, including what trump might have just said at that pre-sentencing interview tonight, we have new information on the many possible forms of punishment the judge more sean could impose on donald trump i just went through a rigged trial in new york now that donald trump has completed his pre-sentencing interview with a probation official, a report on the interview will be sent directly to judge juan merchan, who has a few options for sentencing. trump, the most serious one, prison time, the crimes for which trump's been convicted, falsifying business records could carry sentences of up to four years, each, with a maximum of 20 years. but realistically, it's unlikely that someone convicted of this type of felony in new york with no prior criminal history would see much if any, prison time trump's advanced age experts say would also be a factor in not sending him to prison he turns 78 this week. another sentencing option, probation analysts say, well, that might be a more realistic choice. it would come with a host of inconveniences and indignities for the former president have it be drug tested, having to check in with a probation officer, there could be random visits by probation officers to your home, not with a search warrant, but they can come knock on the door. you need to let them in. home confinement also might be part of a probation sentence for trump, or maybe a restriction on out-of-state travel. >> if he were going to fly off to another state wisconsin, arizona, he would have to get explicit permission from the probation agency. trump could simply be fine for his convictions or he could do community service where he has to pick up trash on the subways. experts say a conditional discharge could be a sentencing option is a condition of your discharger, your release and you have to abide by those conditions. the court will say, don't get arrested, going, don't get in trouble for the next year or during the pendency of your saenz or for stated period of time. and that's it. you're not checking in? no one's following up with you. there's no probation is no oversight all options, experts say reflective of the striking uniqueness of this situation for the probation department, this is uncharted waters. they have never interviewed someone of this statute before. they know that their work their recommendation is going to weigh heavily in the judgment and decision by judge merchan legal analysts say acceptance of responsibility is often a key factor when a judge considers a sentence. and the fact that donald trump has shown no remorse for the actions he's been convicted of, and has repeatedly publicly attack the judge and witness in this trial could bring him a stiffer sentence. wolf, july 11 is a big day. >> we'll see what happens on that day, brian. thank you very much coming up back to politics with donald trump out there and the virtual campaign trail today, speaking today to an anti-abortion group but what it's what he 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just don't do well on the issue of reproductive rights with that said, in that clip, you showed a lot of evangelicals. we'll do believe the cultural behavior and customs of behavior in the country are changing particularly as it pertains to their religiosity and the religious views. and they sort of do want someone to be a protector or defender of those views, even if that person is the imperfect individual to do so, how do you think this is going to play with moderate voters out there? certainly that's a group that trump is trying to win over moderate voters, suburban women, for example, how's it going to play? not well at all. will fan this is where i think trump is trying to have it both ways. >> and while it's no question that christian groups, christian conservative groups, who are completely against abortion are going to support him because he is responsible for overturning roe v. >> wade and he brags about it every chance he gets, especially in front of these conservative groups. but then suburban women, moderate voters, and frankly, the vast majority of americans who believed that women should have the right to do what they feel is best for their own bodies and their families they don't support this. they think that roe v. wade should not have been overturned they believe that women should have this right. and they are going to continue to punish republicans and donald trump at the ballot box if they continue to push this massive goal of taking away women's rights and freedoms. and that's how the biden campaign's smartly is messaging this whole issue let's just get your thoughts, your mic alone. >> i have you vice president harris called out congress, republican congressman byron donalds for his controversial comments on jim crow. during an interview with politico. that's first watch what he said. listen to this during jim crow. >> go back family wants to get during black not just conservative, by who always a pink conservative library more black people voted conservatively vice president harris responded to that by saying this and i'm quoting her now. >> it's sadly at another example of somebody out of florida trying to erase or rewrite our true history i went to florida last july to call out what they were trying to do to replace our history with lies. and apparently there's a never-ending flow of that coming out of that state. what are your thoughts on what he would this congressman were saying? congressman jim crow. the jim crow era. >> yeah, i've watched several interviews wolf with the congress and i'm going to take him at his word that his intent was not to romanticize the jim crow era. this is a black man i'm really going to presume that he's very aware of our history. and in this country, i hope that isn't but, but i do think the point that there are some areas within our community that we as a collective group have to focus more on. i wouldn't disagree with with that should we do some things? a strengthened a family? absolutely. can you do that through the policy realm? i think so, but i do think as you talk about the past, you do have to be careful not to have the appearance that you're romanticized and something that was very horrible for the black community. i have grandparents that are still alive who went through segregation. my grandmother was the first to enter into her high school in new orleans and first-time desegregating the school. and so i think there are people that are still among us who have those very real and raw my experiences. and i would hope that republicans, whether they're black, white, or anyone else for that matter, would be sensitive to the experience of those individuals who are still among us that's interesting on another subject, trump is launching what he's calling a latino americans for trump campaign to reach out to hispanic voters. >> what do you think? >> noise when a wolf whole issue of wanting to launch a program called latino americans for trump a couple of 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on the stance at a key witness for the prosecution, detailing the alleged scheme to trade favors for influence soon as jason carroll is joining us from outside the courthouse right now, jason update our viewers. >> in another dramatic day of testimony yeah. >> more testimony coming from jose uribe. this is the man who's already pleaded guilty to bribery charges. now cooperating with the prosecution and today we'll he gave more details about specific conversations he has. he says he had with senator menendez directly related to bribery. he spoke about one in particular, a dinner in 2019 at il bellagio restaurant in new jersey. he says, i get to ask again for the first time and explain what is worrying me so much. i asked him if anything in his power to stop an investigation. i'll explain about that in a moment. menendez is answer he would look into it. of course, you rebate was worried about these criminal investigations going on in new jersey wolf that could have implicated people that he was close to. so he told jurors what he did was he paid nadine menendez $15,000 so she could buy a brand new mercedes in exchange for the the senators influence. he then talks about another meeting at nadine menendez, his home, where he says he wrote down the names of people who were possibly implicated in this designation, put it on a piece of paper. he said senator menendez folded up the piece of paper, put it in his pocket, then in october of 2019, he says he got a call from senator menendez. he told jurors that he felt as though this situation had been resolved and he choked up. juror he choked up wolf as he was speaking about what had happened saying that this situation had been over, and he felt he was at peace then there was this
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