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[ male announcer ] lease a 2013 c250 for $349 a month at your local mercedes-benz dealer. >> monday mork morning, climate change, the push for a carbon tax is here now. and the world bank releasing a report called turn down the heat. here is what world bank president kim says, quote, the time is very, very short. the world has to tackle the problem of climate change more aggressively. we will never end poverty if we don't tackle climate change. it's not just him, our own leaders blaming superstorm sandy on climate change. >> it's an extremely important issue for me and i hope we can address it, as something we've seen the storms are overwhelming our country and the world, we need to do something about it. >> but it is undeniable, but there's climate change and a great political argument what caused the climate change, whatever the cause, it is happening. >> i am a firm believer that climate change is real that's it's impacted by human behavior and carbon emissions. stuart: so, here comes a carbon emissions tax, i don't know, wait. there's more. toys "r" us chief told financial times, people should stop on-line shopping because it's bad for the environment. people are so enraptured how cool it is they can order anything and get it brought to their home that they aren't thinking about the carbon footprint of that, the, but that will change. i'm suggesting this could be paving the way for a carbon tax, a global tax on carbon emissions. wait for it? it could be on the way. the middle east remains on the brink. israel has increased targeted attacks in gaza, going after areas where militants are firing rockets into israel, but palestinians say 50 civilians are killed in the last six days of fighting and israelis tanks and ground troops rehe main on the israeli side of the border and this is having some limited impacts on the price of oil this morning, and oil right now is back to $88 a barrel, it's up 1.83, that's a significant rally there. and meanwhile, president obama is in myanmar, formerly known as burma and stated israel's absolute right to defend itself. coming up in the next hour, lt. colonel ralph peters, we'll ask him about the iron dome missile defense and possibly the most important weapon in modern warfare. a great american brand, hostess killed by unions, thousands of workers out of a job. how could the unions defend this? after this, someene who will attempt to do just that and we'll have the opening belfol f you on monday morning. that's next. can i help you? i heard you guys can ship ground for less than the ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to get a holiday deal is to mp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot? [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fedex office. >> coming up up to the opening bell. so far the shopping, expecting an 80, 90%, bounce, and despite more credit card debt, that could be a positive, and started to open the wallets and borrow and spend money and nice sounding noises out of the fiscal cliff negotiations maybe that's another positive, but we're expecting 80 points up on the dow in a couple of minutes from now. this is one of our unofficial economic indicators, lowe's, they are the home improvement chain of course, they made more money than expected last quarter. so, nicole, it's a stock up and is it a sign of better things to come? >> yes and yes, so far for lowe's it's up 6%, those are winners, why are we looking at lowe's here, they came out with numbers and sales on the rise and raised the full year sales forecast and also say, sandy battered the east coast and once again it was interesting, the projects in the next two months will be for less than $500. those aren't really big. >> no, they're not for sure. hey, nicole, i hear that paul otellini, ceo of intel, one of our door stopper stocks, he's leaving in may and that was announced earlier this morning. tell me, has the stock bounced at all? >> that's a big deal for intel, which is down 17% this year, we're not really seeing much here on the stock, but don't forget the, he's been with the company over 40 years, okay? but we've talked about demand and we have talked about tech and the group overall is under pressure and intel has certainly been a part of that. >> by the way, intel is not yet opened, i believe it's halted, and that's why we showed it on the air in a second and $20 a share. i guess it's to let the news get out that mr. otellini is leaving, i guess that's going on here. we'll bring you an opening quote as soon as we have it. the dow is straight up. 100 points higher in the first, what would that be, 102, and that puts us back in almost 12-7 on the dow and there are no unions in wal-mart, but a small group of workers trying to change that. wal-mart faces a walkout on black friday, because their employees want to unionize, some of them that is. that would hurt as the day after thanksgiving, very big for retailers. wal-mart says this group is very, very small, it doesn't represent the views of the vast majority of the 1.3 million wal-mart employees, where is wal-mart? no change, 68. but there's some possibility of action on black friday in wall street, we'll see. the great american brand. hostess is no more. the u.s. bankruptcy court will decide today to approve the company's request to liquidate according to the filing. and hostess wants to shut down bakeries and fire over 18,000 employees and pay 1.75 million dollars in incentives and bonuses to 19 managers, the management says the bakers union forced the liquidation while the union workers blamed bad management. joining us now, the author of the state of the unions, and always a defender of the unions on this program. and phil, welcome back, good to see you again. >> good to be with you, stuart. >> are you going to tell me that hostess is done in by bad management and no justice because they got pay increases and bonuses just before the close of business? >> oh, as issue, stuart, i tried to have a balanced and fairview here, look in any one of these cases there are several possibilities and i think all apply here. one is that management is either being overly demanding or trying to compensate for poor management and take it out on workers, the union can be unreasonable or social and economic trends can simply have done the company in. and i think all three of them are here. >> you wouldn't say that the unions really did it in, because they would not allow hostess to offer it efficiently, you know about the problems, a driver of one hostess truck could not take some hostess products, he could take others and you've got to have two truck deliveries on the same route. you really cannot the run a company efficiently when you've got union problems like that, can you? >> stuart, this company could not run itself efficiently, in the last ten years they've had seven ceo's, they've had about six or eight new business plans. they gave-- they've already been in bankruptcy and come out and a financial advisor they hired last year, advised them not to come out yet because they wouldn't survive and they did come out and while they were doing that, they gave their then ceo, a 300% increase. >> when they were-- -pwhy did the union, the bakers union, let's see, it's called the bakery confectioners, why would they vote no, knowing full well they'd lose their jobs, why would they do that? isn't at that kind of spite? i don't care what happens we're going to stick it to you because you're rotten management? >> i understand what you're saying, i think they felt they had just taken too much. a couple of years-- over the past ten years they've given up 8% in wages, they've given back a lot of things and when the company went into bankruptcy they promised the court they would pour the concessions into reinvesting in the company. 3 c1 they did not do that, instead they gave management lavish raises. stuart: okay. what happens if, i think, that twinky, the brand and the recipe, it almost certainly is going to be sold to somebody else, i mean, they sold 68 million dollars worth of twinkies in 2012. if somebody were to buy that name and recipe, they would make money. my question, you wouldn't expect the buyer to take on the same union workers, would you? >> well, companies in general don't necessarily like to have a union in there. i don't know what's going to happen. i do think the union certainly could have done a better job, for example, communicating with the teamsters, with their fellow unionists what was going on. i don't think anybody acted particularly well here. the company or the union. stuart: and the the teamsters voted for this. they want to stay in the job. they want to go to work. and the bakers guys, they said no, no, we just can't take this. you're out of work, too. >> it's a mess all around. stuart: isn't it-- >> it's what, stuart. stuart: bloody-minded? maybe that's an english expression, cutting off your nose to spite your face. >> i see that, but it started with the companies-- again, a company that has seven ceo's in ten years is not particularly well-managed, i think you'd agree with that. stuart: i'm saying that maybe they couldn't manage it. what, 5,500 distributions, delivery routes, 565 distribution centers. 371 different pension plans? who could manage that? if the unions will not walk away from these disputes, these tiny little disputes about who, which truck can carry which product. if you can't get them to walk away from that how could you manage anything? and by the way, the guys at the end who were in-- invested in hostess, the last group of managers, they lost their investments, they lost it all. >> stuart, i know it's beyond you to ever find any fault with management, but i really think if you would look at this a little more carefully you'd find fault on both sides. stuart: i just like free market capitalism where we all compete on an equal footing and equal playing field and so the customer gets the best price and we all have rising wages because our productivity goes up. unions consistently stand in the way of that. and by the way, you should be happy if your victory, you just won the last election. yes, you did, you did. >> yeah, i suppose you could say that because one guy, one guy was fairly favorable and the other guy was out to destroy organized labor, and he did not succeed thankfully. stuart: i've got one last one, i'm going to stretch one. i have to ask. do you think that apple would be a better company today if it were unionized? >> you've asked me this before and i'll say the same thing again. i don't know. i suppose it depends on what kind of union they have. stuart: you don't know? you don't know? you think, use your ipad and smart phone and ipod if it was union made? >> let me say this, stuart, if apple had the same management as hostess, i don't think it would matter what they'd do as far as union they'd fail. stuart: not bad. good rejoineder. always a pleasure, thank you, phil. come and see us again. >> thank you, stuart. stuart: not a bad sign for-- another bad sign and companies are scaling back, fastest pace, big names you know, spending less the next year, and they have plans to spend less, not a good sign for economic growth. spending at wal-mart, ford, boeing, intel, disney i don't think the companies mentioned all slowing down. bad sign. make no mistake, higher taxes are coming next year. and for family farms, it could mean the families cannot keep the farms they had for generations and yeah, it's the estate tax we're talking about. new at ten. we talked to cme trainer and former, owner, on the debt tax threat. also new at 10 the latest read on housing market. is the real estate market bouncing back? and existing home sales at the top of hour and you get them from us. back to nicole, wal-mart moving up dividend payment date. could this be to avoid a tax increase? >> oh, my goodness. when i read this, i find it pretty unbelievable. i mean, don't call this a coincidence, stuart. wal-mart is moving up their fourth quarter dividend payout, which was due to be paid out on january 2nd in the new year, right? the new tax year. instead, they're moving it back a week. so, this will occur now at the end of december. so, this, obviously, on december 27th, this obviously saved investors a churning of change and it's their holiday gift. >>' they expect the tax to go up next year. >> there isn't a ceo out there who isn't saying, oh, man the fiscal cliff is coming. i mean, they're all so aware of it. you've got to right. thanks, nicole. dow is up 136. that's a rally. 134 as we speak. 12-7. and e-mail us please at varney at fox business.com. we read some of them on the air. 7 early movers, a fitness club declared a $3 a share special cash dividend. they like that. it's up. nintendo rolls out its new wii u. that's up. construction company expecting to a pretax charge, it's up a little bit. wright medical group buying the biometric group for a-- up to 380 million dollars cash, it's up. and let expire the offer for dollar thrifty, hertz. dollar thrifty is up. lowe's home improvement store is up. cisco buying cloud network company for 1.2 billion dollars cash. it's up. whoa, how about that. seven early movers all of them up. not too hard when the dow is up 132 points by the way. we have been saying the rich are selling assets ahead of higher taxes in the new year, but our next guest says he is buying real estate now. why? 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[ male announcer ] humana. ♪ >> i guess you could play out old-fashioned bad news, there's no real bad news on the horizon. dow goes up, a rebound from this month's losses, but check the share price of intel. it's just opened. paul otellini, long time intel guy, retiring in may. the stock was held up for the first 15 minutes worth of business and now it's open, very little change. it's actually up 15 cents on that news, we're about 15 minutes away from the latest report on existing home sales, and very important number in the housing market. so, i pose this question. if it's a good time to buy real estate, any kind of real estate, joining us know is richard, a commercial real estate investors. by the way, he writes novels. his latest is called the thieves of legend. we'll get into that in a second. i think i've mangled your name. >> it's deutche, but we spell it differently. stuart: i don't care, i'm sorry. >> no apologies, no apologies. stuart: you're a commercial real estate investor. >> right. stuart: you run a company that does just that. and you're telling me you're buying now big time? >> you know, it's interesting, everyone always looks at the problems and all of this fiscal cliff and all of the dangers. there's profit in chaos, that old phrase. stuart: what do you make your profit in the particular chaos. >> 18 months ago we start today look at what was going to happen. that the bush tax cuts would be expiring and we said, you know what? capital gains are going to eventually go up and right now it's going up about 9%, come january 1st. you've got a lot of people that want to get out. they've been invested for a long time. stuart: so you've got people in the commercial real estate field. they own a property and they see the end of the year approaching and they know if they sell, take their profit this year, they pay a low capital gains tax rate there on. >> that's correct. stuart: and you, being the vulture that you are, swoop in with a bag full of money to buy at a good lower price before the end of the year, correct. >> precisely. you know, you've always got to be prepared for what everyone calls the dark days, but over 30 years all of my profits always made, now, when things are turning bad. >> so you'll sit back and you'll buy now, a decent price and you'll sit back and you won't touch this thing and you won't take any money out of it in terms of profit and you'll put money back into the profit. >> correct. >> and hold on until when? >> right. old-fashioned, go to the next election. and see where it turns up. >> so, you think that ultimately, there could be a reduction of capital gains tax? >> eventually, i think there will. i always look at real estate as a long-term hold. i don't speculate and 5, 10, 15, 20 years. and what kind of properties. >> buildings and worked very well. stuart: where. >> all over, texas, florida, new york, new jersey. >> okay. >> wherever i can get. >> the last word on the book. the thieves of legend, the title. stuart: that's right. >> thieves of legends. what's a real estate person writing a thriller, look at the real estate investing, it's a thriller. stuart: real estate investings and thrillers. >> real estate. stuart: by a long way. >> pretty much. stuart: so your books have not been selling well? >> they've been doing well, it's just you've seen publishing-- and somewhere else, go into movies and kind of make up the shortfall. stuart: i mangled your name and called you a vulture and insin ya wa wait-- insinuated that you haven't selling books. and what's going on this morning? we're up, back to 1729 per ounce, a gain of $14 this monday morning and now we have this. med box, it's a company that makes medical marijuana vending machines. and just a few weeks ago, the stock was trading about 3 bucks a share. but after a report that suggested investing in marijuana stocks, the stocks soared 3000%. what gives? edie and tom sullivan are here. we'll get their take. ♪ >> shares in a u.s. company that makes medical marijuana dispensing machines soared 3000% last week after the article on how to invest in legalized marijuana. the stock has come down since then and the company put out a statement trying to curb investor enthusiasm we'll take steps to avoid a rollercoaster syndrome with the stock rising and falling in dramatic fashion. that was from the med box founder. and you've been on wall street a long, long time. how do you go from 450 to what was it $250 a share? >> i don't know, i think there were people a little high and they bought when they were under the influence. because it makes-- you don't buy stocks on a rollercoaster like that? >> why not? >> because it's going to come right back down again. stuart: who bought at $250. >> a bunch of high people. [laughter] . >> for sure. stuart: with the stock by the way back to 20. >> yeah, see? went from 4 bucks to 250 back down to 20. >> and they're excited they know it's going to go up and stay up and euphoric, that's why. they think it's going to work. stuart: but it's understandable. surely. >> sure. stuart: if marijuana is legalized across the country. >> they're going to go crazy and everyone is going to go-- everyone's going to go. >> you have to remember, the story of the gold rush, who made the money? picks and shovel people. >> exactly. leyland stanford had a hardware store and how he made the money, selling shovels. stuart: these guys are selling a medical marijuana dispensing machines. >> and you guys would make a boatload of money a big, big success. stuart: don't think about it. >> high on life. stuart: don't think about it it. new at ten, family farms could be out of the family under the new death tax come 2013. we're talking to farmer about that. plus the biggest read on the market, the existing home sales numbers. we'll find out top of the hour coming right up. >> >> >> >> stuart: new at 10:00, the death tax returns with a vengeance in 2013 as state taxes set to skyrocket in the new year, that could mean family farms may not be able to stay in the family. we've got a story on that one with our frequent varney & company guest what is also a farmer. that's coming up. first we're just seconds away from the latest read on the real estate market. existing home sales just got the number, 4.79 million. that's the annualized rate at which existing homes are selling. that's 2.1% up month to month. that's october compared to september. so we've got a 2% gain and a 4.79 million annualized selling rate. that's still nowhere near the good old days of 05 and 06 when we were close to 6 million homes sold every year. but it's a healthier number, put it like that. let's check the dow industrials. we were up about 140 odd points. now up 151. signs of life in the housing market apparently putting a little bit of a jump into the already established market rally. all right. it's monday morning. here is our company eager to jump in on all of these things: g.o.p. strategist is back with us. tom sullivan is here. nicole petallides, she is joining from the floor of the new york stock exchange. nicole, i just saw apple go by on the tape. up what, 20 bucks, what's going on? nicole: yeah, nice day here for apple. don't forget it's been selling off. it was at 520 something and change. this was a $705 stock in the middle of september. here we are about a month later, two months later and it's been obviously tanking so had some room to the upside and they are getting that today, up 22 bucks. stuart: that's a nice gain. thank you very much indeed. i have tom sullivan here with me. you are a california kind of guyy but you were looking at the housing numbers, existing home sales up 2.1% october. 4.79 million. i'm saying there's some improvement here. tom: there is, but that's for the real estate industry. in other words, how many sales there are. and sales are not as strong as the prices, and the only reason for that is one out of three people in this country are still under water and stuart, they are not going to sell. they can't sell. they can't refinance. they can't do a lot of things and so i think that sales number is going to creep along until we get positive equity for more people. stuart: essentially, i'm grasping at straws here. tom: everybody is. everybody is jumping up and down about the real estate market recovering. i'm going, i don't think so. not when you have a third of this country under water. stuart: prices rather than sales volume? >> prices are up because the fact there are so few homes for sale, the ones that are for sale, demand is going to push those prices up. stuart: do you have anything to say about the real estate market? >> i agree with tom. i don't think it's good right now. i'm happy that you are optimistic, stuart. you know, i think it is going to take a while. the folks i know they are struggling. >> stuart: it's bad for sellers right now because you don't get a decent price. it's good for buyers. tom: probably and try and find a home. there's not that many for sale. >> what about financing? stuart: financing is very cheap. inventory is not up there? tom: inventory is way down. because again you can't put your house for sale if you're under water. stuart: i have to move on to a different subject here because today is the sixth day of fighting in gaza. israel is continuing to target sites it believes militants are using to fire rockets into israel. palestinians say 50 civilians killed so far. joining us no now -- joining us now is a fox news strategic analyst. as i look at the military news that m co -- that comes out of the middle east, i'm struck by one thing, israel's missile defense it has. isn't this one of the most important weapons of modern warfare? >> absolutely. very few weapons are touted as revolutionary. this is revolutionary. what you are doing with this iron dome that shoots an anti-missile, missile into the sky in very short notice, rapidly detected and knocks a rocket or missile out of the sky, stuart, basically what you are doing is firing a bullet to stop a bullet mid-flight. it is astonishing. there are two game changers here. stuart: hold on a second, colonel. i'm sorry, is it working? i'm told that a lot of the rockets are stopped by iron dome, but not all of them. >> well, not all are. that's true for two reasons: one, the iron dome system has not yet been fully deployed. there are more batteries coming. at some point it is just a matter of numbers. if you fire more rockets, then there are missiles to take them out of the sky than some get through. that's a problem. that leads to number two, the way people will try to overwhelm this, whether it's anti-missile defenses on our aircraft carriers or iron dome, is to overwhelm them with numbers. but past a certain point, as long as you can knock down the strategic and operational rockets, ones that could hit tel aviv, they could hit jerusalem, it truly has a revolutionary impact. stuart: i had one report that suggested there were two larger scale rockets that had been fired in to israel, iron dome had knocked down both of them. these were not the normal -- the smaller rockets. these were two larger scale ones. both of them were knocked out of the sky. it occurs to me, though, if one of the big ones gets through, that's a real problem. that changes the whole face of the middle east, doesn't it? >> well, it does, but there are advantages. you know, the bigger the rocket, the bigger the target. the bigger the rocket, the longer the flight path. therefore the more time. it could be a matter of microseconds, but the more time you have to detect it and knock it down. so there are certainly trade-offs. but the ultimate game changer on the islamist terrorist side would be the advent of weapons of mass destruction, especially nukes. but the iron dome system really, this is a testament to the -- not only to israel's military capability, but to its remarkable technological capability. now iron dome was developed in concert with the united states. we have worked together on this. but nonetheless, there's this little tiny state in the middle east, the only real success story in the middle east has, coming up with something over which we alone labored for decades. it's astonishing. stuart: but it would change the situation on the ground elsewhere in the world. i mean, i'm thinking of north korea. they fire sauf the occasional -- they fire off the occasional rocket or missile, aimed at someplace else, japan for example, an iron dome system that could knock it out of the sky would change the whole equation. i think that would be true of a lot of other places around the world. and israel has iron dome. >> it will take time for it to proliferate, very sophisticated technology, it's protected, not going to pop up elsewhere overnight. yes, that's why i say it is ultimately is a revolutionary development, but the history of warfare and weapons tells us that for every revolutionary development, there's ultimately a counterrevolution. it will take time. the meantime, the bad guys' response is going to be volume of fire, try to throw in so many rockets and missiles that overwhelms iron dome similar defenses, but over time scientists will -- whether it's advanced technology for missiles or something else, there will be a counter. it's a never-ending give and take. and sad to say, stuart, warfare has proven to be the most ingenious field for human innovation in our history as a species. stuart: very true, sir. thanks for joining us colonel ralph peters. always a pleasure. a new report on climate change from the world bank calling it the biggest challenge to social justice. here's what the president of the world bank says: quote, the time is very, very short. the world has to tackle the problem of climate change more aggressively. we will never end poverty if we don't tackle climate change. not just him, our own leaders are blaming superstorm sandy on climate change. >> climate change is an extremely important issue for me and i hope we can address it reasonably. it's something as we have seen these storms that are overwhelming our country and the world, we need to do something about it. >> but it is undeniable, but there is climate change. you can have a great political argument about what caused the climate change. whatever the cause, it is happening. >> i'm a firm believer that climate change is real, that it is impacted by human behavior and carbon emissions. stuart: i can see a carbon tax coming, can't you? we also have this from toys "r" us chief, this is what he told the financial times, people should stop on-line shopping, he says, because people are just o so -- how interactive it is. they are not thinking about the carbon footprint of that. but that will change. i ask you, is a carbon tax coming? >> it's amazing. it sounds crazy what they are saying. any sort of tax with the obama administration, i mean he's going to do it, it's going to be tax, tax, tax, because we're broke, we don't have the money, any excuse to do it. i think it sounds nuts. i mean there's no proof of this. i mean, where's the proof? they never come up with the proof. they say we know this is happening. we know there's global warming. really? where's the proof? i have never seen it. stuart: they have won the pr battle. they have convinced people. some poll i think 68% of voters thought that climate change is a very serious issue. need to do something about it. they won. tom: you say it enough times, it will be. you are right, it is marketing 101. the thing about it is you talk to the meteorologists out there and most of them are very adamant about the fact that this hurricane sandy was just part of a cycle, and in the 1950s, there were three hurricanes which hit the new york area, between august of 54 and august of 55. we're back into that cycle. now, is the earth warming? well, it was, then it started cooling back down again. and now -- you know, the scientists are just politicizing this. and the politicians are going for it. stuart: i just see the writing on the wall coming from various spots. go for it because it brings in a lot of money. >> that's right. tom: if you have research dollars for your climate change study. stuart: yeah, i will find some climate change, believe me, i will. tom: exactly. stuart: got to move on to a different subject even though the dow is nicely higher this morning, up 144 points as we speak. that's a monday morning rally, bounceback from the losses so far this month. american farmers could be one of the groups hit hardest with higher taxes when the bush era tax cuts expire at the end of the year. 97% of american farms will be subjected to an estate tax where the exemption is only 1 million dollars. the estate tax for farmers would jump 20% in january if congressional leaders don't do something about it. joining us now is scott shellidy, is chicago commodity trader, but this man ands and operates -- man owns and operates a farm. as of january 1, an estate of over a million dollars is taxed at a maximum of 55% rate. so you just get is a million dollars excluded. lots of family farms have a value of million dollars or way more. so to pay the tax, if you subjected to it, you have to sell the farm. is there no exclusion for family farms from this rule, scott? >> well, no, but there should be. stuart, it's bad enough that the farmer has to fight the weather. but now we have to fight uncle sam? i mean, it's poetic justice that the government has flooded our markets with central bank easing and quantitative easing which has made something like real estate inflate in value. they really inflated our landowners' values just to sock them in the pocket with this estate tax. going back to climate change, i would like to see a climate change on capitol hill. stuart: you own a farm. does this affect you? are you taking steps to avoid this? what are you going to do? >> we have absolutely taken steps to avoid it. because you know what? if the estate tax happened upon my family farm right now, the children of the family could not afford to keep the farm. so my question is to the general consumer out there, who is going to farm when the farmer can't afford to farm anymore or when the government taxes the farmer out of business? because there isn't really a good answer for that. stuart: surely the message goes out to our accountants to say hey, get me out of this. give me an estate plan so that if i pass away, and the estate goes to the estate tax people, i've got to avoid that. there are ways of doing it, surely. >> yes, there are, and the government is doing a great job of keeping those estate planners in jobs, but at some point in time, even if you've got yourself protected as much as possible, that tax can still put you out of business. so we have to have some sort of relief or have something going forward that the family farm can get out from underneath this and just do what they're good at doing best. stuart: you guys in chicago, you have a lobby for this. look, i'm a family farmer. you're a family farmer. you have to do something about it. you've got to get a family farm exclusion somehow or another. can you work on that, please? >> we need to have that little box on our tax form so we can check it off. stuart: yes, just check it right off. all right scott shellady, i wish you well in this endeavor. thank you very much. tom: the farmers are always the example used, but let's say you have a $400,000 house and a $500,000 insurance policy and this and everything else, that 500,000 insurance policy adds to your estate when you die, you're at a million bucks like that. >> farmers work so hard. they deserve a break here. it's really unfair. they work so hard. growing up in a farming community, these are the people if anyone deserves a break, they do. stuart: yeah. if you cash in -- if you pass away, a life insurance policy pays, there's no tax when that payment is made, but that adds to your estate and could put you over the threshold for high tax rate. tom: not if you keep the policy in a trust. stuart: you're a financial planner. tom: i was. stuart: you need to brush up on that because it might be useful. dow is up 140. democrats are demanding higher taxes on the rich, and according to a new poll, the majority of people agree. scott rasmussen did the poll. he's next. twins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligations, but obligatio. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expens. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal. stuart: i'm going to call this a solid monday morning stock market rally. look at this, please. the dow industrials up 142. that puts them back above 12,700. at the top of the hour, we have the existing home sales figures, up 2% in october compared to september. and the annual selling rate went up to 4.79 million homes. that's pretty good. well, it's not as good as it was. but it is better. it is better okay. wal-mart is moving up its dividend payout. very interesting. it will pay shareholders on december 27th instead of early january. next year as had been scheduled they were going to pay the dividend, now they have moved into this year so those people who get the money will pay a lower tax on that dividend. okay? here comes the fiscal cliff, everyone. wal-mart is not saying why it did this, but you can be pretty sure it is the tax advantages to those people getting the dividend payment. all right, everybody, back in 90 seconds with scott rasmussen. stuart: the latest poll from rasmussen shows that 57% of voters favor raising taxes on people making more than $250,000 a year. joining us now of course is scott rasmussen from rasmussen reports. is that number 57%, is that up or down since before the election? >> it's up just a little bit. but what we're seeing is democrats overwhelmingly support the concept. unaffiliated voters tend to support it. two out of three republicans don't. stuart, i think the most fascinating part of it all is people don't see this as a path to reducing the deficit. only 19% think that raising these taxes is a way to reduce the deficit. it's a fairness issue in the minds of most americans. stuart: that's it. it's a fairness issue. they've got it. i want more of it because the government needs the money. so it's, you know, that's the way it is. beat up on the rich, that's what it is, isn't it? >> well, that's part of it. here's the other part that i find really interesting, among those who are at $100,000 or more, half say it is okay. we can all kick in a little bit more. however, when we said okay, is it better to raise rates or cut those deductions? people who make more than $100,000 a year are adamantly opposed to having their personal deductions removed or fazed out. they're much more comfortable with an increase in the rates. stuart: did you have any figure on people making more than $250,000 a year, who would be directly affected? >> we don't have a good enough sample on that size so i can't give you some numbers on that. but look overall, what we do know in general is that people who are in the lower or middle income categories are more resistent to tax hikes than people who earn a little bit more because people who earn a little bit more can afford it. that is their attitude as well as lower income people's view. stuart: i think the administration, the democrats are going to grab this report, this 57% and say look, we're going to do this, we are going to raise tax rates on the rich. i mean, if you look at your entire poll there, they are going to use this as ammunition, if you like,,to do it. i think you've got another poll that looks at the likelihood of whether we get a deal, this fiscal cliff deal by january the 1st. what's the number there? >> 51% say it's at least somewhat likely we get a deal. 42% say it's not. most people are somewhere in between. only 15% say it's very likely. only 14% say not at all likely. that means about 7 out of 10 americans are saying i'm not really sure, but i think it is going one way or the other. the other thing they are very confident about is even if we get a short-term fiscal cliff deal, hardly anybody expects a longer term deal to rein in entitlement spending or military spending. stuart: that's a pretty grim outlook. thank you very much scott. i say given a poll like that and given the victory two weeks ago by president obama scene the democrats -- and the democrats, i think the writing is on the wall. i think the tax rates on rich people go up. i don't like it. i think it is a terrible thing. lousy policy. won't help the economy. won't help the deficit, but i think it is going to happen. tom: the republicans are going to cave because they see those polls and say we don't want people to not like us. they are afraid to do what they need to do. >> it is a fairness issue. it is unfair to tax the job earners and people who have done well, it is unfortunate we're going to punish people who have been successful. it is not the american way. stuart: yes, but it is going to happen. my take on global warming, the money grab. that's next. >> i don't know what's going to happen. i do think the unions certainly could have done a better job, for example, communicating with the teamsters, with their fellow unionists about what was going on. i don't think anybody acted particularly well here. stuart: the unions. that was phil dine in our last hour on who pushed hostess over the edge and into bankruptcy. the company is in court today asking a judge by the way to approve its liquidation plan. time for market check, this is a rally. the dow industrials up 153 points. nicole, shares of the home improvement store lowe's, straight up i think, why is that? nicole: great day for lowe's. they are the number two best performer on the s&p 500. the stock is at the highest point since early 2007. they came out with quarterly sales and profit that beat the street, raised the outlook. they have been cutting costs. couple of things that are home -- better home and market overall. plus hurricane sandy. what's interesting is they had selection of kitchen bathroom products and small tools which helped them along. however, they still have lost some market share to home depot. their sales still lag home depot. stuart: that's interesting. nicole thank you very much indeed. california simply doesn't get it. it can't get its priorities straight. now in san diego, you could face jail time if you wash your car in your driveway or you don't clean up after your dog? 10:47 eastern this morning, this program, san diego councilmember explains why the law and why is the city is so out of touch. have you noticed our climate change has suddenly come back into the headlines? it barely registered during the election campaign, but then with superstorm sandy, climate change came back as a big issue. what's going on? here's my take: i'm not going to argue about global warming. that's not the point. my point is this particular outbreak of climate change fever is a money grab. this is an issue which could produce a gusher of money for the government. here's how: you want to reduce carbon emissions; right? what emits carbon? fossil fuels. that is coal, oil, natural gas. and they're easy targets because they are the easiest to tax. that's the gusher of money. the carbon tax. the government brings in the cash while doing good. after sandy, 68% of voters thought climate change was a serious concern, so if the government says it is going to do something about it, then government is addressing the concerns of the people. you have political support, taxing the polluters is very popular. you see the golden opportunity here? the government desperately needs money, and a carbon tax of some sort brings in trillions. ignore the higher cost of power. you're saving the planet and cutting the deficit and poking big oil in the eye again. follow the money, it's usually the motivating force behind policy. i hate to be cynical, but how else could this administration raise taxes by trillions and bask in the applause of a grateful world? 