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suckering them for decades. today is the birthday of crouching tiger hidden dragon star and bond girl, the great michelle yo, love her. andy warhol would have been 85 today. and the late great elliott smith nominated for an oscar for good will hunting soundtrack would have been 44 today. also, the best comedy tour you never heard of and congressman alan grayson is here. this is "viewpoint"! >> john: good evening, i'm john fuglesang. thank you for joining us on "viewpoint." the u.s. today ordered americans out of yemen sending the international terror alert to high. all nonessential government employees have been evacuated from the u.s. embassy and american citizens are urged to leave now! the british embassy closed up shop, as well. and the evacuation comes just a day after u.s. intelligence officials say they intercepted a new threat. this one from al-qaeda chief ayman al-zawahiri to his deputy ordering him do "do something." that something officials say is a major attack. one involving explosives or possibly a suicide assault. this, of course, follows weeks of what the intelligence community calls a rising tide of chatter, the likes of which they say we haven't seen since 9-11 2001. last week, the white house temporarily closed an unprecedented 19 american embassies and consulates across the middle east and in north africa and sent out a warning for travelers throughout the globe. it is all vaguely reminiscent of the color-coded alerts of the bush era. florida representative alan grayson is a member of the progressive caucus as well as the house committee on foreign affairs and we've been honored to have him as a frequent guest of this program. he joins us this evening from orlando. congressman grayson, welcome back to "viewpoint." >> thanks. thank you very much. >> john: great to have you. this latest threat, sir, appears to be much more specific than the 9-11-like chatter we were warned of last week. we mentioned, sir, your role on the house foreign affairs committee. have you been briefed at all on this new intercept? >> well, you know, listen, i get classified information. i'm not supposed to convey it to other people but i will tell you that actions have consequences. we've been running a drone war in yemen, in afghanistan, in pakistan and other locations for years and basically the other side wants to strike back. >> john: what has been surprising is some of the president's most rabid critics have rallied around his lockdown of almost two dozen diplomatic posts not just in yemen but also egypt, libya, saudi arabia and other u.s. allied states. is that warranted, sir or is d.c. bending over backwards, call it a collective cya move to repeat the attacks that we saw in benghazi last september? >> well, we'll see. i am skeptical. i think that there may or may not be an attack. i do think that the intelligence community in particular has been beaten up pretty badly and understandably in the media in the past several weeks. they're looking for some way perhaps to distract people, perhaps to recoup some element of their reputation in which they've lost and it has been damaged because of all of the domestic spying that's been taking place. >> john: this is evocative of the bush era color-coded terror alert is. should we expect to see in five weeks similar alerts? >> it is evocative of wag the dog but as i said, there may or may not be an attack. we'll have to wait and see. >> john: i agree with you. what do you mean when you say it is evocative of wag the dog? >> the intelligence community wants to change the fact away from the fact they've been spying on every american who has a telephone. every time you call anyone, every time i call anyone, the nsa gets information about that call. there has been extension reporting about e-mails, about log on and off your computer, about google searches and all in the name of protecting us from foreign attacks. i'm glad the nsa does its job well with regard to determining or avoiding or defeating foreign attacks. that does not in any way justify the pervasive spying on americans that's been reported on now for the last two months. >> john: is it going to work, congressman? do you think it will put public fears on american citizens to rest because this will give us the illusion or at least the impression that our government is doing this purely to protect americans? >> listen, americans are relatively intelligent people and i don't think you can fool them to that degree. no one could possibly believe that the nsa should get a report if every time they called their pizzeria and asked for a pepperoni deep dish pizza and somehow that's meant to protect them from al-qaeda. that doesn't make any sense at all. that's the system we live under right now thanks to this pervasive violation of the fourth amendment and the u.s. constitution. and that has to end. >> john: let me turn to signs of a different kind of unrest here at home. thousands of fast food workers, as you know, walked off the job this past week in protest over the federal minimum wage. they want it to double from $7.25 to $15 an-mile-per-hour. congressman, what do you think the minimum wage should be raised to? >> we've introduced legislation to bring it up to $10.50 an hour, which would put it back in terms of where it was in terms of purchasing power back in '68, we call that the catching up to 1968 afnlgt if you look around the world, it is pathetic to see how far our labor stand has fallen behind other countries. i want america to be number one, not number one in foreign countries occupied or number one in number of people incarcerated. i want america to be number one in wages. i want america to be number one in benefits. i want america to be number one in healthcare. in australia, they have a $16 an hour minimum wage. in germany, people routinely, as a matter of law get up to six weeks off each year and they get 44 days of paid sick leave. germany is not impoverished by that. they're strengthened. we need to make the same sort of steps here in america to improve the working conditions of the people who work. >> john: i think germany providing their version of medicare for everyone who makes under $100,000 has something to do with that of course. >> germany has had universal healthcare for a century. we're still arguing about it here in the united states. >> john: 100 years after teddy roosevelt ran for it on the progressive ticket. >> that's right. >> john: pushback is the only thing we're getting from our republican friends in congress. i'll tell our viewers, the 447 house votes, 406 them, roughly 10% were g.o.p. attempts to defund obamacare. i would call that theatre except i live near broadway, theatre creates jobs. of course, obamacare is not the g.o.p.'s only obsession. they voted 12 times to defund the embattled group acorn even though it doesn't exist anymore. this is like spitting in the wind over and over again. why bother? what do these guys say to you? i know they're friends. do you shake them and say what are you doing here? >> it is worse than spitting in the wind. if you spit in the wind, you don't hit anybody. they're spitting on poor people and sick people and needy people. they're bent on making sure that people who are sick cannot see a doctor and get the care they need to stay healthy or to stay alive. that is their cause. that is what they're dedicated to this year. they say that they're willing to actually bring down the u.s. government. much like an anarchist would, much like a terrorist would want to, for the sake of preventing americans from seeing a doctor when they're sick. that's so twisted, i can't begin to describe it. >> john: can they be reasoned with? i have to believe the republicans aren't all malice-based. some must realize how much this is hurting the very people they're sworn to protect. >> no, in fact, they're drenched in their own mish goss. they hear the same lies and it is a giant echo chamber that has nothing to do with planet earth any longer. they believe obamacare will increase the deficit when it decreases the deficit. they believe obamacare will take away people's insurance when it doesn't take away people's insurance. they believe it is a government takeover, single payer system. it is not a single payer system. my god, we would have to make this interview two hours at least if i was going to recount all of the lies stuck inside their skulls. >> john: we cover them relentlessly here, alan. i don't want to call them stupid. i call them embissell americans. before i go, i want to ask what have your constituents been saying to you? you're home in florida. what are people there concerned about? >> well, they want healthcare. i'll tell you that. florida has the third highest rate of uninsured people in the country. 20% overall. it is 40% for latinos. in my district, it is 400% latino. we have people in central florida who are desperate to get care. people are dying of cancer. people who have terrible diseases and the governor has shut all of the free healthcare clinics in this entire state for the sake of his business being expanded and on and on it goes to people want healthcare, education thor their children because they understand it is the only way their children's lives will be better than theirs. they want jobs, jobs, jobs. we have focused and made great effort to bring in every federal dollar that we could into this district in order to be able to promote the economy and get some kind of recovery going in an area where 80% of the families who own houses have a mortgage worth more than the value of their house. they're underwater and they feel like they're drowning. >> john: it's insane. i want to thank congressman alan grayson for joining us on "viewpoint." thank you for coming here and thank you for your service to the american people. >> thank you for a wonderful show that's elevated this course about politics to an amazing degree and thank you for your service. >> john: it is an honor to have you say that. we'll see you soon. for the rest of you, stick around. that lovefest is over but hillary's fears are reaching critical mass and the lady ain't even running yet. turkey and make it fast". >> (laughter). >> she gets the comedians laughing. >> that's the best! >> that's hilarious. >> ... and the thinkers thinking. >> okay, so there is wiggle room in the ten commandments is what you're telling me. >> she's joy behar. >> ya, i consider you jew-talian. >> okay, whatever you want. >> who plays kafka? >> who saw kafka? >> who ever saw kafka? >> (laughter). >> asking the tough questions. >> chris brown, i mean you wouldn't let one of your daughters go out with him. >> absolutely not. >> you would rather deal with ahmadinejad then me? >> absolutely! >> (singing) >> i take lipitor, thats it. >> are you improving your lips? >> (laughter). >> when she's talking, you never know where the conversation is going to go. >> it looks like anthony wiener is throwing his hat in the ring. >> his what in the ring? >> his hat. >> always outspoken, joy behar. >> and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? >> only on current tv. cenk off air alright in 15 minutes we're going to do the young turks! i think the number 1 thing than viewers like about the young turks is that were honest. they know that i'm not bsing them for some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know i'm going to be the first one to call them out. cenk on air>> what's unacceptable is how washington continues to screw the middle class over. cenk off air i don't want the middle class taking the brunt of the spending cuts and all the different programs that wind up hurting the middle class. cenk on air you got to go to the local level, the state level and we have to fight hard to make sure they can't buy our politics anymore. cenk off air and they can question if i'm right about that. but i think the audience gets that, i actually mean it. cenk on air 3 trillion dollars in spending cuts! narrator uniquely progressive and always topical, the worlds largest online news show is on current tv. cenk off air and i think the audience gets, "this guys to best of his abilities is trying to look out for us." only on current tv! >> john: welcome back to "viewpoint." the republican party is getting a little touchy. g.o.p. chairman reince priebus says nbc and cnn will not get to host any republican debates in 2016 if they don't pull their planned films on the most famous woman in the world, hillary clinton. in a le to each network, priebus wrote the coverage would be unfair to her democratic and republican rivals. priebus won't stand for nbc's planned four-part mini series starring diane lane and cnn's documentary on clinton. he said... cnn said... nbc news wrote... like i said, bitch, please. let's bring in our esteemed panel on this. rick ungar is a democratic strategist and contributor to forbes.com. karen hunter is the pulitzer prize winning journalist and now runs karen hunting publishing and teaches journalism at hunter college and dean obeidallah is a political comedian and writer. his documentary opens next month across america whether you like it or not. welcome back to "viewpoint," everyone. this is a great story. because remember when the republicans were so upset over that ronald reagan mini series. most movie critics don't know what they're talking about. so reince priebus should feel right at home, am i right, rick ungar? >> i think hillary is slipping reince priebus a few bucks. no one wants to see their life story before an election. he, as usual, he didn't plan this well. if you're going to complain about this, wait until the movie's made, wait until you see how it comes out -- >> john: and then play victim. >> precisely! it is so stupid. >> john: karen, i know it will be a long time before we see that big budget rick perry mini series put out by the networks but is there any part of you that feel reince priebus' pain? >> no. what he threatened is we're not going to get to see the republican debate. i'm thinking that was a favor, right? we'll have better ratings than republican debate. so i don't know that that threat was really even strong enough. >> john: dean, i haven't seen something like this. i haven't seen a p.r. stunt backfire like this since jim carrey made everyone want to see "kick ass2". what's going on? >> i think he's being fair. he have until august 14th to pull the movie. >> john: it hasn't been made yet. >> rick is a former lawyer. that's the worst type of censorship. they want to restrain something before they've seen it. they've been apprehensive about anyone doing it. the movies have made hillary clinton a household name. she's so well-known. >> i think he knows exactly what he's doing. he wants these movies to be made. >> john: why? >> because no politician running for president wants to see a four-part mini series about how their husband was impeached. >> now, there is going to be all of this pressure on nbc's part to make this as fair as possible. >> john: i think you