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make a presidential candidate, could really sort of channel people s anger without coming off as angry himself. chris christie, 2023, can he do it? he s a natural brawler and a great retail politician. he s good with the sound bite and great on a debate stage. he is making no secret of the fact that part of his job is to take out trump on his own terms. i think he s got one thing right. you can t beat trump in the primary without beating trump. you can t go around him. you have to beat him. we are seeing changes here. ron desantis, the florida governor, has started to put the word trump into our thoughts more in his comments on the trail. and mike pence just now. you can t beat him without beating him. steve kornacki that brings us to you. you ve been looking at mike pence, his odds and the historic nature of a former vp running against an old boss. take a look here at where pence starts at. this was the monmouth poll from
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