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>> yes. stuart: is it the best tablet? >> yes, and it actually comes down to a couple things. one is the design and the other is 275,000 applications that are tailor-made for tablet use. so one of the things that apple says is that the competition and they are right about this a lot of android tablets as well designed as they are, when you go into the app store a lot of them looked like stretched out phone applications. developers think about the tablet use first. when you go into e-mail, inbox on the left hand side just like computer and latest messages on the right. there are a lot of examples like that where the developers think just like on the iphone, they go ios first and then everyone else after that. that doesn't mean there isn't really good competition in that space. stuart: right. what's up and coming amongst tablets? >> i think for the holidays if you are on a budget i think the 199 kindle fire hd which is among the top tablets on our list, came up with a top 12 hottest tablets in our gadget gift guide. that one was an easy call. stuart: is it the top? >> i would say -- no, we put it at a close number two or three depending on your budget just because the budget is a really big concern. and amazon is doing something that apple isn't. they are paying really close attention to parental controls. when you hand off that tablet to your kid, you want to make sure a they are not running up your bill and b they are protected from certain content. you can set up profiles and set up screen time which is a big concern for parents. stuart: how about samsung, they have a tablet out, is it any good? >> they have a couple. our favorite is the galaxy note 10.1 because you can use a pen for not only note taking when you are in meetings but also do things like let's say if you are in your inbox and you want to see what's that e-mail, they are doing more with pen input not just for creative types but for business users. stuart: let me summarize this in terms of what you like, what you think is the best. up front the apple ipad and ipad mini. >> yes. stuart: that's the best? >> yes, because the ipad mini is coming up. it's a lot less expensive than the latest 499 ipad which is our top tablet because you are getting twice the performance in something that's really portable. stuart: do you like the amazon kindle fire? >> yes. stuart: number two? >> yeah, i also -- we also like the google 7. google is paying a lot of attention to their app market and also premium content. in a little over a year, i think -- [inaudible]. it is also at 199. you have a lot more access to games and that sort of thing. i think that one is in there. stuart: as all of our viewers know and our company knows, i'm a microsoft stockholder. have you been playing around with the microsoft surface, do you like it? >> there are some things i do like about it. but it is also a work in progress. their app store is just getting off the ground. they have just a few thousand applications right now. there are a couple benefits for business users. for example, they have this touch cover. you know the smart cover that comes with the ipad that's magnetic. this one actually doubles as a key board, so that's really good. and also you get office built in. that's the number one thing that people complain about the ipad in terms of productivity is where's office. there's some rumors it is coming to the ios store but you can get it now in the surface. stuart: have you been to the new microsoft retail stores? >> yes. stuart: are there any good? >> it is very apple like i guess you could say. stuart: is it as good as apple? when i walk into an apple store, they're terrific. they guide you into the entire operation. they won't let you go until you are satisfied. >> right after the surface launch, we went into a microsoft store in new jersey, i was impressed not only with the enthusiasm of the store employees but also their knowledge. one thing about the surface for example is it runs this operating system called windows rt which is different than windows 8. it doesn't run your traditional desk top applications that you guys have, just the new apps from the windows store. that was one of the first questions i asked and this guy knew it cold. i think overall their enthusiasm is good. despite the fact it looks like an apple store and they are ripping them off in terms of the aesthetics, i think they are on to something. stuart: thank you very much indeed. come see us again soon. we told you earlier about toys "r" us chief telling the financial times that people should stop on line shopping because quote they aren't thinking about the carbon footprint, end quote. wait for it, now according to the "wall street journal," toys "r" us plans to make a push in both brick and mortar and on-line shopping in china, where the environment isn't exactly a priority. ing is this -- is this a contradiction? tom: i'm having a little trouble with this. i'm not doing anything to my carbon footprint when i'm shopping on-line. why should i drive all over the place? let the ups guy who is more efficient in getting that package to me. stuart: he's talking up his book, isn't he? >> i love to shop. i'm going to shop every day. i know you don't like it. they can have kiosks with a bar in the middle of the mall and that would work, that could be a new business. stuart: toys "r" us does not believe that people buy toys on-line from toys "r" us. they think they go to brick and mortar stores. tom: have you been in a toys "r" us store in december? >> it's chaos, but it is fun. that's the way it should be. stuart: i'm the guy with six kids. i know. >> it is part of christmas. stuart: a six year prison sentence for not cleaning up after your dog. $100,000 fine for allowing your sprinklers to hit the sidewalk, you criminal, sounds crazy; right? but in san diego they are talking about that as a law. we will deal with it next. @ [ male announcer ] this is the age of knowing what you're made of. why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? 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[ male announcer ] break from e holiday stress. fedex office. stuart: you know, some of us that say california has gone over the edge, but even this i suspect is too much even for california. new proposed environmental rules in san diego, you cannot wash your car in your driveway. when watering your grass, you must not get water on the sidewalk. and you must immediately clean up after your dog, even your own backyard. and the penalties could be six years in jail. what? joining us now is san diego's city councilman carl demaio, a frequent guest on this program and very welcome guest. i don't believe this. have we got this right? if i don't clean up after my dog, the penalty could be six years in jail. say it ain't so, karl? >> these regulations are crazy. it's a proposal that reflects the wrong way to achieve clean water, not through the heavy hand of government mandates and turning neighbor against neighbor because that's what they are encouraging, neighbors to turn in and report on their neighbors. we need to take a different approach to achieving better environmental quality. stuart: am i right? this is a serious proposal? you cannot wash your car -- >> absolutely. stuart: you can't wash your car in your driveway; right? >> yeah, the rules are being proposed by the regional water control board and various other entities that have regulatory authority down here in southern california. in particular, the san diego county region. and so we're trying to fight these ideas because we believe there's a better way, providing incentives through conservation programs and education. but not the heavy hand of mandate and fines and encouraging neighbors to turn in other neighbors. stuart: it's not just a heavy hand. it's lunacy. >> i agree. stuart: okay. are you telling me that it's the water control board that's setting up these regulations and if you don't clean up after yoor dog in your backyard, that somehow or another can filter in the water supply, is that the rationale for this? >> that's the rationale, and this is a board that's really gone overboard when it comes to trying to achieve a good goal, which is clean water. beaches that have clean water quality. but it is not the right approach. there are so many other ways to have a bigger impact on the environment and water quality, and this is just simply designed to create a bigger bureaucracy. they will have to hire government employees to take these complaints, and then of course go investigate, and ultimately levy sanctions against citizens here in san diego. stuart: how do you think the rest of us elsewhere in america, outside the formerly golden state, how do you think we should look at you guys, you californians? what do you think we ought to think about? >> well, i think it is pretty embarrassing which is why i think when these absurd ideas are proposed, we need to have san alternative. -- we need to have an alternative. we have to have common sense solutions. i think that's what californians want. stuart: no you don't. what was the point spread for president obama in california? what was the point spread in favor of higher taxes? >> i think if this idea in particular were put up for a public vote, it would resoundingly be rejected. i think that's why we need to be vigilant. we have to continue to shine a light on bad ideas like these and offer credible alternatives that will achieve a better result by using partnerships, by using incentives and by really encouraging better education and awareness. stuart: the voice of sanity, one of the few in san diego, always a pleasure. come back and see us soon please. thank you sir. >> thanks for having me. stuart: you are a californian. tom: i know. listen, there are people running for public office in california that have no lives, and they want to stick their nose into your life. that's really what you have. you have a collection of them out there. stuart: i used to live in california. i lived in northern california, same time as you did. five years in san francisco. paradise on earth. it was prosperous, dynamic, free, wonderful place. now, bankrupt. what happened? explain yourself. tom: i've asked these people and i had one tell me, i don't have a life. and i couldn't believe what she told me. >> i think they have really lost it. it's amazing. tom: when there's a drought, they go along and find water in the gutter and follow it to your house and give you a ticket for it. stuart: tom, you have to come back. >> my goodness sake. california dreaming. stuart: unions officially kill hostess, the company is in liquidation and wal-mart thousands of pro-union workers promising to protest the store on black friday. both of those stories are coming up next. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal. >> coming up tonight at 7:00 eastern, the president and speaker boehner act like they will steer clear of the cliff. and david petraeus comes clean on benghazi, sort of. what was really going on? former pacific police commander with his fascinating theory tonight 7:00 eastern. stuart: the management at hostess, the twinkie people says the baker's union forced the company into liquidation. the union workers blame bad management. tom, who killed the twinkie? tom: the union has a responsibility tot go and get as much as they can but not kill the golden goose, but the management whether it's general motors or whether it's hostess has a responsibility to not sign contracts and make promises they can't afford. i think it was a badly managed company. stuart: interesting. interesting. next case, black friday, one of wal-mart's biggest days of the year, now wal-mart is facing an employee uprising of sorts. a group that wants to unionize is trying to lead a protest against wal-mart on black friday, big day for retailers, day after thanksgiving. >> i think they had something to do with killing twinkies, i'm so mad at them, i can't believe they are trying to kill thanksgiving at wal-mart too, bad unions, they should have some turkey and get over it. stuart: the company says it is a very very small group of people that would do something on black friday. it's just a whole protest. >> let people shop and let them have their thanksgiving. they are taking advantage of the fact it is black friday. they get a black mark. stuart: i think the administration is going to encourage people -- the unions going after wal-mart, president obama is no -- >> they are pro-union, that's for sure the administration. tom: i may actually go shopping on wal-mart just because. >> are you going to protest? tom: i have never been at a wal-mart but i'm going friday. stuart: are you kidding? why? tom: i don't know, i don't shop. stuart: are you a target kind of guy? >> i'm walking out of target the other day, you love it, i saw you. stuart: bottom line is, men don't like to shop. women do like to shop. >> it's actually true. tom: it is true. >> i accept that. if i could shop every day, i would shop every morning noon and evening. stuart: really? >> yeah i love it. stuart: i get tired when i walk into the mall. i'm looking at the door. >> we should go to macy's, love it, do a field trip. miracle on 34th street, taking these guys to macy's. stuart: varney & company continues after this. announcer: the smallest moments can have the biggest impact on a child's life. take time to be a dad today. learn more at fatherhood.gov. stuart: we came on board this morning and looked at the dow jones industrial average and saw a rally. it is upright now. tom sullivan, still a financial guy. what is going on with the market? >> we have been selling down for six weeks now. there are points where people will buy back in. i will go with goldman sachs. stuart: by the end of the year? >> i think there will be a deal before the end of the year. tax rates on the rich will go on. this market goes up significantly. there will be a spike. it will be temporary. 2013, we are looking at lower earnings ahead. stuart: okay. let me look at the price of gold. we were up earlier. that is the fiscal cliff clock. 1733 on the price of gold right now. >> gold is good right now. i see it spiking up big-time. stuart: do you think that has something to do with bernanke printing up a storm next year? >> yes. they have to cut a deal. people are buying up the gold. buying up the guns. >> bernanke is partly the reason for a little work it rally temporarily. i think qe4 will be announced pretty soon. stuart: we are two or three people on this program late last week talking about investing in swagger. [talking over each other] >> they are talking about things that go good in insulation. i think that inflation will be much, much higher. stuart: he has been a hard money man. >> 30 years. stuart: that is a long time. [ laughter ] all right, everybody. we are just about out of time. thank you for being with us. >> let's go shopping. [ laughter ] [talking over each other] stuart: it is time for dagen and
firefighters battling the blaze. we'll have the latest from yosemite national park, coming up. > > >plus-an overnight shooting in union city has neighborswe'll explain what happened coming up in a live report. morning, i'm marty gonzalez. we'll have more on those stories in just a few minutes. but first let's take a live look outside. morning as we take a live look at the san mateo bridge. let's check in with janu for your sunday forecast. >> janu: good morning, a cloudy start. with 40's yesterday we are mainly in low 60s for the inland spots. and as we are not going to see much more. reconditions and the mid 80s inland. a bit more than what we saw yesterday with 70's for the coast. and 60s and inland. we will break down your temperatures, neighborhood by neighborhood, coming up. >> thank-you, janu. on to our top story this morning. winds gusting 30 to 40 miles an hour today could make it tough for crews fighting the rim fire. that massive fire burning in parts of yosemite national park is just seven- per cent contained this morning. if the flames are further fanned, thousands of rural homes could be threatened. that fire is burning 133- thousand acres. it's already put more than 55- hundred homes in danger. park employees are also taking extra precautions to protect two groves of giant sequoia trees. kron four's philippe djegal is near the fire, in groveland, with an update. >> reporter: this is the 8 day. dozens of residents have been showing up at the fire center that details on the map, where the fire has consumed. so far, some progress. the fire only grew about 3,000 a. on saturday with a 7 percent containment but they still have their hands full. with extremely rugged, difficult terrain for the firefighters. making it nearly impossible and we know that this is the 20th largest fire in the recorded history. and there are more than 2600 firefighters working in the evacuation advisories have been lifted for the community of pine mountain lake. however, there is an advisory for the community of toulomne city we spoke with some residents. and they were making contingency plans to make sure to pack up and get ready. we will share some of their stories at 9:00 a.m. corridor. in toulumne county, philippe djegal, kron four news. >> in just a week, the rim fire is becoming one of the biggest active wildfires in the country. continuing our coverage, kron 4's charles clifford shows us where the fire has burned so far and also how it's affecting yosemite national park. >> reporter: in just a week the rim fire has become one of the largest active wildfires in the county and one of the largest fires in california history. i want to show you just how fast this fire has spread. this is an overhead google earth view of yosemite national park. the rim fire started to the west of the park, last saturday, here along highway 120. the red area that you see here is the perimeter of the fire on monday, when about 10 thousand acres had burned. here's how the fire looked on tuesday when 16 thousand acres were lost. here's the fire on wednesday when it had doubled in size and here's the fire on thursday. on friday the fire just exploded in size and entered yosemite national park. it also grew to the west. and here's how the fire looked on saturday morning. it's burned about 125 thousand acres. about 200 square miles. now i want to focus on two areas.. nasa also collects data on wildfires and they can pinpoint hot spots using satellites and weather stations. so let's add in that data and you can see that nasa is seeing hotspots along the perimeter of the fire. the area in the middle has already burned so the active fire is along the edges. now i want to focus on two areas. to the east, the fire is burning inside yosemite near cherry lake and lake eleanor. a little further east the fire has come within two miles of the hetch hetchy reservoir. hetch hetch is san francisco's main water supply and there's also a hydroelectric plant. so the flames are literally right over the ridge from hetch hetchy. on the west side of the fire the flames are very close to the community of pine mountain lake. here... crews are working hard to keep the fire north of ferretti road.. here... and so far they have done a good job, although many of these homes have been evacuated. the town of groveland is also very close and everyone who has been evacuated is being sent to two evacuation centers. one to the north in the town of sonora and the other is to the south in greely. in the newsroom charles clifford kron 4 >> new this morning. police are investigating a homicide in union city. it happened overnight at the intersection of 11th and "d" streets. kron four's mike pelton has the details. >> reporter: these are the first murder victims since the 2011 in union city. they have no suspects. the coroner's office removed the bodies and they are cleaning up this intersection this was the scene, earlier. we are having some audio issues we will get back to mike pelton as soon as we can. >> new this morning. syria is agreeing to allow the u-n inspectors to visit the site of last week's alleged chemical attack. the two sides are working to set a time and date of the visit. activists say last weeks alleged attack killed hundreds of civilians in rebel-held areas around damascus. still to come on the kron four news weekend. a young man from austraila, attending an oklahoma university is being remembered this morning after he was shot and killed this past week. coming up at 8:10, we'll show you how friends and family are remembering the vibrant young soccer player. and we are just three days away from the bay bridge completely closing to traffic. coming up at 8:15, we'll be talking to political analyst michael yaki about *why the governor is forgoing the opening ceremony. and tensions between the united state and syria are rising. this is all after another chemical attack in the middle east. coming up at 8:45, we'll tell you what the obama administration says about the recent attacks. >> a small town in oklahoma is in mourning after the shooting death of an australian baseball player. friday residents gathered to remember christopher lane one week after he was gunned down while jogging. kim passoth has more. (music) >> reporter: it's been one week since "chris lane" was gunned-down in a drive-by shooting in duncan... lane was an exchange student from australia in duncan spending the week with his girlfriend koco's kim passoth was at the memorial and joins us live from duncan. kim - what a night. chris lane was shot just up the street from this elementary school and tonight the ceremony in his memory was held here. though the exchange student didn't grow up here and didn't live here - this town is grieving his death just as if he were one of their own. >> there's a peace i've come to know though my heart and flesh may fail. >> reporter: hundreds of people with lawn chairs australian flags and sorrow in their hearts gathered to reflect and remember a young man most had never met. >> we just want to be here to show support >> it not something to be prayer and healing 10:07 >> reporter: chris lane's baseball teammates were among the crowd and so too was duncan native former lt. governor jari askins >> duncan oklahoma is a lot more than the three faces that have been on world wide news. >> reporter: she says the world should come to know duncan not for these three faces but for the faces of those who opened their hearts. natural sound for the former politician - - this shooting was personal. she's been friends with chris lane's girlfriend's mother for 30 years. >> its just a reminder that a random act of violence could happen to anyone 6:29 >> reporter: she urges her community not focus on the 3 teens who took a life - but the life that was lost - a life of promise cut short and a life now inspiring others even in death. (music) >> three young men have been charged in connection with lane's murder. the community suspects the shooting may have been race- related, though the district attorney said it will not be prosecuted as a hate crime. there are also suspicions it was part of a gang initiation. still ahead on kron four news weekend. the "rim" wildfire in yosemite has grown to 129-thousand acres. why today could be another challenge for fire crews. coming up after the break we'll be speaking with cal fire spokesperson daniel berlant who will be updating us on the fire. this live look next. (music) >> we continue to follow the latest with the wildfire burning in yosemite national park. joining us on the phone is cal fire spokesperson daniel berlant, good morning daniel. >> caller: good morning. >> it sounds like the weather is planning a major role. specifically about gusting winds. >> caller: absolutely we are expecting 50 m.p.h. south- wind that will not only hamper our efforts as it continues to press the fire further to the north. >> can you tell us about those communities with these evacuations are their homes in danger? >> caller: touloumme city and several of these area homes have been under advisory with contingency lines. inside and outside of the communities. we continue to bring more equipment and fire fighters as the fire does make it there we do have a plan. >> just to give people an understanding of the massive sense of this fire. it is about the size of the city of chicago is that correct? >> caller: absolutely, it is the 15th largest in recorded history. and also one of the struggles that we have with a fire this size is unstable weather pattern. and it makes it iraq. with extreme fire behavior. deftly, challenging in the last couple of days. today, we have 2400 firefighters battling with remote areas and working hard. >> daniel, one last question, what are we looking at as far as the next couple of days for the weather? >> caller: hopefully, the wind will subside after today it has been one of the biggest challenges. nearly 2900 firefighters, as a correction we have a really working towards containment and putting a stop towards this massive fire. and with the warm temperatures, the typical weather the we see this time of year is not ideal for fight fighting fire fighters. thank you, daniel. let us check-in with janu. >> janu: fog half and coastal drizzle. as we go for this afternoon we are looking for mainly sunny conditions and pop-up showers but mainly greasy. and even slightly cooler than what we saw yesterday with me -- breezy. some sunshine and a bit of a warm up for the rest of the work week. here is for temperatures are starting. mid 60s in san francisco oakland. san jose, and currently in livermore. 60 degrees in santa rosa as for go for this afternoon, slightly cooler temperatures but still decent with 80s inland. and for the east bay in the valleys we are looking at low 80s to pittsburgh, antioch. low mid 70's for the east bay shore. and topping out at 67 degrees in ocean beach. with a mixture of '70s and '80s in the north bay. however, these cooler temperatures are because of this system to the north of us. up showers possible but it is really just that when and that is mainly going to beat the system component. >> we have been talking about the bay bridge for several months. and what about the politics?joining us now is analyst michael yaki. it seems like governor jerry brown has backed away from the grand gala. they are going to perhaps have a ceremony but governor brown is not going to show up but lt. gov gavin newson --. >> i >> studio guest: i think that is appropriate. and i have a feeling that this is very subdued. i think that governor jerry brown is sending a message that how much of a celebration are going to have? this was much over budget. and it is not really the perfect bridge it has to be retrofitted and instead, to me they are putting a gorgeous c clamsp.. but it is -- enormous-c clamps. fbut apparently, the difficulties that they have been having. >> lt. gov. gavin newson is going to be there but what about what who else is going to be there? >> studio guest: whether or not they want to invite but at the same time the mayor did have a role in the delay. in terms of treasure island that he supported i remember when i was on the board i thought that one of three going to get a bridge? we eventually got the pete wilson on-ramp. it was much more expensive and now, >> that is my next question what are the tolls are going to go up but by how much? >> studio guest: i think that with all things, the tolls, with perhaps a $1 increase. there are going to be other areas that they are going to be looking at as well. this is a great bridge, we hope. but there are other areas that we need to look at as well. >> definitely and how about the yosemite fire. with all of this new information, the big worry is the and san francisco utility & power. >> studio guest: there are three different power houses and one of them is the hetch hetchy and the cherry lake that are inside the fire area right now. the problem is not so much the water quality as is the fire going to take of the infrastructure of the power lines. basically, it gives the san francisco the ability to buy spot power on the open market if they lose power. meet the needs of the infrastructure. for the airport, or high-speed rail, not exactly the small customer. however, it is important to give the city to purchase extra power and get reimbursed for it on the open market. >> we are just getting started with michael and next hour we are going to be talking about overseas developments with syria. >> a big corn its nest. in the next a big -- hornets nest indeed..... this is our ocean spray cran-lemonade.o tire swings! only be! whoa! ocean spy cran-lemonade. a bold tst on an old favorite. that you may not have time to roll out dough for a perfectly flaky crust that's made from scratch. or enough time to mix vegetables with all white meat chicken and a homemade gravy. she knows you may not have a moment to crimp the edges of yo favorite chicken pot pie. but marie callender's does. and when she's don all you need to do is find ti to grab someone special, sit down, and savor. marie callender's. it's time to savor. >> on to our top story this morning. winds gusting 30 to 40 miles an hour today could make it tough for crews fighting the rim fire. that massive fire burning in parts of yosemite national park is just seven-per cent contained this morning. if the flames are further fanned, thousands of rural homes could be threatened. that fire is burning 133- thousand acres. it's already put more than 55-hundred homes in danger. park employees are also taking extra precautions to protect two groves of giant sequoia trees. 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>> reporter: this a double homicide is the first murder not just for this year, but since the year, 2011. this is even more difficult for the police with no suspects. the body was removed shortly by the coroner's is just a few moments ago. during the 11th/ d intersection and it neighborho heard gunshots. one man however has already died in hospital. once they heard gunshots the ran outside and looked to see if they could help. >> i went right outside to see if i could help because i did not even care if i was going to get shot because i knew that somebody needed my help. >> thank god >> the woman you heard from broke down in tears of the second man died in hospital at these victims seem to be young men in their 20s. they still lead witnesses to come forward. mike pelton in union city, kron 4 news. >> a marin city man shot by police in san francisco's marina district is suspected of fatally stabbing his mother. police say the suspect was shot by u-s park police officers around 11 friday night. the body of the mans mother was found her marin city home earlier in the evening. officers found the suspect getting off a bus. they say he threatened the officers with a knife. that's when officers fired their weapons. the suspect is currently being treated for multiple gun shot wounds. >> following news of another shooting. this time in san jose. it happened yesterday afternoon near downtown in the area of north third and east julian streets. police found a man, suffering from a gun shot wound. he was taken to the hospital where he later died. the gunman is still on the loose. this is san jose's 33rd homicide of the year. there were 46 homicides in san jose last year. >> in campbell, safeway supermarkets have agreed to reimburse rewards members and pay a fine for over- charging customers at a gas station. according to the santa clara county district attorney's office, safeway overcharged more than 700 credit card customers at a safeway gas station on hamilton avenue. the store chain paid a civil penalty of over 46- thousand dollars while not admitting any liability or wrongdoing in the case. >> coming up the latest with amanda doc amanda- knox... and also the recent san diego mayor resignation. and who is a front runner for his replacement. and new information from the obama administration. with chemical weapons in syria. a senior official saying that chemical weapons were used in the most recent attack. ♪ [ male announcer ] wouldn't it be great if all devices had backup power? 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and what's next for the city of san diego? kristy wolski has more. saturday afternoon council president todd gloria and councilman kevin faulconer attended a fundraiser for the challenged athletes foundation. there's been a lot of speculation that both may vie for the mayors seat now that bob filner is leaving office. >> 'i'll be making my decision in terms of my days, but what we need to focus on in san diego is getting back to the work at city hall.' >> reporter: when filner steps down on august 30th gloria will become the acting mayor -taking on limited executive duties until a new mayor is sworn in. we asked him if hes planning to join the race? >> 'it's a big decision to make on a dime. we're not gonna make it lightly, but for right now i want to make sure that a week from today we're ready to take on the responsibilities of the mayor's office.' >> reporter: already former mayoral candidates nathan fletcher and tobiah pettus have filed city's clerks office. carl demaio is also considering whether to run and it's likely more candidates will come forward this week. meanwhile the city council members say their priority is on getting san diego back on track. >> 'we now must return our focus to critical issues like public safety and especially infrastructure. >> 'it is time for the bleeding to stop, the healing to begin for us to bring back the stability and certainty we had here just a very short time ago.' >> a senior administration official says there is "very little doubt" that a chemical weapon was used by the syrian regime against civilians in an incident that killed at least a hundred people last week. that conclusion is based on an assessment given to the white house on the reported number of victims, reported symptoms, and witness accounts. secretary of defense chuck hagel says the administration is still deciding whether to use military force in syria. and that the administration is weighing many factors. including intelligence reports on the attack-- as well as legal issues and international support for any military response. and world leaders are weighing their options on a repsonse to the possible chemical attack. president obama discussed the issue with british prime minister david cameron by phone saturday. the white house says both leaders expressed "grave concern" over the reported use of nerve gas in damascus last wednesday. they plan to continue to consult closely regarding the incident. a statement from 10 downing street said chemical weapons would merit a serious response from the international community. the leaders want to examine all options. a syrian minister says the regime has never used chemical weapons in any form. >> the marines corps is looking for a few good women. the marines are opening infantry training to enlisted women. at this point it's just for research to determine what combat jobs may be open to women. newly enlisted woman marines will volunteer for the spots in the training battalion. those who complete the program will not be assigned to infantry units. and they will begin training this fall. coming up this live look outside. the approach to the bay bridge we will be right back. . female narrator: it's posturepedic versus beautyrest it's posturepedic versus beautyrest with up to $400 off. serta icomfort and tempur-pedic go head-to-head with three years' interest-free financing. mattress price wars are on now at sleep train. ♪ your ticket to a better night's sleep ♪ married to morty kaufma [ lee ] now that i'm getting older some things are harder do. this is n a safe thing do. be careful bab there should be somway to make it easi. 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(male announcer) this is the bay area news station, kron 4 news starts now. >> top stories we are following for you on this sunday august 25th. conditions of the "rim wildfire" worsen overnight. gusty winds are expected to pose a challenge for firefighters battling the blaze. we'll have the latest from yosemite national park, coming up. plus-- an overnight shooting in union city has neighbors on edge this morning. we'll explain what happened coming up in a live report. and syria just announcing it will allow the united nations to visit the site of a recent alleged chemical attack. what world leaders are saying about the recent conflicts. >> new this morning. police are investigating a homicide in union city. it happened overnight at the intersection of 11th and "d" streets. kron four's mike pelton has the details. >> reporter: there were two men gunned down and this was the scene, earlier. the neighbors heard gunshots at 1:00 a.m. and called 911. they found one man dead and the other man died at the hospital. at this point the victims appear to be young men in their 20s or even late teens. once they heard the shots they ran outside and tried to help. >> he tried to fight his hardest to keep him alive. and i tried to give him strength to keep him alive. my prayers are with his parents. >> reporter: it does not appear that they had guns but it is puzzling for the police. this is the first homicide in union city since the year, 2011. mike pelton, kron 4 news. >> let's take a quick look outside this morning. that is a live look at the golden gate bridge. let's check in with janu for your sunday forecast. >> janu: we are starting off with low clouds. temperatures on the coastal conditions and off to a warmer start compared to yesterday. 60s in downtown san francisco. 60s in concord and san jose and as we get a warmer start we are expecting to see temperatures warmer. marty? >> a ouron to our top story this morning. winds gusting 30 to 40 miles an hour today could make it tough for crews fighting the rim fire. that massive fire burning in parts of yosemite national park is just seven- per cent contained this morning. if the flames are further fanned, thousands of rural homes could be threatened. that fire is burning 133- thousand acres. it's already put more than 55- hundred homes in danger. park employees are also taking extra precautions to protect two groves of giant sequoia trees. kron four's philippe djegal is near the fire, in groveland, with an update. >> reporter: firefighters are still reporting the western edge blaze but it has not made its way into the iconic yosemite valley. that is 30-40 miles away so that is the good news. evacuation orders have been lifted for pine lake village they have been able to get back to their homes and their homes are okay. that is the good news however, fog last couple of days is been very smoky. and the specially in grove land but that is not the case in other areas. they're hoping to get a hand on this fire. they are using bulldozers and other equipment to get ahead of this fire. we saw fires setting up camp in tuloumne city it is moving north-west from where it started. the firefighters say that this is the 20th largest firefighter in state recorded history for california. certainly, this is going to be a priority to knock down some of these flames that you can see have been very, very high. we have been speaking with residents and this is what they had to say making contingency plans and getting ready to evacuate. even though it is just an evacuation advisory and not an evacuation order. >> i have to pack up photographs, things that cannot be replaced if the house burns down. we have insurance but we are able to replace things without the items that are sentimental. >> phillipe djegal, kron 4 news. >> in just a week, the rim fire is becoming one of the biggest active wildfires in the country. continuing our coverage, kron 4's charles clifford shows us where the fire has burned so far and also how it's affecting yosemite national park. top stories we are followingin just a week the rim fire has become one of the largest active wildfires in the county and one of the largest fires in california history. i want to show you just how fast this fire has spread. this is an overhead google earth view of yosemite national park. the rim fire started to the west of the park, last saturday, here along highway 120. the red area that you see here is the perimeter of the fire on monday, when about 10 thousand acres had burned. here's how the fire looked on tuesday when 16 thousand acres were lost. here's the fire on wednesday when it had doubled in size and here's the fire on thursday. on friday the fire just exploded in size and entered yosemite national park. it also grew to the west. and here's how the fire looked on saturday morning. it's burned about 125 thousand acres. about 200 square miles. now i want to focus on two areas.. nasa also collects data on wildfires and they can pinpoint hot spots using satellites and weather stations. so let's add in that data and you can see that nasa is seeing hotspots along the perimeter of the fire. the area in the middle has already burned so the active fire is along the edges. now i want to focus on two areas. to the east, the fire is burning inside yosemite near cherry lake and lake eleanor. a little further east the fire has come within two miles of the hetch hetchy reservoir. hetch hetch is san francisco's main water supply and there's also a hydroelectric plant. so the flames are literally right over the ridge from hetch hetchy. on the west side of the fire the flames are very close to the community of pine mountain lake. here... crews are working hard to keep the fire north of ferretti road.. here... and so far they have done a good job, although many of these homes have been evacuated. the town of groveland is also very close and everyone who has been evacuated is being sent to two evacuation centers. one to the north in the town of sonora and the greely. in the newsroom charles clifford kron 4 news. >> coming of the latest on that the search for daphne webb >> and also michael yaki will join us on the tensions with syria and a q & a. suspect who sexuallythe 32- year-old woman was >> it's been 7 weeks since toddler daphne webb went missing. the reward has been doubled to 20-thousand dollars. more than 45 search and rescue volunteers covered a location in oakland that the f-b-i helped identify. kron 4's alecia reid tells us more about the search, and why police thought they had a break in the case. >> reporter: daphne webb's family wants closure, but no news is good news tonight. search teams found items they believed were evidence in her disappearance, and that had the family on edge. >> it brings us back to reality that not only is she missing, there's a possibility that something bad could've happened to her. >> reporter: after close examination, detectives discovered those tools were left hidden by children that heard the search and rescue team and ran off. >> several shovels and a pick. what we found out was that there were some young men about 8-10 years old shaping the trails. they like to ride their mountain bikes and they were up there shaping the trails so it'd be of more interest to them. >> reporter: an east bay regional parks chopper flew over a specific area and took photographs to add to the investigation. on land, cadaver dogs roamed brushes near merritt college. >> from teeth to newly dead bodies. he won't find any live people, only human remains. we're looking for anything that he's trained for. >> they were so detailed and methodical in their search. it was a tough area to find these items. >> wherever she is i hope she's well taken care of but we want her back. >> reporter: this is an active missing persons homicide investigation. there is another area that will be searched. police have not yet disclosed that information. in oakland, alecia reed, kron 4 news. >> coming up on kron 4 news weekend-- a look at your weekend forecast with janu is just after the break. let's take a quick look outside this morning. the approach to the bay bridge. this is the last sunday before the closure. . ♪ [ female announcer ] wherever morning brings you, bring the energy you need. new nature valley soft-baked oatmeal squares. softly baked. made with hearty oatmeal and a drizzle of cinnamon. they're nature valley's brand new take on a morning classic. because when you keep going, the morning can bring you to brand new places. ♪ nature valley. nature at its most delicious. living on cloud nine with that u-verse wireless receiver. you see in my day, when my mom was repainting the house, you couldn't just set up a tv in the basement. i mean, come on! nope. we could only watch tv in the rooms that had a tv outlet. yeah if we wanted to watch tv someplace else, we'd have to go to my aunt sally's. have you ever sat on a plastic covered couch? 