may be right but the greatest irony is for the 2016 field, hillary clinton is the best we've got. jeff bezos is buying "the washington post" and salon.com for $250 million ending 80 years of ownership by the graham family. i saw bob woodward weeping over this as if he was still a journalist. he transformed the online retail business. can he do the same for print, karen? >> oh, yeah. i'm a little -- i feel some way about it because as a former journalist because i don't know what journalism is anymore, what he did to publishing is like epic. so i'm hopeful that maybe he can bring some new energy to what has devolved into this that we're experiencing now in journalism. but i'm also a little concerned because he has a space plant. he wants to do this amusement park on mars. i don't know how that's going to play in. >> i think he's buying "the washington post" because he needs the paper to wrap the projects in. he's paid $250 million for "washington post." a-rod's contract is $275 million. >> he could have gotten a-rod. >> useless. >> almost no money. $250 million for "the washington post" and the other ancillary plot, unreal. i think that's like 1/69th of his wealth. the globe was purchased. they'll face -- huff poe only gets bigger. will there be any impact on the public? >> it remains to be seen. the public never really cares who owns it. any new blood in the newspaper business is probably a good thing as long as it's not koch blood. >> john: will this kill the fire wall? i mean the pay wall. will this make people not pay? >> i don't know why it would matter. >> you look at the amazon model. they're not making their money off the sale of books. they're making the money off of ancillary properties. that's figured out how to make that into a viable entity. why wouldn't he bring the same model to newspapers. why shouldn't we pay for newspapers. >> john: to bring it to a more national audience. >> you can probably return it to "the washington post." >> not working. >> john: jeff bezos personal venture sends people into space. as the koch brothers try to buy tribune papers -- >> i'll write a check this moment. >> john: it will be interesting. it seems like this guy gave us the kindle. he arguably saved or transformed book reading. so what is reading a newspaper going to look like ten years from now? will there even be papers anymore? score one for the trees? >> i don't know why we need it now frankly. >> john: is it nostalgic? >> i talk to people who read regular papers. why? i can read five newspapers every morning in the time it takes you to go through one newspaper. >> here's the problem. on a fundamental level, what we have kind of stripped away is this notion of having real investigative journalists, gristled veterans on the newsroom. when i came into the daily news in the late '80s, there were people who had been there for do, 30 years. today, the editors are in their 30s. everything is about turning the quick dollar. i don't know. i think he said he's going to keep the sanctity of what "the washington post" is. >> john: i would like to see it happen. i want to shift gears a bit because the u.s. has closed 19 embassies and consulates throughout africa because of terrorist chatter. rick, do you think the country's gotten cynical after we were on orange alert or yellow alert during the bush years? >> it has been quite a few years since we experienced that. there was a period of time where every week, somebody was telling us we're an orange color. i haven't heard that in ages. i think people are paying attention to what's happening right now. >> john: you can think about are they trying to prevent another benghazi attack. dean, i want to put this to you, hey, look over here, squirrel, squirrel, squirrel, forget about the nsa spying. >> i think it's ridiculous they're going to close embassies for a week. what? we can't blow it up. they're closed! it is laughable. they're closed for a week and the al-qaeda guys have no resolve. >> john: how much is that going to stave something off? >> when you hear senator chandler say the nsa program is the thing that gave us information. we need to do this. you understand this connection of this is a political attempt to get us the support of the nsa program. no one has problem with the nsa spying on foreigners. >> no one has said this has anything to do with the program we're concerned about which is spying on americans. i don't think it was that at all. i think there is a legitimate threat out there. they're responding the best way they can. >> i agree there might be a legitimate response and it might have to do with what happened in benghazi and overreaction or appropriate reaction. when you said we're no longer the orange threats. they're just now doing things in boston. we don't even get warnings now. that's the point. at the end of the day, we have all of these levels but the reality is if someone wants to do something, they'll do it. >> john: al-qaeda never does the same kind of attack twice. they'll ram a boat -- they'll have the plane, the underwear bomber guy, the trains in spain. they don't do the same thing twice. dean, you have a film about pre-con received notions. >> sure. >> john: post-9-11, you decided this make this film. what's your personal reaction as a muslim, every time -- >> he's a muslim? >> john: yeah. are you white enough that it's not an inconvenience to you? >> i think so. >> i don't have a problem. i'm a tourist in the conflict. i don't inject myself into it. most people don't know i'm muslim. people say horrible things to me face about muslims or about arabs. it is a struggle. when you see the misinformation by the so-called security experts saying it is near the end of ramadan and that's what muslims do. but muslim after muslim journalist have been writing where has there been any instance of the end of ramadan terrorist attacks? >> the cole attack was on the attempt on the ship was after the day of power. >> this is a new thing that the guys in the west have made up. there's no day of power. today is peace. day of praying. it has become this talking point from not even people on the right. security experts. peter bergen, other people going the day of power. >> john: in fairness, the fundamentalist extreme right wing muslims who think violence is okay if we do did so they don't care about this piece. >> the truth is it can be used as a rallying cry by extremist cleric. they call it a day of power. but ramadan, it is in two days now. the big celebration. >> kind of strangely hebrew. >> john: there you have it. from a muslim, a christian and a jiewrks i want to thank my guests, rick ungar, dean obeidallah and karen hunter. thanks for making my job so much fun. rick perry suffers from a severe case of foot in mouth disease. there ain't no cure. >> john: oklahoma to "viewpoint." in today's edition of so that happened, the gift that keeps on giving, rick perry is back. i'm not going to make a bunch of tired rick perry jokes because it distorts political discourse and i forget the other thing. here's the clip. >> there are many other states that embrace those conservative values, the approach that we've taken over the years. i'm in one today in florida. you look at south carolina, you look at florida. i'm in one of those states that reflect those today. in louisiana. i got that. >> john: it's not easy to lose an entire crowd of people who vote for bobby jindal. can we, can we please have a serious discussion in this country about a very important issue and that is rick perry control. how many more public tragedies do the american people have to witness. every time rick perry shoots his mouth off, this man is killing the g.o.p.'s chances offerer getting back into power. it used to be don't mess with texas. now i think it is okay to mock it all during recess. it is not like the governor is going to remember who did it, right? coming on to me all the time now. (vo) she gets the comedians laughing and the thinkers thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. you would rather deal with ahmadinejad than me. >>absolutely. >> and so would mitt romney. (vo) she's joy behar. >>and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? >> john: alex rodriguez is still allowed to suit up for the yanks as he repeals his 211 game suspension. mlb says he violated the basic agreement. a-rod is of course accused of using performance-enhancing drugs oz peds and trying to obstruct the investigation of the biogenesis firm where he supposedly got them. at a pregame press conference, he told us how hard his life is. his incredibly comfortable drefnled in wealth difficult life but he did not deny using peds. >> for the last seven months, has been a nightmare. >> like i said, i think we'll have a chance to discuss all of that and we'll talk about it then. >> john: once he got up to bat, the fans this chicago let him know their verdict. >> alex rodriguez. [crowd booing] >> john: our next guest says though we may be missing part of the story. very important part. dave zirin joins us from d.c., the sports editor for "the nation," he's also the author of "game over" has politics has turned the sports world upside down. mr. zirin, welcome back. >> great to be here, john. >> john: thank you so much. you've said there is a real hypocrisy surrounding baseball. can you explain that for us? >> where shall we begin because there are hypocrisies on top of hypocrisies wrapped in a little ribbon that says the word hypocrisy written on the ribbon. let's start with who got pinched the other day in this investigation. after alex rodriguez, all the players came out of the dominican baseball pipeline. now, what does that mean? they were trained. they were assigned as teenagers as young as 15, some scouted before their 10th birthday, signed for $2,000 to go to one of the baseball academies in the dominican republic. why does this matter? in the dominican public, steroids are legal. steroids are used in great quantities in the baseball academies. baseball has made no public statements ever about cleaning up steroids and performance-enhancing drugs in the dominican republic. they're used to train players in the dominican republic then when they come to our shores, they become exams that baseball flattulates of everything wrong with the game. baseball wants to have its anabolic cake and eat it, too. >> john: rodriguez is someone who lived in the dominican republic before moving to miami. it was not like he was plucked from a third world country. there are plenty of players who are. >> alex rodriguez is an exceptional player, someone branded as a sure fire hall-of-famer by one scout. this isn't an alex rodriguez story. if anything, he's the big sparkler that's over here to distract us from what's happening over here. and that's the fact that you don't have major league baseball at this point without the dominican republic and their academies. one out of every three come from the dominican republic. for people watching who don't know, the dominican has a population less than that of new york city. yet it supplies one out of every three minor league baseball players. 27% of major league players are from latin america and all players from latin america eventually tend to make their way through the dominican pipeline. so, to me, this is just another chapter in how major league baseball has always done business. this is a league whose ownership profited to the tune of billions of dollars throughout the 1990s on the home run race and the steroid boom and yet no owner was ever called in front of congress to speak out and defend their practices. it is just another process where it doesn't go nearly far enough up the chain of demand for my taste. >> john: i completely agree. in the late '90s, steroids saved baseball. of course, a-rod, as we know is no choirboy. and you've said -- you called him an insecure mean girl. we know he's lied before about the ped use. there is a mountain of evidence against him, dave. yet you say all of this means the player's association should fight harder for him, precisely for that reason. why is that? >> alex rodriguez is loathsome. i live in takoma park, maryland, roughly a ten minute drive from my house is one of the most dilapidated not up to code housing projects in all of prince george's county, maryland. people live in squalor, no ventilation, mold everywhere. i've taken tours of the place. why am i talking about this? it is owned by ol ex rodriguez. >> john: you're kidding. >> neptune ventures, his real estate company. he owns this housing project. this has been a scandal in the local press here. not alex rodriguez but the conditions in which people live. on top of that, alex rodriguez is somebody who has given literally thousands upon thousands of dollars to anti-union political candidates and yet now the union and i know the head of the union, michael wiener is holding his nose having to do this. they need to defend alex rodriguez precisely because he's so loathsome. they have to defend him. because he is the very definition of low-hanging fruit. this is about whether or not the union is going to have an appeals process, if they're going to have a seat at the table going forward and if they're going to be able to defend their players against the interest of owners and to be clear, the interest of owners are less about performance-enhancing drugs and more about their ability to void these contracts and that's the part of this that so maddening is if alex rodriguez, i find loathsome, if he gets suspended, that's $34 million that goes directly into the pockets of the owners of the yankees. they don't penalized. >> john: it is shocking to think of unions supporting corrupt players because we all know washington, d.c. and congress would never support corrupt ceos. johnny is the reigning heisman trophy winner. he's in hot water for accepting payment for an autograph signing session. they refuse to let students make money from their play in college. do we see a thought shift in thought with someone like him or are they going to lower the boom? >> they'll lower the boom on johnny for the same reason mlb lowered the boom on alex rodriguez. neither of them have a constituency. there is no fan base clamoring for alex rodriguez and there is no fan base clamoring for johnny man zeal. they had a head editorial titled johnny be gone. they're tired of him and his behavior. he's incredibly entitled and spoiled. tom wolfe would not have the stones to create somebody like johnny from wealthy texas oil money and he's the heisman trophy winning quarterback for a team in texas. this show is about analyzing, criticizing, and holding policy to the fire. are you encouraged by what you heard the president say the other night? is this personal, or is it political? a lot of my work happens by doing the things that i'm given to doing anyway, by staying in touch with everything that is going on politically and putting my own nuance on it. in reality it's not like they actually care. this is purely about political grandstanding. i've worn lots