dreadful pictures and dreadful numbers. here you can see one train carousel on its side, people desperately trying to help. it s about midnight or so. it is late, it is dark, and it is desperate. some of the numbers we are getting in from afp news agency, 50 dead and 500 hertz. really desperate situation. a number of trains involved. we can take a look at the map now to show exactly where this is happening. this is happening in odesa in india there. just a little earlier, we heard from the chief minister of the area. let s take a listen. , ., ., , ., listen. they have told us that there have been casualties, listen. they have told us that there have been casualties, but - listen. they have told us that there have been casualties, but since - listen. they have told us that there i have been casualties, but since the rescue, we have been casualties, but since the rescue, we have not counted the numbers, rescue, we have not counted the numbers, so i can t offer an accurate
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