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[ male announcer ] switch and add a wireless receiver. get u-verse tv for $19 a month for 2 years with qualifying bundles rethink possible. >> this is mt. tam. let's check in with janu for your sunday forecast. >> janu: we are starting to see some breaks of sunshine. this live look from our roof cam still, some breaks of sunshine and clouds but dense fog over the golden gate. with plenty of sunshine and some pop up sprinkles as we go for midday it is going to be clearing. with sunny skies and a slightly warmer conditions for the rest of the work week. 66 degrees in oakland and san mateo. and upper 60s in livermore. slightly cooler the breezy area for a sunnyvale. and 83 degrees in evergreen. the east bay in the valleys 80s and concord, and '80s in danville, pleasanton. for those along the east bay shore. and downtown san francisco 60s low 60s in ocean beach. taking a look at satellite and radar. this is to the north all of us. also not expecting much more strow we are expecting the wind to stick around. and temperatures are going to rebound with midweek. >> a possible chemical attack in syria is building. joining us now is michael yaki to talk about the conflict in syria. world leaders from president obama to david cameron in inland to even the pope. they have all been talking about this and the big question now what? >> studio guest: i think the problem is that they do not know exactly what to do. this situation, where there have been some instances documented of london donbut limd -- but this has massive casualties. several children impacted with graphic footage. >> it is shocking. >> studio guest: the big issue for the united states is that how'd you respond. and even with chemical weaponry what is the answer? is it going to be aid, factions, or a missile. with the joint chiefs of staff to send a letter saying that we are really do not want to intervene. because we do not know who is going to win plus we do not want to be on the wrong side. what is crazy is the fact that he has used chemical warfare and unless we are able to speak with the opposition groups. and there are many. and it is going to be and mean very little for us to even create more chaos and less control over a country that has so many such close proximity to israel, jordan. >> israel says there has to be some type response but they're not saying exactly what it would recommend. that is the conundrum that the president finds himself. >> studio guest: sometimes i the that what the president is as terms of military intervention is you have to get your act together. we have to make sure that we have to a better command. we could do a coast of a zero- tight intervention and take out aircraft and bombing. and if we wanted to. but what does that get us? he essentially, when you have other countries involved, with saudi arabia, yemen, they have to get together and then we can act. we have to need to get assurance for the right reasons. to get the right result not just for the american people. because we're going to be putting americans lives in harm's way but also for the regions in the area as well. >> on one hand, other has to be a reaction, some type of response. nobody seems to be clear what type of response that should be. and also, it has to be, now! it cannot wait. >> studio guest: the easy way out is to simply flip a switch and to send a send a-missile. but that would be the somewhat minimal reaction that we " do and say that we reacted. however, that does not really get us anywhere. how to get them to stop using chemical warfare in the future. and also when this regimen will fall apart and hopefully it inevitably will. >> the big question is that was the reaction to our response that we will do michael, thank you. and also,still ahead on the kron four morning news. say goodbye to gifts. on facebook that is. we'll tell you why the world's largest social networking site is getting rid of "gifts" coming up. this live look outside at the san mateo bridge not a lot of traffic. overcast. . look at 'em. living on cloud nine with that u-verse wireless receiver. you see in my day, when my mom was repainting the house, you couldn't just set up a tv in the basement. i mean, come on! nope. we could only watch tv in the rooms that had a tv outlet. yeah if we wanted to watch tv someplace else, we'd have to go to my aunt sally's. have you ever sat on a plastic covered couch? 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[ male announcer ] switch and add a wireless receiver. get u-verse tv for $19 a month for 2 years with qualifying bundles rethink possible. >> facebook is shifting to a digital-only marketplace for its gifts program. the company is phasing out physical gifts.and switching to gift cards and digital codes. users used to be able to buy products like mugs, flower arrangements and teddy bears.but the program only made a small profit. the company says it made the decision based on user feedback. the official launch of the new gifts site happens this week. >> the f-d-a is proposing new rules that will change how imported food is inspected. the biggest change will be in who inspects the food. the plan is to hire overseas companies who already have food inspectors. this means that importers would be responsible for verifying food safety. the rules are supposed to reduce the rate of recalls and outbreaks of food-borne illnesses. around 48- million americans get sick each year from food poisoning.about three thousand die from food- borne disease. >> a company is recalling nearly 500 thousand bottles of brake fluid because its color is wrong. a-t-e super blue racing dot 4 brake fluid is the affected product. officials say the blue fluid could be misidentified. and improperly mixed in the braking system. this could lead to brake damage or failure. continental aftermarket makes the brake fluid and will buy back all affected items. >> kickoff for the n-f-l season is still a couple of weeks away. but preparation for the super bowl is well underway. metlife stadium in new jersey will host the game. f-a-a officials are working on restricting airspace over the stadium that day. it is a challenging task. the stadium sits near some of the most congested airspace in the country. no-fly zones have been in effect at super bowls since the september 11 attacks. the big game is set to take place february second. >> , amanda knox. is expected to stay in italy and not attend the 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also too large groves of sequoia trees in danger. the evacuations continue. >> every hour the fire burns closer and closer. every hour, they are evaluating and assessing the situation and every hour the american red cross shelter gets closer. >> we had 162 residents, and as the outburst progressed, we had 184. >> reporter: family knows that when the evacuation go from voluntary, to mandatary, the numbers are going to change. >> just a few minutes to get out of our house. it is going to be a bit of a panic we've only need to get things that cannot be replaced. such as pictures, an important papers. if >> reporter: as soon as the evacuation order came in, he brushed home to his children and pregnant wife. >> it is a lot right now. >> i -- rushed home to my child and prevent life. >> these family's prayers are answered and their home is safe. >> i am so relieved and happy. >> we are hoping to get able to go back. >> and as a reminder, to stkeep it here on kron 4 news go to our new channel. comcast 193 for the latest news, as well as our facebook and twitter >> janu: 60s expected near concord in six is expected in san jose as we go for this afternoon. no residual 70's with mild conditions expected. 60s for the east bay shores. we will take a look a your extended forecast coming up. >> new this morning. police are investigating a homicide in union city. it happened overnight at the intersection of 11th and "d" >> i did not care fo if there were any danger i wanted to get out to the person that was in danger and shot in the street. >> i hope that he was able to survive the night but he did not. >> this is the first homicide in union city, since 2011. gunman were seen fleeing the area but no arrests have been made. this happened on saturday morning, 6:30 a.m. she was jogging when a man was walking in the opposite direction insulted her. the suspect is described as a latin male. he was wearing black pants and a teaneck shirt and a reality that not only is she truck company. police are looking into what led 72-year-old hubert allen jr. to shoot his boss and former co-worker saturday. allen drove to the headquarters of his former bosses' company where he shot and killed the two men.and wounded two others coming up how one child is able to attend his class without setting foot in school. .. we're new to town.ells. welcome to monroe. so you can move more effortlessly... we want to open a new account: checking and savings. well we can help with that. we tend to do a lot of banking online. you play? yeah discover a mobile app that lets you bank more freely... and feel at home more quickly. chase. so you can. one boy can't physically get to and from class. without illness has kept an oklahoma first-grader from setting foot inside a classroom. but he's still able to attend class, and even travel the halls of his school, with the help of some futuristic technology. joleen chaney reports. >> "do you see me conrad?" >> reporter: he does, but not how you'd expect him to. conrad sees his classmates, and they see him -- his face in the monitor of a telepresence system, a robot. he's had to miss a lot of class because of severe allergies and a very rare immune system disorder, so rare it doesn't even have a name. as far as his family knows, little conrad is the only one in the world who has it. and they hope a bone marrow transplant will get him healthy enough to enjoy a normal life. he leaves this weekend for denver, and is taking his new robot with him. >> "i just have to have it because i'm going to denver for something called a bone marrow transplant and i'm going to be leaving for awhile. and that's all i pretty much know." >> reporter: this is his second time to tinker with the robot. >> "you take the mouse. i just put it there and whoa, whoa!" >> reporter: his little fingers maneuvering across the keys and mouse. >> "hey, conrad." >> "hey." >> reporter: directing the device to just about anywhere he wants to go. >> "i really need to get out of here." >> "i see you again." >> reporter: teacher permitting. >> "i don't know if they would let me go into every room, but i could." >> "you silly conrad." >> "so even though conrad will be in denver, he'll still be able to virtually be in the classroom and communicate with the rest of the students." >> "what are you doing conrad?" >> reporter: he can even go on field trips, controlling his telepresence device from hundreds of miles away. he's the first person in oklahoma to have one. >> "it's funny because they might have lots of those in the future." >> reporter: because of conrad's illness his school really had a tough time trying to serve him, until they found this one of a kind robot. >> "it's a true blessing and honestly it was a lot of answered prayer. we just have tremendous hopes, we're very excited about this opportunity." >> "so many people saying bye!" >> "we'll miss you." >> coming up on kron 4 news weekend your full forecast. >> welcome back. >> janu: still dealing with some cloud coverage and as we go for this afternoon some mainly sunny skies. and as we go for midday the chances are going to increase. for tomorrow, some clearing. taking a look at where temperatures are 70's in antioch. 60s in oakland and 60s in san jose. slightly cooler. for the eastern bay inland valleys. and '80s in concord, pleasanton, and in the south-bay a mixture of '70s and '80s. 84 degrees for those in los gatos. oakland getting to about 72 degrees. and a warmer 76 in fremont will finish it off in the north 79 degrees expected in santa rosa taking a look at the satellite and writer of this system to the north of us. >> three are dead after a shooting spree at a florida truck company. police are looking into what led 72-year-old hubert allen jr. to shoot his boss and former co-worker saturday. allen drove to the headquarters of his former bosses' company where he shot and killed the two men.and wounded two others before killing himself. >> iran is weighing in on a possible u-s intervention in syria. one iranian general says trespassing over the red line in syria could have severe consequences for the white house. washington had said saturday that military forces are moving closer to syria. president obama is still considering a military response to assad's alleged use of chemical weapons. >> a cairo court has delayed the hearing against three muslim brotherhood leaders. the three are on trial in connection to killing protestors in june. egyptian officials say the trial will resume in october. meanwhile. former president mubarak did appear before court. mubarak is being retried for charges of killing protestors during the 2011 uprising. >> working women in mumbai are outraged at the gang rape of a 23-year-old photographer this week. police arrested three suspects as of saturday. but some say they've lost their confidence in their city. cnn's mallika kapur reports. >> reporter: considered india's most progressive city, mumbai has a large pool of working women. a group stunned by thursd ay's rape of a young photo journalist in the heart of mumbai. >> i feel extremely angry and extremely unsafe at the same time. >> reporter: tonali mukherjee is a freelance photojournalist. she says she's never hesitated to go on an assignment, day or night. >> as a journalist we have this false sense of security, specially with a camera because you are disconnected from everything around you. >> reporter: but as tonali points out - the latest shocking sexual assault making headlines in india is a reminder - a journalist is as vulnerable as any other woman. many of mumbai's women journalists complain about the lack of security while they are out and about doing their job. >> i changed 3 trains but there was no cop. >> reporter: mumbai has long been considered india's safest city for women. but these journalists say the reality is quite different. they've come here to talk to the governor about their problems and to ask for more security. according to government figures, a rape has been reported every day in mumbai between january and march. these journalists say they want a more visible police presence on local trains and stations the main mode of public transport in mumbai. >> we cant always ask male colleagues to accompany us. because we are professionals. >> reporter: the governor said he would ask the railway minister to increase security and discuss this with the chief minister. tonali says she worries security concerns will mean women may not get a fair chance at work anymore. >> and somewhere it puts me at a disadvantage because i am a woman. so an editor thinking about hiring a freelancer is gonna say, maybe i'll go with a man. that's not fair. >> reporter: working women across the city say they feel the city has let them down. at various press conferences, the police are trying to reassure women that mumbai is and will remain a safe place for them. but to many, it's just rhetoric. >> the confidence we had in our own city is gone now. >> reporter: mallika kapur, cnn, mumbai. >> on to bay area sports. the giants win against the phillies. six to three. the giants put together a four-run first against francisco liriano-- who lasted just four innings. and fell to 14 to six. pablo sandoval had two r-b- i's. and buster posert went three for five with a r-b-i and a run scored. tim lincecum is your winner with eight strikeouts in five and a third innings. meanwhile with the athletics. coco crisp hit a tiebreaking home run leading off the ninth inning and jarrod parker earned his eighth straight win as the a's beat baltimore two to one. after park and chris tillman waged a pitching duel for eight innings, crisp connected on a 3-1 pitch from darren o'day. it was the third home run in three games for crisp, who had four hits on friday night. grant balfour got three straight outs for his 32nd save. the athletics face off against the orioles today at 10:35 our time in baltimore. 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16-year-old girl abducted by a family friend speaks for the first time. and we're getting more details in tonight about what exactly happened during her ordeal. and then, los angeles to san francisco in 30 minutes. what is the hyperloop? this is pretty stupendous, people. let's go "outfront." and good evening, everyone. i'm erin burnett. outfront tonight, mob boss, james "whitey" bulger, guilty. the former mobster and fbi informant from boston convicted today of 31 out of 32 counts, including a role in is -- role in 11 murders. whitey is one of the country's most notorious criminals. he spent 16 years on the run as one of the most wanted by the fbi. deborah feyerick has been covering the trial, she was in the courtroom, and deb, what was the reaction to the guilty verdict and did those looking for, you know, revenge and fairness here get what they wanted? >> reporter: well, depends on who you ask. james "whitey" bulger portrayed absolutely no emotion. he had called this trial a sham, but he stood and he listened to the verdict as the count of guilty was read, 31 out of the 32 times. prosecutors, erin, they looked visibly relieved. it has taken them decades to bring whitey bulger to trial, and they mounted a huge case, calling more than 60 witnesses. but as for the victims' family members, well, all 19 wanted justice, wanted resolution, but only 11 got it. the jury was not able to find enough evidence linking bulger in at least seven of the murders. in the eight murder, they actually could not unanimously agree. that was the murder of bulger's crime partner, of the 26-year-old girlfriend, they could not agree. so there was no finding in that murder. i spoke to the grown daughter of one of the victims. she said, now, as then, she believes that whitey bulger is and will always be the killer. but she says she wishes she had not been dragged through this process. she was clearly in a lot of emotional pain, erin. >> and let me ask you, i know you had a chance to speak exclusively, deb, with one of bulger's keep mob enforcers, this guy, kevin weeks, which must have been just been a rather bizarre, but fascinating experience. what did he tell you? >> reporter: yeah, it really is. and this is a man who was as close to whitey bulger as anyone. whitey bulger considered him like a son. and i asked him, do you hate whitey bulger? and he said, "no, whitey bulger made me who i am." so those experiences added up to something, he's out of a life of crime, but listen to what he told me. as bulger's mob enforcer, kevin weeks said he buried the bodies and moved the cash. weeks was one of the government's star eyewitnesss. -- eyewitnesses. last month he came face to face with his one-time crime partner. >> he wasn't the same guy i knew. i mean, he's a lot older, but he had no life in his eyes. he was subdued. he had changed. he just kind of lost the spark. >> reporter: weeks turned against his former boss after learning bulger, who ran a murderous criminal enterprise for 20 years, had spent much of that time as a government informant. the kind of man bulger always referred to as a rat. during the trial, weeks and bulger cursed each other after a defense question about weeks' role and his regrets. >> basically, when he asked me, he said, you have no regrets in life? nothing bothers you? i say, you know what bothers me, i said, we killed five people. and he said, and that bothers you? and i said, no, what bothered me is we killed people for being rats and i had the two biggest rats right next to me. >> defense lawyers argued that bulger never provided any useful information to the government. and weeks testified he had seen jim bulger murder debora hussey with his own eyes. >> i walked out and there was jimmy strangling her. she had walked in the house with stevie, and jimmy jumped out and started strangling her. and he killed her and then she was brought downstairs and, you know, ultimately buried. >> do you ever think of the look on debbie hussey's face? >> no. >> do you remember the look? >> not really. >> do you remember bulger and how he reacted after? >> he laid down and went to sleep. >> why? >> he always did. he was nice and relaxed. >> reporter: in december, 1994, bulger fled south boston after a corrupt fbi agent tipped him off the feds were closing in. after a worldwide manhunt, bulger was finally arrested in santa monica, california, in 2011. >> whitey bulger stood up and said, he didn't get a fair trial, it was a sham. he had been given immunity by a corrupt prosecutor. what do you think of that? >> i'll equate it to this. he got a fairer trial than the people we killed. >> do you think jim bulger ever lies awake at night thinking about the people he allegedly killed or killed? killed or he killed? >> i think he lies awake at night thinking about the people he should have killed and didn't kill. >> if jim bulger were sitting across from you right now, what would you want to say to him? >> nothing. i'd have to shoot him, because he'd be trying to shoot me. if he was sitting there right now. >> reporter: now, kevin weeks' testimony at the trial was one of two eyewitness testimonies. also, bulger's former hit man testified against him. it was the testimony of those two men that largely made up the murder cases against whitey bulger. erin? >> thanks very much, deb. amazing. just killed people and would always just go to sleep. our second story out front, hillary clinton dipping her toe into politics, again. the former secretary of state just moments ago speaking publicly. this has been very rare since she stepped down from her high-profile role as secretary of state. but now, of course, she's the front-runner for 2016 for the democratic party. here she is speaking to the american bar association of san francisco just moments ago. i want to get to jim acosta. jim, these are some of the first political comments she's made in a long time. and she's there and she's talking, she's appearing in public. what was the big headline? >> reporter: well, the big headline, erin, is that i think she's dipping more than just her toe in the political waters. if you take a look at the speech she gave out in san francisco to the american bar association, this was pretty striking, because prior to today's speech, she had basically been going to various groups and speaking to those specific target audiences. tonight was very different. she said, during her remarks, that she's going to be giving a series of policy speeches over the coming months. today she talked about voting rights. and she went after some of these states that had passed voter i.d. laws in recent months, saying anybody who thinks that race is not a factor in elections is not paying attention. she says she's going to be talking about national security coming up in this next speech coming up in september. but just to give you a sense as to how much of a departure this is for hillary clinton, take a listen to what she just said about an hour ago. >> over the coming months, i will deliver a series of speeches focused on questions like these. today, you saw on voting rights, which threatens to block millions of americans from fully participating in our democracy and further eroding public trust. next month at the national constitution center in philadelphia, i will talk about the balance and transparency necessary in our national security policies, as we move beyond a decade of wars to face new threats. and later in the fall, i'll address the implications of these issues for america's global leadership and our moral standing around the world. >> reporter: and erin, if you heard hillary clinton there say that the speech coming up next month in september is going to be on national security issues, that is going to be september 10th, in philadelphia. she's going to be receiving an award there from none other than jeb bush. so that will certainly get the 2016 talk going. and to think that hillary clinton is going to be talking about this balance between national security and civil liberties sounds a lot like the conversation that a lot of people are having around the country right now. it is going to be very interesting to watch. >> oh, it sure is. and that timing, of course, would certainly underline that she is running. thanks very much to jim acosta. still outfront, waves of sexual harassment claims, but the mayor of san diego refuses to step down. here's the question, how many people knew about his behavior all the way along? and then, the hyperloop. this is the stupendous story of the day. would you get into a metal tube and go 700 miles per hour -- 700 miles an hour and it's not an airplane, but it's coming to in country? plus, should the government plus, should the government be allowed to tell you what to name your child and names that you absolutely cannot name your child? and a sinkhole threatens to swallow a florida neighborhood whole, an entire resort down the drain. ch reports, customizable charts, powerful screening tools, and guaranteed 1-second trades. and at the center of it all is a surprisingly low price -- just $7.95. in fact, fidelity gives you lower trade commissions than schwab, td ameritrade, and etrade. i'm monica santiago of fidelity investments, and low fees and commissions are another reason serious investors are choosing fidelity. now get 200 free trades when you open an account. our third story "outfront," san diego's mayor on deadline to defend his job. mayor bob filner, who has been accused of sexual harassment now by 14 different women, has until midnight tonight to formally respond to the growing calls for him to resign. tonight, we are also learning that long before the scandal broke, filner's behavior towards women was questioned. there may have been people who actually knew. so who, exactly, had suspicions? and why didn't they say anything? our kyung lah, who, of course, has been breaking so much of this story, including his alleged targeting of women he knew to be rape victims, is "outfront" with an investigation. >> reporter: suzanne morris was the host of this debate a year ago, as bob filner ran for san diego mayor and eventually defeated san diego councilman, carl demaio. they were discussing violence and sexual harassment. demymaio rarely looking at filner until -- >> how an individual treats women in their office -- >> look at him. he looks at him again. >> a mayor who is going to insist on zero tolerance when it comes to the issue of sexual harassment. >> see how he looks at him like that? >> that is deliberate. that is very deliberate. >> why do you think he looked at him? >> i felt like he must have known something. i think that has been going on for years. >> reporter: demaio, now running for congress, had no comment, but a demaio staff member tells cnn allegations about filner's harassment of women swirled in political circles during the mayoral race and the campaign tried to warn san diego voters. >> i deal with frustrated travelers every day. >> this airline worker in demaio campaign ad last year described what she called filner anger issues. >> and the hostility towards me, especially when he screamed, "you can't stop me!" >> i think there was a lot of whispering, there was a lot of things under the surface. there was a, "boys will be boys" attitude. >> lori saldana heard the whispers and complained. she went to the head of san diego county's democratic party two years ago, after six women told saldana of filner's harassing behavior. nothing happened. is it fair to say that especially politically, in political circles, that people knew? >> it was considered abusive, it was insulting at times, and i think people need to pay attention to those kinds of reports. and take them seriously, and that, unfortunately, didn't happen two years ago. >> reporter: they're paying attention now, as the city tries to boot its mayor and ask why it had to come to this. >> i think a lot of them knew it, and that really disappointing me, and the whole batch of them. >> it's pretty incredible what you're reporting there. how is it that nobody did anything, even with lori saldana's complaint? >> reporter: well, we called the san diego county democrats, the party, and they say, well, none of these women wanted to step forward. there was no official complaint, no paper trail. so in absence of that, they didn't feel like they could do very much. erin, what they said they did is that they talked to filner and told him, hey, got to take care of this. but beyond that, they really didn't feel like they could do anything. >> interesting point and reason as to why. kyung lah, thank you so much. kyung has been breaking so much on that story. and now our fourth story "outfront," the hyperloop. okay. bear with me, because this is the coolest story of the day, by exponential powers. it's our money and power segment tonight. elon musk is the man who co-founded paypal. he heads tesla motors, and he's unveiled a plan to get you from los angeles to san francisco in 30 minutes. it's a solar-powered elevated transit system that seat passengers inside a steel tube. i don't know what it is, because the speed is 700 miles an hour, which is faster than an airplane, but it's kind of a train. i don't know what it is. richard quest is host of "quest means business." this is the coolest story of the day. okay, what is this thing, how does it work? >> this is the document. he's either a visionary, or he's barking mad, for what he's come up with. but the core of this is a tube, that would be on pillars from los angeles to san francisco, and inside, there would be capsule cars that would be rocketed forward, right, rocketed forward, to 700 miles an hour. and there would be a fan on the front. elon musk basically says that this is the way of the future. it is for perfect travel for those trips, this is what he says, for up to a thousand miles. basically, 900 miles. >> this is low priority relative to the core mission that spacex has, but i think it may -- i think it might help if i created a prototype. and sort of helped get things going in that way. >> get things going. look at the pictures and the diagrams of this. first of all, this is what they say it will look like. but -- >> it's like a helicopter, train combo? >> it's in a tube and you sit in chairs and there's 30 or so of you in the capsule. at the front, you have a compressor fan. i'll show you the diagram for that. in the middle, you have the passengers, and in the back you have the batteries, and you're going at the speed of sound through this tube. and here's something i know you'll want to take home and study closely. >> yeah. >> that is the compressor. >> this is the one that makes my head spin. what is this? >> this is the compressor motor that sits at the front and allows the train to keep moving forward. >> all right. so just to make it cool, you check on the web, 5 1/2 hours to drive this is going to 30 minutes. >> yes. >> that's incredible. if it works. >> he also says it will only cost to build this $6 billion or $7 billion. compare that to the $65 billion for the current high-speed rail plans for california. he believes this is a viable, valuable alternative for mass transit between these two destinations. >> and when you talk about things that can transform life as we know it, if this were to work, this would be one of them. by the way, you say $6 to $7 billion. i want to make it clear to all of you watching, $34 billion was the estimate for california high-speed rail. they're now double that at $70 billion, and there's still no train. >> but the point about this is, could he do it? let's not be down in the manger. let's not be wet weekends about this. has he come up with something -- >> that would work? >> never mind -- is it visionary? in 30 years' time, will you and i be sitting on our rocking chairs, going, well, we talked about it then and he did it. >> i would love it if that were so. we'll pull the segment and we'll look at us when we were you think. richard quest, thank you very much. let us know what you think about that hyperloop and whether you think it will work or not. still "outfront," al qaeda and its new mission. prison breaks. the leader of the arabian peninsula said that members in prison would be freed soon. it's unclear what the plan is, but there have been a lot of prison breaks lately with thousands freed. it's put the obama administration on high alert. those breaks have been linked to america's decision to close embassies around the world. barbara starr is out front. >> reporter: it's the year of the jailbreak for al qaeda, and some couldn't be more pleased. the man who triggered the current terror alert and leader of al qaeda in the arraignan peninsula, aqap, wants to see more. saying in a new message, "imprisonment will not be for long, and shackles will not remain." >> the fact that the leader of al qaeda in yemen is calling for additional prison breaks. i mean, i -- i think it has to be taken seriously. >> reporter: wahisi has plenty of precedent. july 23rd, iraq. al qaeda claimed responsibility for two prison breaks that freed more than 500 including some senior al qaeda operatives. the u.s. believes some are behind dozens of attacks across iraq in recent days. july 26th, benghazi, libya. a prison break frees about 1,200 inmates. and on july 30 go ahe 0th, gunm attacked a jail allowing 200 to escape. some senior militants are believed to be free. wahisi himself broke out of a yemeni prison in 2006. yemen's poorest jails are why the u.s. is keeping 56 yemenis at gitmo even though they are cleared to go home. >> the basic reason is is that there is a concern that if they're sent back to yemen, yemeni authorities can't guarantee that they'll stay in prison. >> reporter: the u.s. embassy in yemen remains closed after the recent terror threat after most others in the region reopened this weekend. the new statement another reason to continue the caution. >> i think there's always a high level of concern about this, and any time there's a high-level statement from an al qaeda leader, clearly there's concern. >> reporter: there's concern al qaeda may want to break with operatives with bomb-making skills raising the potential for new attacks even more. and interpole continues to call for vigilance saying hundreds of terrorists may now have escaped in these jailbreaks. erin? >> barbara, thank you. and still out front, the 16-year-old held captive by a family friend. what she knew during the ordeal, and what she didn't. and then imagine getting fired over a conference call with all your co-workers around the country and the world listening. it happened. at a really well-known company today. and the latest from the florida community where the ground is giving way in one of the biggest sinkholes ever. years ago, my doctor told me to take a centrum silver multivitamin every day. i told him, sure. can't hurt, right? and now today, i see this in the news. once again, centrum silver was chosen by researchers for another landmark study. this time looking at eye health. my doctor! he knows his stuff. 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a federal judge has dismissed the racial discrimination claims in a lawsuit filed against the celebrity chef. deen's former employee claims that she was denied, quote, the right to work free from racial harassment. deen even admitted in a deposition that she used the n-word a very long time ago, in her words. but the judge decided that the discrimination claims didn't add up because the employee was white. maybe it was just bad timing. aol's ceo, tim armstrong, was on a conference call. there were 1,000 employees talking about the future of the company and they were talking specifically about a struggling part of the company, a hyper local news website known as patch. he told the employees, quote, if you think what is going on right now is a joke, you should pick up your stuff and leave patch today. that is when tim, who, by the way, is a really affable guy, noticed an employee taking a picture of him and lost it. abel, put that camera down right now. abel, you're fired. out. eight seconds of awkward silence with those one thousand people followed. we reached o out to aol and the employee, but neither have responded. a new survey out today shows that 80% of new yorkers view anthony weiner negatively. shocking that 20% don't. that doesn't bode well for the mayoral candidate's imploding campaign. judging from a buzz feed q&a that wrapped up moments ago, weiner clearly is not backing away from the race or his sexting proclivities. >> i did these things. no one did this to me, i did this to me. i made these mistakes. >> weiner also admitted he is still seeing a therapist and says he hasn't been in touch with sidneylecteders, the -- sidney leathers, the woman at the latest sexting scandals, in quite a while. >> i didn't exchange anything inappropriate with her for going back a year. there were messages that were completely, you know, how you doing, what do you think of this? you know, i treated her like a friend. that is what i did. but in terms of anything inappropriate, it was a year -- i don't have any records -- >> and a year for anyone else also, is that right? >> yeah. >> he treated her as a friend. i would love to know how he treats a girlfriend or -- i don't know. the poll numbers don't seem to be phasing weiner. he said he predicted this exact rhythm when he got into the race. we want to say in full disclosure, cnn has a partnership with buzzfeed. it has been 737 days since the u.s. lost its top credit rating. what are we doing to get it back? well, stocks were mostly down, but the tech-laden nasdaq managed to eke out a modest gain. and the reason for that was open table, it helped. it's an online restaurant reservation maker and it rallied over a partnership expansion with facebook. so now apparently you can book a table from your cell phone via a restaurant's facebook page. and now our sixth story "outfront." a bittersweet reunion. 16-year-old hannah anderson is back safely in san diego tonight with her father after nearly a week on the run with kidnapper james dimaggio. dimaggio was shot and killed during the rescue attempt. a short time ago, anderson's father spoke publicly about this for the first time. >> it's time for us to grieve and move on to the healing process. i respectably ask you to give me, all of our family, and our friends, the respect and time to allow this to happen. as for my daughter, the healing process will be slow. she has been through a tremendous, horrific ordeal. i am very proud of her and i love her very much. she is surrounded by the love of her family, friends, and community. >> hannah anderson only learned about the loss of her mother and her 8-year-old brother after she was rescued on saturday. "outfront" tonight, paul vercammen in san diego. >> reporter: the river of no return wilderness area, 2.3 million acres of deep gorgeous crags and deep mountainsides on wednesday, four country-smart horseback riders chanced upon 16-year-old missing girl, hannah anderson, and her alleged abductor, alleged killer of her mother and brother, james dimaggio. >> he might have been an outdoorsman in california, but he was not an outdoorsman in idaho. and he didn't fit. >> reporter: little did the fugitive know, near moorhead lake, he'd run into mark john, former army ranger and county sheriff, and three other riders. >> they weren't friendly and they didn't talk. >> reporter: they say the girl lacked scared and later the ex-sheriff saw hannah's picture on television, called state police, the search was on. on friday, authorities discovered dimaggio's car near trailhead. >> the blue nissan versa was discovered covered in brush. the license plates had been removed. >> reporter: detectives say hannah had no idea that her mother and brother were found dead in the ashes of dimaggio's house. the desperate hunt for the girl turned to the air, up to 200 agents with tactical alert skills geared up. they'd all been warned that dimaggio burned down his home, was extremely dangerous, and possibly armed with homemade explosives and more. lawmen spotted dimaggio's camp site from the air. saturday, members of the fbi hostage rescue team got dropped off via helicopter, hiked more than two hours, snuck up. the san diego county sheriff says dimaggio was armed with a shoulder weapon and he fired at least one shot. the fbi agents returned fire, killing the fugitive. >> obviously, we would have liked mr. dimaggio to surrender and face justice in a court of law, but that's not going to be the case. >> reporter: in the untamed west, dimaggio got a dose of frontier justice and hannah anderson got her freedom. >> oh, my god! >> oh, our baby's coming home! >> reporter: her grandmother, euphoric and philosophical. >> the way it ended up, for both hannah and jim, it's fitting. >> reporter: so there thereby no sensational trial here in san diego county. there will not be any testimony, perhaps from hannah anderson. there will not be testimony about whether jim dimaggio had a troubled childhood. this verdict was delivered not by a jury, but by a bullet, erin. >> all right. thank you very much, paul vercammen. and now our seventh story "outfront," a sinkhole swallows a florida resort as the tale of sinkholes in the united states gets more and more frightening. 