of hats, but i've always kept this going. i've been doing politics now for a dozen years. (vo) he's been called the epic politics man. he's michael shure and his arena is the war room. >> these republicans in congress that think the world ends at the atlantic ocean border and pacific ocean border. the bloggers and the people that are sort of compiling the best of the day. i do a lot of looking at those people as well. not only does senator rubio just care about rich people, but somehow he thinks raising the minimum wage is a bad idea for the middle class. but we do care about them right? >> john: they make people laugh all races, religions, all walks of life. laughter is universal. that was the point of the film the coexist comedy tour which documents this very unlikely and revolutionary line-up. but then something happened in post-production. their christian comedian bailed and the film morphed from being a concert film to a narrative documentary on the search for a christian comedian to represent. >> shot the whole thing. it was in the can and now he calls and says he doesn't want to be in it. >> his agent said no. i don't know exactly what happened. >> we heard he was up for a tv show. >> i knew he had something big going on when he said no. >> we heard he was up for a tv show. >> why that would make him say no, i have no idea. since then, he's been on letterman. >> now, we don't even have a film. >> you can't have a coexist comedy tour without a christian. so what are we supposed to do? we decided we would hold auditions. >> we'll audition for new christian comic. >> get a replacement christian. >> john: a replacement christian. i think they sell those at home depot. you'll never guess who they found. joining me now is the director of this very smart and funny film, the coexist comedy tour, winner of best documentary at vision fest in new york and soon available for download on itunes and amazon as of august 13th, its director larry brant and the it'sist and founder of the tour who can be seen at the punch line in sacramento august 28-31. he has a great album out entitled elf orgy. he's one of the funniest guys of any nonreligion. welcome, gentlemen. it is great to be with you. as your token christian catholic infidel. thank you. >> thanks for having us john. >> larry, as a director who's mainly done narrative films in the past and independent cinema, what made want to do a film on this benetton rainbow of faith comedy tour? >> well, you know, it was nice to do something where the body count was zero at the end of the picture. i think there were a couple of points where the producers might have wanted to up it by one with my getting -- starting the first place which appeared to be a disaster. but i live in new york part of the year. i think every new yorker is constantly reminded about what intolerance -- religious intolerance can do. it seemed that the themes were so important, this is not a touchy touchy-feely film. anyone who's seen keith or mosha understand they're pretty rough on each other. and the idea that people can be rough on each other and they can talk about their differences but do it peacefully and actually in a humorous fashion was very appealing to me. as a narrative filmmaker, the idea of doing a comedy documentary was appealing. >> john: i have to say, i've seen the film twice now with full audiences in theatres and while it is about religious coexisting and unity. it is not a movie you bring grandma to it. is pretty filthy and rough and it brings the house down. keith, you're an atheist. what made you want to hang with a bunch of believers and do a tour like this? >> i have a bunch of believes in my family and friend groups. we've always given each other a lot of grief, in fun. mostly in fun. and so we had a week together at a comedy club. supan being the hindu. we started realizing we were cracking each other up more backstage make fun of each other's religions than we were on stage. so we thought we might have something here. so we went searching to see if we could find a funny jewish person which i know is a stretch. we were willing to take on the challenge. then we ended up with a funny female muslim comedian. that's when we knew we had something special. >> john: i think it's terrific. it is like the traveling wilburries of infidels. michael moore has become a real champion of this film. he screen and it at his comedy arts festival in michigan earlier this year. but at one point, of course, larry, your christian comic bailed. you had to find a replacement christian. how hard a blow was that at the time and what was the journey to find a christian comic? >> well, you know, it's funny, you mention michael. he took me aside after screening the picture. he said a lot of filmmakers would have given up after this disaster. did never occurred to me. why would anyone give up? as soon as keith told me the bad news, i had two simultaneous feelings, one is this is really screwed up and the other, this could make a really cool movie. it just -- narrative and a plot point had just entered our film. and so i spoke to rebecca reynolds, jim carpenter, our producers. we have to find another funny christian. we set up a series of auditions. but it never occurred to me that did wouldn't work. i thought you know, there's something about turning the camera on that changed everything. i mean the irony of the film is the whole purpose of the film was to demonstrate how the religious could coexist and by the process of turning on the camera, i think that was an instigating event. we just demonstrated that, in fact, they can't coexist. so it added kind of a meta level to the picture that i think was interesting because now it became a movie about a story as well as simply a concert film. >> john: it really is two in one d is quite innovative. the fact it was on accident is why is so brilliant. keith, you represent the atheist wing of this tour. >> knock, knock. the atheist. i'm sorry, never mind. i forgot we don't actually knock on your door. interrupt you when you're doing other things. all the door knocking -- they say they're bringing the good news. we would deliver. atheism, sleep in! >> john: it is a funny bit, keith. i play a lot of atheist events. in film, you're playing as an atheist comedian. do you ever get a less than welcoming reception? >> no, i've actually been pretty lucky. sometimes i'm disappointed in that. i have friends who have been attacked on stage, chased off, it is a little insulting no one has. i guess i'm not pushing hard enough. i've had nice reactions. i've been performing out in the sticks in the south which is what i call any place, anywhere in the country that's 15 minutes outside of a metropolitan area and i've had people come up to me after shows and say are you really an atheist like they've never met one before. you want to take a picture with me? show it to the relatives? but mostly, i hope that i'm bridge building, you know. and saying true, i'm an atheist and you're a christian but neither of us like mormons so we can bond on that. >> john: larry, i have to say, i'm honored to be a part of your film. i, of course, wound up being the christian you use in the end of the film. i don't know if the pope would still consider me catholic. what was interested in working for you on this movie, full disclosure, you decided to shoot this on the eve of the ten-year anniversary of 9-11. your film ends with the ten-year anniversary of 9-11. how important was it for you as a filmmaker to have that concept of religious unity invoke this horrible act of religious violence? >> well, the difficulty is bringing that in without making it maudlin or preachy. and i think that the way you do that is of course to the humor of the comedians. it was really kind of a coincidence that your show was that weekend. and i almost had forgotten about it. as i was heading downtown to see you, i saw this amazing scene of these cars being pulled over. it was a checkpoint because of the anniversary, there had been a bunch of terrorist threats. so i said i've gotta -- i happened to have my camera with me and i captured that and stuck it in the film. what i found as a filmmaker in narrative as well as documentaries, documentaries, especially, because so much of it is -- it is just the luck of the moment. you have to take advantage of happy accidents. you have to turn, in this case, what was a disaster into an asset which was losing the christian and you have to constantly beware of your surroundings and the fact that we ended on this tenth anniversary of 9-11 was just a really kind of touching, evocative point but it was just -- you know, if there is a god of film making, i believe in him. because it certainly does seem often the case that something is presented to you in a way that you could not have scripted or expected. >> john: you give a lot of good film making advice and life advice. it is wonderful to you have both. i appreciate the opportunity to rail against the religious right while bringing all faiths together through humor. thank you both. don't take my word for did that the film is funny. please check it out. you can download it on itunes as of next week. thank you, larry brand and keith lowell anderson. coming up next for the ladies in our audience, why the men of the republican party are so obsessed with your collective uteri. we have a big, big hour and the iq will go way up. 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>> only on current tv. >> john: we're almost done here so an open letter to our anti-abortion pro-life republican friends. dear anti-abortion pro-life republican friends, let me begin by saying i'm not a huge fan of the term pro-life because only in america can you be pro-death penalty, pro-preemptive war against countries that haven't attacked us, way easy access to guns, pro drone bombs and land mines and still call yourself pro-life but i'm not a huge fan of the term pro-choice. i'll try to call you guys anti-roweroe v. wade. here's the thing. i know you guys have supported the republican party because they've been telling you for decades that if you vote g.o.p. and send them your money, they'll end abortion rights and in 2013, my friends, i'm afraid you've been suckered yet again. this year, we've seen a wave of anti-abortion rights bills passed in texas, wisconsin. they're the same exact law because they're written by the same ultra conservative group alec. whether the bills hold up in court, doesn't much matter to republicans. this year's model included closing most women's health clinics unless they have hospital grade facilities. that won't stand because other clinics aren't required to do that. these bills also feature mandatory ultrasounds so women have to see a sonogram but if the fetus is not sufficiently visible, women must be coerced by law into mandatory nonconsensual penetration via transvaginal ultrasounds before they terminate their pregnancy. wisconsin governor scott walker really wants to be president but he knows the law stinks like rush limbaugh's harsher. he signed did on july 5th in the middle of a four-day weekend to guarantee as little national press as possible and a judge has already blocked it. but they'll go on passing these laws and boast about it to y'all because they want your votes and they want your money. so here's the ugly reality, my pro-life friends, the g.o.p. at least on the national level, is not serious about banning abortion. it is the biggest fund raising tool they've got. they're going to keep talking a really good game to you and decade after decade, nothing's going to change. you think i'm lying? here are a few facts fox news hasn't essential inned. ronald reagan signed the therapeutic abortion act into law then felt bad about it. george w. bush was proudly pro-choice until the day reagan asked him to be his running mate at which time he became devoutly pro-life overnight. george w. bush mostly side stepped the issue and nominated many pro rowe judges to the bench and the abortion rate went up every year w was in the white house, went down every year clinton was in the white house. mitt romney was once more pro-choice than kennedy but y'all voted for him. they keep trying to stack the supreme court of course but that still wouldn't end abortion. it would just send it to the states. you might might not want to vote for the right to life party. as well as politicians have mistresses, abortion will always be legal. as far as the bible, jesus never mentions abortion though he's clearly against the death penalty and at no point does god prohibition abortion. god gives instruction on how to terminate an unfaithful wife's pregnancy but that's only if you believe what's actually in the bible. you see, my friends, three sides to every story, yours, mine and the cold, hard truth. the truth is abortion has always been around and will always be around and if you ever do succeed in repealing roe v. wade, abortion will still be here just unsafe, illegal and unregulated. if you get your way, it is thousands of new dr. kermit gosnells. politicians know this and they skillfully divide us so we don't come together on how the two party system sold out the middle class. if we could find a way to prevent more unwanted pregnancies on a national level, you would see the abortion rate fall and this argument will only slow down when the pro-choicers and pro-lifers come together and agree on o one fact. america doesn't have an abortion problem. it has an unwanted pregnancy problem and an abortion symptom. that's our show for tonight. this is "viewpoint." this is current. we're still here. good night, mom. >> joy: there is a new book. to discuss this and other sex relationship stories is the author of what do women want, daniel burg na. also relationship expert siggy slicker and chuck nice is here to add a little love to the conversation. so okay, let's start with this one point that women, you suggest in the book that women are not monogamous. it is a m
MiamiFloridaUnited-statesNew-yorkLouisianaAustraliaGermanyTexasAfghanistanDominican-republicTurkeyBostonchristian catholic. church occupied the city center. president in his response was. told this is not the kind of freedom that we learn. how did we become a gateway to islamist terror. exclusive from a destroyed city. in the us starts october 24th on w. hello and a warm welcome to focus on europe i'm laura babylonia it's nice to have you with us the debate around gregg's it is dividing britons as the rhetoric between supporters and opponents escalates and queues on both sides are accused of sowing division was
in santa tory speech the debates in the house of commons are becoming increasingly heated and the quality of discourse has eroded. i the motions are running high in the palace of westminster. well the hostility and intolerance has become palpable on the streets since the referendum accusations of treason and death threats have become a daily reality for british politicians and close in london are bombarded with abuse online and they're calling for more protection from authority. i don't want to hear. there's a crowd outside the palace of westminster every day made up of both angry leavers and remain as the police often have to intervene m.p.'s arriving for work face verbal abuse and sometimes even physical attack. nigel for raj
