efforts to overturn the 2020 election. let s get starts. kristen holmes is live. a lot of secrecy, kristen and this hearing and this witness and what we could learn today. reporter: kate, that s right, we re told in part that secrecy is actually about concerns about hutchinson s access to the testimony. given the proximity to trump s chief of staff mark meadows also proximity to events and sources described hutchinson as always by meadows side. and given the urgency at which the committee brought this hearing it just goes to show you how explosive they believe that this testimony may be. reporter: her testimony had rattled capitol hill. are you aware of any other reporter: once awe top aide to former white house chief of staff mark meadows, cassidy hutchinson is now a key witness in the house january 6 investigation. giving hours of testimony in multiple sessions. mr. gaetz and mr. brooks, i know, both advocated for blanket pardons of all members involved in that
republican congressman. we will wear that any members of congress had [inaudible] mr. gates and mr. brooks mr. gates was the first to ask for a pardon. [inaudible] i m sorry. the only reason i know to ask for a pardon is because you think you have committed a crime. the president is getting very agitated and he said, people tell me i should just get rid of both of you and change the leadership, put jeff clarke in, maybe something will finally get done. i thought that it was [inaudible] how does the president even know mr. clark? i said, so suppose i do the, suppose i replace him, replace with [inaudible] jeff clark. what would you do? i said, mr. president, i would rather resign immediately. stephanie ruhle, all here for our special primetime recap of the fifth day of the january 6th hearings. good evening from msnbc headquarters, i m rachel. i am joined here by my beloved colleagues lawrence o donnell, nicole wallace, joy reid, ari melber. and if that s
adamant that he had one and that we were not doing our job. the president said, just say the election is corrupt and leave the rest to me and well. republican congressman. we will wear that any members of congress had [inaudible] mr. gaetz and mr. brooks mr. gaetz was the first to ask for a pardon. mr. biggs did, mr. gohmert asked as well. i m sorry. the only reason i know to ask for a pardon is because you think you have committed a crime. the president is getting very agitated and he said, people tell me i should just get rid of both of you and change the leadership, put jeff clarke in, maybe something will finally get done. i thought the puzzle was asinine. how does the president even know mr. clark? i said, so suppose i do the, suppose i replace him, replace him, jeff rosen, with him, jeff clark. what would you do? i said, mr. president, i would rather resign immediately. but so baloney said this is a murder suicide pact. tonight rachel maddow, nic
and 51 people dead in the back of the truck in sweltering heat and it happened in the united states of america. let s go outfront. i m erin burnett. outfront tonight, a transformative moment in what was some of the most explosive moment in the january 6th hearing to see date. cassidy hutchinson, former top aide to trump s chief of staff mark meadows laid bare just how much trump wanted the crowd to march to the capitol, knowing they were armed, knowing his rally could turn violent. here she is talking about the warning from top white house aide tony ornato. i remember mr. ornato had talked about intelligence reports, coming in and saying we had intel reports saying there could potentially be violence on the 6th. remember tony mentioning knives, guns, in the form of pistols and rifles. bear spray, body armor, spears and flagpoles. spears were one item, flag poles were one item, tony, then relayed something to the effect of and these effing people fastening spears on to
the missouri center defending himself after being mocked over the now infamous video of him fleeing from the trump mob, and the roundup himself on january 6th. you will not believe his trusted voice for democrats yeah good saturday morning to, you i am katie fang. breaking overnight, former president donald trump attacking the work of the january six committee. and finally responding to those explosive accusations from former white house aide, cassidy hutchinson. speaking at a rally in arizona, trump denied that he tried to grab the steering wheel. of the presidential vehicle and launch of the senate security after he was told that he could not go to the capitol on january six. trump also saying that his opponents up weaponized law enforcement against him. that is amid new fallout from thursday summer finale of the 16 hearings with the committee accusing donald trump of duty for failing to call off the attack on the capitol. for more on, this return to nbc news corresponden