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Was 1971, they didnt ultimately get to a place of agreement where we had an envoy over there until 1979 it was a long period of time. it was progress all throughout the years. but patience is key here. but the meeting on tuesday, he will know within that minute if its going to work or if its not going to work. >> and to petes point about to be in that conversation, there were discussions about whether trump and kim would meet, just to two of them to take away a little bit of the theatrics becaus...