a leader of the bracks it party had a milkshake thrown at him earlier this year a relatively harmless incident compared to what other politicians have experienced . i have threats of violence including a death threat i've certainly had threats on social media and in other ways not a civil death threats or prosecutions by the police so i sat in a meeting recently with some other breaks in here senior colleagues and somebody said look around so does anyone not a death threat and the answer was we've all had death threats. including tom brake . the liberal democrat is a staunch opponent of bracks it one facebook page contained comments suggesting he should be strangled. it varies from low level abuse to death threats i suspect probably every other member of parliament in the house of commons has had death threats and there's no doubt that these things have got worse since the
referendum mediately all for the referendum there was a very clear increase. and these m.p.'s have little personal security they hold surgeries in their constituencies anyone can meet the politicians face to face. tom brakes offices are only locked at night. one of the important roles that a british member of parliament has is being accessible to the public and providing a service people come to a member of parliament about any issue from a difficulty securing a school place for their child through to poor quality housing and if we're not accessible then when are actually able to provide a very good service for people. that leaves them very exposed 3 years ago labor m.p. joe cox was murdered on the way to a constituency surgery her attacker has links to a neo nazi group. members of the opposition also blame the prime
minister they say his talk of capitulation and surrender is fueling hatred is hearing from the everybody on these nice sometimes to death right and if you think that i tell the prime minister that i didn't quite see this months i never try and try how i brought them to meet with multi rate how long we have to come from the time just don't yes. but pm boris johnson merely dismisses threats of violence against him pieces humbug the speaker i. have to say to just be cried never heard such humbug in all my life. these are the sorts of the rights that m.p.'s receive every day usually via facebook or twitter there are references to hangings and firing squads civil war and gunning for blood there's no
way of knowing if some of these users might perpetuate violence in the real world. scottish m.p. lisa cameron has been sent images of rapes and decapitations she's lobbying for new legislation that would put an end to online anonymity. the police would say to me were you know we went to see the person in the lead you know quite a usual life their. spirit sacha but it's almost like a suicide is the one lying they feel anonymous they feel that there are no barriers to anything that they have to intensify of a q so on line we need to have thought regulation tom break believes that the political culture also needs to change. the way back is for i mean i think in the u.k. to resolve the issue brett said i think until this is dealt with one way or another than we will continue to see this level of aggression the is this other language news. for now the bricks
a crisis remains ongoing and that makes all m.p.'s potential targets wherever they stand on the political spectrum. tourists behaving badly it's a daily reality for the residents of amsterdam in the netherlands the infamous red light district attracts visitors from across the world and for some the country's liberal attitudes are license for disrespectful behavior all residents are fed up and are demanding change the city is threatening to impose deep fines for rude conduct and is even considering banning sex work from the city center or for women like maria the proposals could be the end to her livelihood. 8 pm in amsterdam doors open for maria she works as a stripper at one of the oldest peep shows in the city but she doesn't know how much longer that will last. i'm saddam doesn't want anything more to do with the
erotic scene in the city center too much sex and too many tourists maria just can't understand it. she thinks it's one of the things that makes amsterdam unique i seem to have more and more people come in and before i remember it was a lot of chinese people and now they go from every part of the war. thousands of tourists one to the red light district streets every night cooking at the women framed in the red light windows. on the $700.00 men and women and nonstop. the quarter was set up centuries ago as a brothel for sailors. now which attracts people from 11 the world's one that has now become the problem. every morning after looks like this
garbage everywhere. the locals a sick of clearing up behind the tourists. one of them is. he's an artist and has lived here for 22 minutes but now he's had enough you have people that have doors here they have to clean every day because people. you have people like over there. a lady who has a sort of you know what i mean and people are going in there ok on the on the. water have sort of dances a little bit you know that people don't see you between the you were. there. more and more residents on taking a stand also shows us. i live here campaign and initiative he and his neighbors created it directly appeals to touristic enough that when they are there the district council pays for the posters but the residents still feel the city has
abandoned them. when i look out of the window here for a 4 o'clock in the morning all of a sudden you see the junkies walking around the people who were stoned or drunk and in the meantime there's no one here from the government no one here from the council there's not a policeman. ask his wife shows us the view from her apartment in the middle of the district. she doesn't think a lot of the city's plans to relocate prostitution to the outskirts. she blames the neighborhoods disastrous decline on the city's false marketing and an influx of cheap shops. if you were you want to call down or get this neighborhood more choirs then also it's very important to do from thing about the enormous quantity of bob's and give way and give room to you know small a local shops who can make a difference because then people could start and see the real neighborhoods which
is here. sallie mae has a shop in the heart of the red light district selling homemade fair trade chocolate . she likes having the prostitutes as neighbors. behind her shop she also runs an art project in the late eighty's she says the tourists should show some respect to the prostitutes and thinks the city's attempts to throw them out is the wrong policy. i often just hope that it's more the behavior of visitors that would change because it would be a shame if not to share would really have to leave just because people cards don't know how to behave. so what's really to blame for all the mess too many tourists or too many prostitutes the city doesn't want to comment on its plans to move the red light district and rejects our request for an interview. call vandyke
isn't surprised. he manages all of the clubs in the district he says the city has tried to cut back on the number before but always in vain. but the offer on with this is there was jail use there's less room now. that the city has shut off a lot of brothel windows through for bruff. and that is new so everything is concentrated on this cannot go where we are sitting in a few side streets and he was not the district used to be bigger so visitors could spread out across the area in all directions. mary is well aware of the dangers of being pushed out onto the streets in the city's periphery. the most important to be protected because you know sometimes in the kind of place that people see that they can do with it what they want so if you go out in the periphery in this protection for as especially for the gears. amsterdam of the city
caught between the proud tradition and moral decline but it still expects to host a wreck or $25000000.00 tourists next year. many villages here in europe are under threat from population young people to seek work elsewhere and the elderly are left behind in spain the rural exit ist has left the country dotted with ghost philip except the village of. a small community during everything they can to keep it alive this slip proof walkway is just one of the many ways life is made easier their 1st year citizens and the community is thriving . it's a busy day for preschool as a shuttle service it's her day at the village day center 15 elderly people need to be brought to their appointments. this is unfair on my team.
he says a stream was long overdue is turning 94 next week so we want to look as best. uncurl lives alone he says he has no trouble managing since he still fit. he would hate to live in a retirement home because that would mean leaving his village and moving to the next city. you're you know that the center is all i need i'm happy here you know i get my meals every day and i get to sleep back there in my room it works. just in case elderly citizens have cell phones equipped with a red button that colds emergency services. i'm just showing how the phone works good that's a relief. yes thank god you were probably thinking i'd fallen or something.
spain has thousands of villages left. around 170 residents live here and 70 percent are over 65 most younger people left the village for the city in search of jobs then some 10 years ago the local council rang the alarm bells it was dying out the population was killing. one. another when i hear you know if a grandfather has to move out of his home his children and grandchildren will stop visiting so it's about more than a single individual it affects the whole village. once the elderly go there's no turning around. instead of waiting for the point of no return the people have per square as a set to work in the village now anyone who has trouble walking can use the blue empty slip parts which help out those with walkers or wheelchairs. they're also 100 miles along house fronts. the
center has room for almost 30 people during the day. it offers an exercise program therapy a laundry service and lunch for just $250.00 euros per month for squares it's helping its elderly and the elderly are helping their village. montana lowness works as a cook in the center originally from her school as a she spent many years in the city working in a restaurant when she heard about a vacancy in the center 3 years ago she returned to reveal which unhappily left behind the anonymity and stress of the restaurant. and i'm not over here it's like we're a family people treat each other differently if they all know one another and a relative of yours is here right at the moment well yes my grandma eat out exactly yeah she's a little confused these days. in the way happy because here she gets treated well adelaide 81 turn alumnus feels better when she's near her grandmother that she
isn't the only one who was able to return to the village because a job opened up at the center and others found a job there immediately so they never had to leave a search for squares or has got younger again. into the village does a lot to ensure that elderly people stay mobile and that they can continue to do things they've always enjoyed doing. i mean your son son goes fishing with their electric scooter the 8 year old loves the tranquility here and wouldn't want to live anywhere else now he actually i was born here and i want to die here. my daughter is in barcelona as are my grandchildren and i'm still here all my needs are met by the day center i'm good my photos and co martine still has 2 cows he grew up farming for him being able to go outside and take care of the
animals every day is very important. they even kissed my head. all right because she doesn't want to right now she thinks i have another treatment thing they're all gone. you know who i have a lot of fun with them. but until still autumn feels lonely this a new era as he calls or died last year and he misses her terribly to me i don't overcommit i mean if you but he still has almost everything else from his younger days and he's always grateful for that. would you this robin you wouldn't well for locals on the island that we are about to visit it's a delicacy they enjoy either grilled or marinated it's her decision that dates back centuries in cyprus that's where millions of migratory birds stop over in autumn as
they make their way south and despite a trapping ban the black market for songbirds there is. some see the traditional dish as part of their culture one they are not willing to part with even though many species are under threat birds get tangled in the nets of ruthless poachers. besides. it's 2 in the morning sergeant michael zaccaria and his colleague curiosity was curious who have received an anonymous tip off. there have been renewed sightings of illegal bird trappers in the british military bases. the police officers set off to a remote field that's known to attract migratory birds the trappers make off at the last minute but leave evidence of their illegal activities behind the net to capture the wild birds you hear that were there any books no no no no no. because it was sitting here on the ground is
a signaling device. and dozens of dead black caps. the sovereign base areas police are shocked. i think it's about time that everyone under 20 stung you cannot be happen we've had enough yes and this is it and by our presence or never location on the poachers the criminal it's nice to know that we're going to be there. the police secure the evidence later they also find the poachers vehicle the next day they hand themselves in they face fines of up to 5000 euros but not all cypriot police forces are determined to clamp down on illegal bird trapping as they are here. an estimated half a 1000000 songbirds are tracked and killed illegally on cyprus every year most of them are migratory birds on their way south. a delicacy.
cypriot conservationists want to put a stop to this illegal killing anti-poaching laws have been tightened under pressure from the e.u. but they're not always been forced in especially you would have the support from the politicians their politicians would come and say we need to talk of these and then filters down to. these and either from the judges when the judges they hire and they hand out very low sentence says he didn't make is then forces on the ground feel powerless because they are there for serious poaching. and then their jobs consing gives 500 unifying but far from stepping up the pressure many politicians appear to be sympathetic to the poachers this m.p. was photographed about to tuck into the local dish. which is made with songbirds.