60 feet of earth opened up under the summer bay resort. that swallowed a three-story building and part of another. this is a resort. people here were on vacation. it happened just a few miles from disney world. martin savage is in orlando tonight, "outfront," and martin, what is the situation at the moment, we hear about these sinkholes around the country and so many in florida. this is just a few miles from disney world, at a resort. is the hole still expanding from what i just described? >> reporter: they believe erin -- good evening, by the way -- that the hole has stabilized, but they have a new measurement on it. it's now 100 feet across, not the original 60 feet, and is said to be at least 15 feet deep. now, the good news out of all of this, despite the dramatic photos is and the terrifying moments for over a hundred guests that were inside of one particular building, nobody was injured, nobody was killed. and that is miraculous when you look at that very remarkable footage of how the building came down. the guests did have at least some of a warning. first, the power went out, the water seemed to be acting a little funny, then they began to hear popping and cracking and then the building began to settle around them. that's when most of those guests knew they had to get out. there's a security guard who's also credited with spreading the alarm. they had about 10 to 15 minutes to get out of that building and everybody did and later large portions o of that building began to collapse. two other buildings on the property have also been evacuated, strictly as a precautionary measure. again, nobody killed, nobody injured, really, really fortunate. erin? >> i mean, miraculous, when you think about it, and the fact that you would hear cracks and actually think to get out. that's incredible. but what about the fact that the resort didn't know? i mean, there's this feeling, when we see these sinkholes, martin, as you know, around the country, that it's just like, oh, no one has any idea. they would have had to put foundations down and build an entire resort here and market it. did they have no ideas about holes? >> reporter: it is possible. i mean, first of all, in order to check for sinkholes, you have to use ground-searching radar, which is really not too cost effective and certainly isn't required or you have to drill a lot of holes every couple of feet. that also isn't cost effective. it's also possible, even after the construction, these buildings were about 15 years old, that the ground could have eaten away after that point. so it's really a combination, really, of the acidic matter, that's the water running underground, and the fact that you have a limestone bedrock here and they just don't mix well. it opens a cavern and you get the hole. >> just incredible that people -- you just don't know. martin savage, thank you. still to come, another politician finds himself the butt of a joke. emphasis purposeful, people. we'll show you the best political gaffes of all time, led by this one today. plus, an american court has forced a couple to change their baby's name. this is not a joke. this happened in the united states of america, right now. good move or judicial overreach? 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this may be hard for some parents to take, but your baby is no messiah. maybe there is, maybe one, i don't know. that was the message of a tennessee judge to parents of a 2-year-old boy. they were in court because they couldn't agree on a last name. when the judge ord-- judge rule they had to change the last name, she said to change the name economy sigh a. let her explain why -- messiah. >> let her explain why. >> the word "messiah" is a title. and it's a title that has only been earned by one person, and that one person is jesus christ. >> the judge went on to say her decision is best for the child. but does her argument add up? stephanie miller, michael medved, and dean object -- dean obeidallah. jesus is fine given its popularity. i am confused although i understand there's a distinction with jesus before and after. did the judge make the right call? >> no, of course the judge made the wrong call. the government has a lot of control over lots of aspects of our lives, but as hollywood demonstrates very regularly, you're allowed to give your child an idiotic name. one of the problems with naming your child messiah is what do you use as a nickname? do you call him mess or messy? that'll be worked out, but it's up to the parents to decide. >> dean, what do you think? because, i'm sorry, i'm still caught up on the inconsistency here of jesus versus messiah. but also, who's a judge to say only one person has earned this. i thought we had a separation between church and state? >> i'm impressed there's a judge in tennessee, first off. that just impresses me right off the back. >> oh, my gosh. >> but secondly, i'm going to be honest, i'm going to defend the judge, not for the rationale. the rationale is ridiculous. there's separation of church and state, you do not say, because there's one messiah. it's in the best interest of the child. that's the standard when you bring an issue before the court, and i used to be a lawyer who decided on children's issues. there are certain names that are not good names. there's a guy who named his child adolf hitler in new jersey. that kid is stuck with that. or osama bin laden or sean hannity. these are horrible names! >> sean hannity, that is not fair. >> all kidding aside, one quick thing, i know stephanie wants to jump in. in tennessee, turned statute of child abuse, it includes not just physical abuse, but imminent mental abuse. if you're going to name your child messiah or a worse name, a more challenging name, the child live withes it, not the parent. they think it's cute and fun. your kid has to go every day with that and get beaten up or ostracized from society. that's wrong. >> stephanie, dean makes a point. but dean, messiah is number four among fastest growing baby names in this country. so there are lots of messiahs running around. so, you know, when a judge -- forget the judge's rationale. even deecan's rationale, does i add up that the name would be some insipient child abuse? >> well, a worm hole has opened in the universe yet again in that i agree with michael. >> i was -- >> the judge -- the judge is clearly overreaching here. you know, sadly there is no law against being an idiotic parent, erin. and you know, i don't know -- did they think that would come some second coming panic in the state? i'm not really sure. but i think that it is overreaching. you know, i think that we're a country that has a ban on certain baby names. and listen, if we're going to start, let's start with caleb. that is so pretentious. >> i'm sure we all have names we want to ban. the kid we all hated growing up. you can't imagine ever naming it that. what about, you know, are there any names that would be appropriate to ban? by the way, talk about this -- dick butkus, i don't believe that's a real thing but they are. northwest was allowed. daisy boo? >> there was a democratic senate nominee in new hampshire named dick sweat. let's not go there. >> listen, third base -- third base coach -- go ahead. >> i mean -- >> third base coach for chicago, dick pole. we have dick trickle. come on. you're right. embarrassing names. >> lots of stuff. >> but think about this, this cute name thing -- >> adolph hitler campbell had a brother named heinrich himmler campbell. and what this did, it led when he had a birthday cake where it said happy birthday adolph hitler, then child protective services came and looked. look, if you really are giving your child names like adolph hitler or maybe osama bin laden, maybe that should get the attention after the birth occurs and the child is named of some authorities to look for cps. but the idea of actually having the government determine what names are acceptable -- you talk about big government, that's the ultimate. totally inappropriate. >> in sweden they ban names. they banned superman, ikea. i guess it was popular. elvis. look at this, you start -- once you start banning, you ban -- >> in iceland, there's only 1,800 names for men and 1,800 names women to pick from. it's literally against the law. it's case by case. if someone goes to child service and says this kid's being abused every day because of the ridiculous name his parents gave them -- you don't petition the court until you're an adult. >> there's one thing that none of you have thought about. >> which is? >> maybe he is the messiah. >> erin, this is america. if anything we have the right to be idiots. >> thanks. >> hope you're happy with yourselves. every night we look outside the top stories for something we call the "outfront outtake." in australia, the country's opposition leader, tony abbott, got unwanted attention for a slip of the tongue. >> no one however smart, however well educated, however experienced is the suppository of all wisdom. >> suppository. he metropolitan -- he meant repe things are placed for safekeeping. he's not the first politician to mangle a sentence. we looked for some of our favorites here at home. >> number-one job facing the middle class, and it happens to be, as barak says, a three-letter word -- jobs. j-o-b-s! jobs. 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former u.k. crime manipulatester tony blair issued a new warning to the west, confront the growing threat of radical islam. he went on meet the press but he probably didn't expect he would be blamed for it. lynn to this question. >> isn't the legacy of your leadership and that of president bush in part responsible for the reality did you? did you, did president bush, did the west fail to deal with the extremism you talk about today appropriately in afghanistan in a sustainable way? >> i think we did but i think we've got to recognize one thing very clearly. this is a long battle. this ideology, it's not going to be defeated by an engagement in afghanistan, in iraq or even in these individual arenas. it's going to be devoted over a long period of time -- defeated over a long period of time. dana, i don't know how tony blair remained so calm and didn't reach over the table and smack him right across the face. i guess david gregory didn't remember the '93 world trade center bombings or even the radical attacks over the years. how can he go there? >> i spent the last few hours trying to think what was in his head. i know him. i know him. he covered all -- i don't know about the 1993, i don't know where he was in 1993, but certainly 9/11 and all of the response after that. i wonder if he was just trying to be provocative, which he was, and of course have always admired tony blair and i think that the tendency of americans to blame themselves is a terrible trend and we thought back against that for a long of tony blair and george e w. bush during those early days of the fight after 9/11, it was all about the long struggle, the ideolo ideologic struggle, that we're not at war with islam. they were moderate in their words, and their actions. that election in afghanistan, they ended up with a pro western president out of that. >> bob, whether you agree with george bush's policy or not he made it a central issue to go after radical islam. you've been very vocal about your thoughts about radical islam on this show. do you think david gregory was being provocative? >> i think to suggest that somehow this was the creation of radical islam is silly. he has no notion of history but having said that, there are those of us who believe unequivocally to this day that the invasion of iraq unleeshed forces into the extremist forces into that movement and gave iran an opportunity to become the major power in that region. before that, hussein had iran tied down. now, iraq is scpoert exporting radicals. i didn't see the need for it. >> go ahead, dana. >> bob, it doesn't lead anywhere, this is what he believes. there is absolutely no proof of that. >> proof of what? >> we sit here and we have to listen to how al qaeda is on the run and zes i natd and now because of a david gregory question on meet the press, you come up with all these fanciful notions that iraq is exporting al qaeda. >> you do not believe that iran rose and got much more powerful after the iraqi war? >> i believe that the middle east is safe today, because if you wanted to have a nuclear arms race between iraq and ran, you would tra that. >> what about al qaeda is on the march because this president has withdrawn and not really addressed the issue of radicalism? >> i don't want to talk about the blown red lines, whether you use drones or sanctions or rhetoric. it's not wonder that al qaeda is em boled by it. let's talk about david gregory just a second. there was talk whether they were going to remove him at nbc. a lot of people say you know why because david gregory is so left ln leaning, he would go back to where tim russert was, you knew he was liberal, but he was fair and balanced, he always asked the right questions and he would go at it from a middle of the road point of view. on the very week that people are blaming him left leanings on the ratings slide, he goes there again. he goes further. asking one question is one thing, the way he framed it. it wasn't a question. it was a ideologic commentary. >> the only thing that works above david gregory's neck is his hair. to what he says, the only thing that is responsible for islamic extremism is islamic extremism and any excuse for that behavior just emboldens and perpetuates its existence. the war on terror is exactly what tony blair said. it require the same commitment that terrorists have on ruining our lives. the condominium must be lifelong -- the commitment must be lifelong. you have to understand that. sometimes i wonder if we do. >> what he said, do you expect we have to go to war to do this? every place we have this? do we have to put people on the ground and go to wars? i don't think the answer is yes. we've done a pretty good job of holding down terrorism. when you say al qaeda? what do you think the definition of al qaeda is today? >> i think it's funded by iran and it's throughout the world and by the way if i don't think they are emboldened, did you hear the latest idea that's come out of the al qaeda leader? >> who are they? >> the al qaeda leader. i can't remember the guys name. >>s he's hiding up in the mountains. >> instead of killing westerners, take americans hostages. >> they use it as a franchise. >> i think it's both. i think it's turned into a desegmented movement but it's also organized in other ways. there's a naivete on the left if you believe that if you are nicer to the radical islamists -- >> that's not what we believe at all. >> it was a bunch of butt kissing and in fact that made it worse. actually, that made it worse. that ignited radical islam. it gave radical islam green light to organize knowing they have a president -- >> bob, don't say it. think of ponies, little ponies. there you go. that was a close one. i saw the swear jar exploding. >> we were going to get to another topic but you and i just basically blue up the rest of the block. literally and figuratively. >> is there not another topic? >> there is. but we don't have time because we were inviting. sh -- fighting. dana is going to tell us about a congressional candidate who is facing attacks from an unexpected group of people. coming up next on "the five." there's an openly gay candidate running for congress in california. not surprisingly, carl demaio has been the target of homophobic attacks. what is surprising is where they are coming from? the left. he may not be typical gop candidate but he doesn't think his sexuality is what sets him apart. >> i think the most unique part of my candidacy is that not that i'm gay but i'm running on a record of getting substantial reform done. >> i heard about the attacks against him from the left and it reminded me in 2002 when congresswoman couldn't connie morello was running. and to me, when i found out that the lesbian by sexual gay trans sexual groups were working to sabotage his campaign, i felt like i had to write something. >> and you write it in this piece, and it's a terrific piece and what you are referencing it how the left took out a group that basically pose as someone who is supporting him to raise money and they were fined for it which is the dirt i didn'test in politics. some on the left believe they have a monday nop pli on women and minorities and gays and this is that classic case. i thought for so long we were told by some on the left that our sex lives were not important. remember with bill clinton, it's a private matter let's not talk about people's sexual preferences. why is this on full display? contraception. our sex lives is front and center. they are going after every aspect of your life. it's a total progressivism. a front of the first amendment. this is what they stand for and they reveal the worst side of themselves. >> he was orphaned when he was 13. his dad left his mom two weeks before she died. he went to georgetown. he passes on a bipartisan basis pension reform and then he decides to dedicate his life for public service and run for office. what i ask is what sort of quality are they fighting for if not the kind of success that he achieved? >> they certainly should be, this is a rogue group of liberal democratsr democrats who have no right to do. how about the right? >> i'm not going to try to turn into this something about the right. >> i'm asking you specifically are there any conservative groups in that district who have attacked him one way or another? >> yes, and i point that out. that it hasn't been universal, however what he does say is that when the photo shopped ad came out and the egg -- ethics community fined them. no one defended him except for the right. and he said that he has found more inclusion, more tolerance and more acceptance from the republicans than the democrats in the district, and greg, president obama is going to go and fund raise for the white male middle aged straight freshman democrat in may. dupg any of the press will ask him -- >> why is he so homophobic? that's what i want to know. that shows the fundamental hypocrisy about politics. why would you play the race, gend gender, and sexuality card so much? the approximate bsh to keep from doing that, you play these cards to constantly. >> who are you? we're talking about a specific group here in san diego. and not all democrats and not -- >> but none of the groups stand up for him. the victory fund, the human rights campaign, they all actively work against him, and eric final words, the republican party has moved however incrementally prabs now in demaio's words, he think he represents the majority of people being open and receptive in the elections? >> it takes time to change. i think the country is starting to realize it's more of a libertarian bent. that's probably the best thing for the republican party. >> he talks about that. >> is getting a little bit administer -- let's focus on the issues that matter. smaller government. let us keep more of our money. not who we go to bed with. i honestly don't really care but i think bob is right in one respect it does come from both sides and in your point, if anyone that should be defending this guy, it's the gay community. they should be out there pushing the lgbt -- >> at least get to neutral. >> but they really should be, you know, so to speak behind this guy, they should be. >> but one political party touts tolerance and screams it from the roof top. >> and says that we're not. >> carl demaio will be on the record tonight with greta van susteren. . giant survey of esmokers said it helped them kick butts. still in new york city, ecigarettes will be banned in bars, restaurants. they are planning on banning sell to kids. >> when you have no argue, what do you have? children. the pouty props employed as protective padding for your knee jerk orthodoxy. if you can't keep your from doing bad stuff, that's not my problem. the fact is the millions of lives saved from eext cigarettes far outway the hypothetical panic. when an industry arrives for the making, the government arrives for the taking. bozos. you know what's best for kids, getting their parents off smoking. if these cigarettes would be around 40 year ago, a few million kids would be enjoying their parents now and even grandparents. there's nothing more important than grandparents. >> if my mike wasn't hooked to this chair, i will give you a standing ovation. >> that's true about my grandparents. >> incredible. this is a lifesaving device. so banning these in barks restaurants and public places, it's steam, it's vapor. ban showers and clouds and pea pots. i have a question, oh, eric, regulations are necessary. what kind do you need? >> i think you hit it on the head. it's parents need to do their job. 433,000 people died the last -- at least somewhat associated to smoking and there's no ill effects of an ecigarette that we know. this is a no-brainer. the feds need to get out of the way. why are they banning this in they should be promoting this? they should be talking to kids in high school saying use this instead of this. this will save your life. and they are -- they are all going to try it. might as well try that instead of that. then they won't like it though, maybe. >> it's all based on feeling and perception. people look at this and it looks like it's smoking, it must be bad. >> it reminds me of banning cigarette candy. remember those things? i don't understand what it is about -- what the evidence that this is somehow causing damage to people? the only thing i can say -- think by reading this is they think it's going to influence young people to smoke cigarettes? who are they kidding? >> remember joe camel. they said that cartoon was going to cause kids to smoke. it was just an ugly dromedary. should health experts be defending ecigarettes or do they have some sort of backing with their patches from pharmaceutical companies? >> i think there's a lot of money on this. especially on the political side. they should be even from a budgetary perspective, less people smoking means lower health care costs, now that we're shifting the health care costs because it's going under government controlled health care. if ecigarettes were around, my father would still be alive. if you have such an issue with ecigarettes and kids and their lungs, you know what, take your science and go to colorado and no other place has promote smoking and lungs than there. >> it's the tobacco companies. >> i was thinking maybe the gum and the patches too. >> so you use those to stop smoking. there's no doubt in my mind there's a huge tobacco lobby that's behind getting the fda to make that look bad and increase the regs. >> they should make the ecigarettes the kale delivery device, because then the government would say that would be good for you. >> these devices are great for putting health stuff in there. >> the health care industry, because it puts them out of business. >> there's no such thing as secondhand smoke with this. it's vapor. >> hollywood's most eligible bachelor is reportly off the market. our tips for george clooney is next. you've tried to forget your hepatitis c. it's slow moving, you tell yourself. i have time. after all there may be no symptoms for years. no wonder you try to push it to the back of your mind and forget it. but here's something you shouldn't forget. hepatitis c is a serious disease. if left untreated, it could lead to liver damage and potentially even liver cancer. if you are one of the millions of people with hepatitis c, you haven't been forgotten. there's never been a better time to rethink your hep c. because people like you may benefit from scientific advances. advances that could help you move on from hep c. now is the time to rethink hep c and talk to your doctor. visit hepchope.com to find out about treatment options. and register for a personalized guide to help you prepare for a conversation with your doctor. i know a lot of women were upset to hear the news this week about george clooney. the long time bachelor reportedly proposed to his 36-year-old girlfriend. i want to given you some advice from one bachelor who has been married before. university of wisconsin came out with a study saying that marriage calls a lot of depression among people, that they have side effects that are not healthy. i think probably plenty of healthy marriages out there. be prepared for the following, where are you going? where have you been? you are going to wear that some oh, really, that game is more important than our going to the tulip festival? okay. anybody else have anything else to say? >> one of things in that study is it said that nagging is a problem in a marnl, but i don't think that george clooney would ever to be naged because they have people to do stuff for them. so you don't have to have george clooney to please hang up the poster in the kitchen that's been there since december. you don't have to ask him to do that. >> eric, do you get naged? >> what's the biggest nag you got? >> topic for a segment for married people ever. no, remember, you have to find someone who makes you laugh and you'll have a great life. it's clear though george clooney is gay. he watches the show. let me explain. for all the ladies out there who think he's amazing, just admitting he's either gay or married, get over it. there's got to be someone -- >> secondly, do you nag your boyfriend? >> i'm not feeling the loss for george clooney. i actually think there's an important lesson. george clooney kept saying i will never do this or do that. isn't being married, as rita rud ner once said the one person you get to annoy for the rest of your life? >> no, that's bob. >> do you ever get naged? >> yes. >> give me an example? >> smoking. >> yeah. clothes. marriage is fraught with friction because you are taking two sides of the human being, male accident female and you are putting them together. that's what happens. that's how it works. there are two different things, but bob giving advice on relationships is like dana giving advice on how to get things from a tal shelf. >> one more thing -- they wanted to make sure i point out that i was kidding about he's either gay or married because he's off the market. so stop dreaming about george clooney. >> o test flush test test okay. time for one more thing. a quick clarification, earlier, we had a graphic that said donald sterling was scheduled to receive a ncaa award. it should have said ncaap award. >> it's an issue of parent alien nation. actor jason patrick has been fighting for his rights to see his young son. today, the first of his kind ruling, the judge said he's allowed to say his name. his ex-was trying to prevent him from saying his son's name. he prevailed in court. this is breaking news. and we're very happy for him. it's a small win. >> it is time for greg's prom tips. so obviously it's coming up on the prom. big season. here are tips on asking people to the prom. don't ask a stranger. if it's somebody you know, you have a better bet of them going with you, but the most important thing no drama. the fact is if he's more into the spectacle, then he's less into you. somebody that comes up and asks that takes more drama than a high drama spectacle. >> i am going to use one of dana's dwrasks. i hate these people. i hate these people. i went to the broadway theater on saturday night. this is not like going to a cheap movie theater. when did they start selling the candies and pretzels and everything, inside the theater like you are in a baseball game. it was annoying to me to listen to this young woman eat three bags of pretzels. think about the actors. they deserve better. l ex-s -- les mis. >> flight attendants are beginning to send out selfies o. i think it's going to do a world of good for the airline industry. it will be perfectly helpful if you are back to the friendly skies. these are some -- yeah, there you go. now, as long as -- they are not doing anything wrong, as long as their uniforms are on. you get the next one. >> i have to do this again. i have to clarify the clarification. i was kidding about the george clooney thing. he's off the market. i hope you remember to set your dvrs so you never miss an ep >> it is tugs april 29th. widespread devastation of mother nature ravaging the south. >> heard a loud... a tree fell on the house. our porch fell in. >> this may just be the beginning. maria molina live on the ground. >> secretary john kerry's slur about israel stirring a lot of outrage. lawmakers demanding he step down. >> when it comes to laws, what's really considered cheating? 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"fox & friends first" starts right now. >> good tude morniesday morning. i am ainsley earhardt. >> i am heather childers. a second wave of killer storms taking aim in the south. >> multiple deaths across alabama mississippi armed tennessee. homes ripped to shreds leaving countless people homeless. the extent of the devastation staggering. maria molina is live in mississippi. what are you seeing there? >> here the damage is extensive. you can see behind me what was a gas station almost unrecognizable has been reduced to just a pile of rubble and also twisted metal. we have seen car windows smashed we have seen power lines down every where and roofs torn off buildings. i wasable to speak to the mayor late last night. take a listen to what he had to say. >> total devastation of the homes and businesses. one business in particular about
that's what i want to know. four, the fight between ben affleck and bill maher on whether to blame islam for the terror wars. i'm with affleck. knocking someone's religion is the way to start a fight, no way to cool one. and why a cameraman who contracted ebola is now back in the u.s. his parents said he was scared, but relieved to be back in the country. meanwhile, the liberian man being treated in dallas took a turn for the worse over the weekend. he's in critical condition. now receiving an experimental drug to fight the disease. and the dallas d.a.'s office is talking about filing criminal charges for lying in order to board the plane and come here. there are 48 people now being monitored in dallas for signs of ebola. including ten people who had direct contact with the liberian visitor. today a nurse in spain was confirmed to have the disease. he reportedly came into contact with a spanish missionary who was being treated at the hospital. in monrovia, they began construction of a field hospital. they will also build 17 emergency treatment units for the public with a hundred beds in each. we're joined by a reporter from "the washington post" and an expert on infectious diseases at the university of texas. late today president obama said officials were working on additional screening of passengers coming to the u.s. >> we'll also be working on protocols to do additional passenger screening both at the source and here in the united states. all of these things make me confident that here in the united states, at least, the chances of an outbreak, of an epidemic here are extraordinarily low. but let's keep in mind that as we speak, there are children on the streets, dying of this disease. thousands of them. so obviously, my first job is to make sure that we're taking care of the american people. but we have a larger role than that. we also have an obligation to make sure that those children and their families are safe as well. >> i'm trying to figure out about how we look at this. i guess if we're complete nationalists, we could talk like donald trump and say, close the door to any travel. very few people think like that is this about nationalism, or being a human being and if we don't deal with it in west africa, we're going to have to deal with it here? >> yes, exactly. this is a global health crisis, and you need to treat this at the source. the outbreak is in africa, not by freaking out in the u.s. this is one case in dallas. over 3,800 deaths have been reported in the three countries hardest hit. and those are underreported. a lot of the basic treatment is within the capability of the world to do. they just need to pour a lot of resources, according to the global health experts. and that hasn't been done. if that is done, and they can get it in time, you can dramatically cut the transmission and spread of this disease. >> one reason for the freaking out, as you call it, is probably the thought that i had, is the president said it was unlikely for it to come here. was that a wise statement for him to make? >> well, i think you have to do the math. back in the end of july, there had been 2,000 cases reports and two cases were then going to other countries. one was to nigeria and one to senegal. that's a ratio of 2,002 going out. 1 case for every thousand cases. it's easy to see how if you have tens of thousands of cases and people are not getting properly treated or isolated and protected, then it is going to spread. i think that when it comes to the united states, the united states and dr. geisberg can probably speak to this, has a much stronger public health system. hospitals give better care. you get i.v. fluids. you're monitored. it's much better health care than folks in west africa, where there's countries have been ravaged by civil war and they don't have basic health care in the hospitals. >> doctor, how are we better off than the countries in west africa? in the reporting today, seemed like there was a lot of chaos over there. these countries are living in many ways on their operational budget. they can't put money into infrastructure. i've seen it all over africa. this is an example where they can build up a tremendous store of potential resources to use in emergency because they're living hand to mouth, paycheck to paycheck over in those countries. >> chris, that's correct. these are great points. you're looking at guinea, sierra leone, liberia, three of the poorest countries on the planet earth. so it's the poor public health infrastructure there that's really contributed to these outbreaks. so they really don't have the resources. they don't have the hospitals. they don't have the staff. and as sad as it is, the humanitarian efforts that have taken place there, i mean, they're running out of simple things like gloves and gowns and masks and things like that. and all of these things contribute to the outbreak and make it worse. i mean, i was very glad that the president announced that the u.s. military was stepping in to provide, you know, mobile hospitals and things like that. i worked for the army for 23 years. they're great at this. they're trained to do this. and really this is the key to stopping this outbreak. stop it over there on the ground, break the chain of transmission. get people back coming to the hospitals. we established that infrastructure, we support it and that's really the best way to control the outbreak. >> liberia's president said back in august that part of the reason for the spread of ebola in her country, had to do with misinformation and culture. she said, quote, we have been unable to control the spread due to continued denials, cultural burying practices, disregard for the advice of health workers and disrespect for the warnings by the government. i'm not knocking anybody's cultures, but apparently the way in which they treat the dead is so personal, so physical, that it's very hard to break people from religious tradition. doctor? >> that's part of the problem. historically, these outbreaks have occurred in central africa. they've been a little bit smaller. smaller villages and cities. and you've had some organizations, the world health organization, the u.s. center for disease control and prevention, humanitarian aid organizations like msf, they bring skilled people, they go in, it's a sad situation for that area. but they isolate the contacts and it burns out. the other thing they've done a tremendous job of in central africa is educating the public. so they do, you know, public education, public awareness, you know, i've been over there several times. they teach people, you know, don't do this. don't touch the body during the burial process. this is a new problem to west africa. i think that's in part contributed to the magnitude of this outbreak. >> today, texas governor rick perry said the government had to do more to control the entry of people with ebola into this country. let's watch governor perry. >> washington needs to take immediate steps to minimize the dangers of ebola and other infectious diseases. to begin with, customs officials and border patrol agents at all points of entry should immediately be directed to conduct enhanced screening procedures. >> let me go for the last word on that. what should we be doing? what should the united states be doing at the airports, in hospitals? what's the lesson of the last couple days? >> i think for hospitals, the lesson has been, even though there has been guidance and protocols and a lot of discussions since this first came on the american radar when the two americans were flown back, i think hospitals are finding that the practical challenges are very differ than just having to know how to do infection control. most places can do the isolation, but then it comes down to, okay, how big of a room do you need? do you need to have room for a bed? do you need to have room for a bed and laboratory equipment? do you need room for a bed, laboratory equipment, and medical care? and what about training? hospitals are trying to get lessons from emory and the university of nebraska, two hospitals that have taken care of ebola patients, to learn from them. and on the screening, i think there is some discussion -- that the president said there was going to be more screening protocols. >> that's right. >> but if you're in liberia, and you have means, and you get sick and you're worried you're not going to get good care in your country, then maybe you would just get on the plane and lie and fly to someplace you could get good care. i guess that goes back to what public health officials are saying. if you can get the good care in the place where the outbreak is, and get it under control and get people to trust you and understand that you're not there spreading the disease, then you go a long way to helping to curb the outbreak. >> we have a long way to go culturally to prove our own goodwill and you're right, what good is it to set up a situation forcing people to lie their way to this country, like with mr. duncan and having to run down all the contacts he may have made. this is big picture. but we can't be nationalistic about it. we have to be, not one world, but certainly it is our world. thank you both for joining us. coming up, a big victory for supporters of same-sex marriage. a huge victory after the supreme court denied appeals from five states seeking gay-marriage bans. that means 3/5 of the country allow same-sex marriage. with the economy gaining teams, a quarter million jobs last month, president obama and the democrats take some credit. no. why don't they get any credit? also we'll look ahead to the mid term elections and some new poll numbers that have democrats feeling it's a bit more upbeat. we'll finish with the a castrator of hogs deciding this election. this is "hardball." a place for politics. here's your chance. tomorrow on "hardball," we'll give you an all-star assessment where things stand now in the battle for u.s. senate. four weeks before the mid term elections, you get the best take on how things will turn out. tonight we have new polling in who's winning now. first to north carolina where the "hardball" team will be this weekend talking to voters. i'll be with them. a new poll of likely voters shows kay hagan, the democrat up four points over republican challenger tom tillis. 44-40. in iowa, the poll has joni ernst up two over bruce braley. 