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january 6th select committee hearings, judge luttig called out donald trump and his cronies as a clear and present danger to american democracy. you will recall that when the disgraced twice impeached four times indicted ex-president was pressuring mike pence to help him overturn the 2020 election results, pence in his moment of legal need called judge luttig for advice and in no uncertain terms he told mike pence that legally and constitutionally he could not help trump do what he wan...

particularly right now with democracy under attack. and were giving thanks for some of our most favorite conversations. each of these individuals in their own way is on the front lines of protecting democracy. one of those fortunate voices is legendary conservative legal scholar judge michael ludig. hes a conservatives conservative. he was short listed to be named to the u.s. supreme court. as one of the star witnesses during the january 6th select committee hearings, judge luting call...

released audio of an interview of donald trump by jonathan carl. it shows the ex-president knew full well the power he had over the mob that stormed the capitol. just take a listen. >> but if you look a the real size of that crowd, i was never reported correctly. there were the biggest crowd ive ever spoken in front of by far, really, by far, that went down to the washington -- that went back to the washington mo. >> you told them you were going to g up to the capitol. were you just --...