many cypriots say bird trapping is a local tradition and that the international community should be less concerned with amberleigh pulling out and focus instead on expelling turkish armed forces from the north of the island. everybody would be one of the 3. i ate some woman that. conservationists use hidden cameras to capture footage of illegal bird trappers the poachers are willing to risk being caught because they can earn so much money with the songbirds up to 10 year old per bird on the black market but the activists are determined every morning members of the organization birdlife cypress go out on patrol they need to be vigilant attacks on conservationists by poachers are not uncommon that's why they want to remain anonymous through. they're looking for evidence of trap or activity is rare that they manage to rescue birds they're caught not only with missed nets but also with lime sticks so their
deaths are often agonizing. days the poachers are part of organized criminal networks. with other crimes like prostitution and racketeering and. you know all these drugs and stuff so yeah it can be quite intimidating for local law enforcement but still i don't think enough is being done in the thickly so whenever i see this i get quite upset that the proper bird trappers distance themselves from the bird mafia the newly formed cypress hunters party argues that the only way to tackle illegal poaching is to decriminalize bird hunting on cyprus as a whole the party is hoping to enter parliament in the next election. people there were trying to find other ways to do the d.v.d. most of the time she really got a voice so when done make that it's just a it's been done it's much worse from legal. and this is what people have to
understand in the part of yemen and maybe also people in the you. but conservationists disagree they believe that legalizing hunting would result in the complete disappearance of songbirds on cypress they're planning to carry on their campaign against illegal poaching until the e.u. law on the protection of wild birds is properly enforced now we'll introduce you to a man who once had an extremely dangerous job he used to be a russian fighter pilot and accident left him paralyzed but he still remains a fighter realm in iran and refused to let his disability restrict freedom so he designed a special wheelchair that an able soon to visit his favorite places he is proof that in order to move freely you don't necessarily have to stand on 2 feet. no man iranian has fulfilled his dream of getting close to the sing. off but yes
sure so true freedom is when you want to go somewhere and you just drive off over sand or to a pretty woman. i want to go to the sea and i drove to the sea that's freedom really grates you feel fully human players who shared some joy back to life with an electric wheelchair 15 years ago everything suddenly changed for him from one day to the next the former fighter pilot suffered severe spinal injuries in apparently the accident and was paralyzed from the neck down for 6 months to get only of his eyes and facial muscles after you've noticed how difficult it was to move around in a wheelchair in everyday life he came up with the idea of an off road. 3 more this wheelchair is a 4 wheel drive vehicle portrait of what it's like a ton more early on you might ruin the lot of bits but you can turn around on the
spot they have much to do with it where man built his 1st offer a wheelchair in 2009 just for himself but he quickly realized there was a demand for them a company in kaliningrad now manufactures them its 30 employees including 8 wheelchair users the company offers people with disabilities the prospect of getting a decent and useful job but this for the wheelchairs that the state provides usually don't do the job. there are too many obstacles in cities stairs everywhere curbs. you can't even get into many shops and there's a. roman iranian is living his dream of freedom and wants to make it possible for other wheelchair users in russia to. now he's also pushing for better disabled access in kaliningrad he thinks few obstacles will mean increased mobility for disabled people. thanks for watching focus on europe do get in touch with us
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Christian-catholicQualityDiscourseMotionsSanta-tory-speech-the-debatesHouse-of-commonsPoliticiansDeathThreatsReferendumRealityStreets will have come back from iraq and syria to the united states. we have opened cases all over the place book cussed on this threat and so it is not a new york thing, not a washington thing, something we book cuss on throughout the fbi. >> eric are you surprised by the candidacy that the transparency of the director saying that 49 states that's really an alarming statistic. >> alarming, yes. happy that's being as open. remember, he did a "60 minutes" interview a couple months ago outlined some of the things they were doing and made a lot of people realize how important what they do is. all the -- all the tracking that they are doing all the signer tracking that they are doing, i think it's began tassic. at that time, and i agree now, i still say they need all the money they need, we should continue to give them that fund whatever they want to do it is important to note that some of the areas that are the most vulnerable, our southern border, i don't care what you say, people will say this is a right-wing talking point, it isn't. our southern border is vulnerable, people crossing the border terrorists possibly and also our ports here. new york ports are very, very wide open. so, doesn't surprise me that they have open cases. >> dana? >> well in the page three of the "wall street journal" today, he is there an a article, if you believe that, then i think -- and i think most people would agree about what you said we have to tell congress that we want them to reauthorize the bait tree antibiotic act. the fbi today, the other story page three "wall street journal" is saying that they are very concerned that a portion of the patriot act, which is the 215 letters, which you know about, kimberly, this is controversy that erupted after the questions about surveillance and this is why this is a topic now and why it's becoming a heated one in congress, except for, i hope maybe what comey is doing is trying to be as transparent as possible about the problem so he can say please don't take away one of the tools. all this tool does that they are talking about is, for example, he will say diner, they know somebody used a credit card. and they go to that diner and say, we need the record. the diner is not allowed to tell anybody that they have given the record, you that record allows them to track back to other financial transactions try to connect the dots. if we do not allow the fbi to continue to have that authority, we will have done america a great injustice. >> i agree with you wholeheartedly. greg? >> i mean, comey said that there are, what 49 states, i believe owe obama said at least it is not 57. the high point about that the only issue we are basing, not the western terrorists. the western terrorists are often the most competent ones, the ones that pulled off most of the grillsliest crimes, the western-trained ones are the ones that come from the west but the media government academic complex that focuses on certain kinds of hate which are directed against the chosen agrieved group in america. so, they happily ignore real hate, the kind of hate that results in death. for example islamists hate us they bomb us however, we are told, as americans to mind our pronouns, to watch our language, for fear of creating some sort of islam fwoebphobic atmosphere absurd a fifth column protecting evil under the accusation of islamphobia. anybody who thought that snowden was a hero should be rethinking this right now because he went after the very same brocks that we are using to go after these. >> he made the program obsolete. >> he did. >> some ways, starting from scratch. back here and tried. >> let me get bob. >> i'm sure with this -- if you listen to all that comey said said the thing i'm not worried about as much, they really don't have connections directly to isis. the people in their pace.swho are putting together bombs and doing other stuff and they are very difficult to track. i'm sure he sent out a directive to every one of his 54 offices saying we want you to begin to look for people who might have a problem with this. by the have a problem w and i think very much like what hoover did with germans. he sent a directive out of all half oils fbi offices during world war ii, look at germans who are suspect. good thing to do. i think it is important we try to understand what the experts are telling us about how these western jihadists are recruited. let's say that you're a 17-year-old westerner and you're kind of intrigued and maybe do a little internet search. isis is so sophisticated that they can figure out a way to connect with you and take it offline to their little ecret internet area why bell are frustrated with companies like twitter and their -- i shouldn't say people, there are some people in law enforcement and -- that are dealing with violent extremism that are fwrus straightened with companies that are not willing necessarily to cooperate as much as they would like to try to help us find out these guys are in the basement because it's fine to like, dismiss that you one of them could be successful. >> most dangerous. >> they are harder. >> harder to track. >> don't knock down people who happen to work in basements. >> all right. let's talk about this talk what's happening right now in the world. we have a country of jordan that is rallying around their king that is showing leadership and is decisive and is waging this war against isis. very termed in his focus and strong in his rhetoric. these are some comments from our president of the united states, our commander in chief, at a prayer breakfast today. >> unless we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place, remember that during the crusades, the inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of christ. this is not unique to one group or one religion. there is a tendency in us a sinful tendency that can pervert and distort our faith. >> was that in part of the apology tour on behalf of isis sold out in all states? >> president obama is absolutely right. however, he is talking the 1100s. that's his defense. he had to find an example from 1,000 years ago. a guy was set on fire two days ago and our president says well, you know we did bad things 1,000 years ago. he feeds to leave the white house and go back to a sit-in because that is pru glad school activist lunacy relativistic bs, absolutely embarrassing. meanwhile, we have the real air jordan by thing -- flying sorties, makes him look so small. >> you know, the thing that -- the problem was historically, what he is saying the worst time in the world to say it. >> yes that's what it is. >> the timing of this is unbelievable. >> the other thing take something back here, my friend eric. i notice that jordanians flew over 100 sorties in the first day out and found targets, apparently, i hope targets. so i probably underestimated the number of targets there were for us to hit. >> the next block. so you know sometimes president obama will say something and it kind of percolates a little bit and you wait and all of a sudden, a couple days later, everyone kind of realizes what he said. when he said those comments this morning, the hair on the back of my neck stood up because i know this is one that's gonna go down, that's gonna follow him throughout the rest of his presidency and throughout his legacy because he didn't just go over the line, he pole vaulted over the line on that he went back, as greg points out, 1200 -- 1100 years whatever it is, and used an example of christians and in the same breath said -- kind of explained why we need to at least consider what the butlism terrorists are doing, killing people, pea heading people pumping people alive. to mention those in the same statement reminds me of when that nbc analyst, remember chris kyle, this whole issue and he said something like well some would say chris kyle was probably racist. >> and on killing spree. >> went on killing sbrees. just by saying that you put those two together. box now has put christianity with radical muslim islamists who are burning children, killing children burying them alive. this will haunt him for the rest of his life, i think. i'm just appalled. bob, you have to at least say this is one he really stepped in. >> not -- i just did say that, but i also think you keep in mind the audience was the most evangelical christian gathering of any place in the year. if there was one place i would decide not to make that statement, it would be there. >> do you want to say -- okay. the fact that there are some butlisms spokesmen who opposed the burning of the pilot on religious grounds is not comforting at all. because it imply it is their religion had allowed it so would they. when he is talking about problems, he has to focus on the contemporary radical islamic element and the fact that islam is okay with it. don't bring in this other gar badge. >> making excuses. >> i'm sorry dana. >> it is good. >> one quick observation. he will not -- president obama and the administration will not say muslim extremists. they just will not put those two words together. yet, they will say christianity. he just indicted the whole christian faith from 1,000 years. ing that happened -- >> yes, he did. >> i don't know, bob. he didn't talk certain groups of christians. >> but this is the same president that said if you know, muslims come under attack, that he will stand with them. >> he can burn a bible but not a koran. >> back 1,000 years ago wheeler in row burned christians in rome, right, and look at that now these terrible people doing this and the christians were persecuted. >> he just doesn't get it. kind of reminds me going off the top of my head hurricane you know say in relationships, one of the things that drove you crazy when married was getting into an argument with your wife and issues from the past would come back up? it is like -- oh oh, well, 1100 years ago, you did not pick up your socks. >> yes. >> this is a president too, keep in mind, after an american was beheaded, went and continued laughing and carrying on about his day, 12 minutes later, golfing. >> six. six minutes. >> okay. dispute at the time. >> an indictment. >> that is the problem here. so it is embarrassing. he doesn't seem to be taking this seriously and the jug ta bog, -- jug ta bog between, yes, bob is -- >> this infuriated me and ended with a line and i had to change the line because they thought it was too outrageous people thought it was too much, too far, going too far. i said and i'm gonna say what the line is now says after all, mr. president you're a christian, too. i changed it to that because originally, it said something else. i'm not gonna say what it said originally. let's not. >> no, no, i can be -- i have to say, to stand up in front of christians and indict the whole christian 2008 the way he did today, as a christian, as a practicing christian catholic, i'm outraged. route outraged. >> i thought it was the wrong time to be philosophical and give us his world view. but i do think he was not trying to indict you will all of christianity, he was trying to be a history professor. this is what he does. this is how he tries to explain to us and reason with us as if we were in the classroom. >> great, now we have got stuck with a community organizer/wannabe professor, where is the commander in chief? anyone else want to apply? >> flying sorties in iraq right now. >> should he stay away from this breakfast? this has not been very good for him over the years, has it? >> the most important meal of the day though, eric. >> all right. next, we got something for you, pause shep smith joins us live from jordan with more on the country's air strikes today against isis. also ahead shall nbc news anchor brian williams is busted for a polled faced lie he has been telling for more than a decade. >> we asked the u.s. army to take us on an air mission with them. they send. we knew about there was risk involved. >> stay tuned for the rest of that unbelievable story coming up. 