racketeering enterprise and its scope for every trial that you do. the prosecutors are not going to want to do that. and defendants are going to want more time. so we're definitely not going to see a huge trial in october. and we may see some separate. it will depend on how many defendants exit the case. i think in pretty quick order here fani willis and her team will start trying to plead out some of these lower level defendants and get them out of the case altogether so that they end up with a group that is manageable for trial. so we may see more than one trial depending on how many are left and depending on whether cheseboro stand with the case of an early trial. we won't see five, six more trials like that. >> i imagine if one of the trials happens earlier, looks like chesboro's will be that one, that defense attorneys for, say, the former president might watch that trial very closely to get a sense exactly of what the da's case is. is that an advantage potentially for -- >> it is an advantage.
it is. >> yeah. >> yes because they have to prove the existence of the enterprise, and they'll have to prove some of the predicate acts to give the scope of the actions that happen. so they'll be on the lookout for all of that, what proof they put forward for that. obviously if chesboro goes alone, they'll focused on what he does as far as which predicate acts they prove up and that sort of thing. but tell still be helpful for all defendants because some of these witnesses that they will use to prove the existence of the enterprise and its overall mission will be the same for all trials. so it's an advantage. >> jennifer rogers, thank you so much. brianna? they say a picture is worth 1,000 words, but this one -- former president trump's campaign is hoping it's worth a whole lot more. how his team is raising money off of this historic mugshot. plus, a dramatic drop in the number of missing people in maui as officials race to identify the lost. also, we're learning the state's main electric utility is
eventually. they make their way to the other side, this was all done using publicly available footage. they walk about halfway up the steps, and we see them together for about over an hour up to maybe an hour and a half. >> it really is interesting to see chesboro there. we've highlighted him with the red hat through that. filming, you know, just there for it. no evidence that he went into the capitol itself? what does he have to say? >> there's no evidence he went into the capitol. no evidence that he was violent. there's no evidence that alex jones of violent or went into the capitol either. it's interesting because people that jones led up the steps actually then did go into the capitol. we reached out personally, didn't hear anything back. his attorney gave us a statement, they declined to comment on this. but they said that they're going to -- mr. chesboro is going to allow the legal process to play out and declines public comment at this time. >> as i said, very interesting
versus hayes election. he's trying to use the law in his favor and basically say we don't think there was actually fraud but if we set up these separate electors for this state election theory, we can present the states with two separate electors, the fraudulent one, which was illegal and the legitimate one. it's complicated, it's trying to fool voters. it's worked successfully for 150 years and he tried to undermine it. >> i'm curious as you hear all of this, what does it say to you about chesboro's legal exposure. there's no mistake that is co-conspirator number five. all of them could be charged. they have participated in this agreement to violate the law. i think he's a really important figure here. you may recall from the january 6th hearings that he joined the
losses, what's next? and so chesebro was helping eastman and donald trump to come up with a plan. one thing would be to say there were fake electors and chesboro says this is probably going to fail at the supreme court level, there are courts that won't allow this. but he's cognizant of not winning legally but politically in the minds of the public. then he talks about things like, but, this could help us to convince people that there was fraud. this could help us to create a scenario in which donald trump is never in the vote count and it always looked like he won. even if you get to the point where the supreme court says this isn't real, this is wrong, at that point in done, what he could have done is undermine the
trying to implicate lawrence tribe in all of this. >> i think tribe is a well-known legal scholar. the idea is if we can train this was a theory advocated by lawrence tribe, the liberals won't know what to do with themselves. but in fact, as professor tribe writes what chesboro was really a bastardization, number one, that it's unconstitutional and the other, that congress can change the law at any time and is not beholden to the laws of prior congresses. that's true but they have to change the law. they can't ignore or flout the law just because they disagree with it. they must use normal legislative process to change the law. it is a sleight of hand to say larry tribe would condone this plan whatsoever. they used him as a stalking horse there just as a form of