46-44. this is a tough one democrats figure they need to win. next to kansas where orman leads roberts by ten, 48-38. and the one and only question there is which party would he caucus with if the democrats end up with 49 and republicans with 50? then and only then would his vote be decisive in the battle for control. to kentucky, a new poll of likely voter shows alison lundergan grimes up to mitch mcconnell. it's grimes 46, mcconnell, 44. five weeks ago, mcconnell was leading by four. she's picked up six points in a couple of weeks. with sleep number welcome back to "hardball." today by declining to take up the issue of gay marriage, the u.s. supreme court set in motion a tidal wave of action. at this time yesterday gay marriage was legal in 19 states plus the district of columbia. this morning, the supreme court rejected appeal cases from five states, meaning that lower court decisions go into effect immediately. that means the court's action instantly makes gay marriage legal in the following five states. utah, oklahoma, wisconsin, indiana, and virginia. and as a result of today's action, marriage will soon be legal in six other states that are included in the federal appeals court ruling. they are wyoming, colorado, kansas, north carolina, south carolina, and west virginia. and that's a dramatic change. gay marriage will be legal in 30 states plus d.c. thanks to the supreme court's decision today, or refusal to take up the case in virginia, same-sex marriages were performed today merely hours after the decision. let's watch. >> dearly beloved, we have joined together to join this woman and this woman in the holy state of matrimony. >> today, republican governor threw in the towel. he said for us, it's over in wisconsin. congressman, what do you make of turning the sword over in this battle by the governor? >> all year he's been fighting this, taking it to every level to fight the decision that said it was unconstitutional to not allow marriage equality. but now he's listening to the supreme court. while we've had a big victory today for a lot of people across the country, we can't spike the ball yet. there's still a lot to do around employee non-discrimination, making sure the kids don't commit suicide, and a lot of work still to do, but it's a big victory. >> just following up on that logic, for a gay kid, who believes he's guy in his teenage years. the knowledge that marriage is equal. that you can have a same-sex marriage, will that alleviate that pressure of social isolation? >> you know, it's a huge thing. because we all know, people go to weddings. people who are married, you know what families are. when you have that definition allowing all people to be treated equally under the law, that really defines all treatment equal under the law. so it's a big thing for youth facing these troubles, but we have work to do, but it's certainly a huge victory today. >> steve, i worked in democratic politics all those years, and you were too, all those years. are you surprised in the space of a dozen years, from the first time massachusetts did this, and then you had three states vote for it by popular referendum, are you surprised we've come to this 30 states, a dramatic majority, having marriage equality? >> it's a dramatic step, chris. i got to say i'm surprised how quickly it's happened. i think the reason it's happened, people get married and people around them see that their lives are better, and nothing's changed in the world. like all the bad things that the anti-marriage people say is going to happen don't happen. i remember talking to our friend barney frank about six months after massachusetts had marriage and i said, what's going on up there? he said there's nothing new. people are getting married and their kids and co-workers are getting married and everybody likes it. >> i saw barney at an event in philadelphia here and i was the straight guy in the room. a number of other straight people were there, terry gross was there. and barney would talk to the young people there, the young gay couples that were there, and he said, keep hope, things are changing. i thought that was such a powerful message of hope in a way that really, in this case, steve, was appropriate. because it's true. the country has changed its heart. in many cases. >> it's a huge deal. and in all these states where people are going to get married, it sends a signal up and down, all across oklahoma, or utah, or wyoming, that it's okay to be gay. and that it's good to be gay and it's a joyous occasion when two people get married, no matter whether they're lgbt or not. >> did you come out at a certain point in your life? or did you let it come out gradually? did you make a statement? >> i remember. you know, i grew up, when i was in college, you had to make a decision to let other people know you were gay. by making that decision, hopefully you changed some people's minds. in 1982 when i was in college and did it, it was not an easy thing to do, because you got a lot of bad reactions. >> republicans are grappling that young people are moving towards gay marriage acceptance, even support. this pew poll tells the story. with poll numbers like that in mind that house speaker john boehner will visit california this week to raise money for an openly guy republican candidate. here's part of a campaign ad. pay attention to the first two images. let's watch. >> he believes in equality and diversity and is a defender of our personal freedom. the power of people over partisanship is a strength rarely shown in politicians, but it exists in all of us. he believes in us in san diego. who is this man? >> carl demaio, a new generation republican, a reformer, our next congressman. >> congressman, thank you for joining us tonight. haven't had you on before. tell me how you think this is working with your colleagues. when you wander through the democratic cloak room, i'm sure it's more hospitable. but in either cloak room, do you have a sense that your colleagues know this is the future if not the present? >> no question. i think people are realizing that hate doesn't sell anymore. when scott walker and michele bachmann are saying this isn't an issue, i think we've reached that threshold that people understand really equal treatment is the way the society is. a poll i saw, 81% of the people under 30 believe in marriage equality. so they're coming around to accepting where the rest of society's at. and that's a good thing. i think when i'm in congress, when i talk to folks, i've had republicans come to my office when the supreme court decision came out last year, and i had a republican come up to me and say, why don't you and your husband fly out to his district and officiate my ceremony. that's a big thing. and i think society is already there. elected leaders are catching up with where the people are. >> what do you think is the percentage of voters who have family sympathies, family identities, family relationships that are pro-marriage equality? i try to do the math sometimes. parents, cousins, brothers, sisters, it would seem to be a pretty strong group of people that have an immediate family connection with the desirability and the celebration really of gay relationship. >> absolutely. i think that's why we've had such fast success. for a while, people played on the fear. then people came out and said, that's my cousin, that's my son, that's my neighbor, and we're just as boring as everybody else. >> well, we can talk about that, because i do think the imagery of the button-down regular couple, coming down the steps from a church, or a justice of the peace office, is a very comforting picture for a lot of people. i think steve may have said it, i really believe that picture, it's just like us, you know what i mean. well said. thank you and congratulations and congressman pocan. up next, the hot fight between bill maher and ben affleck over islamic fundamentalists. take a look at this, bill clinton, back in his home state of arkansas, campaigning for democratic senator mark pryor. he'll do four events with him today and tomorrow. this is "hardball," the place for politics. woman: what do you mean, homeowners insurance doesn't cover floods? 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[ all speak at once ] >> you don't understand my argument. >> your argument is like blast people. >> no, it's not. it's based on facts. the egyptians are not outliers in the muslim world. 90% of them believe death is the appropriate response to leaving the religion. in 90% of brazilians thought death was the appropriate response to leaving catholicism, you would think it was a bigger deal. welcome back to "hardball." a heated exchange between ben affleck and bill maher has set up a debate. plus, why aren't the president and the democrats singing happy days are here again with the economy. we'll get to it with the round table. writer from "the washington post", and editorial director of the huffington post. what do you make of the debate on television about whether islam is basically a problem, a problem with terrorism and violence? that's the argument they were making. >> it's only like three muslims talking about islam and talking with a familiarity with the religion that frankly they don't have. so, you know, as a debate, per se, i don't put a lot of stock in it. or take it that seriously. >> susan? >> well, in a way, we've been having this debate for 13 years since 9/11, right? with some people blaming the islamic religion for terrorist attacks and others arguing that there are a lot of muslims to whom that totally doesn't apply and is wrong. so this doesn't strike me as a fresh new line of inquiry that we're hearing. >> i think it's important, chris, i think that debate on bill maher was important because bill maher is a popular show in the mainstream of american, sort of intelligent public commentary. i thought it was kind of extraordinary. i think what sam harris said was outrageous. you don't call a religion of 1.6 billion people, the mother load of bad ideas. you just don't. i don't claim to have read the entire koran. i've read a fair amount of it. i have lots of muslim friends and i know something of the religion. and i think it's fair to say that terrorism, that isis, the people that we're responding to, do not represent a great historic religion and if i were a muslim, i would be completely outraged, however worried i was about a bad face of my faith being shown. >> and you know i think there's a big difference in the role that i play and all four of us, than the role of a comedian. he can have fun being a social critic. >> he wasn't be a comedian there. >> you say stuff like this, and that's a loser, because it will just rile people against you and won't change anyone's religious commitment. >> also, it's not true. >> that's correct. it's a ridiculous statement. >> we all read the bible, the old testament especially, there's lots of violence in there. >> a lot of smiting going on in the old testament. >> and death to your enemy and all that. let's talk about the economy. tote in "the washington post" a party controlling the white house could not ask for much more than friday's job report, issued a month before the mid term elections. the unemployment rate fell below 6%. added a quarter million new jobs. more than ten million jobs since w.'s meltdown, but neither the president or the democrats are getting any credit. when you ask americans which party would do a better job handling the economy, republicans have a ten-point edge. why can't the democrats do a little spiking of the ball in the end zone, a little bit of hotdogging here? these numbers are really good. i know not everybody's benefitting, but don't you play your strengths in politics? don't you play the positive? >> you took part of my answer in your question, chris. i think part of the problem, one part of the problem is that people generally don't feel that much better either about their current situation or their future situation because the vast middle class has seen no increase in their real net income over the last ten or 15 years. it's not just obama's fault, but it's partly that. so it's dangerous to crow. the other thing in is, in these mid term elections, virtually every democrat is running as far away from barack obama as fast as they can. they don't want to be identified with him, they often don't want to be identified as democrats. they're running on individual issues, on abortion, on women's rights -- >> it's a vicious cycle, because if you don't talk about the president, if you distance yourself from him, you leave him open to further attacks, which is exactly what the democrats have done for the last six months. >> you know what -- >> in all those years roosevelt was trying to bring the country back from the depression, the economy wasn't a lot better. there was a lot of people unemployed. double-digits to the end of the '30s. all the time he was keeping people with hope by saying, we got something done here, something's working. why do you not want to beat the drum for the success you've had? >> one thing president obama has not been effective at doing is making his own case. one reason we got the good unemployment numbers on friday, we also got the numbers on median household income, which is completely stagnant as it has been for the past five years. and there's the argument, it could be a lot worse. that's one of the arguments president obama would have to make. it was a lot worse in 2008 and 2009. we avoided another great depression. but it's hard to make that a great selling point. >> -- same situation, ten million new jobs, ran for election. touts the creation of the ten million jobs and here's how he did it. >> ten million new jobs, family income up $1,600. president clinton and al gore cut the deficit 60%, requiring time limits, taxes cut for 15 million, balancing the budget. america's moving forward with an economic plan that works. >> i like the music. >> there you go. run that ad again, and look, if you're a threatened democrat incumbent, then don't mention president obama. say, i did it. say, i brought this to you, constituents and unemployment is down to 5.9%. >> i have to say, i think barack obama and the white house have done a lousy job of using the best communications they can. just having the president go to some industrial plant somewhere in the midwest and hold a photo op is not the way you communicate these days. for all of his social media savvy in the campaigns, they've dropped the ball in terms of, from what i've seen in social media, in terms of really pushing this message out to targeted voters. i also see them wasting a lot of time running against the koch brothers. to me, campaigning against the koch brothers is idiotic. they're not on the ballot. >> i was thinking what w. would be doing right now if he had tripled the dow. you think of the most amazing running back and what kind of stuff, the calisthenics that goes on in the end zone, can you imagine what that president would be doing with the tripling of the dow, with ten million new jobs. republicans know how to celebrate themselves. i think democrats need to remember, happy days are here again, high hopes, don't stop thinking about tomorrow, democratic songs. the round table is coming back with a look at the mid terms now just a month away tomorrow. we'll spend the hour tomorrow night trying to figure out which party has the upper hand in the battle for control of the senate. going to be close. before we break, here's some of the sights and sounds of one of the key races, udall versus gardner. they debated today. >> policies of this campaign that are at issue, that are on debate right now, the president just said it yesterday. his policies are on the ballot. that's what we are going to be discussing today, the policies of the president and the fact that mark udall has voted with them 99% of the time. >> congress gardner didn't answer the question. he has the tenth most partisan record in the house of representatives. his record is out of the mainstream and that's the contrast that you have in this race. homeowners insurance doesn't cover floods? 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i want to start with howard on this baby. the united states senate race, people are talking about kansas. i figured the relevance there, if it ends up 49 democrats, 50 republicans, this guy gets to decide if the republicans get 50. that's the only time it matters in kansas, as far as i can figure. >> but i think it's symbolic of the unsettled state of the race. everyone has assumed that the republicans have the upper hand. thecouple bants are way over 50%. >> so you don't think it's a big swing ear way? >> right now. at one point, i did. if reason is, kentucky, which i know best, retch mcconnell is horribly unpop you lar in his home state. this is not an election of hope. it's an election of legalese, which makes it unpredinble in the end. >> the drumming that she's bb taking from, e mean a drubing, personal insults, and here she is back ochb top. >> we say that wu she's two percentage points up. so i would say let's look at the broad trend, which has been a very close race and mitch mcconnell had taken a slight edge and not taken one single poll of people who punch numbers on their phone as the last word. it does show that there's still a close race there. and that is astounding against someone with the plilt kal history of mitch mcconnell and lack of political history of alison. one thing about the kansas race, maybe one thing it tells us is there's an appetite for somebody what's neither a democrat or a republican. emp a state like kansas, there's an appetite for independent candidate. >> how do you decide if et's decisive. >> you insist that's not who he is. i think he'll go with whichever party gives him the bigger deal. you know he's more likely to go with the democrats that pat roberts is. >> if the democrats come down with the senate, think eel hold it for the following reasons. think're able to get this guy to organize with them. but to get there, they have to win in iowa, everyone thinks. he's going to decide the senate control. >> yeah, well, we've had some other strange, recent elections. this one is strange because it is so undecided or unclear this late in the cycle. now, as we go into the heart of election season, you can't be sure of that. you really can't be sure of it at all. >> what's helping is efb, at first, only thought of her as the hog kas traitor. it turns out that lowered expectations big time. but she's actually performed pretty well in the debates. >> yeah, she has. she's surprised people. again, their expectations were very low. that state has been trending, to some extent, culturely. it's been trending somewhat more conservative culturally, i think. >> i think it's going to be an eight-seat pick up for the republicans. that he're not going to win new hampshire. they're not going to win michiganment that he're going to get pretty far along this road. i just think the move of the country is upset. i don't think it's anything particular against. >> i think it's going to be republicans likely take the senate absence and development we don't forsee right now. that sounds like a pretty robust republican victory for me. >> i'm just astounded that this guy, scott brown, can waltz across the border, and actually be in contention against a pretty popular incumbent. this is why i think the sweep is still possible. although i think michigan looks good for gary peters. anyway, thank you. a lot more on this tomorrow night. make sure you tune in tomorrow night to "hardball" when we dedicate the whole hour to an all-star show on the close u.s. senate races around the country. you don't want to misthis one. we're a month out tomorrow. we'll be right back. at shell, we believe the world needs a broader mix of energies, to move, to keep warm, to make clay piggies. that's why we are supplying natural gas, to generate cleaner electricity, that has around 50% fewer co2 emissions than coal. let's broaden the world's energy mix, let's go. let me finnish tonight with this. tomorrow night we're going to look at the battle for the u.s. senate. could it really come down to a candidate in iowa bragging about her ability to castrate hogs? could it? a month from tomorrow packs a lot of political dynamite. should the president lose control of the senate and continue to suffer minority status in the house? he would be at the mercy of the congress. they could spend their days investigating him and trying to destroy obamacare. they can do absolutely nothing and have a jolly time roasting the white house. they could get a kick out oaf him for the next two years. but then, what would become of such a performance? they will look like the bad guys. they will look like a party that seeks power in office merely for the chance that comes to reap destruction. the brand x party. the party you vote for just to say no. and meanwhile, all the time, the next two years, the republican is advertising itself as a no party. they will be evoking a lead every and a party they want to say yes to to hope for deliverance from a tough time. so here's a thought for the republicans. don't bet on the party, determine the flag of no to rally the american people to say yes. a month from now, they may settle sitly for relief from something they don't like. three novembers from now, they're looking, yes, once again, for hope. that's "hardball" for now. thanks fg for being with us. "all in" with chris hayes starts right now. >> tonight on "all in," the journalist who contracted eshs bola is back on american soil tonight. while politicians have found a way to turn ebola into a campaign issue. >> the military is not trained to go catch ebola and die. the president's priorities are all mixed up here. >> then, all in america cold coal country starts tonight. >> it's my trillion millionaire and ten thousand eat up with black lung and die. >> our series begins in kentucky where we investigate the war on the war on coal. >> who started the o
more bombs whistling through the sky as american jets try to save a city under siege. and now the united nations warns of a civilian massacre if isis gains control. also in world, north korea and south korea playing tag with heavy machine guns. and kim jong-un still nowhere to be found. dear leader's disappearing act has the world asking, who's in charge? good afternoon, everyone. welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. we're going to begin with the world lead and a warning that the ebola crisis is at an absolute tipping point. that warning comes from the former uk foreign secretary who's on the ground in the ebola hot zone in west africa seeing with his own eyes the dying and the dead who have not been properly buried. fears growing in europe as well with seven more people hospitalized in spain where nurse's aid, teresa romero, the first person to contract the disease outside of africa, is being hospitalized. ebola's now killed more than 4,000 people, more than 8,000 confirmed cases remain. cnn's issa suarez is live for us in madrid, spain. what do we know about the seven people and their possible contact with teresa romero? >> reporter: good afternoon, jake. seven people admitted last night. what we do know is they had contact with her since she's been ill. two doctors were part of the team who treated the missionaries who died here not long ago. one of the doctors, one that actually saw her at the first hospital that she was admitted to before anyone knew she had ebola. also told she had contacts with two beauticians. one waxed her. one is a hairdresser. these have taken the decision to come in themselves because they feel this is an environment -- a controlled environment. it's their decision. they weren't brought in out of alarm. they came in because they wanted to. it's important to note that so far, none of them are showing any symptoms, jake, not one of those doctors who is actually here, who was admitted yesterday, came out in a very alarming account of what happened at the first hospital. he was one of the first doctors who saw her before they did the first test on her before finding out she had ebola. and he basically said in this account he gave to the press and the health ministry that the suit he had, the sleeves were too short. so his bare skin was in contact with her. he basically said, i told the authorities that she was doing badly with vomiting and no one paid any attention to me. it took them eight hours to move her. jake? >> isa soares, thank you very much. encouraging news for the american photojournalists being treated in nebraska, ashoka mukpo's condition has slightly improved but doctors warn he is not out of the woods. mukpo was infected while working in liberia. he's been given an experimental drug and blood from an ebola patient, dr. kent brantly. one american who survived the virus says she's more than willing to donate her blood if it would help save a life. i'm joined now by her, nancy writebol, and her husband, david. they're live from charlotte, north carolina. nancy and david, first of all, let me say, we're all so glad that you're well. and it's just one of the rare good-news stories in this whole ebola crisis. you, nancy, were working with ebola patients in liberia as a nurse's assistant when you got infected. you say you were wearing protective gear while interacting with patients and cleaning medical supplies. you say you're not 100% sure how you got ebola. what is your best guess? >> well, i wish i could tell you the answer to that, jake. i don't really know. it's very possible that i even came in contact with a family member outside of the ebola unit. it's possible i came in contact with just one of our other lightbu lightbulbia liberians who might have had ebola. >> in light of your circumstance, your case, do you worry about medical workers who help ebola patients, not just in africa, but all over the world? >> i think it's really important to remember that when people are suited up -- and we used to say that probably the safest place to be in a country where ebola is in a crisis, the safest place to be was at the ebola isolation center because you were suited up and you know that you had a level of precaution taken and you knew that everybody else around you was taking that same precaution. so it's more when you're out in the communities. >> david, describe what it was like for you in those days, those horrific days immediately following nancy's diagnosis, particularly, sir, since you also weren't sure if you had contracted the disease at that point. >> well, yeah, being isolated from taking care of my wife was the hard thing. and also having to tell her that she was fighting for her life with a deadly disease and then trying to keep my mind clear and communicate with our sons and others back home. i didn't really worry that i would be coming down with it. i took my temperature three and four times a day. and monitored that very closely and reported it. so that in case i did develop a fever, then we would be able to take appropriate steps in that. but just to watch the love of my life struggle with that is a very, very difficult thing. >> we're so glad it ended happily. nancy, you were asked to give blood to help the texas ebola patient, thomas eric duncan, who died earlier this week. you were not a match. we learned today that duncan had a fever of 103 degrees when he was sent home from that texas hospital after his initial visit. what physical state were you in when your fever spiked? can you imagine being turned away from health care workers at that point? >> well, actually, it's really interesting because i, too, experienced fever right away. and i called our doctor and said, i think i have malaria. malaria spikes with a fever. you feel achy. you have a headache. and so she said, nancy, come back up to the hospital. there's nobody here in the doctor's office. and i'll check you. and i went back up and they did the malaria test. it was positive. and i went home. and so went home with malaria medication and for four days, i stayed at home with malaria medication and took that. but the fever never went away. and so it's really easy to wonder what it is that you're dealing with. whether it's malaria or typhoid, it can be all sorts of things. >> that's really interesting. i don't think i realized that you also were initially sent home with a different diagnosis, just the same way thomas eric duncan was. it makes me concerned about whether medical workers or at least hopefully it's changed in the last couple of weeks, are on their toes looking out for ebola. david, last quick question. we've read a lot of stories about african immigrants being stigmatized, ostracized because of what's happening in west africa. has your family experienced any of that in light of your wife's diagnosis? >> yeah, it's kind of interesting, even after nancy got out of the hospital, we experienced people who were a little bit reluctant to get close to us and they were happy to see that we were well but they didn't want us to shake hands with them or to embrace them. so, yeah, we've been seeing that happen from time to time. >> nancy and david writebol, thank you so much for talking to us and we're so happy for you, once again. best of luck to you. >> yes, thank you. >> thank you. in just hours, several airports here in the united states will begin testing travelers for ebola. how worried are the airlines about this killer disease? one passenger found out when he joked about having the ebola virus. that's next. ♪ want to change the world? create things that help people. design safer cars. faster computers. smarter grids and smarter phones. think up new ways to produce energy. ♪ be an engineer. solve problems the world needs solved. what are you waiting for? changing the world is part of the job description. 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a us airways flight to the dominican republic. four emergency workers in blue protective suits board the plane responding to a disruptive passenger. witnesses say the man was coughing on the flight and reportedly said, i have ebola, you're all screwed. the man appears to say, it was just a joke. but he was escorted off the flight, infuriated passengers stuck on the tarmac for more than two hours. >> i believe that a court in today's environment isn't going to find it to be a particularly funny comment, no more so than the person on board the aircraft who says, i have a bomb, only kidding. >> reporter: it's one of many in-flight scares since thomas eric duncan landed in the united states and was diagnosed with ebola. in the past week, cdc quarantine officers surrounded a sick passenger at newark airport. >> it was quite scary. >> reporter: and a woman on an american eagle flight in midland, texas, was checked out after vomiting. none tested positive for the virus. today in dallas where duncan died from ebola, a congressional panel examined the nation's response. >> but it would seem to me that much of what we are worried about right now could have been eliminated because the protocols were in place. >> reporter: cnn's learned duncan's temperature was 103 degrees when the hospital released him. temperature screening for passengers arriving in the u.s. begins saturday at new york's jfk airport and expands to chicago, atlanta, washington dulles and newark next week. >> we are already at the point where we believe that all stops need to be pulled out in preventing the growth of the disease in africa. >> reporter: we do know that the flight crew, they did reach out to the authorities. that's why you saw that hazmat crew make their way on board. however, a passenger telling cnn -- a passenger who was on board, saying that while this man was coughing and when he said that he had ebola an hour before landing, this passenger tells us that the flight crew did not separate this man from everyone else, did not give out masks to either the man or any of the surrounding passengers. so a bit disturbed about that. the airline, though, telling cnn that they did follow all cdc guidelines. jake? >> rene marsh, thank you so much. coming up, the streets of one syrian city overrun by isis terrorists. brand-new video from the terrorists themselves showing off their weapons and tactics. how are they slipping by these coalition air strikes? and once again, kim jong-un, m.i.a. at a high-profile event. one south korean official says he believes the leader is holed up near a hospital. 24/7, but there are no branches? 24/7 it's just i'm a little reluctant to try new things. what's wrong with trying new things? feel that in your muscles? yeah... i do... try a new way to bank, where no branches equals great rates. dad,thank you mom for said this oftprotecting my future.you. thank you for being my hero and my dad. military families are uniquely thankful for many things, the 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it's very visible is not strategically important. anbar you could say is the opposite. it's pretty much invisible to observers but it is very important to the security of baghdad. and i'm told that it's very vulnerable right now. they say that isis is continuing to make advances there, despite a tremendous number of iraqi forces fighting them and that those iraqi forces now, i'm told, are, quote, backed up against a wall. they are in danger of being cut off. and it's interesting as well that u.s. officials will say they don't have great visibility there. one reason being, they don't have u.s. military advisers at the front lines. a lot of them are relying on better intelligence than they've had before over flight. but a lot of this, they have to rely on accounts from iraqi forces on the ground and those aren't always as comprehensive as they'd like to be. >> jim sciutto, thank you so much. i'm joined now by retired general wesley clark. his new book is "don't wait for the next war" and it has just been released. general clark, thank you so much for joining us. i know you're in close contact with the pentagon. let's start with this new information about anbar possibly be vulnerable to fall to isis. how important is this part of iraq and what in practical terms would that mean to the overall coalition efforts to halt isis? >> well, it is important. it's not going to be decisive. baghdad's very important. baghdad is defended by a very strong shia militia plus the remnants of the iraqi army which is shia dominated. it will fight. we still have tribes in anbar that are on the fence and undecided. they're sunni tribes. they're notfight fights against isis. some aren't fighting at all. i think one has realigned itself with the government at this point against isis. so the fight is still on. we can get aircraft overhead but we don't have close air support. we have battlefield air interdiction and the iraqi forces have to fight. and the fact that they might be cut off, this has happened again and again and again in the last weeks in anbar province. and there is a problem in terms of the leadership in the iraqi army in terms of organizing strike groups and punching through and relieving these besieged forces that are cut off. they've failed to do that on a couple of previous occasions. so this is a matter of significant concern. >> general clark, your book is about the fact that the united states should have more of a long-term strategy and not just go from war to war. and i imagine that -- you wrote this before the recent crisis with isis. but it's proving your point. what would you advise the president to do about isis? >> well, my point in the book is you have to have a long-term strategy for the country. you have to build up the economy. you have to be able to handle multiple crises and have the resources to do it and work against some big problems like cybersecurity, et cetera. in this case, i think what you have to do is the coalition strategy is the right strategy. it's hard to get it moving in time. but you've got to have soldiers on the ground and then you've got to have someone who can govern the space after you kick isis out. so we've got to work with the turks. we've got to work with the kurds and the iraqi military. maybe we have to put some special forces guys up closer. but we sure don't want any american combat troops on the ground there. isis motivation is partly religious. and we would just be a recruiting magnet for more terrorists to come in and fight against american troops. and we proved previously we cannot govern in the region. so we really don't have any alternatives. this issue of putting american soldiers in there on the ground, it's a rush driven by politics. but it's not good strategy. >> in syria, as i'm sure you heard, a united nations envoy says thousands might be just massacred if this border town of kobani is allowed to fall. is that something that the united states can allow to happen? is there no choice since the u.s. has no combat troops on the ground and the u.s. government doesn't think it has any reliable allies in that area? >> well, i've heard both sides on kobani. i've heard most of the civilians are out and what's left are mostly fighters in there. but be that as it may, kobani is miles from the ocean. it's in a foreign country. there's not easy access to it except through turkey. you can't get forces there by just parachuting them in from fort bragg and expect to make a significant difference. over time, they've got to have mobility, logistics, fire support. so this would be reopening a chapter that was closed. this is like iraq war redux. you can't do it with a brigade. i think, yes, we want to do something. we want to do everything we can to prevent that crisis that's emerging in kobani. we want to encourage the turks to do something. i'd like to see us put air cover over that part of syria so that turks would have the rationale covered so that they could intervene successfully. i'd like the free syrian army to go in and say, we'll govern if you'll just give us a chance and protect us from the barrel bombs and the air strikes that assad's forces keep raining down. we're going to have to come to terms with putting some kind of political structure in place in syria or the alternative will be if we're successful against isis, we're going to turn the country back over to bashar al assad. if that's an acceptable outcome, fine, but we've been saying it's not an acceptable outcome. and i don't think it will be. so we've got to pull the pieces of this together fairly rapidly. but let's not panic yet. there's a lot going on behind the scenes that we don't see. >> general wesley clark, thank you so much. best of luck with your book. >> thank you. coming up, he has an air of mystery even when we do see him in public. but after a month of hiding, the rumors are rampant about kim jong-un's disappearance? plus, it costs the same as some houses but it steers 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>> well, there's clearly something wrong, jake, with him, whether it's physically or whether it's related to some sort of power issue inside of the country. but for him to miss these three events in succession, especially when the western media has paid such attention to this -- the leadership there pay a lot of attention to what the western media says about north korea. so i really expected that if he was okay, he would have showed up at this october 10 meeting. >> do you have any information or even a best guess as to what you think might be going on? >> well, i think there's clearly something related to the health because state propaganda has said he's not feeling well. but whether it's that in combination with some other issue, whether he's been confined for some reason, whether there's some sort of major disagreement between the party and the military, we just don't know at this point. but with each day that he does not show up, i think the speculation is going to grow more and more that it's not simply related to a bad foot or a broken ankle. >> and, of course, as bizarre as he and his government are, this is a very serious issue, possible power vacuum with a nuclear power, not to mention the way the people of north korea are oppressed. and then there's relations with south korea. shots were fired today over the maritime border between north and south korea. does this, do you think, have anything to do with this perceived instability? >> well, it very well could. whenever you see sort of erratic jerking behavior from a country like north korea, that's so opaque, it's not a good sign. normally you'd like to see more consistent signals. but the fact that you have this senior envoy that goes over there and then two separate occasion which shots are fired doesn't leave one to feel very comfortable with the fact that it's business as usual inside of pyongyang. >> this of course is a country where the north korean people are told over and over by state-run media that their dear leader is divine, is close to invincible. how long do you think the north korean leadership can delay before acknowledging something is going on? >> well, i don't think they can delay much longer. like i said, on the one hand, they do pay a great deal of attention to what's said on cnn and other western media about the western leadership, the fact that there's so much speculation about whether something else is going on there puts pressure on them to come forward. north korean society is sealed off but at the same time there's a lot more information that gets in there now. so these sorts of news reports if they start getting in there will raise questions inside of north korea. so i think there's a lot more pressure now on them to explain what's going on. and if they don't, the speculation will just increase. in north korea, with the leadership, half the job is just showing up. you have to be present. you have to be doing these on-the-spot inspections and playing with children at amusement parks. it's all part of the myth-making for the north korean leadership. so for him not to be there raises questions at the core about what's going on with the leadership and its stability. >> victor, thank you so much. appreciate it. >> my pleasure. a programming note now, in the immortal words of whitesnake, i don't know where i'm going but i sure know where i've been. but do we really know where we've been? 