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>> interesting eric. the foreign minister told us today that the air strikes carried out today in syria were a continuation of what jordan has been doing all along. he said they are just greater in number today so there is an escalation they sent more jets out and the pentagon updated things. the pentagon originally reported they dropped the bombs in raqqa, in syria instead, more in the northeastern region, the details are there the foreign minister told us that the jordanians had been carrying out air strikes over syria and iraq which was brand new information to us and now, we just gotten word from the pentagon, brand new information to them as well, the pentagon says the jordanians have not opinion carrying out air strikes in iraq, only syria, be that as it may. there were 20 jets involved according to the pentagon today, multiple strikes using multiple kinds of ammunition. said to have struck isis strongholds, the foreign minister told me that they struck a training camp as well. they didn't have any assessments of what those strikes had accomplished just yet but certainly, eric, as we -- many in the united states have been hoping, there would be a stronger show of force and we got that from the king today. one of his spokesmen has just issued a statement as well mainly with the same things that this is a war that we cannot lose, that we must win. of course that is juxtaposed against our own military telling us at the highest levels that this war against isis if you will, cannot be won by the military, they must change the ideology and the foreign minister insisted to us that they are doing everything they can to do that as well. a tall order. >> shep, it's dana. i had a question about something that richard engel who is the nbc foreign correspondent said. and the question he was asking about the klyms that the administration is making gains have opinion achieved in the fight against isis versus reality on the ground. and he says that from his reporting and his observation that those two things are not matching up. have you heard the same and how pig of a problem is that when you're trying to lead a coalition? >> have i heard the same? i have heard the same, that we have been able to -- there have been accomplishments made that they have opinion able to keep isis from progressing in areas were they were trying to keep them from progressing. isis did those strike in the oil-rich -- an oil-rich area. to say that isis has been beaten back i think would be to -- that flies in the face of the facts. the truth is thousands of isis fighters have been killed. the jordanians tell us that the air strikes have been effective and that isis does not have nearly as many fighters as it used to you its ranks grow by the week because we are led to believe the recruiting increases. it will be interesting to see whether recruiting increases on the heels of the video of the brutal murder of the jordanian hero. there are many in this region who suggest that no young muslim would sign up for something like that. it is just too far afield from all that they believe and that there are many here in jordan who believe that that video may hurt them, not help them. >> shep, it's bob. the jordanians found 20 ships -- 20 aircraft in the air. they found a big ammunition dump apparently killed one of the leaders of isis. and got a training camp. i, for the longest time, thought that we were hitting everything we knew was available. this now makes me sort of back off a little bait saying why didn't the coalition know these before? those seem to be a pretty big deal ammunition dumps and training camps? >> i said the same thing. and here's how it was described to me. a training camp is something that can spring up in any place and realtime intelligence is something that might indicate to you, okay, there is a training camp in other words, might just go to a cleared area and begin some training. that could have been something that they spotted from the air and went in and took them out. either way sounds like that's good thing. as far as the ammo dump, here's how it's opinion described to me again. is it possible that a bunch of ammunition was being gathered in an area and they were to go use it in their fight and the coalition saw that ammunition dump, if you will and went in and blew it up before they could use it? that's sort of how it has opinion described to me. i haven't seen it and i don't have intelligence reports that give me any specificity on that matter. i heard you yesterday saying we probably are striking all the targets we can gotten from the pentagon they have taken 86 individual strikes in that region where they were striking today, 86 total in all of this time, not to say they are not striking everything they know p the problem is they don't have great eyes and ears on the ground, that we know of. there is certainly a comp pon then the of ground intelligence about which we have no knowledge and i understand that, you they say they are doing all they can and no evidence to suggest otherwise. >> shep, hi, it's kimberly. so the jordanians have tremendous heart and they seem to be very focused within a matter of one day, they were able to accomplish a tremendous amount. realistically speaking, they are a country that is not going to be able to go on this extended state of alert and continue the sustained strikes for a period of time unless the united states steps in to help with the refueling and with other resources that we have. >> yeah, you are on point. i spoke to the foreign minister about that and we have reports from the minister of information on that. and we -- the united states was with them on the sorties today. the jordanians, my understanding, do not ever fly these air strikes alone. they are always in concert with the united states. other jets, like their jets, plus awacs planes, plus refueling planes, the united states that did the refueling of those planes. that said, you're right, their resources are limited. the king has said we will do this until every bomb is done and they want more help from us. the foreign minister today very thankful for the hundreds of millions pledged the last couple of years for refugee crisis and otherwise. they want more weapons, a matter of them showing that they will go in and do more than they have done before. they have a very capable air force, though not very large. they have terrific on the ground intelligence. to say that they have a ground force would be a stretch, one that could handle something like this. they really haven't moved forward in forward come pat since the '67 war in israel. >> shep two questions. as an act of substance and symbolism, how effective has the king becoming -- flying a sortie opinion for that country? and the second question is has brian williams hit any of his targets? >> oh, my god. >> well, a, the king did not fly any sorties there was a picture floating around during fox and friends time today that made it look like he did, but he did not. we got that knocked down as quickly as we could. as far as the other matter goes, you know i'm a world away, sitting over here in jordan wondering what in the heck is going on pack there. i don't know. >> it was a silly question. >> all right. shep, you're doing a great job. >> you're is a silly guy. >> appreciate your time. shepard smith. next on the five, brian williams, the face of nbc news has opinion caught red handed for lying to america for 12 years. >> two of our for you with helicopters were hit by ground fire, including the one i was in. >> no kidding. >> rpdzmt ak-47. >> well, williams gave a weak confession on his show last night. prepare yourself for this one. at ally bank no branches equals great rates. it's a fact. kind of like mute buttons equal danger. ...that sound good? 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[ female announcer ] stay strong, stay active with boost. so was brian lyin'? news anchor brian williams spent a decade repeating a story in great detail, of how he was in a helicopter forced down pie an rpg in iraq in 2003. roll it scarsdale. >> we were in some helicopters two of our four helicopters were hit by ground fire including the one i was in. >> no kidding. >> rpd and ak-47. we figure out how to land safely and we did. we landed very quickly and hard and we but the down and we were stuck. four birds in the middle of the desert. and we were north out ahead of the other americans. >> you're a true journalistic and war hero. >> a war hero. after telling this tale gore, like, ever he now says it's false. after getting called out of course. >> i made a mistake in recalling the events of 12 years ago. i want to apologize. i said i was traveling in an aircraft that was hit by rpd fire. i was instead in a following aircraft. we all landed after the ground fire incident and spent two harrowing nights in a sand storm in the iraq desert. this was a bungled attempt by me to thank one special veteran, and pie extension, our brave military men and women veterans everywhere. >> now, a lot of people aren't buying that. come on, who hasn't accidentally thought they were shot down in a helicopter? or shot at from snipers in bosnia. heck, i remember one christmas almost getting shot when i fought those terrorists in nakatome plaza and i remembered that was "die hard." remembered kicky rocky's butt once and that was "rocky iv." did i kill bin laden or was that "zero dark thirty"? in all seriousness, the pilot killing williams claims they did come under some gunfire but not an rpd hit. in brian's defense, he was in iraq, unlike me back then i was an editor in new york. the closest thing i came to enemy fire were shots of tequila. so, brian really embellished which is really wrong, but it is not surprise. brian's always opinion about brian, an air brushed absorber of accolades flygt from talk show couches to sitcom walk-ones, speaking the truth was just his day job. but to some perhaps he still is a hero. for the likes of michael moore and assorted msnbc hangs, fake heroism beats the real thing like chris kyle's. after all, how can you call it stolen valor when you never thought it was valor to begin with? this is what i don't get. >> yes, what? >> this is an easy lie to debunk. how could it survive a decade? 'cause he said it over and over again? was it pause it was brian williams? >> yes, he is the perfect package, looks like not even a normal human being, robotic journalist newscaster. not so bad yourself. >> thank you very much. worked really hard at that. no one wants to believe he is telling a lie because he doesn't look like that kind of guy. seems normal and straight laced and personable and sort of perfect. >> you -- >> kind of like romney. >> eric if it had opinion romney, that is the question. >> so last night twitter was ablaze with jokes, radioity? driving down the turnpike, i got hit with an rpg, just kidding i must have misremembered that by the way, a new verb. after the jokes die down, think about what this is, he made something, fabricated a story for ten years about something as important as being shot at in iraq or his bird went down, lay the birds down. clearly made up this -- a lot of this story. one point he said they slept in the helicopters for two days. someone, one of the military people saying that never happened, he took off and went back to kuwait. the point is this people consume their news, they listen, watch brian williams and believe everything he says gospel fact. now look what nbc has done the last couple of weeks. gruber. dpruber wasn't even talked about for 40 days by innocence. the guy at nbc who compared kyle to racism whatnot. they are the most biassed toward the presidency of any of the mainstream media news organizations, yet people are still listening to them and taking it as does pell. last thought if anyone else had done it that wasn't brian williams it would be an "snl" skit. >> probably will. >> you think? >> maybe not. now that i think about t ask you, bob, okay yeah he was shot at by small arms fire. that is true. is it a natural process over time to take a story and you kind of make it bigger and bigger until you don't even know what's real anymore? a lot of people do that. >> i had that happen for my drug dreams i had page real. you know i'm writing a book. and i actually have been shot and then went back and verified it. not shot directly, off a ricochet, at a miner strike. now it hurts. >> where did it hit? >> hit right -- right at my soul. no, it was a glancing thing. the point is you don't forget that somebody shoots at you. >> misremembered already. walking it back. >> as soon as i submitted that thing, check this out they did, it was true. so i depunked -- i couldn't remember in my mind whether it really was. if i was in a helicopter and did he they did that that i think would be different. >> dana he was counseled by his bosses no to repeat the story yet he did. that's stupid. pause it's a good story. >> yes. >> too bad it is not true. already one actor in the family, co-live his real life because his life is fascinating. he is the network anchor of nbc. that's an amazing job. it already is fascinating. there's -- >> brand. >> any need to embellish it. the story was already good. >> the story was already good. that's what i'm saying, he was in iraq. >> yeah. >> he was there. he did -- saw a lot of things. that's brave. in my mind. look, when he was there, i was working -- i was editing stuff magazine half-drunk all the times. >> one of the problems -- sorry one of the issues correct me if i am wrong there was one instance where he recounted the story the way it actually happened and something like 12 -- it was this much more interesting story. >> i think the military kind of also -- i think one of the reasons it lasted for so long is that the military is, one they are busy, okay, they decided to make -- their career to sacrifice for their country, not to be on talk shows. and i think that they hear some of these guys pig shots pack this washington like oh geez. whatever. and then maybe finally just had enough. >> they don't have time to do the pinocchios, too busy saving lives. >> this guy, in the media right, knows this stuff is on tape. wouldn't you think he would stop and say i understand this living out there, this ever gonna catch up with me. >> he is not the first. >> ever think about that bob in your own life? >> my own life? oh, yeah. hell. so many things that happened to me that were -- but this, i really was -- i say shot let be clear, i was zinged right over here. >> so, turned into a zinger. >> you try it. it hurts like hell. >> i got shot with a cortisone b-12 shot. >> those are good, too huh, nice little energy boost. coming up the coach of the seattle seahawks says he can't stop thinking about his call that cost him his team the super bowl. pete carroll's new interview ahead. 