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now they are keen to get away from that and _ now they are keen to get away from that and say it was a very different time _ that and say it was a very different time what— that and say it was a very different time. what david said earlier, the point _ time. what david said earlier, the point about integrity and what keir was saying tonight, one problem is that rishi _ was saying tonight, one problem is that rishi sunak came in talking about— that rishi sunak came in talking about ...