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(laugh) nice. doing the big things that move an economy. see you tomorrow, mac. see you tomorrow, sam. just another day at norfolk southern. welcome back to "the lead." our politics lead now. it was already one of the most closely watched congressional races of the midterm elections involving a man considered a new hope for the republican party. but now it's getting ugly with claims that the openly gay gop candidate harassed a staffer. we want to warn you this next story has graphic content and is likely not suitable for children. cnn investigative reporter has down exclusively with the accuser. >> reporter: carl demaio is a rising republican star, backed by heavyweight congressional leaders like mitch mcconnell and john boehner, even endorsed by michael bloomberg. >> carl demaio, a new generation republican -- >> reporter: after losses in 2012, top republicans concluded in a review they must recruit more minority candidates. it's a problem demaio helped solve. just look at how a local newspaper describes him in its endorsement. "a gay man who will chip away at the party's image as intolerant and inflexible." national media's repeatedly declared demaio a candidate to watch. demaio first came onto the national scene when he lost to bop filner in the race for san diego mayor. but filner was forced to step down after 18 women claimed sexual harassment. demaio tried to make filner's behavior a campaign issue. >> zero tolerance when it comes to the issue of sexual harassment. >> reporter: but now, demaio's being tested by allegations about his own sexual misbehavior and accusations of harassment. it's an issue that escalated this week when he was asked about it at a campaign news conference. >> absolutely untrue. >> reporter: the allegations come from a former campaign staffer who sat down on camera with cnn. todd says he joined demaio's campaign last year evening tore work for a candidate who shared his values and who like himself is an openly gay republican. but he says he was fired after complaining about demaio's aggressive sexual behavior. >> he asked me to come over to his office which is in the back. and when i came over to his office, his door was open and he was masturbating. >> reporter: what did you see when you walked in? >> i saw his hand -- his penis in his hand. he had a smile on his face. and as soon as i came over, he was looking at me. >> reporter: so there was no mistaking what was happening? >> there was no mistaking whatsoever. >> reporter: todd, who became the campaign's policy director, says demaio would repeatedly find him alone and make inappropriate advances, massaging and kissing his neck and groping him. he says it started one evening after drinks with the staff at a local bar. todd says demaio gave him a ride back to his car. >> we were making small talk on the way back. and when he pulled up to my car, he reached over into my lap and grabbed my crotch. and i flipped out and i pushed his hand away. >> reporter: how did it make you feel? >> i just was shocked because i'd never had anyone do something like that to me, especially in a position of authority and trust. and at the time, i just figured, maybe he was drunk and blew it off. but he progressively and progressively, inappropriate touching incidents continues from there. >> reporter: it was several more months, according to todd, before he mentioned the behavior to the campaign manager. >> the campaign manager who laughed it off, that's just the way carl is, and that if i really felt that uncomfortable, i shouldn't have let him know that i'm a gay man. >> reporter: so he was essentially saying to you, it was your fault? >> exactly. he was implying it's my fault, that it's incumbent on me to stop carl demaio from these behaviors. i was really offended. >> reporter: a few weeks after the alleged masturbation incident -- >> i told him, you need to stop or draw out of the race. the next day, the campaign manager called me into his office and said that carl lost his trust in me and that he had terminated me. he offered me a position in the county republican party and also told me to sign a nondisclosure agreement in exchange for $50,000. >> reporter: was that hush money? >> you know, i'll let it speak for itself. >> reporter: how did you look at it? >> i took it as an attempt to bribe me to keep my silence. >> reporter: todd says he left the campaign without taking any money or signing any papers. he recorded an interview with a local conservative radio station outlining his allegations. that interview never aired. but cnn obtained a copy of that recording. after hearing it, we took todd's allegations directly to demaio, catching up with him after a campaign news conference. he says that you were inappropriate in the office, that you would touch him, kiss him, grab his butt -- >> all i can say is the police department has -- >> reporter: let me finish the litany. he also says that you went out for drinks with the staff, you drove him home -- >> all not true. none of it's true. >> reporter: demaio denied todd's claims saying they are the cover story of a plagiarist and suspected criminal. >> this is an individual that was let go by our campaign manager for plagiarism, a well-documented plagiarism incident of taking a report from the "national journal" and passing it off as his own work. he was terminated. he admitted that he plagiarized. he apologized for plagiarizing. and when we told him he was no longer welcome in the staff and in the campaign office even as a volunteer, he left. days later, he broke in. >> reporter: demaio claims the san diego police department is investigating todd for breaking into demaio's campaign headquarters, smashing computers and cutting phone lines just days before the primary. >> it's unfortunate. he's clearly troubled. he got caught for the damage that he did to the campaign. and now he's manufacturing in essence a cover story to explain away his actions. it's unfortunate. it's untrue. and my hope is that the police department will hold him accountable for his actions against our campaign. >> reporter: and you can provide us with the evidence -- >> absolutely, absolutely. >> reporter: that shows both the break-in -- >> absolutely, absolutely. >> reporter: and both the evidence that would refute his claims here that you were somehow inappropriate? >> absolutely. come back to the office, we'll walk you through every single e-mail, text message. i think you will be satisfied. >> reporter: we went to demaio's campaign headquarters and were briefly shown some documents and other materials. they would us let us copy them or describe them to you. and they did not appear on their own appear to refute todd's claims. police say they investigated the break-in and sent their findings to the district attorney for review. and todd confirms he was interviewed by police. four months after the campaign office break-in, police still haven't charged anyone with a crime. and they refuse to discuss the case on camera or name any potential suspects. did you break into carl demaio's office? >> no, i did not. >> reporter: todd also denies that he was the one who plagiarized in the "national journal." after interviewing todd on camera, cnn repeatedly tried to get detailed answers from the demaio campaign. first the campaign spokesman demanded to talk to my bosses and then had a top gop consultant take over that call accusing cnn of going on a partisan witch hunt. when we followed up with a detailed list of questions, including whether the campaign manager knew about todd's complaints, the campaign hired two high-powered washington attorneys who asked for even more time and more information about what cnn had. cnn followed up with a second detailed letter laying out the information they requested. the next day, cnn finally got a response from the lawyers, contact the campaign with your questions. back to square one. their statement was almost exactly what they said when we first asked about it. this is not the first time demaio has been accused of sexually inappropriate behavior. last year, a fellow city councilman said he caught demaio masturbating in a city hall restroom, twice. it's a claim demaio denied. >> this lie crossed the line. it's so gross, it's so untrue, it's so humiliating that it demands a response. >> reporter: now todd has taken an independent lie detector test to support his allegations. >> it corroborated my account of being sexually haer lly harasse demaio. >> reporter: todd's attorney gave us a report of the polygraph results. and the report says no deception indicated. jake, house speaker john boehner is holding a private fund-raiser for demaio this week. >> this is the same congressional seat held by democrat bob filner who was later chased out of office for sexual harassment? 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>> barbara, at this point, how much are these strikes meant to take out isis? how much of this campaign is being directed at khorasan oral ne or al nusra front? >> the problem is finding them and targeting so you can hit them. isis, you're talking about thousands of fighters spread out town by town across a good chunk of syria and iraq. they are collecting intelligence, fly overhead, they look for them, target them when they can. everyone will tell you, targeting isis could go on for months if not years. these other groups, jake, al nusra, other groups in iraq tied to al qaeda. they are saying, look, our top priority is isis and the khorasan group but the other groups are mixed in at various locations. if they happen to get killed in a strike, so be it. the pentagon insists it's not targeting them outright, at least not now. jake? >> barbara starr at the pentagon, thank you so much. while the u.s. air campaign continues to target all manner of terrorist outposts, the goal of the past day strikes was to take out this french bomber. intelligence officials say drugeon was a key bomb maker with an evolving arsenal. he was reportedly working on a palm-size explosive that could blow a hole in a 777. pamela brown has more. what can you tell us about this bomb maker david drugeon. >> sources say that he was one of the most active bomb makers within the khorasan group. that makes him one of the most dangerous terrorists in the world. initially they were going to develop metallic devices that could be put on a plane that would be assembled and used to blow up the airplane. sources say he was working on a variety of bombs that could be easily disguised in every day common objects, such as a cell phone, toothpaste tube and objects like that. he could be using every day chemicals, a small well-placed bomb like what drugeon was to be creating, it could puncture the skin of the airplane and cause the plane to go down. that's what he was focused on. >> and through most accounts, drugeon had a relatively normal upbringing, a middle-class kid in france. how did he end up this plotter of evil bomb plots? >> it's really interesting when you look back at his childhood. his dad was a bus driver, his mom was a secretary. she was catholic. that's how he was raised. and then apparently when he was 13, his parents got divorced. and like we see in so many of these cases, that's when he began to become radicalized. 14 he converted and moved to pakistan and then made his way to syria in the past couple of years and then became, like we said, one of the most wanted terrorists in the world, jake. >> pamela braown, thank you so much. >> thank you. for more on this, i want to go to robert mcfadden. he's senior vice president at the zuppan group. what are you hearing from military officials about these devices? how close was this bomb maker to getting someone on an airplane, either wears these clothes drenched in explosive or with one of these devices? >> well, from what's been consistently reported for some time in the late spring, early summer, it appears that the al qaeda element and in this case, in syria, it was close. when it comes to priorities for the u.s. going back to before 9/11, al qaeda, its leadership cycles and then those with the highest skills, such as master bomb maker. you know he had to be on the target list for a number of months. >> but did they think this was only a matter of months before he actually succeeded in getting one of these explosives, one of these devices on a plane? >> you know what, we're not really hearing where the cell was exactly in the operational cycle. but jake, it doesn't really matter in the sense that it's very, very important to disrupt forward motion. so whether they were in terms of months or even longer, it doesn't matter so much in terms of going after them as a target. back to your original question, it appears that they had the capability far along the path. >> drugeon, of course, wasn't the only bomb maker among terrorist groups. ibrahim al asuri is still out there and killing one bomb maker will not eliminate this particular threat. right? >> absolutely. al qaeda core has had a train the trainer program, where you have a master bomb maker like al asiri that trains prototypes and the master bomb maker was a man that's been killed in 2006. but none ttheless, the program continues because they aggressively train others. >> this is potentially a deadly game of call and response where the u.s. reacts to these attempts. richard reid is why we have to take our shoes off at the airport. and then the tsa put in body scanners after the attempted underwear bomber. when this bomb maker came on the radar, some international travelers had to turn on their phones at security to make sure they were actual phones. how do you think the tsa is going to react to this or should react to this? is there anything more preventive that should be done? >> well, the measures, more than likely, would continue. as you rightly point out, there are others out there. for example, there's a norwegian citizen who is also known to be in that same category to have been trained by al qaeda's best bomb making skills and technicians. so it becomes a case of this cat and mouse game, intelligence operation, law enforcement cooperations and sharing information and vital bits of pieces of information to put that mosaic together as to what their intentions, targets, and capabilities are. so that will continue. >> airports are the last line of defense for plots like this. how confident are you that airports in istanbul and doha and hamburg are ready? >> that's a really good point because, as we know, those who travel internationally and have worked in the business, there are degrees of skills and sophistication. however, what has changed in a really big way in the 9/11 era is the cooperation between the u.s. and the uk, for example, where there are u.s. flag and co-chair carriers. for me professionally, i have a high degree of confidence that airport's last line of defense is inadequate. however, the intelligence part of it, getting those pieces is absolutely indispensable. >> u.s. officials have been concerned about this explosive-soaked clothing since 2013, maybe even before then. what's the next device or means that we have not yet heard of that terror analysts are worried about? >> it's as broad as your imagination. i know during my time of interviews from the past, described in great detail how important it is when talking about al qaeda core to come up with different devices and different ways to sew fear. and that's why aviation is part of the fear fact are to, continues to be one of the primary targets. as far as devices, again, it's just as broad and as wide as the imagination. >> robert mcfadden, thank you. we appreciate it. >> my pleasure. coming up on "the lead," president obama's relationship with the new senate majority mitch mcconnell and the new republican majority, well, it's already off to a rocky start. where they agree to disagree about everything. and the money lead. maybe the secret to success in today's music industry is being taylor swift. how her latest album is reinventing the pop world. stay with us. so i can reach ally bank 24/7, but there are no branches? 24/7 it's just i'm a little reluctant to try new things. what's wrong with trying new things? 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how do you expect him to trust you? >> listen, my job is to listen to the american people. the american people have made it clear, they are not for obamacare. ask all of the democrats that lost the election on tuesday night. >> reporter: but the president is infuriated by the plan to issue executive order allowing some illegal immigrants to stay legally when he helped democrats on the ballot who lost anyway. >> i feel obliged to do everything i can lawfully with my executive order to make sure that we don't keep on making the system worse. >> reporter: boehner personally wants immigration reform. rank and file republicans don't. that, plus what republicans view as the president's defiance at his own post-election news conference a day earlier fueled boehner's combative tone. >> if he acts unilaterally on his own outside of his authority, he will poison the well and there will be no chance of immigration reform. it's as simple as that. >> boehner added that he doesn't see his job as just to get along with the president, that it's to listen to the members. when we're talking about poison wells and waving red flags in front of bulls, it doesn't sound like the washington that everybody is talking about that needs to work and that's what they say the message from voters was on election night. >> that's interesting, because there are both democrats and some republicans on capitol hill who thought that speaker boehner expanding his majority would give him more wriggle room to do the things he wants to do, that president obama wants to do, immigration reform. it doesn't sound like he thinks that. >> it doesn't. i think there are two reasons. one is on the issue of immigration. he really generally does want to do this. you know that he wants to do something that's important to him. >> he said he's going to do it. >> exactly. there's that. but also as a leader of the party, he knows how important it is to reach out to latinos and so forth and knows his caucus. he's been down this road. he understands that it doesn't take a lot for them to get their backs up when it comes to the president. executive order on immigration, forget about it. that's why he was talking about that. also, i do think that talking to a republican source, he will have more wcriggle room. but on something like immigration, it's a great story. >> dana bash, thank you so much. coming up on "the lead," they are the most unlikely pen pals on the planet. president obama writing to iran's supreme leader to talk about taking on a common enemy. and in national news, ferguson, missouri, bracing for that grand jury decision in the michael brown shooting and for more violence. no matter which way it goes. will cops change tactics this time around? 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we might never know. now cnn can confirm that was first reported from "the wall street journal" that president obama secretly wrote to ayatollah urging the leader for cooperation in the u.s.-led campaign against isis. for more details, let's go to elise labott. what can you tell us about the content of this letter? >> well, jake, it's fascinating that the president reached out to the supreme leader and said, listen, there's a lot of shared interests here between the u.s. and iran. obviously iran is not a friend of isis and doesn't want them taking over territory in iraq and syria where iran has great interest in both countries and said, listen, shared interests but the nuclear deal, as you know, the deadline is approaching, november 24th, a major impediment to further cooperation. i have to say, this is not the first time that the u.s. has reached out to iran asking for their cooperation with isis. in fact, the supreme leader made comments last month that both the u.s. ambassador to iraq, john kerry, have all reached out to iran's foreign minister and ambassadors and so far iran is being very coy about what they are willing to do. >> elise, what's the potential downside of reaching out to him? obviously this is somebody who is perceived to be an enemy of the west. >> well, a couple of things. even if there was a deal on november 24th, u.s. officials caution that there's a lot of other problems that they have with iranian behavior, state-sponsored terrorism around the world, if there was a deal that's not to say that the flood gates would open for cooperation with isis or other matters. and so they still have to resolve some of that. and the other drawback is that iran says no. listen, we understand that you're desperate right now, you need our help, but we're not going to give it. we're going to go off on our own and that's the biggest fear that iran will continue to play its own game in iraq and not coordinate with what they are trying to do and the u.s. feels there's no reason why they can't cooperate. >> elise labott, thank you. coming up on "the money lead," taylor swift shakes off spotify. how she has single handedly written off music obituaries this week. ♪ we are never getting back together ♪ i'd just gotten married. i was right out of school. my family's all military. you don't know what to expect. then suddenly you're there... in another world. i did my job. you do your best. i remember the faces... how everything mattered... so much more. my buddies... my country... everything... and everyone i loved... back home. ♪ [ male announcer ] for all who've served and all who serve, we can never thank them enough. ♪ not to be focusing, again, on my moderate my goal was to finally get in shape. to severe chronic plaque psoriasis. so i finally made a decision to talk to my dermatologist about humira. humira works inside my body to target and help block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to my symptoms. in clinical trials, most adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis saw 75% skin clearance on humira. and the majority of people were clear or almost clear in just 4 months. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you've had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection. set a new goal today. ask your dermatologist about humira. because with humira clearer skin is possible. heyou can get greatds honey! discounts on 1-800-flowers.com...oh... roadside assistance from allstate, and avis, budget and budget truck. all in one place... aarpdiscounts.com. popcorn? 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"music is art and art is important and rare," swift recently wrote in an op-ed. "important rare things are valuable. valuable things should be paid for." so as you hum this million dollar diddy the rest of the day, swift's plan is working. ♪ that's what people say ♪ that's what people say >> after news broke, swift put out a throwback picture of herself from 2002. that was the last year that an album sold as many albums as her current one did in a single week. the music world has changed quite a bit in 12 years, 2002, swift was only 12 years old. joining me now is christopher john farley, the editor of the entertainment blog. christopher, good to see you again. the eminem album came out before the ipod and instagram. how is swift able to do it? >> well, her album is kind of a throwback because of its sound invoking pop hits of yesteryear and the sales scoring the kind of platinum numbers that we haven't seen in about a decade. and the reason is, you know, they say that sex sells. in taylor swift's case, ex sells. she's broken up with nashville and country music and turned that into a it had. part of her charm, part of the secret of her success is she turns her albums into events. she gives you reasons why you have to go out and you must buy this new album. in the past, she's done it by saying, this is an album i'm doing by myself. i'm writing all of the songs. she had great duets and now with this album it's her first pop album and that gave people a reason to go out there and buy it and experience her music as if for the first time. >> now, we've seen other artists try to figure out how to negotiate this new, difficult world. jay-z and youtube have teamed up with corporations for album promotions. and while those stunts helped, they didn't see swift's level of success. why do you think her approach has been so much more successful? >> unwith, she really takes a hands-on approach of her marketing. she's very visible in it. i remember when i interviewed her for her last album, i was surprised -- maybe not surprised b but interested to see that she puts as much interest and effort into the marketing of her music as she does into the writing of it. for this new album, she formed really smart partnerships with target and sold extra tracks at target, a smart promotion with diet coke which helped sell her albums through the commercials. she was on yahoo! streaming an early event to tell people that this album was coming but they helped people draw to her album and, plus, her incredible presence on twitter and instagram. you saw her rapping along to a kendrick lamar track. all of this makes people feel that they have a piece of her, they know her intimately and makes her more prone to want to go out there and buy one of her releases. >> you said you met her. quickly if you could, christopher, you met her, you've spent time with her. how much of this is her steering the ship and how much is it her surrounding herself with brilliant people? not to take away from people who surround themselves with smart people. is it really her the ceo of this smart brand? >> sometimes when you talk with the artists, they don't know what is happening or which single will be released next. she was up on all of the details. she knows what is going on because she's directing the ship. she's the one in control but she does have a very nimble record company. big machine records as an independent national-based label and because i think she has a nimble record company, it allows her to move with social media, to navigate partnerships with different brands and to get her work out there. i'm sure a lot of artists are saying, why can't i get a million hits like she pulled off three times with debuts and part of the reason why is they may be attached to major labels that can't quite move as swiftly as her label. no pun intended. no need for tear gas when water bottles are flying. protesters are being looking for a little slack. people with type 2 diabetes come from all walks of life. if you have high blood sugar, ask your doctor about farxiga. it's a different kind of medicine that works by removing some sugar from your body. along with diet and exercise, farxiga helps lower blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes. with one pill a day, farxiga helps lower your a1c. and, although it's not a weight-loss or blood-pressure drug, farxiga may help you lose weight and may even lower blood pressure when used with certain diabetes medicines. do not take if allergic to farxiga or its ingredients. symptoms of a serious allergic reaction include rash, swelling or difficulty breathing or swallowing. if you have any of these symptoms, stop taking farxiga and seek medical help right away. do not take farxiga if you have severe kidney problems, are on dialysis, or have bladder cancer. tell your doctor right away if you have blood or red color in your urine or pain while you urinate. farxiga can cause serious side effects, including dehydration, genital yeast infections in women and men, low blood sugar,kidney problems, and increased bad cholesterol. common side effects include urinary tract infections, changes in urination, and runny nose. ♪do the walk of life ♪yeah, you do the walk of life need to lower your blood sugar? 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>> so first, i haven't really been involved in any organizing of protests but i've been supportive of the young people out here and the message they are trying to get across. from what i understand, a request that has been submitted to the police, the unified command has been received and is being taken into consideration. many of them are very moderate requests and done in a spirit to keep the peace. >> but you have not heard back. if these protest groups get a heads up, they go along with the 48 hours' heads up request, what will be done to try to prevent any violence? >> yeah, i think that's really good for everyone in the community. there's a lot of anxiety right now about what may or may not happen in the week or days to come. i think it would be -- it would serve us all well to have a bit of notice so that we can have community partners engaged, schools can be notified. superintendents have requested pretty much the same thing of the county prosecutor to give them a heads up. so as we all sit here on pins and needles waiting for this shoe to drop, i think it's good for law enforcement to prosecute as well as citizens to be able to communicate to keep our community safe. >> so protests are asking police to tolerate -- maybe there's a better word for it -- things such as water bottles getting thrown at them. i mean, officers, don't they have to right to protect and defend themselves if someone starts throwing things at them? >> absolutely. i think officers definitely have a right to protect themselves. i think what protests are asking for is for police not to overreact in the same way that we saw back in august where in a crowd of several hundred people, one individual may throw a bottle and police respond with rubber bullets and tear gas into entire crowds that included women and children. it's important for them not to overreact and to keep the peace. keep in mind, there may be a few individuals out there who are not going to be peaceful and we need to work together to deal with them and to keep peace ultimately in our whole community. >> alderman french, just to be candid, it's unlikely that officer wilson is going to be indicted and i say that based not only on the leaks that have come out of the process but also the fact that it's very difficult to indict a police officer in a he said/he said type of event. what are you and other community organizers going to try to do in the next days and weeks to try to make sure there's no more unnecessary violence, no more of what we saw on the streets in ferguson in august? >> well, first, i don't boy that premise that there will definitely not be an indictment. i'm holding out hope because ultimately -- not because i'm prejudging the guilt of mr. wilson but i know that the community right now needs an opportunity to have all of the evidence presented in a fair way with both sides to have an opportunity to lay out their cases and that can only be done in a trial. i think that's what is going to be required to have long-term peace and to really do the healing we need to see. as for the violence, we want to stop violence on both sides. the folks out here are upset about the violence perpetrated against young african-americans and right fully everyone in the community does not like to see this over -- this anger-fueled violence that we saw a few weeks ago. so we need to all work together, both community and police, to make sure that both in the short term and long term we are making our community more peaceful for everybody here. >> we are all hoping for peace. alderman french, thank you very much. sure they are hounded by personal scandals that have buried their political careers in the past but this is 2014. we can't let the other guy win. are we so divided that morality doesn't matter anymore? 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what is going on? >> as long as you're wearing the right colored jersey, it doesn't matter if you'll be wearing a jumpsuit in a couple of months. >> we really appreciate this big win. it's nice to have a great margin of victory. >> reporter: congressman scott is the pro-life republican and doctor who slept with multiple patients, got one pregnant and demanded she and expecting wife got pregnant. but hey, he apologized. ♪ after all, who doesn't like a comeback? >> but it ain't about how hard you hit. it's about -- >> how hard you can get hit. and keep moving forward. >> reporter: new york congressman michael grime faced a 20-count indictment and was caught on tape threatening a reporter who asked about it. in washington, d.c., democrat william kennedy smith won his neighborhood commission seat. smith had been tried and acquitted of rape in a televised trial during the '90s. louisiana former governor who served nearly nine years for extortion campaigned on the slogan vote for the crook. it's important. now he's in the read heading into december's runoff. california congressional candidate carl demaio was charged with sexual misconduct before being cleared. >> i think all of us could use a break and just look at what the outcome is. >> so i do have to agree with him. we could all use a break from the shennanigans here but not everybody gets a pass. look at the case of the so-called kissing congressman, vance mccallister making out with his scheduler but then had his wife appear by his side who said she was blessed to have a husband who owns up to his mistakes. jake, he came in fourth. i have a question for you. do you think if any of these candidates were women, that they would have been forgiven? >> i don't know but i need a shower after that. i'm turning you over to wolf blitzer. wolf? happening now, bomb maker killed, apparently taken out in a u.s. air strike in syria. does the terror group from his threat remain imminent? i'll speak with mike rogers. bin laden bombshell. a former u.s. navy s.e.a.l. says he fired the shot that killed the world's most wanted terrorist. why is his claim sparking a huge controversy right now? kidnapping
there. >> >> no, christi. it is important to stress that baghdad doesn't appear to be under threat at the moment. keeping in mind saz sprawling city of 9 million. and the majority certainly would not welcome isis. where they are making progress is of course in anbar province, iraq's largest province. provincial officials tell me more than 80% is under isis control and they continue to expand. we understand now the town of hadifa is now completely surrounded by isis. some good news, apparently what we hear from also provincial sources, a police official, that this afternoon there was a strike on a large isis convoy by coalition aircraft describing many military vehicles including two apcs being struck in that hit. but by and large the worries are the iraqi military simply isn't capable of keeping isis back. we heard this provincial official appealing to government in baghdad to get the americans to deploy ground troops but the iraqi government has rejected that and certainly it is a political hot potato for the obama administration. but fact of the matter is the iraqi army doesn't appear to be up to the job. they are plagued with corruption. a lot of soldiers who simply pay their commanding officers to allow them not to go to the front lines, to go back home while everybody else is up at the front lines. and in fact one militia leader, pro government militia leader told me as far as they are are concerned the iraqi army in anbar is just play acting. >> thank you. >> aaron, defense secretary chug hagel. he know he is talking about the situation in anbar. what are we hearing from him. >> acknowledging the situation sz a tough. listen to those comments. >> anbar province is in trouble. we know that. the united states and coalition partners are helping and assisting the iraqi security forces t peshmerga and the kurds. as i have said, the president has said, all the senior officials have said, it is a difficult effort. it is going to take time. it won't be easy. >> now, as u.s. officials have talked about this over the past weeks and months, it seems that they were taking incremental steps beginning with some reconnaissance missions, then taking on a campaign of air strikes, then training syrian rebels as well as iraqi troops so they could send in ground troops. but it doesn't seem as though us officials expected this kind of intense fight this early. >> want to get to lieutenant colonel reese. colonel we understand it is more difficult to reclaim territory that is taken than it is to keep someone from taking the territory in the first place. should the u.s. send in troops to protect anbar? >> i'll tell you. i've been coming in and out of iraq now since 2003 as a soldier and when i got out in '07 running companies and doing stability operations if for iraqis. and the short answer is if we don't want the lines on the map to change here pretty drastically we are going to have to put ground troops on? >> we heard from the pentagon spokesman, admiral john kirby we need to begin steeling ourselves for reality that kobani will call and other areas will fall. is this one that the u.s. should accept will fall as well? >> i think what you are seeing is yes. kobani probably has a good chance of falling. i said yesterday i think the turks have a moral obligation to get in there and fight but they are not going to do that until they have an idea what the coalition is going to do with assad. and assad is the center of gravity in this whole piece. but again if we don't get in there and stop isis and delay what they are needing to do the lines arent eon the map will wi change drastically. >> if the anbar falls into the control of isis, and many on the ground believe 80% is under their control. does that name a different strategy going forward. >> no different strategy yet but what i would point is that we've heard other the past month that twice the chairman of the chiefs of staff has said we how would recommend ground troops. but wave again and again they keep reiterating they are not going to send in american ground troops. however this is becoming a hot debate. we have heard from some republicans even who say that is not realistic. at some point they are going to have to consider it. but here is the political reality. the midterm elections are just three weeks away. and while we have seen american support in polls for big air strikes in iraq and syria, there is not yet the support for ground troops. but that could be a debate that heats up after the midterm elections in congress. christi and victor. >> to the white house. lieutenant kernel, thank you as well. >> aren't we want to take you live as we are listening to the port authority of the new york and new jersey. jfk airport has begun that you are ebola screenings today. let's listen. >> or through one of the affected countries our officers, customs and border protections will provide the cdc -- will provide a cdc fact sheet outlining the signs and symptoms of ebola. and the passengers is then directed to a private area where the individual complete it is a cdc questionnaire and contact information. customs and border protection has authorized and coordinated medical staff that will take the traveler's temperature and assess if it is within a normal range. right now united states coast guard corpsman will be providing that but eventually we are contracting very quickly with professional medical staff to do that. well if the traveler has a fever or other symptoms or has been exposed to ebola, customs and border protection will refer that traveler to the centers for disease control for a public health assessment and then from there the cdc determine ws whetr the traveler can continue on or taken to a hospital . cdc continually evaluates and update ours guidance to the front line personnel regarding ebola. background information on the outbreak, impacted regions, origin, pathology, mode of transmission, symptoms, all of these operational procedures and precautions for processing passengers showing signs of illness. a cdc quarantine officer is locate at the headquarters. they facility the requests for information between our organizations. additional the centers for disease control and prevention can provide a "do not board" notification regarding individuals who are considered to be effective with a highly contagious disease and present a threat to public health. once passengers arrive in the united states they are subject to additional measures. as part of every --. conduct observation of travelers that includes monitoring them for signs of illness and notification to cdc or other local public health entities. our officers are trained and have been for many years in illness recognition by the cdc and they look for those signs and if the traveler is identified with a sign of communicable disease of public health significance, that traveler is isolated from the traveling public, referred to the cdc regional quarantine officering or as i said other local public health authorities. the cdc maintains jurisdiction. personnel may be called upon to help with enforcement for the cdc's determinations and we stand ready to help. cdc has distributed health advisories to travelers arriving in the united states from those ebola-effected countries. the advisories provide the traveler with information on ebola, the health signs to look for. and information for their doctor should -- >> all right. we are listening to authorities there at jfk international airport. as they are talking about the protocols they have implemented just today, these new screen togs t ings to try to mitigate ebola symptoms from getting pat intin gates of the airport. they will then pass people onto the cdc and other measures. we're going find out if these measures are really helping. >> we'll have allison cossack standing by. and cnn safety analyst david suessy. is this hype are or will it really help? stay with us. 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>> it depends really on what condition kim jong-un is in right now. if he's debilitated and can't really run the country, then there will be people scrambling around to make decisions to put policy in to place. but i think sending the high ranking general and two ore top leaders to south korea was a until that in fact kim jong-un is in charge and we can go forward with the policy decisions. >> how credible do you think the claim rls the possibility that kim's younger sister is in kroll or at least speaking for him? >> well this is a family system a family dynasty and the only way to get anything done is through the ruling family and the top leader. the closer you are to kim jong-un the more access to power of you. and i think it is credible she is the one relaying decisions to him and from him and possibly also really running the show while he is recuperating from what ails him. >> i wonder are those inside the dprk aware of how much this is causing a stink in the rest of the world not seeing kim jong-un? >> i don't know. ordinary people don't get to see him anyway. he's in the media or on television and hear about him all the type. it's hard to say how much your average north korean on the street really understands the significance of kim jong-un being absent. but i think that there is concern within the elite that he is not being seen and that major decisions can't be made without his presence. and i would think that reason the ranks of the leadership there is growing concern that he's got to come out and show his face before long. >> it is absolutely bizarre. and profession charles armstrong. i thank you for helping us understand a little more about the family and the government there. >> you're welcome. right now on the streets of downtown st. louis, protesters are getting together to demand an end to police violence. >> what sparked this weekend of resistance as it is being called? and how law enforcement is responding. 