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according to the national center for education statistics, the number of young workers is on a down trend 16% of high schoolers held part happen time jobs in 2012 down 50% from 1990. one columnist wrote every teen should be required to work a grubby job to work humility. is she right? greg, i have to ask you, did you have a dprub i job? >> even worse. i applied for the job as rat catcher in san mateo, california, and i didn't get that job. i worked at a soda -- at a soda bottling -- >> too small? >> too scared of rats and bottled soda for a couple weeks. grubby jobs exist so you can talk about them when you're older and say i had this job. it is like war stories for people who don't go to war. the problem is -- the point of work is not about money it is about becoming a human who can interact with other human beings which is why this high unemployment among teens and young adults is so grim because you're creating a generation of adults who cannot communicate who are aggressive, uncooperative. you see it every day. you see kids that cannot communicate, frightening comments on youtube and message boards of people who act aggressively and do not know how doff a decent conversation pause that's what you learn. when you're a paper boy, you have to go and talk to the cat lady or the lonely widower or the family. you have to learn how to talk to people. that's missing. you got a million kids who don't know how to talk. they are at home. >> do you think -- do you agree with her that it does make you have a little humility and also to be more kind to people as you go through life? >> i think it builds character. i come from a family with strong work ethic, i loved jobs, i loved working a job when i was in high school and college and law school. so, for me i think it's great. i loved it well you know everyone knows i worked in the deli. sometimes that can be dprub i when you get potato salad all over you. >> as parents of teenagers did you guys ever try to encourage your kids to go get a grub i job, so to speak? >> just do anything, in terms of a job. when i was a kid, i had -- you know, grew up at the connecticut shore and in the summer, double the population they had to hire gar page guys to throw gar badge, that's what i did talk humility and man what people put -- the plastic stuff around, man, it was just pure gar page. >> gross. >> yeah. yeah. it was horrible. you had to start like 5:00ing in the morning. >> what kind of an impact do these numbers of teens no the working have for the long-term health of our economy? >> i was surprised they were as high as they are. i was shocked to see that few teens -- few parents require their kids to work. i think eric's right, you learn so many kill skills when tough deal with people, tough talk, communicate, problem solve, i think extremely important. that said, my son plays payable so i haven't pushed him to work. i mean, there's enough -- a lot of demands with academics. college is so competitive now. >> so true. >> you have no idea how hard it to get into schools, when we were younger, you can get into, get into that your default, laid back, if you need to get into that, those are upper schools now and amazing. i really focus -- stress the education part for him. i haven't forced him to work. i would love him to, would. son, if you are watching now -- mowing lawns is a great, great thing. i grew up mowing lawns, shoveling snow, earn money work hard, respect money. you're right bob, a fantastic way to get kids involved. >> you have any jobs on offer? >> no i was gonna ask you, what was your grubby job? >> i was -- >> deejay. >> music dejail a different between chores and jobs a job you go and show up and a boss and get paid for that a chore is something you do around the house and i would say when we were at the ranch, for the summer, i would say the boys had to do more dprubby jobs than we did, but picking eggs that was scary. because -- >> scary? >> yes, because you reach your hand in there to get the egg, the hen might peck you. to protect her eggs. that was kind of dprub pill. >> hate those peckers. >> i bait tressed a lot. and i think that was true in terms of time management and also dealing with customers. sort of trying to -- >> scary these days. >> and i bussed tables. >> to shovel out the stalls and stuff. >> that was usually my cousin. i know, poor waden preston. >> you know the dprubiest job? bait shop. >> i don't think a grubby job. it. >> is grub. >> that's true. extremely concerning report from the u.n. on isis that the world should know about bob's gonna tell you. you only know in a fire to get out, to escape and now ok you are outside and you are safe but what do you do now and that's where the red cross came in... . we ran out of the house just wearing our pajamas. at that point just to even have a toothbrush that i could call my own was so important... . ...you know it just makes you feel like a person again. every 8 minutes the american red cross responds to a home fire or other emergency. you can help. please donate now. bar bare kbrans of isis shown us they will behead people, throw them off buildings and purple them alive. if you thought the atrocities couldn't get any worse, the united nations has rae leased a report showing the brutality toward even children. the report says several cases of mass executions of boys as well as reports of beheadings, crucifixion of children and burying children alive. could it get any worse? dana? >> in is the consequence of leaving iraq early and we have to look to the root cause to not do it again. fixing this problem now is so much harder than if we had just taken some time to withdraw at a more relaxed pace. >> but nonetheless, greg there are evenil people are going to do evil things. >> we have got to kill them all. lost the right to be surprised. this has been going on forever. aren't shocked, just jaded. where are the gays? where are the feminists? talking about this stuff. they are killing women and gays and evil only gets worse until you decide to get party killing it the u.n. doesn't mandate a force to fight isis. we should take that whole clown college and throw them into the street and use the savings to build pork-filled missiles. >> curious of this evil thing. you prosecuted people you see some people were just pure evil, nothing -- you know, you just look at it and say this is just an evil evil, evil person >> this is yeah, absolutely especially the crimes committed against children, children murdered or horribly abused and neglected, some of the gang cases. yeah, unfortunately yes. evil does exist. that's why you have to find jurors that are not reluctant to call it what it is and to look it in the face and convict them. >> kim perry brings up something important. i remember -- you remember in the late '80s, when the gang violence was getting out of control in l.a. and the area -- started to spread, in the midwest, big cities in the east and i remember thinking how do you ever stop this? how is this ever gonna be stopped? and they did. they found a way to get it done and they stopped it. this feels the same way more and more outrageous, people killing -- back then, young -- people killing other children. gured it out. i think they will figure this out. hopefully, shep, he pointed out at one point, hopefully that they have crossed the line now. they have gone so far as even people who may have been radicalized in the past pushed them to the point that is not what we are about. >> remember we live -- wasn't too long ago where 6 million jews were gassed. so apparently we can endure some pretty disgusting things. >> good point. >> think a good resource to find out what actually could happen is that counter extremeism project. you go to their website find out more information how they are recruiting and actually, this there are scholars who study this who believe the video of burning the jordanian pilot alive is good for their recruitment that video was not made for us for our horror it was made for recruitment. >> anyone see this video? >> yes. >> i watched the video. the first 15 minutes are all prop dan da and i have to tell you, if you're vulnerable, it's compelling. they make a compelling story. you go, okay, not sure i do there, but up until that point where they light the fire, let me tell you something it's well produced and they tell a story that if you're weak and vulnerable, you may just sign up. >> what it's about. >> i'm weak and vulnerable but not joining those dudes. one more thing is up next. know that chasing performance can mean lower returns and fewer choices in retirement. know that proper allocation could help increase returns so you can enjoy that second home sooner. know the right financial planning can help you save for college and retirement. know where you stand with pnc total insight. a new investing and banking experience with personalized guidance and online tools. visit a branch, call or go online today. hi there. time for one more thing. greg, you ready? >> i'm ready. i'm going to do one of these. i hate these people. i am convinced i'm turning into andy rooney which is not a bad thing. >> you are. >> i'll going to tell you something, when a price goes up on a product that you like, so does the tax involved. and so what happens is let's say a bowl of soup that is 4.75, you come in one day it is now 5 on on -- 5.02. the cashier has to give you 98 cents back keep doing it over and over again suddenly, a place that never had a line before has a long line off poor person basically doing a mathematical problem as harded a any common core thing finding 98 cents, takes a transaction that is 20 sends and makes it into a minute. what does that train everybody to do? you start carrying around pennies and quarters. we don't -- we stopped doing this. change, change was for the 1980s. i thought we moved away from that model. we have to stop this. >> this is why you need apple pay. >> yes. >> you have got to calm down on this. >> almost time for special report. >> why do i still pay with change? >> that was like whoa. okay. anger filibuster. >> are you talking about the place over there? got to get the app and go like this automatically. >> anyway this is fascinating. dana? >> i tell how saves pennies, tell you this guys his name is ronald reed. he was from prattle borrow, vermont, a very brewingle person, held his coat together with safety pins and worked a lot of jobs and turns out when he died at 92 he bequeathed $6 million to his local library and his hospital and no one knew he was a multimillionaire. you never know who might -- >> i love it. >> bolling? >> very quickly. you remember the worst call in the history, pete carroll the pass play losing the super bowl, probably could be one of the fools of the week. here's how he explained it this morning on the "today" show. >> i wake up and can't stop thinking about it i feel responsible for a lot of people right now. it was the worst result of a call ever. the call would have been a great one if we catch it. would have been just fine and nobody would have thought twice about it. that one moment that moment doesn't -- isn't gonna define this team and who we are. >> no, but it may define you and it was the worst call in history. >> oh, man. >> wish a happy birthday to sicari new new, who is 112. the oldest living human -- oldest living man ever. i ain't gonna get there with you, buddy. glad you're there. >> feast your eyes on model hannah davis, the new cover of the sport s"sports illustrated"." they covered it a little bit too risques. jimmy fallon had that on "the tonight show." i hope you will join me, i'm on the o'reilly factor but it is a surprise why i hope that you tune in and figure it out. >> you bring that picture back up? >> that is it for us. special report is next. jordan takes revenge on isis while pressure builds on president obama from republicans and democrats to up the ante from the u.s. this is "special report." good evening, welcome to washington i'm brett bare. jordan wasted little time on making good on its threat to wage a war on isis following the horrific execution of a captured pilot. late this afternoon jordan's president and king issued statement, "this is a war the world can not abored to lose but to win it all of us must be in it to stand as partners in the fight against
New-yorkUnited-statesGermanyAlaskaVermontCaliforniaSyriaWashingtonDistrict-of-columbiaJordanConnecticutScarsdale will have come back from iraq and syria to the united states. we have opened cases all over the place book cussed on this threat and so it is not a new york thing, not a washington thing, something we book cuss on throughout the fbi. >> eric are you surprised by the candidacy that the transparency of the director saying that 49 states that's really an alarming statistic. >> alarming, yes. happy that's being as open. remember, he did a "60 minutes" interview a couple months ago outlined some of the things they were doing and made a lot of people realize how important what they do is. all the -- all the tracking that they are doing all the signer tracking that they are doing, i think it's began tassic. at that time, and i agree now, i still say they need all the money they need, we should continue to give them that fund whatever they want to do it is important to note that some of the areas that are the most vulnerable, our southern border, i don't care what you say, people will say this is a right-wing talking point, it isn't. our southern border is vulnerable, people crossing the border terrorists possibly and also our ports here. new york ports are very, very wide open. so, doesn't surprise me that they have open cases. >> dana? >> well in the page three of the "wall street journal" today, he is there an a article, if you believe that, then i think -- and i think most people would agree about what you said we have to tell congress that we want them to reauthorize the bait tree antibiotic act. the fbi today, the other story page three "wall street journal" is saying that they are very concerned that a portion of the patriot act, which is the 215 letters, which you know about, kimberly, this is controversy that erupted after the questions about surveillance and this is why this is a topic now and why it's becoming a heated one in congress, except for, i hope maybe what comey is doing is trying to be as transparent as possible about the problem so he can say please don't take away one of the tools. all this tool does that they are talking about is, for example, he will say diner, they know somebody used a credit card. and they go to that diner and say, we need the record. the diner is not allowed to tell anybody that they have given the record, you that record allows them to track back to other financial transactions try to connect the dots. if we do not allow the fbi to continue to have that authority, we will have done america a great injustice. >> i agree with you wholeheartedly. greg? >> i mean, comey said that there are, what 49 states, i believe owe obama said at least it is not 57. the high point about that the only issue we are basing, not the western terrorists. the western terrorists are often the most competent ones, the ones that pulled off most of the grillsliest crimes, the western-trained ones are the ones that come from the west but the media government academic complex that focuses on certain kinds of hate which are directed against the chosen agrieved group in america. so, they happily ignore real hate, the kind of hate that results in death. for example islamists hate us they bomb us however, we are told, as americans to mind our pronouns, to watch our language, for fear of creating some sort of islam fwoebphobic atmosphere absurd a fifth column protecting evil under the accusation of islamphobia. anybody who thought that snowden was a hero should be rethinking this right now because he went after the very same brocks that we are using to go after these. >> he made the program obsolete. >> he did. >> some ways, starting from scratch. back here and tried. >> let me get bob. >> i'm sure with this -- if you listen to all that comey said said the thing i'm not worried about as much, they really don't have connections directly to isis. the people in their pace.swho are putting together bombs and doing other stuff and they are very difficult to track. i'm sure he sent out a directive to every one of his 54 offices saying we want you to begin to look for people who might have a problem with this. by the have a problem w and i think very much like what hoover did with germans. he sent a directive out of all half oils fbi offices during world war ii, look at germans who are suspect. good thing to do. i think it is important we try to understand what the experts are telling us about how these western jihadists are recruited. let's say that you're a 17-year-old westerner and you're kind of intrigued and maybe do a little internet search. isis is so sophisticated that they can figure out a way to connect with you and take it offline to their little ecret internet area why bell are frustrated with companies like twitter and their -- i shouldn't say people, there are some people in law enforcement and -- that are dealing with violent extremism that are fwrus straightened with companies that are not willing necessarily to cooperate as much as they would like to try to help us find out these guys are in the basement because it's fine to like, dismiss that you one of them could be successful. >> most dangerous. >> they are harder. >> harder to track. >> don't knock down people who happen to work in basements. >> all right. let's talk about this talk what's happening right now in the world. we have a country of jordan that is rallying around their king that is showing leadership and is decisive and is waging this war against isis. very termed in his focus and strong in his rhetoric. these are some comments from our president of the united states, our commander in chief, at a prayer breakfast today. >> unless we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place, remember that during the crusades, the inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of