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And two people, one being the cfo of the trump organization, mr. weisselberg, has immunity. that means the justice department, the justice system is working. for the president to say i need to get involved, he is sending a signal he wants to somehow stop this process. thats an obstruction of justice. >> would pardoning of paul manafort if the president decides that, would that qualify on its own as potential obstruction of justice? >> it depends. well, now were treading into legal waters, but tw...