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>> i will tell you, i have been overwhelmed by the positive feedback i have received from my constituents. even last year when i came out on the senate world and told the world, i was black, i was gay, and proud. i received a lot of responses from people just all over the world. and this has been the same thing. i've told woody that it felt like it was april 22, 2013 all over again. so it's felt that way. and anyone i have heard from inside my district, they have all been very very positive. again, i think times are changing. we are lucky. we are blessed to be a part of something this historic and something in our state, where people are very accepting. >> well senator atkinson, woody howard, congratulation and thinking for sharing the moment and this time with us. >> thank you. >> thank you for having us on we appreciate it. >> thank you gentlemen. >> good to see them. >> yeah. so getting fit, it is not easy. understatement. but especially if you are in a wheelchair. because luckily this week's cnn hero is a body builder. he has a heart as big as his biceps. and he's helping out. >> ah, plus it is not every day you get number two versus number three in the college football. could the bulldogs take a bite out of the tigers? 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which is the biggest in iraq, from isis? now i spoke to the head of intelligence in anbar and he told us as many as 10,000 fighters from syria and iraq have been dispatched to anbar. it appears the focus of their efforts is not baghdad itself. we've been to the defensive perimeter in baghdad. but it is a series of towns and cities along the euphrates river. had ar ha hadifa we've been told is completely surrounded, cutoff from supplies. the garrison of the army has been made an urgent appeal to baghdad to send equipment, reinforcements, splicupplies. but as we've seen in the past, the shortcomings, whether incompetent or corruption, they have repeatedly failed to come to the rescue of these besieged garrison, which eventually get overrun. isis captures all of their equipment and ammunition. so not a bright picture here in baghdad. >> and it looks as if isis is turning its attention away from fighting the syrian president and looking to these provinces. what about the new government in baghdad? a new prime minister, a new president, how vulnerable are they now that isis has made this advance so close to them? >> well it is important to keep in mind that baghdad is a majority shiite city. a sprawling city of more than 9 million people which would be probably far more than isis could handle, until now. whether it's in syria or iraq they have basically focused efforts and have been able to take control of places where there is a sympathetic sunni majority, which has been alienated from the government in baghdad. so for isis to take over baghdad would be a tall order. the problem isn't taking over. the problem is urban terrorism. there is almost every day one or more car bomb, suicide bombing in baghdad and the iraqi security officials believe isis is behind it. even though the shiite majority city, there are areas where there is a sunni majority. and there are sympathizers to isis. so it's problem of the forces on the outside of isis pressing in but also sleeper cell, so to speak, inside baghdad. >> ben, thank you so much. next we go to nick peyton walsh on the border with turkey. >> reporter: certainly doesn't seem to be the case. in the last few minutes we've seen tracer rounds fired towards the border where dusk is falling fast. the outstanding two question being how many civilians are still trapped inside kobani. behind me a town that isis and kurd issue militants have been fighting over for well over weeks. and how close are isis to their main goal of capturing the key crossing point between syria and turkey. it is clearly the goal to try and circle those kurd issue militants inside the down. we saw some kurdish fighters far to the east significanting it is probably is the case and -- it seems some kurdish civilians maybe fighters have been coming out in the past few hours. we spoke to turkish military putting them on a truck and driving them away. it's clear isis is successful in using artillery to advance. it's been a bitter day in terms of explosions in that city. as i say ground it seems changing fast, reasonably quickly. sometimes it does move back again into kurdish control. very complicated days ahead though. the key question is the case as the u.n. say that there are 10,000 civilians still inside the down. we can't see them from the vantage point we're at. and as this comes to potentially a head in the days ahead, the fate of these people is unclear. paramount in the international community's mind and the pressure on turkey to permit some of them out in the humanitarian corridor. >> and turkey has not wanted to put ground forces inside syria. if isis controls that critical crossing point, where turkey change its strategy? will they fight to keep them out of their country? how is that a game changer? >> reporter: well turkey doesn't want to insert ground forces a in the particular stage. there might be discussions. and perhaps a buffer zone, making a certain territory safe for refugees and as it stands now, off to my left there are about a dozen turkish military vehicles on a hill watching this unfold. they are simply not involved. we saw a shell land close to one just a few hours. they didn't seem to react. they are simply changing shift around here and i think many are wondering what will they do for those civilians trapped inside. >> we now turn to the white house and erin mcpike. serious concern for anbar province in iraq. what is he saying. >> reporter: hewe've heard from hagen and others in the admission and all are saying as the very dire situation. now, they are saying they expect this and it is true that we heard from the administration over the past month or so that this would be a very long fight and be very tough. but it doesn't seem as though they expected to be so difficult and so intense so soon. it seemed they were doing this in an incremental way with reconnaissance and then air strikes and training troops as well as the moderate syrian rebels and they thought they had more time. they were buying time with this kind of campaign. but what we are hearing from officials is they are acknowledging as the very tough situation on the ground. >> now with anbar suggesting -- sorry. now that anbar is asking for ground troops, the u.s. says they don't want that. when does that begin to change? when do they begin to think that baghdad might be at sufficient risk that the game has to alter? >> deb, this has been a very controversial issue over the past month. we have seen in polls that a majority of americans do support air strikes in both iraq and syria in big numbers. the terrain has shifted very rapidly. but there is not yet support for ground troops. and we've heard from president obama, secretary of state john kerry as well as hagel and they have said again and again no ground troops. we also heard from high profile and visible republican speakers. and they have suggested it is not realistic that kmeamericans cannot commit ground troops. the political reality is midterm elections are just three weeks away and this is unlikely a fight they want to have. after the elections are over and congress comes back in session i suspect we'll see a much more heated debate whether or not the u.s. has to send in ground troops. >> erin mcpike at the white house. thank you. and the streets are filling up in st. louis right now. stephanie elam is live. >> reporter: we are out here and you can see people are starting to gather here. a lot of people hugging it out. a lot of people talking, coming together. very diverse group of people. we'll tell you more about what's going on in st. louis as this weekend of resistance continues. right now, passenger screenings for ebola are beginning at jfk airport in new york. the fist of five airports that will get enhanced screenings around the country. public health officials trying to prevent ebola from entering the united states. allison is at jfk and who are exactly are they looking for? somebody like duncan would not have even been caught. so who are they looking for? >> they are looking for anybody whose on a flight or conducting flight that came from one of the three countries, considered the hot zones of ebola. incident guinea or sierra leone or liberia. and to screen before they get into the general population. what is essentially going to happen is they are going to see officials know ahead of time these flights are coming in. the passengers will be led to a designated area where their temperatures will be taken. also they will be asked several questions including what their travel was like. have had v they had any contact with anyone with bole. if there are no red flags they will be allowed to leave. they are going to be asked however to leave contact information and going to be asked to go ahead and monitor their fevers for the next 21 days and keep a log of those. if any red flags are spotted those folks will move to a quarantined area. and be further evaluatings. even with these, the cdc admits this is not magic. >> the screening procedure would not necessarily have caught the patient in dallas as indicated and no part of entry or exit will supplant the for local and public health departments, clinics, hospitals to be prepared to detect a case might it occur. >> this is not the only airport that is going to have these screenings. they include dulles, o'hare and newark liberty international. >> all right. allison kosik. thank you. and the question everyone is wondering is will these screenings actually work? we're bringing in analyst and former inspector general for the department of transportation. and these new screen us would not have detect ed the previous illness. he didn't have symptoms. >> we're dining wide search for a small number of people. we're talking about approximately 150 travelers a day. so the u.s. nod not been wanting to effectively ban travel. so they are doing the screening. and if you are not showing a temperature or other symptoms they will be let two. it does have the potential to catch some people and that part is very good. we must do something. we simply can't leave the public health to the discretion of people taking temperatures in africa. we have to do something here but i do think it would have been more effective to stop the travel of these 150 people per day. >> at la guardia they said look, there are inadequate precautions. how do we know what to do? do you think there should be no emphasis on how you decontaminate a plane? there in the bathroom or public areas where a lot of people touch things? >> the cdc issued guidelines about three weeks ago as how to clean a plane, which is interesting because they don't have any experience cleaning planes. and they said for example bleaching. well you can't bleach carpets or seats. and the whoeg whole thing is you get people off the plane. the cleaners oedon't have very long to clean the plane and try to get the plane out there in sometimes as little as a half hour. so you don't really have time. by the time the last person is off the plane long before the screening by the cdc is done those cleaners have to be on the plane. and we really need to take them into consideration. a plane is like a small flying city. it is not just the pilot the flight attendant asks the passengers. it is the cleaners and caterers and people who empty the bathrooms and supply the water. there is a city around each plane. >> and you have to wonder what happens if somebody does test positive for a fever and that plane is already up in the air, what to you do? >> lots of questions. mary, thank you so much. and still ahead a rally in st. louis today is bringing up familiar emotions. hi, i'm jay farner, president of quicken loans. and we're here in detroit with our amazing team members. now, for four years in a row jd power has said that this is the best mortgage experience out there. why is that? 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>> reporter: true deb. and we've been out here long before people were getting here this morning. and if you look, you can see that it is a growing crowd. it is a diverse crowd. it is a multigenerational crowd. there is men, there is woman here. and it is something that may actually surprise some people to see how these folks are coming together. i'm watching people actually pick up trash here in the park while they are gathering. they are hugging each other. they are holding signs that they have taken time to make and gather here for this. but these people are galvanized to do this. we've seen that yesterday there was a down pour and people were still coming out here in the down pour so have their voices heard. so people are motivated and don't want this topic of racial profiling or the issues that they say they have between the community here and st. louis police department that those don't go away. but i got to tell you they are not just from missouri here. i saw some people from oakland and state likes illinois and kansas. so people coming from other regions to be part of this. >> quickly, the people behind you in the yellow vests, who are they? >> reporter: some hoof them are organizers. and they are groups coming all together in one place. we've heard about ferguson in october and different names for it. but all of it together organizing for people to come out here today. a concerted effort to make this happen. >> thank you stephanie. coming up our top story isis moving near baghdad. one of the leaders is asking u.s. the to send in ground troops. we break down the options next. but first, anthony boar deign gives the details on his first tripe to south american count right of way paraguy. >> what is paraguay like? one of those places i've always wanted to go and i always get it confused with the uruguay. >> paraguay we know almost nothing about it. it's the place that germans hid out in after the war and had a succession of the incredibly lurid, over the top like insane military dictatorships. really lampoonable ugly stuff. my great grandfather jean bourdain disappeared in that area. he. so i went to look into this question and while doing that looked into paraguy, which is at various times seen as sort of a yutopia for colonists. >> what drew people there. >> the promise of unlimited wealth and agricultural land. and the primary language is not spanish or portuguese. it's quaranine. they ordered all citizens to intermarry and as best as possible mix or eradicate the stain of their european heritage. >> it's very interesting. >> it is. and it is a mixed, very mixed culture. and a very remote one. i mean who goes to paraguay? 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they have already told the u.s. that unless the u.s. fights against president -- they are not. >> the reason they are not defending is geopolitically it is not to their advantage. the kurdish people for the lo longest period of time have wanted to expand and grow their own nation, if you will. and they have no desire to see that happen. so it is tot the long term to see assad of syria fall clz of course aligned with iran whose for the turks and the sunnis in the region the long term threat so they are sitting back and wait to see what unfolds first. >> i want to play a clip from turkey's prime minister. take a listen. >> here we are ready do everything if there is a clear strategy that after isis that we can be sure that our border will be protected. we don't want the regime anymore on our border pushing people towards turkey. we don't want other terrorist organizations to be active there. >> so what do you make of that? he is saying we are not going to get involved in no one else does. does that mean that kobani will fall and then escalate the situation with all the coalition forces having to go in down the road? >> exactly. i'm afraid that kobani is going to fall. we are looking at a possible massacre of a magnitude yet to be seen, ununfortunately. and it could be one of these situations again where the president steps in and decides to heighten the military tempo and our activity in the area. but yes, i'm afraid kobani will fall unless anything is done by the united states. there is no getting around that. and what the minister, or the president of turkey is addressing is is the fact of the kurdish state again. we does not want to see a kurdish state expand and grow. >> looking at the map that we've got up right now it is fascinating. because turkey is borpded by narrator: these are the skater kid: whoa narrator: that got torture tested by teenagers and cried out for help. from the surprised designers. who came to the rescue with a brilliant fix male designer: i love it narrator: which created thousands of new customers for the tennis shoes that got torture tested by teenagers. the internet of everything is changing manufacturing. is your network ready? a rally is happening right now in st. louis where protesters are gathering all week to gain justice for michael brown. the black teenager shot to death by a white police officer darren wilson. protesters want officer wilson arrested and also want the da off the case because he is biased. even though he is an elected official. and protests are expected considering the violence that happened before is there message getting lost? >> yes. completely and totally lost. when cryou burn down a qdoba an throw rock the police cars and others your message is totally and completely lost. and there is an infints mall number of people here this weekend. these guys, their message -- they are doing a disservice to their message. >> what is the message then? what do they want to say? >> well that is a very good question. they say don't shoot. but yet a few days ago you had a teenager shoot three times at a police officer. the police officer might have been killed if the gun didn't jam. they say black lives matter except when la tee shah williams gets shot in the eye at the convenient. and they are basically saying no indictment, no peace. they are basically saying we will riot if this police officer does not get indicted. i don't know what they want. >> and i've spoke on the a number of lawyers down there and they are not convinced had officer will actually be indicted because of the circumstances how this all went down. specifically you have had no one has heard from darren wilson yet. how does it play out if in fact the grand jury says we simply can't. and and doesn't matter who the da or the prosecutor is if the grand jury doesn't have enough evidence. >> this crowd has already indicted and convicted and wants officer wilson executed. we don't know the facts. we don't know what happened. only a few people in st. louis county, part of the grand jury know the facts. when the facts come out let's digest fact and let's like civilized people figure out what was the best way to go about it. maybe it was a good shooting maybe it was a bad shooting. we don't know. the reason this is all happening is because there is no leadership. we don't have a mayor, don't have a county executive. we don't have a governor. with e have no leadership out here. everybody wants to be the next al sharpton. nobody wants to be the next martin luther king, jr. >> there is a lot of distrust of the police officers. do you think that's been resolved in any way? have steps been made to maybe improve that even minimally? >> well we do know that ferguson wrote off all of their warrants. the city of st. louis wrote off all of their warrants. i think we are trying. i think the story of the police violence or brutality is a real issue. but when you are speeting at police officers, throwing feces at them saying racially insensitive things to african american officers, not where the conversation starts. >> the protesters have been told if this they lay a hand on any police officer they will be charged with assault. we thank you for your time. and the question, where where in the world is kim jong-un. we'll take you through some of the theories about what's happened to this north korean dictator missing in action. it's tough, but i've managed. but managing my symptoms was all i was doing. so when i finally told my doctor, he said humira is for adults like me who have tried other medications but still experience the symptoms of moderate to severe crohn's disease. and that in clinical studies, the majority of patients on humira saw significant symptom relief. and many achieved remission. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you've had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection. if you're still just managing your symptoms, ask your gastroenterologist about humira. with humira, remission is possible. that's mysteriously out of the public eye. those are some of the factors and concerns in north korea. brian todd looks at the deepening mystery and why it matters here in the u.s. brian? >> reporter: deborah, the anxiety over what's going on inside this regime is heightened. kim jong-un is mia and his absence from public view resonates all the way to washington. a u.s. intelligence official tells cnn it's concerning that kim jong-un is out of sight. the north korean leader didn't show up at the much-anticipated anniversary of the founding of the ruling workers' party, but he did send flowers. >> to skip an event which honors your father and your grandfather is a serious breach of protocol, unless there's some really good reason. i think right now that kim jong-un is suffering under not only a physical disability, but a political one as well. >> reporter: is kim's power eroding? is he under threat from inside? senior u.s. officials tell cnn there's no indication kim has been completely sidelined or is in very bad health. but videos showing him limping and recent reports of an ankle or leg injury to kim only lead to more questions. >> why not have him just sitting down behind a desk or behind something to project? >> unless he's suffering a severe injury of some sort, i don't think that there should be some intrinsic reason why they don't present him in some kind of a public mode, even if it can't show him walking and being very, very active. >> reporter: south korean officials say the regime appears to be operating normally and there are no signs of unusual military activity inside north korea, often a signal of upheaval. south korea's defense minister also says they have reason to believe kim jong-un is staying at a home near an elite hospital in pyongyang, with his wife and his sister. his younger sister is said to be gaining stature inside the regime. most analysts downplay rumors that she's in charge while her brother's absent. but if kim jong-un is keeping her close by, could he and his sister be threatened? >> it may not be so much an issue of her personal security and well-being, so much as it is, he's got to have some kind of a reliable channel near him. >> but adding to the tension, an exchange of gunfire across the border. when south korean activists released these balloons filled with anti-north korean literature, north korea gunners fired at them. south korea responded with their own machine gun rounds. there were no injuries in that incident, but it was the second exchange of fire dween the two sides this week after a confrontation at sea. now analysts say the longer that kim jong-un's public absence continues, the more worrisome it is for south korea, japan, and the u.s. this is a dangerous regime with nuclear, chemical, biologcal weapons, long-range missiles and right now, no one's sure who's running the place. deborah? >> brian todd for us, thank you. what do you think could happen next with north korea? we'll get some insight now from gordon chang, a daily beast contributor, and author of the book "nuclear showdown: north korea takes on the world." you were just in the brian todd piece. and it was very interesting, you said, a clear violation of protocol that he didn't turn up to this big festival honoring his father. what is going on there? because his uncle was recently executed. so all is not good in north korea. >> no, it certainly isn't. you know, this is north korea, so any scenario could be possible. but i think that we're seeing too many events that suggest that there is not only a physical problem that kim jong-un has, but a political one as well. he missed two events last week to honor both his father and his grandfather, and you know, there have been so many perjures, unexplained deaths, killings over the last four years, this is just a regime in turmoil. so i think that at some point, and this could have been at the end of last year, kim jong-un lost a lot of his authority. >> it's interesting, because over the last three years, kim reportedly replaced over half of the country's top leadership. do you think that mean he was under threat, that he feared those who were closest to him and he wanted to bring in those who he could trust? >> he wanted to do that, but he didn't have an opportunity while his father was alive. the founder of north korea took two decades to train his son, kim jong-il to lead the country. kim jong-un, the current leader, only had about two years. he didn't have the opportunity to learn how to run this regime, which is a very complex balancing act, and he didn't have an opportunity to put his people into place. so you saw this massive turnover after he took over, and that has caused a lot of resentment and a number of people were killed. and in this regime, blood demands blood. so those people who lost relatives and friends and supporters have retaliated in the worst possible manner. and that's why i think you have this regime right now that is in difficulty and especially, i think, kim jong-un, has sort of been sidelined and has been for months. >> and very quickly, you say, blood demands blood. there are reports that he and his sister are somewhere in a home near an exclusive hospital. is it a possibility that they even may be under some form of house arrest? 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>> reporter: well, actually, they're in baghdad, according to iraqi security sources. they believe there are many sleeper cells in the city, and that is why we see almost on a daily basis, one or two suicide bombings, car bombs, going off in the capitol. but the immediate threat to baghdad, of course, is from the outside. they're in a place at the moment, we understand, just about 8 miles from baghdad international airport, we were out on the baghdad defensive perimeter the other day. we were told by iraqi officials there at the moment, isis is just conducting hit-and-run attacks on that defensive perimeter. but really, the really danger is along the euphrates river, just to the northwest of baghdad, where we've seen isis taking, for instance, just a few days ago, the town of heat. they've also, they've apparently today surrounded the town of haditha, also on the euphrates river. that city particularly important, because it is right near a very large dam from where much of the water from baghdad comes. now, several weeks ago, u.s. and coalition air strikes on isis in that area prevented the takeover of that dam. but, of course, now their hold on that area is beginning to look very shaky. we understand from the pentagon, that they did drop supplies, ammunition, water to some beleaguered iraqi outposts, iraqi army outposts in the area. but that doesn't seem to be quite enough. as you mentioned, the anbar provincial council is asking baghdad to get american troops to deploy in anbar, to stop the onslaught of isis, but the baghdad government says they haven't received that request. and in the past, baghdad has been adamant about not allowing u.s. combat troops in iraq and the obama administration basically says the same thing. that they have no intention at this point to deploy u.s. troops here. >> you know, ben, you talk about these sleeper cell cells, you t about these car bombs in baghdad. obviously, isis uses terror to control people. are they able, once they go into these towns, to actually hold them? you've got to think, baghdad has 9 million people. certainly, isis doesn't have that many forces. how are they able to take all these different areas and control them at the same time? >> reporter: at the moment, when you speak to security officials here, people from the army, the government, there is not the impression that anybody expects isis to come marching into baghdad. not only is it a city of 9 million people, a sprawling city, but it's also a city with a shia majority, which would be extremely difficult for isis to hold. its most fertile areas where it controls are those where there's a sunni majority, a majority that traditionally has been alienated in recent years from the government in baghdad. so there's not an immediate worry that somehow they're going to be taking over the iraqi capital. the problem is that they are increasingly present around the city, to the south, to the west, and to the north as well. so that's the real problem is, that simply they're getting awfully close to the city and close to the airport as well. >> all right. ben wedeman, certainly, a huge risk there. we appreciate it. thank you. and now let's bring in aaron mcpike. she joins us live from the white house. anbar province is asking for american boots on the ground. let's be clear, baghdad, the capital, they say they're not making that kind of request. so what are you hearing from the white house? is there a different message calling out of anbar than there is from baghdad, for example? are they not in sync? >> reporter: essentially what we are hearing from all corners of the administration is that they are in this battle, they are in the for the long haul for this fight and they realize it is going to continue to be difficult as it is now. i want to play something for you that state department spokeswoman marie heart said just yesterday. listen. >> we didn't think that as soon as we started air strikes and taking out their fighters and their positions and their tanks that they would just stop fighting. they've shown themselves to be brutal, aggressive. that's why we're taking the fight to them. no one thought as soon as they took air strikes they would stop fighting. >> we also heard from deputy national adviser tony blinken yesterday, and he said expect there to be more situations like the one in kobani. his words were, "expect more kobanis." so what they are saying is that this is going to continue as they continue this fight. now, as we know from as the administration has been talking about this over the last month or so, their first goal was to begin reconnaissance missions and then take on a big campaign of air strikes. it seems as though they expected a long air strike campaign to buy them time, but, obviously, isis is fighting back so brutally and it is a bigger problem than they may have expected, because then the last step is to train iraqi troops wells syrian rebels, and that was going to take months and secretary of state john kerry at one point said, it could take a year or years. >> you really have to wonder, in looking at it all, erin, whether or not the administration rethinking the effectiveness of the air strikes and whether those targeted strikes are really weakening isis or whether isis is showing a new resolve. erin mcpike at the white house for us, thank you. and happening right now, passenger screenings for ebola are beginning at jfk airport in new york. it is the first of five airports that will get these enhanced screenings around the country. public health officials are trying to prevent another ebola-infected person from entering the united states. alan kosich is following the story for us. >> reporter: a new line of defense in safeguarding the u.s. from the threat of ebola. five u.s. airports, beginning today with new york's jfk international, screening passengers who arrive from affected countries in west africa. >> we're stepping up protection for people coming into this country and for americans related to travel. >> reporter: the additional protection includes checking passengers for symptoms, asking them questions about their travel history, and taking their temperatures with non-contact infrared thermometers. >> we expect to see some patients with fever, and that will cause some obvious and understandable concern at the airports. >> reporter: that heightened concern already on display this week when a us airways passenger apparently joked, i have ebola, you're all screwed. unamused, crews in full hazmat gear ♪ who's going to do it? 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>> reporter: and agan's gop opponent, thom tillis, the speaker of the north carolina house, has missed so much work to campaign two local papers called on him to resign. >> i've chaired numerous counterterrorism hearings. >> reporter: still, hagan's absence from an isis-related briefing strikes a sensitive core, since gruesome beheadings have made isis a very real voter concern. it also speaks to the voterish of 2014, washington not doing its job and it's playing out in campaigns all across the country. democrats are using it too. listen to what duck democrat allison lur allis allison lunder gen grimes told me about her opponent. grimes is trying to deal with another big 2014 issue, democrats dragged down by an unpopular president. but she got twisted up over a basic question, did she vote for barack obama? >> i was actually in '08 a delegate for hillary clinton and i think that kentuckyians know i'm a clinton democrat through and through. i respect the sanctity of the ballot box and i know that the members of this editorial board do as well. >> so you're not going to answer? >> again, i don't think that the president is on the ballot, as much as mitch mcconnell might want him to be. >> that was dana bash reporting. thanks, dana. well, isis has its grip on a town that's visible from the border with turkey. turkey's hearing the calls to tackle isis head-on. we'll go to the border next to see just how dire the situation is today. big day? ah, the usual. moved some new cars. hauled a bunch of steel. kept the supermarket shelves stocked. made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. what's up for the next shift? ah, nothing much. just keeping the lights on. 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>> nick paton walsh, thank you. some hundred thousand refugees have already fled that city. and as isis continues to gain ground, critics are questioning the effectiveness of the air strikes and if they're worth the price tag. cristina alesci takes a look at the number. >> the u.s. is spending millions of taxpayer dollars to destroy ooh isis, and in the process, destroying millions of dollars worth of man-made military equipment. this is equipment that the u.s. left behind or sold to the iraqi government during its last campaign in the region. vehicles like humvees that were later captured by isis. so now the u.s. is flying jets that cost between $22,000 and $62,000 an hour, carrying $30,000 bombs to destroy humvees worth about $250,000. 49 in total since attacks began in august. some of the other targets include less expensive equipment, like pickup trucks and guard towers. not only does america have to destroy the gear, but analysts now say the u.s. may eventually have to replace it. that's so the iraqi military can secure its own borders. but those are future costs. right now, the pentagon says the u.s. is spending between $7.5 and $10 million a day. that's a drop in the bucket compared to the $500 billion the pentagon requested for next year's budget. but you've got to keep in mind, america is early in its campaign. if it escalates the level of its operations significantly by ramping up air strikes and sending in 25,000 troops as some analysts recommend, the bill rises to $1.8 billion a month. in new york, i'm cristina alesci. >> and thank you, krcristina. i'm joined now by ryan crocker with texas a&m. and ambassador crocker, is it ti time, everybody keeps asking this, but is it time finally to consider some sort of boots on the ground to stop this advance? >> well, thank you for having me. >> of course. >> i think it's been clear all along, you cannot win a war against a determined opponent on the ground from the air. and this is what we're seeing. at the same time, we cannot over dramatize that it's not waterloo and the battle of ghettysburg rolled into one. it is not a strategic route. it is obviously a significant humanitarian crisis. and it will be a major propaganda victory for the islamic state if they are able to take it. what they are telling us is you can't stop us with your air campaign. more significantly, that's what we're seeing in anbar. haditha, and i think, not too far from now, the provincial capital of kobani. >> and ambassador, you know, one thing, though, are we seeing a shift in isis? isis has now rerouted a number of its forces that brought them from areas in syria that were fighting bashar al assad's regime there. now they are here in kobani. they are in the anbar province. is this a shift in isis' strategy and it is a -- is it, essentially, a logistical shift, or is it a propaganda shift on some levels? >> reporter: i think it's both. in anbar, they are tightening up their lines, they are consolidating territory. they want all of anbar. and they are well on the way to getting it. as i said, i think it's a matter of time for haditha and eventually the capital of row manny. kobani is a propaganda fight, simply to show because all of the world's media is on this as though it were the battle of the century. so that, for them, is propaganda. if they can show that they can take kobani in spite of our air strikes, they win a major propaganda victory. but, again, i just have to say, you cannot win a fight like this only from the air. you cannot do it. >> yeah. dianne feinstein, the senator from california was right some weeks ago when she said, it takes an army to beat an army. >> yeah, there's no question about that. and it's going to be very interesting to see the sort of breakdown and the assessment afterwards, as to how effective these air strikes were, and in fact, whether any ground was actually gained. all right. ambassador ryan crocker, thank you so much for us on the phone there for us. well, up next, did a police officer go too far? 