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Unprecedented case insofar as the u.s. government was charging him with aiding and abetting the enemy under the espionage act by virtue of the fact that he effectively posted documents in the public square also known as the internet. a lot of folks said this is way too stringent for that -- that charge was far too stringent for the crime he committed. >> i hope that in this case in particular we can turn it into a kind of teachable moment -- i hate that word -- or case study as we talk about all...

>> this is strong territory for me. the battle that never ends with the neocons. heres an interview with bill kristol who only seems to emerge vol canically like now when we have forgotten the iraq war. heres what he said about the president being stubborn. this is like gene kirkpatrick. here he goes. >> that was the case study of the reset, and they have just doubled down on it so many times. they never wanted to admit it was wrong. there was a moment two years ago where even i would have said ...

First place is because of this reset policy that boehner is now saying is a failure. it wasnt a failure. it gave us those sanctions. and those sanctions have now helped lead to a more moderate regime in iran. >> this is strong territory for me. the battle that never ends with the neocons. heres an interview with bill kristol who only seems to emerge vol canically like now when we have forgotten the iraq war. heres what he said about the president being stubborn. this is like gene kirkpatrick. he...

Reset policy that boehner is now saying is a failure. it wasnt a failure. it gave us those sanctions. and those sanctions have now helped lead to a more moderate regime in iran. >> this is strong territory for me. the battle that never ends with the neocons. heres my conversation with bill kristol who only seems to emerge volcanically like now when we have forgotten things. heres what he said about the president being stubborn. this is like gene kirkpatrick. >> that was the case study of the res...

Jane velez-mitchell, host of hlns jane velez-mitchell. also jeff toobin, and danny savalas. theres a lot to talk about. first i want to go, jeff toobin, lets begin with you. quick visceral reaction to everything you witnessed today in court. >> well, you know, i had a different reaction than you did, brooke. i could barely watch it. i found it really so unpleasant, so repulsive. particularly, of course, castros remarks. which went on and on. and the self-pity. and the narcissism. and the just ev...

Current program goes on. so that wasnt very smart politics in my view. >> an interesting piece in "new york" magazine by jennifer senior. the speaker is mute but not unintelligible. it -- but now unintelligible. hes a conservative certainly but also an institutionalist, old-school politician that likes to do deals. he has an interest at 63 and leaving a legacy of bipartisan accomplishments behind him. his speakership of late, has become a case study in minefield walking. forcing him to balance o...

Can deal with what is maybe a growing oppression on churches? >> youre certainly right on that. there is a growing oppression on churches, and its quite remarkable. the premise of your statement in houston, i really agree with, which is pastors should worry much more about the living truth of god than about the tax code, and thats precisely right. the conclusion is how do we respond? you suggested giving up, for example, our tax exemption. it doesnt actually quite work that way. if you send a ta...

Because the media decided, because this was an important racially charged case, that im supposed to watch it. and im thinking, there are 13,000 other murders and theres equally compelling cases out there that go ignored because theyre not as media -- it doesnt fit that media box that they want. >> thats why theyre not a mark. >> an interesting case study because of the coverage, because of the potential in the media bias, because of the political correctness involved that this case suddenly beca...

Really, after even if zimmerman initially was the aggressor, turn on him and get the upper hand. so its a fluid situation, but i think those two were the key witnesses. >> this is a case study in the difference between witnesses. look at the witness yesterday and today. they are nothing look. when you talk about credibility, you talk about relatability. who were these jurors more ability to relate to? the witness came in with a tie on, he answered, seemed very clear and with it. he gave very cle...

Trayvon a little bit less of an angel, little bit more of a tough guy and someone who might really, after even if zimmerman initially was the aggressor, turn on him and get the upper hand. so its a fluid situation, but i think those two were the key witnesses. >> this is a case study in the difference between witnesses. look at the witness yesterday and today. they are nothing look. when you talk about credibility, you talk about relatability. who were these jurors more ability to relate to? the...