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i m joined by ambassador mark ginsberg. always good to see you. by the time tamerlan tsarnaev spent six months in dagestan he had already become radical in his religious views. let s set the scene. would it be fair to call dagestan ground zero? absolutely. i think it s going to be more and more prevalent. let s just assume for the fact here of not putting this gentleman into the equation but understanding. dagestan along with four other repolitics in the north caucasus region have direct ties to al qaeda and terrorist groups that have direct ties to afghani terrorists. this would be the al qaeda in the caucasus branch of al qaeda. we even know that the number two was there in 1997. there are several groups in