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[ screaming ] >> oh, [ bleep ]! >> reporter: it shows hammond, indiana, police using a stun gun on passenger jamal jones after he refuses to get out of his girlfriend's car during a 13-minute standoff. two children are in the backseat. yolanda gray recognizes the officer shattering the window. >> that's the guy, the same one that tackled me, the one that busts the glass open. oh, my gosh. oh, my goodness, the baby's crying. i heard my baby crying. she was standing in the street. >> reporter: in 2006, gray and her family were pulled out of their car moments after leaving their driveway. no one told them why. police ordered her husband to get out of the car. he complied. this is where it happened? >> this is exactly where it happened. they asked he to get out of the car. i get out of the car with my hands up, and the one that tackled me came from this side of the street and as i was almost where i needed to be, he tackled me. i never saw him coming. >> reporter: gray says she was bruised and manhandled after being put down on the street. according to court papers, police say she refused to get out of the car and when she did, started running before police tackled her. >> my eldest son jumps out of the car, screaming, that's my mom, that's my mom! he was put into a choke hold and a gun put on his head. >> reporter: and your other son? >> my other son was taken out of the car and he was handcuffed. >> reporter: and your daughter? >> my daughter, they didn't even -- no one attended to the baby. >> reporter: turns out she and her lawyers say it was a case of mistaken identity, that police were allegedly looking for a man who she says looked nothing like her husband. yet gray's husband was charged with disorderly conduct and they were both also charged with resisting an officer. she says she declined a plea offer before trial. >> they said they would give us one last chance if we would just write a letter of apology, they would drop all of the charges. >> reporter: and you said? >> absolutely not. >> reporter: the couple was acquitted and sued the same officer, two others, and the city on a civil rights claim. they settled out of court. so when she heard and saw the class shattering innocent a few weeks ago, it hit home. what kind of memories does this bring back to you? >> oh, the most horrific memories. my kids' innocence were taken that day. >> reporter: a lot of people are asking, why didn't the man just get out of the car and get out of the car and it might have ended the whole thing? >> i am enraged every time someone makes that comment, because they have no idea. and we did everything that they asked, but the moment that we got out, that was when the horrific harassments started. >> reporter: cnn has been unable to reach the police department for comment on the 2006 case. the officer who grey says tackled her, coincidentally, the same one seen breaking the class in this separate incident, also could not be reached. in a statement issued this week, police said the window was broke because officers were concerned for their safety after the passenger reached for a backpack in the rear seat and refused lawful orders to get out of the car. susan candiotti, cnn, hammond, indiana. >> after watching that video, it will be very difficult to get out of any car when a police officer asks you. i want to bring in our legal guys, avery friedman, ba civil rights attorney and law professor is in cleveland. so avery, let me ask you, the most recent case, there are two sides. the officer says jones did not get out of the car when ordered, that he reached into the backseat. but was this excessive force in your eyes? the way he used that device to shatter the window. and then he tased him in front of children. >> well, remember also, that deb, this is a seat belt stop. and the reality is that it's clearly excessive force. one of the standards is, does the behavior shock the conscience of the reasonable person? of course it does. the second issue is proportionality. this is a seat belt stop. and again, this wasn't instantaneous, it was 13 minutes. and i have to tell you something, if linda mahon and jamal jones wouldn't have filed this case on their own, i would have hitchhiked to hammond, indiana, to bring this suit. it is really objectively outrageous and the case is going to wind up going to a federal jury. >> and you look at the video. that is being filmed by a child in the backseat. and richard, you know, what's fascinating, also, about this is that the woman, lisa, was actually on the phone with the police department saying, i am afraid, i don't want to get out of the car, here's what's going on. so why didn't anybody intercede? and also, did this police officer even have the right to ask a passenger for his identification if this was a seat belt stop? >> that's the thing here. i mean, how do you say, cha-ching? because at the end of the day, they're going to play a lot of money to this family. the question is, will it be a verdict or will they settle this case? but, this was a simple seat belt stop. they put spikes under the tires so the car couldn't get away. they questioned the driver, they questioned the passenger, then they asked the passenger for i.d. he says, i don't have my license. as he reaches to grab a piece of paper and wants to hand it to the officer through the window, he doesn't want to roll the window down. they say, take the window down, he says, no, take my information, that's when they go crazy. they say they felt that they were in fear. they felt that their lives were in fear because of his actions. meanwhile, the driver is on the phone giving a play by play to the police. the 14-year-old daughter in the backseat is videotaping the incident. and had they had the technology of image keeper going at this time, they would have had a documented gps coordinates, time, date, everything, sent to a certified server. i mean, it's admissible evidence here. i don't know how you get around the taping of this thing. i don't know how you get around the conduct, tasing -- it's fortunate he didn't get shot. >> but, avery, what happened in ferguson. some people are saying, you know, that's intimidating police and police are going to sort of hold back. you do not see the police holding back in this case, and they're suing the officers for malice, that they were aggressive, had no reasonable basis to question the passenger in the car. what is going on in these police officers' minds? >> well, i think what's going on is, you have a situation where you've got too much coffee and you have too many doughnuts. because that's the only reasonable explanation for the behavior. and i've got to tell you, deb, i represent police officers, well, at least the good ones. you don't see this. linda mahon was on her way to the hospital, because her mother was dying. and a good officer will actually recognize what's going on, not only stop it, but escort people to the hospital. i've seen it time and time again. this is way out of line. i don't agree with richard on one thing. i don't think it's about cha-ching cha-ching. >> no, but now it is. now it is. now the passengers in the car -- >> -- doing justice. >> if there was aggressive, and it appears -- but richard, what defense do the police officers have, given that this woman was on the phone with the police department, saying, i don't want to get out of the car, i am afraid. what does it come down to? >> it's not going to -- that's not going to fly as a defense here. they have an obligation to listen to instructions by an officer of the law. and the fact that things have been happening in ferguson and throughout the country and are making headlines today, that doesn't give you a free pass to ignore a directive from a police officer. so they're going to be -- i think what's going to happen is, as this case unfolds, you're going to hear that a police officers had a description of an individual that matched the description of the passenger, and that's why they took the extra steps to get information from him. they did not need a reasonable suspicion to ask them to get out of the car, if they feared for their safety. >> all right, well, listen -- ultimately, ultimately, it's the images of the videotape and this videotape is actually very, very hard to work. it's very hard to hear this screams of the children. it's very hard to hear this woman saying, i am afraid! richard herman, avery friedman, thank you. >> nice to see you. >> you too. >> take care. and parents, listen up. because if your teen uses a popular photo sharing app called snapchat, yeah, you're going to hear what we have to say. hackers claim to have obtained hundreds of thousands of images and they might share them this weekend. financial noise financial noise financial noise ♪ want to change the world? 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>> oh, it absolutely does. you know, it's one thing if interaged minors are sending these messages to each other, but if it gets into a website like snap save and somebody else hacks into it, or the person receiving the original message can screen save and keep an image of themselves, even though it's supposed to disintegrate on snapchat, they can still keep it and transmit to somebody else. and if they transmit it like that, they're transmitting child pornography, essentially. especially if it becomes adults that get it. if a young girl is dating a 17-year-old or 18-year-old boy and sends a selfie like that and he does something else with it or sends his own back, that's transmitting child pornography and if it's an adult, they can be criminally charged. >> so, david, these images are expected to leak on an online forum. it's the same online forum that leaked nude celebrity photos from icloud. does this -- you know, does this hacking really mean that just, don't do it. don't take the pictures. we heard that jennifer lawrence, the actress, she said that putting those images online was a sex crime. is there any such thing as privacy? >> well, when you put things on technology, you have to have an expectation that there is the possibility for it to be hacked. and this isn't just a local thing in the united states. i'm actually in malta, which is southwest of rome in the smart city, and there are discussions here on hacking. so it's a global problem that we see happening all over the place. and it's something that if you put your information on there, even if it's something that touts being secure or that your information should be instantly deleted, you shouldn't necessarily trust it, because you really don't know where that information is going, what types of avenues it's going under. don't do it on your technology or phone, do it in the privacy of your home or anywhere else. and it's horrible what happened to jennifer lawrence and all the other folks out there, but you really shouldn't be putting that type of data in your phone. you should be looking at other means to transfer that. >> there's no question. jennifer lawrence said, look, she was in a committed, loving relationship and so she was sharing images of herself with her boyfriend, not with the whole world. tom, these cyberhackers keep coming back. they keep finding vulnerabilities that effectively exploit people. why haven't they been caught? >> well, in some cases, they're closing down their website as soon as it becomes public that they use that website. and just the proliferation worldwide of this, it's nearly possible for the authorities to prevent hundreds of thousands of images from being transmitted from a number of websites globally. you know, it's difficult enough to shut down gee haddy websites, much less these type of websites. >> and jennifer lawrence said something very interesting. she said, you know what, anybody who accessed those photographs, shame on them. shame on them. they shouldn't be looking at those, they were private. so, anyway, tom fuentes, david kennedy, we thank you. >> you're welcome. >> thank you so much. thanks, deborah. >> of course. still ahead, the southern islands of japan are getting hit by a massive drenching typhoon. how long is this typhoon going to last? and a live look at st. louis where protesters are marching to demand justice for michael brown. more details, ahead. well, it may no longer be a super typhoon, but typhoon vongfong is still massive and soaking parts of japan, including okinawa. alexandra steel joins me. it's a slow-moving system. is that creating concerns about flooding? >> absolutely. it was a super typhoon, 185, stand, down to 85, but still, it is still quite a beast in terms of the amount of rain we're seeing and also the winds. although we have seen significant structural weakening with this thing. so that is certainly the good news. but still, already, we've seen about 9 to 13 inches of rain on okinawa and also wind gusts to 11 miles per hour. rain accumulations for the most part, the heaviest to the west of that, but here, we're going to watch this thing move north, move northeast, and then make its way towards tokyo, but certainly, a lot weaker state, no question about it. the winds still pretty intense, though. we're going to see winds 50, 60, 70 miles per hour. as we go through monday, the axis of the winds moves north and east towards tokyo. that's a monday night affair. but the winds certainly, much less than what they've been and even what they are now. so there's the track. and we're going to watch it move towards tokyo. but certainly, we've seen a lot of weakening, deb, but we will see and already have seen about 10 and 20 inches of rain and more wind. >> all right. one to watch. at least it's not a supertyphoon. thank you. 85-mile-an-hour winds. who thought that would be refreshing. alexandra steel, thank you. each week, we are shining a spotlight on the top ten cnn heroes of 2014. when this week's honoree learned about the lack of access for fitness training for people with disabilities in his city, he got to work the best way he knew how. meet ned norton. >> when i'm running, i feel limitless. being in motion makes me feel free. when you're really pushing yourself, that's when you really feel alive. but there are millions of people around the world that are facing severe physical limitations. they can't be independent. they can't live their lives. i spent years training olympic athletes, football players, body builders. one day, a young guy, newly spinal cord injured, came to the gym asking for help. at first, i didn't know what to do, but we just worked together and we made tremendous progress. take a breath, reach out, reach out. bring it back. before you knew it, my phone rang off the hook. people asking for help. bring it up. so i opened a gym designed to fit their needs. ready to go to work? 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we're live, on the ground. and we begin with the militant group, isis. it continues its assault on two key fronts this hour, making advances in both iraq and syria. coalition air strikes are ongoing, but the militants don't seem to be slowing down. here's what we know. officials from anbar province claim that isis dispatched as many as 10,000 fighters there. the anbar provincial council is asking for the u.s. to send ground forces to stop the isis advance. hours ago, coalition air strikes killed more than 30 isis militants west of ramadi. u.s. and allied war planes had been hitting isis targets in syria and iraq since yesterday, striking a command and control facility, a staging building, a fighting position, and two small units north of kobani. on the turkish border with syria, reports that the city of kobani is also in a very bad position. the kurds fighting isis are greatly outnumbered. let's bring in cnn's ben wedeman in baghdad, where there's concern that isis is closing in on iraq's capital city. >> actually, they're in baghdad, according to iraqi security sources. they believe there are many sleeper cells in the city, and that is why we see almost on a daily basis, one or two suicide bombings, car bombs, going off in the capital. but the immediate threat to baghdad, of course, is from the outside. they're in place at the moment, we understand, just about eight miles from baghdad international airport, we were out on baghdad defensive perimeter the other day. we were told by iraqi officials there that at the moment, isis is just conducting hit-and-run attacks on that defensive perimeter, but really the real danger is look the euphrates river, just to the northwest of baghdad, where we've seen cyst isis taking, for instance, just a few days ago, the town of heat. they've also, also, apparently today surrounded the town of haditha also on the euphrates river. that city particularly important, because it is right near a very large dam from where much of the water from baghdad comes. now, several weeks ago, u.s. and coalition air strikes on isis in that area prevented the takeover of that dam, but, of course, now their hold on that area is beginning to look very shaky. we understand from the pentagon that they did drop supplies, ammunition, water to some beleaguered iraqi outposts, iraqi army outposts in the area. but that doesn't seem to be quite enough. as you mentioned, the anbar provincial council is asking baghdad to get american troops to deploy in anbar, to stop the onslaught of isis. but the baghdad government says there haven't received that request. and in the past, baghdad has beened a manhattan about not allowing u.s. combat troops in iraq and the obama administration basically says the same thing. that they have no intention at this point to deploy u.s. troops here. >> ben wedeman, thank you so much. well, is it time to rethink the strategy against isis? let me bring in cnn military analyst, lieutenant colonel rick franco francona, and as we just heard, there are up to 10,000 troops headed to the anbar area. that is on the doorstep of baghdad. the question, where the iraqi troops? why haven't they been able to push these fighters back? >> that's the question of the day, and in spite of all this american air power and coalition air power that's being brought to bear, the iraqi army still has not been able to dislodge the isis fighters from virtually anywhere. everywhere they've tried to go, except the mosul dam and hang ton to the dam of that hee haditha, the iraqi army has pretty much failed miserably. an iraqi officer said the leadership is all but gone. so we're seeing says taking advantage of this. and you brought up a very good point, was being able to move 10,000 fighters from mosul to baghdad. so that's 250 miles. consider that they're doing that at the same time they're running a battle in kobani, which is 500 miles away from baghdad. so their command and control is still fairly effective, despite the pounding they've taken from the air. >> but let's talk about that. why aren't these air strikes aiming directly at these fighters? they've got to be moving with caravans, convoys, you know, those are the kinds of things that satellites could pick up from the air in the desert. so why aren't there more direct strikes on the fighters themselves? >> yeah, good point. and you know, you can pick these up from drones, from all the other reconnaissance aircraft. and also the pilots themselves are flying armed reconnaissance. in other words, they're fully armed and looking for targets on the roads. but isis has taken to moving on the back roads. they're also moving at night. they're trying to space themselves out, move when they know we're not in the area. we can't be over every area at one time. they're pretty aware of when we're flying and we're not flying that many sordys. if you look at the sordy count, it sounds high, but it's really not. 400 air strikes over these couple of weeks is nothing compared to the normal ops tempo that we in the air force are used to. so we're not putting the resources that we have to good use. >> i want to talk about that in just a moment. but you've got between 8,000 and up to 30,000 isis fighters. where's the vulnerability? don't they overextend themselves to the point where they wear themselves down, or is this a matter of getting troops on the ground, getting them in there to fight what perhaps could be a weakened isis? >> this is what we're seeing is asymmetric warfare at its finest. they're using everything they have to their advantage and to our disadvantage. they're moving on the ground in small units, doing these hit-and-run tactics and they're dispersing themselves, mixing themselves up in the civilian population, blending in very well. we're trying to do this in 30,000 feet. it's very difficult to do that. when the pilots are overkobani andch wh watching the fighting, can see the fighting but can't tell the good guys from the bad guys. and once day get within 30,000 meters of each other, you can't put bombs down without eyes on the target. so without people on the ground to control this, it's very difficult to be effective in close quarters. >> so not only are they chameleons blending into the general populous, but that's another way they control them. lieutenant colonel rick francona, thank you for your insights. and happening right now, passenger screenings for ebola are happening at jfk airport in new york. it's the first of five airports that will get enhanced screenings around the country. public health officials are trying to prevent another ebola-infected person from entering the united states. let's bring in alison kosik who's at jfk today. alison, do they really believe they can stop somebody who might be infected from entering the united states simply by taking their temperature? >> reporter: deb, i think what you're seeing is the cdc coming out and really setting those expectations and saying, you know what, the screenings that they put into effect starting here at jfk are really just one layer of what they're trying to do, to try to keep someone who may have ebola from leaving the airport and getting into the general population. so what's happening here today, as what will happen at four other airports starting on thursday here in the u.s., is once these passengers who come from some of these hot zone areas where ebola has really ravaged their countries in guinea, sierra leone, and liberia is these passengers are going to be let off to a designated area, to have their temperatures taken. they're going to fill out questionnai questionnaires, they'll be asked questions about their travel. if they've had any contact with anybody who has ebola. if everything checks out, they will be allowed to go ahead on their way. however, they will be asked to hand over their contact information. also, to log their temperatures for another 21 days. and that gets to your point. the question of whether or not this is really effective. and that really is a good question. and it's something that the cdc realizes something that's being asked. i want to hear you what one official said earlier. >> this screening procedure, for example would not necessarily have caught the patient in dallas as indicated. and no port of exit or port of entry or airline response procedure will supplant the need for state and local public health departments, clinics, hospitals, to be prepared to detect a case might it occur. >> reporter: and in duncan's situation, the man in dallas who you remember, his situation was, he didn't show any signs of being sick when he was at the airport. only after he left the airport did he exhibit those signs. and that is the criticism or the worry that many people have, deb. >> yeah, there's no question. because you can answer a question, but if you don't answer it truthfully, then, obviously, it's going to make it much more difficult to track, though it sounds as if, at least, the health care workers will have a list of people that they can follow up with. all right, alison kosik, thanks so much. and folks from around the nation are rallying in st. louis. it is a weekend of resistance. when folks think about what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy. but the energy bp produces up here creates something else as well: jobs all over america. engineering and innovation jobs. advanced safety systems & technology. shipping and manufacturing. across the united states, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. when we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. that's not a coincidence. it's one more part of our commitment to america. ring ring! ...progresso! you soup people have my kids loving vegetables. well vegetables... shh! taste better in our savory broth. vegetables!? 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what are you feeling? what are you sensing? >> reporter: well, still sensing the same anger that we saw out here weeks ago. this justice for all rally is about to get underway in this park here that you see. i'm going to do a bit of a pivot here. if you turn around, you can see they're just now starting to file into the park here as things get underway. these are some of the demonstrators, several hundred of them, that started several blocks up this way. they're now making their way into the park here, where they're going to be holding this rally. the rally going to be taking place for several hours. the protests so far this morning have been peaceful. the protesters, you can see, carrying all sorts of signs, chanting, "no justice, no peace." peaceful protest this morning. we saw some demonstrations last night in front of the ferguson police department. that was peaceful as well. they're out here in support of michael brown, but also the 18-year-old that was shot and killed by an off-duty st. louis police officer on wednesday night. police saying that myers fired first, fired three shots at the officer, the officer returned fire. myers' parents, deborah, do not believe that narrative. they believe that myers was unarmed. i spoke to his parents yesterday. they are still grieving for the loss of their only child. >> it's the worst pain ever. shouldn't no parent have to put their kid away. kids is supposed to bury their parents. he was my only child. my only baby. he was my baby. and they took him away from me. >> reporter: a mother very much -- a mother very much in pain there. the myers' family calling for peaceful demonstrations, whether it be today or tomorrow or going forward. as for this demonstration, the folks plan to be out here in this park, deborah, for several hours. deborah? >> and jason, you look at the case of myers, it's a little bit different, because police there saying he did have a gun, michael brown did not. although the officer in that case saying he reached for the officer's gun. what is it that the protesters really want to communicate? what is their message to everyone? >> reporter: well, it's interesting that you use the word communication, because the perspective that i get from being here on the ground is that there is no real communication with most of the people here. whatever people may believe, they're entrenched in their beliefs. whether it be those who support the police department, many of those people, most of them white, feel as though they can't express that point of view without being called a racist. on the flip side of this, you have many in fact african-american community, who do not trust the police, who feel like white people aren't listening to what they have to say. so when it comes to communication, again, i find that to be an interesting word, because i feel like people are expressing their points of view, but i'm not sure one side is really listening to what the other side has to say. and throughout all of that, the facts, whatever the facts may be, seem to be getting lost in many ways, between all the rhetoric and all the protesters going back and forth. and people like that, who obviously have very strong points of view, but a point of view that people don't hear. that's someone who's angry. but the facts get lost in all the anger. >> all right. jason carroll for us there on the ground. we know that you're busy working your contacts and your sources there. thanks so much. and some of the protests that happened this week got very violent. that's because some folks don't trust the police. many of them, in fact. so how do you bridge that gap? 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>> we're talking about officers. >> officers in general. >> so why now? why is this anger and outrage at how people are being treated -- was it just something that needed a window to open up? >> i think you have to put it into historical context. for a long time now, there have always been challenges between particularly communities of color and the police. and as we move forward, and even though we've seen some great advances in the profession, in the relationship building, there's still an undercurrent of concern here. what we saw stemming from ferguson and everything post-that, anything that looks similar to some question around the police, people are questioning it now. they're not feeling good about it any longer. so we've got to really get a message out. we've got to start talking about this issue. because, number one, you've got to have police in your community. and police have to have communities that trust them as well too. so, as one of your guys was saying on the ground there in ferguson a few moments ago, it's all about communication. there's totally a lack of that that's occurring right now. >> so when we look at what's happening, why do you think -- you know, ferguson appears to be making some effort to smooth things over. but how long is that going to take? i mean, this is clearly, we're talking about a problem that has been decades, generations in the making. >> absolutely. >> this doesn't fix itself overnight. >> no, it doesn't, because it's been unattended for a very, very long time in that community and other communities as well too. so what we have to remember is that in order to fix that relationship, it's going to take some time. which makes it very difficult in ferguson, of course, is the fact that you have a community that is outraged going back to the michael brown shooting. nothing has changed in that community one way or the other. but we all have to be patient and wait for an outcome in the judicial system. whether we trust that system or not, that is the system we have in this country. but until then, people are feeling a lot of anger, a lot of angst. we're continuing to see incidents that occur across the country, that continues to fuel that. and i will say, as i've been saying for the last couple of weeks, is that what every police department in this country and every community in this country need to do right now, whether you have a great relationship with your police department or not, is that you need to set down and you need to start talking about these anxieties and fears so that we can reduce that and start trusting each other again, or maybe for the first time. >> right. and ignoring it will not make it go away. it's all about communication. thank you so much. we appreciate your time on this saturday today. and we turn to isis, which has now a grip on a town visible from the border with turkey. turkey is hearing the calls to tackle isis head hobb. we'll go to the border next to see just how dire the situation is at this moment. it's a bit like asking if they want a big hat... ...'scuse me... ...or a big steak... ...or big hair... i think we have our answer. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. ♪ want to change the world? 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the short answer, when they start to show symptoms. those symptoms, though, can take from 2 to 21 days to kick in. in other words, a person could travel and interact with others for days, weeks without passing on the virus. the average incubation period is 8 to 10 days. the early symptoms of the disease, fever, weakness, muscle pain, headache, and sore throat are often mistaken for the flu, malaria, typhoid fever or dysentery. but then things get worse. vomiting, bloody diarrhea, also internal and external bleeding, skin rashes and purple spots on the skin. once the symptoms set in, the person is contagious and has 6 to 16 days to either beat the virus or die. the death rate, high, 50 to 90% chance of death, depending on the strain and access to medical care. if an infected patient with a strong immune system gets proper care, the chance of surviving goes up. but if they survive, the virus could remain in the see men for up to three months. and if you survive, you have immunity for at least ten years, but what's still unknown, if you're immune from other strains of ebola. answers and questions for a frightening disease. >> so that is the real deal about ebola. but it's easy to get caught up in the fear and the worry. we're joined by a panel of doctors to separate fact from fiction. dr. alexander garza is associate dean at the st. louis university college of public health and social justice. also with me, dr. mark rut. he is chief of the division of infectious diseases at the university of nebraska medical center, where a journalist is being treated. plus, seema yaz minute, staff writer "the dallas morning news." she's a former cdc disease detective. dr. yasmin, do you think that the fear factor is unnecessarily driving up both the cost of protecting the u.s. against ebola but also the general fear. a lot of people believe that if somebody is near you, that they're contagious. >> there's so many misconceptions about ebola, deb, and understandably, it is a very scary disease, and we're seeing it in west africa, where so many thousands of people have died, very painful and horrific deaths. so we understand that. but it's really important to keep a perspective on this. we keep hearing about dallas, where i am right now. it's being called ground zero for ebola. it really isn't. ground zero is west africa. so any of our fear, anxiety, and concern has to remain focused on west africa, as long as the epidemic continues there, there will be imported cases in the u.s. and in parts of europe. >> and dr. rut, you're the chief of infectious diseases at nebraska university medical center, where the nbc photo journalist is being treated for ebola. clearly, west africa, as yasmin said, the epicenter of all of this, but what is your facility able to learn from the mistakes in dallas, both to recognizing and treating and making sure everything is contained? >> yeah, deb, so as an academic medical center, i think really part of our mission is to learn from these cases. and so, clearly, we're trying to learn as much as we can from the two cases that we've cared for in our biocontainment unit, using investigational agents and immune serum to try to buy time for our patients until their own immune system kicks in. but we're also learning from this case in dallas that these patients can show up in our emergency department ifs they travel to those endemic areas and we have to be able to quickly recognize those cases and screen them and get them into the appropriate care. but as your piece has already documented, this is not a particularly contagious virus and it's something that people need to keep in perspective. there are a lot of other risks in their lives that are probably greater right now than ebola, although everybody's focused on it. >> everybody's focused on it, obviously, because it is so devastating, if you do contract it. dr. garza, it was very interesting, i was speaking to a number of people in the liberian community in new york city and they said the death of mr. duncan has actually frightened them. that they're not so sure that even if they do run a fever, that they're actually going to go to the hospital to get treated. that presents a whole another layer of issues in terms of trying to contain this, does it not? >> and i think that speaks to the whole idea of not trying to stigmatize that either come from these countries such as liberia, sierra leone, but also not trying to be a little bit overboard with going out and looking actively for ebola in those cases where it doesn't fit the case definition. so just because you're from liberia, if you haven't traveled there in the last three weeks, you don't fit the case definition for ebola. so there should be no reason for people to suspect that they are a case. >> although some of the people actually say that even if they get visitors, they're not necessarily going to let people know that either. so there are a lot of different challenges that are being faced. dr. rupp, your hospital right now has somebody who has ebola. is there any pushback from the nurses or the doctors? are they a little bit concerned, even though they're incredible professionals, are they worried? >> well, deb, i think as you pointed out, you have to have a healthy respect for this virus, but the folks who are caring for this patient here, our doctors, our nurses, the whole care team, you know, is taking the appropriate precautions. we're very confident that we're caring for this patient safely and we're not at great risk. >> dr. yasmin, you said something very interesting, which is, look, you know, the people -- west africa is ground zero. it's not dallas, it's not other places, even though the fear that it's coming to the west has obviously taken root. but do you believe that these new screening measures will, in fact, be able to protect people who may have been exposed to the virus? >> so, deb, if we look historically, when we've tried to do this, before, other countries have attempted fever screening. for example, canada and parts of asia in 2002 and 2003, it was attempted again with swine flu. and it didn't make a big impact with those two epidemics. we've not tried this before in the u.s., so it remains to be seen how it will unfold here. it's really adding another layer of a public health intervention, so 100% of people flying out of liberia, sierra leone and guinea are currently screened for a fever, but it's a very tricky virus to try to track. because of the fact that people can carry it and not even show symptoms for 21 days. >> and i was on the plane coming here the other day and i was a little bit concerned to be in the bathroom. i didn't want to touch anything, because it can live on surfaces. i wasn't necessarily worried about the person sitting ten rows behind me, i was worried that they'd been in a facility where maybe they'd touched something and could have potentially exposed others. how do you control that? 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"a gay man who will chip away at party's image as intolerant and inflexible." national media has repeatedly declared demaio a candidate to watch. demaio first came on to the national scene when he lost to democrat bob filner in the race for san diego mayor. but filner was forced to step down after 18 women claimed sexual harassment. demaio had tried to make filner's behavior a campaign issue. >> any mayor who's going to insist on zero tolerance, when it comes to the issue of sexual harassment. >> but now demaio's being tested by allegations about his own sexual misbehavior and accusations of harassment. it's an issue that escalated this week when he was asked about it at a campaign news conference. >> absolutely untrue. >> reporter: the allegations come from a former campaign staffer who shot down on camera with cnn. todd bossniche said he joined demaio's campaign last year, eager to work for a candidate who shared his values and like himself is an openly gay republican. but he says he was fired after complaining about demaio's aggressive sexual behavior. >> he asked me to come over to his office, which is in the back, and when i came over to his office, his door was open, and he was masturbating. >> and so what did you see when you walked in? >> i came over he was looking at me. >> so, there was no mistaking what was happening? >> there was no mistaking whatsoever. >> reporter: bosnich who became the campaign's policy director says dimaio would repeatedly find him alone and make inappropriate advances, massaging and kissing his neck and groping him. he sels it staays it started on after drinks with a staff at a local bar. he said he got a ride back to his car. >> we were making small talk on the way back and when he pulled up to my car he reached over to my lap and grabbed my crotch. and i flipped out and i pushed his hand away. >> reporter: how did it make you feel? >> um, i just was shocked because i'd never had anyone do something like that to me especially in a position of authority and trust. and at the time i just figured, well, maybe he was drunk and blew it off. but he progressively and progressively the inappropriate touching and incidents continued from there. >> reporter: it was several more months according to bosnich before he mentioned the behavior to the campaign manager. >> the campaign manager who, you know, laughed it off that that's just the way carl is and if i felt that uncomfortable i should have let him know i'm a gay man. >> reporter: he was essentially saying to you, well, it was your fault. >> exactly. he's implying it's my fault, it's incumbent on me to stop carl dimaio from these behaviors and i was really offended. >> reporter: a few weeks later bosnich said he confronts demaio. >> my main point he could stop or drop out of the race was my main point. it was a couple days later that the campaign manager called me into his office and said that carl lost his trust in me and termina mated me. he offered me a position in the county republican party and also told me to sign a nondisclosure agreement in exchange for $50,000. >> reporter: was that hush money? >> you know, i'll let it speak for itself. >> reporter: how did you look at it? >> i took it as an attempt to bribe me to keep my silence. >> reporter: bosnich says he left the campaign without taking any money or signing any papers. he recorded an interview with a local conservative radio station outlining his allegations. that interview never aired. but cnn obtained a copy of that recording. after hearing it we took bosnich's allegations directly to demaio catching up to him after a campaign news conference. he says you were inappropriate in the office, that you would touch him, kiss him, grab his butt -- >> all i can say is the police department -- >> reporter: let me finish the litany. and he also says that you went out for drinks with the staff, you drove him home -- >> all untrue. all of it untrue. >> reporter: you grabbed his crotch. he denied the claims saying they are a cover story of a plagiarist and suspected criminal. >> this is a person who was let go by our campaign manager for plagiarism of taking a report from a national journal and passing it off as his own work. he was terminated. he admitted that he plagiarized. he apologized for plagiarizing and when we told him he was no longer welcome in the staff and in the campaign office even as a volunteer he left. days later he broke in. >> reporter: demaio says the san diego police department is investigating bosnich for breaking into demaio's campaign headquarters smashing commu ini and breaking phone lines. >> he got caught for damage he did to the campaign and now he's manufacturing in essence a cover story to explain away his actions. it's unfortunate. it's untrue. and my hope is that the police department will hold him accountable for his actions against our campaign. >> reporter: and you can provide us with the evidence -- >> oh, absolutely. absolutely. >> reporter: -- that shows both the break-in and -- >> absolutely, absolutely. >> reporter: -- and both the evidence that would refute his claims here that you were somehow inappropriate. >> why don't you come back to the office and we'll talk you through every single e-mail and text message. i think you'll be satisfied. >> reporter: we were taken to the campaign headquarters and briefly shown some documents or materials and wouldn't let us copy them or describe them to you and they did not on their own refute bosnich's claims. police said they investigated the break-ins and sent the findings to the district attorney's office. four months later police still haven't charged anyone with a crime and they refuse to discuss the case on camera or name any potential suspects. did you break in carl demaio also office? >> no, i did not. >> reporter: he denies he was the one that plagiarized from the "national journal." >> we tried to get answers from the demaio campaign. first they demanded to talk to my bosses and had a tom gop consultant take over that call accusing cnn of going on a pawrm witch hunt. >> reporter: when we followed up with a detailed list of questions including whether the campaign manager knew about bosnich's complaints the campaign then hired two high-powered washington attorneys who asked for even more time and more information about what cnn had. cnn followed up with a second detailed letter laying out the information they requested. the next day cnn finally got a response from the lawyers. contact the campaign with your questions. back to square one. their statement was almost exactly what they said when we first asked about it. this is not the first time demaoi has been accused of sexually inappropriate behavior. last year a fellow city council men said he caught him masturbating in a city restroom twice. it's a claim he denies even taking a polygraph test to support his denial. >> this lie crossed the line. it's so gross. it's so untrue it's so humiliating that it demands a response. >> reporter: now todd bosnich has taken an independent lie detector test to support his allegations. >> it corroborated my account of being sexually harassed by carl de demaio. >> reporter: bosnich's attorney gave us a copy of the results and it says no deception indicated. next we go to the white house and what president says about the developments in iraq. hello, everyone, i'm deborah feyerick, thanks for joining us