meadow. we the jury saw, and hopefully the country saw the truth about these people did, and who they are, and what they believe, and how incredibly dangerous it is to our society, to our civil society. this was four weeks of hearing about mein kampf, and hitler, and the at no-scape, and race war. and we persuaded the jury of the truth, which is that these guys planned based on their hateful beliefs, to come and commit violence against racial and religious minorities, and then they celebrated it. leading off our discussion, paul butler at virginia university, he s an msnbc legal analyst, and ruth book senior leader correspondent for slate.com. delia, you ve been covering that charlottesville trial quote sly, what is your reaction to this 25 million dollar verdicts? we i was moved, i think we