christ. this is not unique to one group or one religion. there is a tendency in us a sinful tendency that can pervert and distort our faith. >> was that in part of the apology tour on behalf of isis sold out in all states? >> president obama is absolutely right. however, he is talking the 1100s. that's his defense. he had to find an example from 1,000 years ago. a guy was set on fire two days ago and our president says well, you know we did bad things 1,000 years ago. he feeds to leave the white house and go back to a sit-in because that is pru glad school activist lunacy relativistic bs, absolutely embarrassing. meanwhile, we have the real air jordan by thing -- flying sorties, makes him look so small. >> you know, the thing that -- the problem was historically, what he is saying the worst time in the world to say it. >> yes that's what it is. >> the timing of this is unbelievable. >> the other thing take something back here, my friend eric. i notice that jordanians flew over 100 sorties in the first day out and found targets, apparently, i hope targets. so i probably underestimated the number of targets there were for us to hit. >> the next block. so you know sometimes president obama will say something and it kind of percolates a little bit and you wait and all of a sudden, a couple days later, everyone kind of realizes what he said. when he said those comments this morning, the hair on the back of my neck stood up because i know this is one that's gonna go down, that's gonna follow him throughout the rest of his presidency and throughout his legacy because he didn't just go over the line, he pole vaulted over the line on that he went back, as greg points out, 1200 -- 1100 years whatever it is, and used an example of christians and in the same breath said -- kind of explained why we need to at least consider what the butlism terrorists are doing, killing people, pea heading people pumping people alive. to mention those in the same statement reminds me of when that nbc analyst, remember chris kyle, this whole issue and he said something like well some would say chris kyle was probably racist. >> and on killing spree. >> went on killing sbrees. just by saying that you put those two together. box now has put christianity with radical muslim islamists who are burning children, killing children burying them alive. this will haunt him for the rest of his life, i think. i'm just appalled. bob, you have to at least say this is one he really stepped in. >> not -- i just did say that, but i also think you keep in mind the audience was the most evangelical christian gathering of any place in the year. if there was one place i would decide not to make that statement, it would be there. >> do you want to say -- okay. the fact that there are some butlisms spokesmen who opposed the burning of the pilot on religious grounds is not comforting at all. because it imply it is their religion had allowed it so would they. when he is talking about problems, he has to focus on the contemporary radical islamic element and the fact that islam is okay with it. don't bring in this other gar badge. >> making excuses. >> i'm sorry dana. >> it is good. >> one quick observation. he will not -- president obama and the administration will not say muslim extremists. they just will not put those two words together. yet, they will say christianity. he just indicted the whole christian faith from 1,000 years. ing that happened -- >> yes, he did. >> i don't know, bob. he didn't talk certain groups of christians. >> but this is the same president that said if you know, muslims come under attack, that he will stand with them. >> he can burn a bible but not a koran. >> back 1,000 years ago wheeler in row burned christians in rome, right, and look at that now these terrible people doing this and the christians were persecuted. >> he just doesn't get it. kind of reminds me going off the top of my head hurricane you know say in relationships, one of the things that drove you crazy when married was getting into an argument with your wife and issues from the past would come back up? it is like -- oh oh, well, 1100 years ago, you did not pick up your socks. >> yes. >> this is a president too, keep in mind, after an american was beheaded, went and continued laughing and carrying on about his day, 12 minutes later, golfing. >> six. six minutes. >> okay. dispute at the time. >> an indictment. >> that is the problem here. so it is embarrassing. he doesn't seem to be taking this seriously and the jug ta bog, -- jug ta bog between, yes, bob is -- >> this infuriated me and ended with a line and i had to change the line because they thought it was too outrageous people thought it was too much, too far, going too far. i said and i'm gonna say what says after all, mr. president you're a christian, too. i changed it to that because originally, it said something else. i'm not gonna say what it said originally. let's not. >> no, no, i can be -- i have to say, to stand up in front of christians and indict the whole christian 2008 the way he did today, as a christian, as a practicing christian catholic, i'm outraged. route outraged. >> i thought it was the wrong time to be philosophical and give us his world view. but i do think he was not trying to indict you will all of christianity, he was trying to be a history professor. this is what he does. this is how he tries to explain to us and reason with us as if we were in the classroom. >> great, now we have got stuck with a community organizer/wannabe professor, where is the commander in chief? anyone else want to apply? >> flying sorties in iraq right now. >> should he stay away from this breakfast? this has not been very good for him over the years, has it? >> the most important meal of the day though, eric. >> all right. next, we got something for you, pause shep smith joins us live from jordan with more on the country's air strikes today against isis. also ahead shall nbc news anchor brian williams is busted for a polled faced lie he has been telling for more than a decade. >> we asked the u.s. army to take us on an air mission with them. they send. we knew about there was risk involved. >> stay tuned for the rest of that unbelievable story coming up. today, jordan made good on that pledge sending warplanes to bomb isis targets inside syria. for more on those strikes, let's go back to shep smith live in amman. shep fantastic reporting today earlier, watched you talk to the foreign minister. how are the jordanian air strikes pro-depression and how are the king's extensive packing for the air strikes interpreted by other arab countries specifically saudi arabia or qatar? >> interesting eric. the foreign minister told us today that the air strikes carried out today in syria were a continuation of what jordan has been doing all along. he said they are just greater in number today so there is an escalation they sent more jets out and the pentagon updated things. the pentagon originally reported they dropped the bombs in raqqa, in syria instead, more in the northeastern region, the details are there the foreign minister told us that the jordanians had been carrying out air strikes over syria and iraq which was brand new information to us and now, we just gotten word from the pentagon, brand new information to them as well, the pentagon says the jordanians have not opinion carrying out air strikes in iraq, only syria, be that as it may. there were 20 jets involved according to the pentagon today, multiple strikes using multiple kinds of ammunition. said to have struck isis strongholds, the foreign minister told me that they struck a training camp as well. they didn't have any assessments of what those strikes had accomplished just yet but certainly, eric, as we -- many in the united states have been hoping, there would be a stronger show of force and we got that from the king today. one of his spokesmen has just issued a statement as well mainly with the same things that this is a war that we cannot lose, that we must win. of course that is juxtaposed against our own military telling us at the highest levels that this war against isis if you will, cannot be won by the military, they must change the ideology and the foreign minister insisted to us that they are doing everything they can to do that as well. a tall order. >> shep, it's dana. i had a question about something that richard engel who is the nbc foreign correspondent said. and the question he was asking about the klyms that the administration is making gains have opinion achieved in the fight against isis versus reality on the ground. and he says that from his reporting and his observation that those two things are not matching up. have you heard the same and how pig of a problem is that when you're trying to lead a coalition? >> have i heard the same? i have heard the same, that we have been able to -- there have been accomplishments made that they have opinion able to keep isis from progressing in areas were they were trying to keep them from progressing. isis did those strike in the oil-rich -- an oil-rich area. to say that isis has been beaten back i think would be to -- that flies in the face of the facts. the truth is thousands of isis fighters have been killed. the jordanians tell us that the air strikes have been effective and that isis does not have nearly as many fighters as it used to you its ranks grow by the week because we are led to believe the recruiting increases. it will be interesting to see whether recruiting increases on the heels of the video of the brutal murder of the jordanian hero. there are many in this region who suggest that no young muslim would sign up for something like that. it is just too far afield from all that they believe and that there are many here in jordan who believe that that video may hurt them, not help them. >> shep, it's bob. the jordanians found 20 ships -- 20 aircraft in the air. they found a big ammunition dump apparently killed one of the leaders of isis. and got a training camp. i, for the longest time, thought that we were hitting everything we knew was available. this now makes me sort of back off a little bait saying why didn't the coalition know these before? those seem to be a pretty big deal ammunition dumps and training camps? >> i said the same thing. and here's how it was described to me. a training camp is something that can spring up in any place and realtime intelligence is something that might indicate to you, okay, there is a training camp in other words, might just go to a cleared area and begin some training. that could have been something that they spotted from the air and went in and took them out. either way sounds like that's good thing. as far as the ammo dump, here's how it's opinion described to me again. is it possible that a bunch of ammunition was being gathered in an area and they were to go use it in their fight and the coalition saw that ammunition dump, if you will and went in and blew it up before they could use it? that's sort of how it has opinion described to me. i haven't seen it and i don't have intelligence reports that give me any specificity on that matter. i heard you yesterday saying we probably are striking all the targets we can gotten from the pentagon they have taken 86 individual strikes in that region where they were striking today, 86 total in all of this time, not to say they are not striking everything they know p the problem is they don't have great eyes and ears on the ground, that we know of. there is certainly a comp pon then the of ground intelligence about which we have no knowledge and i understand that, you they say they are doing all they can and no evidence to suggest otherwise. >> shep, hi, it's kimberly. so the jordanians have tremendous heart and they seem to be very focused within a matter of one day, they were able to accomplish a tremendous amount. realistically speaking, they are a country that is not going to be able to go on this extended state of alert and continue the sustained strikes for a period of time unless the united states steps in to help with the refueling and with other resources that we have. >> yeah, you are on point. i spoke to the foreign minister about that and we have reports from the minister of information on that. and we -- the united states was with them on the sorties today. the jordanians, my understanding, do not ever fly these air strikes alone. they are always in concert with the united states. other jets, like their jets, plus awacs planes, plus refueling planes, the united states that did the refueling of those planes. that said, you're right, their resources are limited. the king has said we will do this until every bomb is done and they want more help from us. the foreign minister today very thankful for the hundreds of millions pledged the last couple of years for refugee crisis and otherwise. they want more weapons, a matter of them showing that they will go in and do more than they have done before. they have a very capable air force, though not very large. they have terrific on the ground intelligence. to say that they have a ground force would be a stretch, one that could handle something like this. they really haven't moved forward in forward come pat since the '67 war in israel. >> shep two questions. as an act of substance and symbolism, how effective has the king becoming -- flying a sortie opinion for that country? and the second question is has brian williams hit any of his targets? >> oh, my god. >> well, a, the king did not fly any sorties there was a picture floating around during fox and friends time today that made it look like he did, but he did not. we got that knocked down as quickly as we could. as far as the other matter goes, you know i'm a world away, sitting over here in jordan wondering what in the heck is going on pack there. i don't know. >> it was a silly question. >> all right. shep, you're doing a great job. >> you're is a silly guy. >> appreciate your time. shepard smith. next on the five, brian williams, the face of nbc news has opinion caught red handed for lying to america for 12 years. >> two of our for you with helicopters were hit by ground fire, including the one i was in. >> no kidding. >> rpdzmt ak-47. >> well, williams gave a weak confession on his show last night. prepare yourself for this one. so was brian lyin'? news anchor brian williams spent a decade repeating a story in great detail, of how he was in a helicopter forced down pie an rpg in iraq in 2003. roll it scarsdale. >> we were in some helicopters two of our four helicopters were hit by ground fire including the one i was in. >> no kidding. >> rpd and ak-47. we figure out how to land safely and we did. we landed very quickly and hard down and we were stuck. four birds in the middle of the desert. and we were north out ahead of the other americans. >> you're a true journalistic and war hero. >> a war hero. after telling this tale gore, like, ever he now says it's false. after getting called out of course. >> i made a mistake in recalling the events of 12 years ago. i want to apologize. i said i was traveling in an aircraft that was hit by rpd fire. i was instead in a following aircraft. we all landed after the ground fire incident and spent two harrowing nights in a sand storm in the iraq desert. this was a bungled attempt by me to thank one special veteran, and pie extension, our brave military men and women veterans everywhere. >> now, a lot of people aren't buying that. come on, who hasn't accidentally thought they were shot down in a helicopter? or shot at from snipers in bosnia. heck, i remember one christmas almost getting shot when i fought those terrorists in nakatome plaza and i remembered that was "die hard." remembered kicky rocky's butt once and that was "rocky iv." did i kill bin laden or was that "zero dark thirty"? in all seriousness, the pilot killing williams claims they did come under some gunfire but not an rpd hit. in brian's defense, he was in iraq, unlike me back then i was an editor in new york. the closest thing i came to enemy fire were shots of tequila. so, brian really embellished which is really wrong, but it is not surprise. brian's always opinion about brian, an air brushed absorber of accolades flygt from talk show couches to sitcom walk-ones, speaking the truth was just his day job. but to some perhaps he still is a hero. for the likes of michael moore and assorted msnbc hangs, fake heroism beats the real thing like chris kyle's. after all, how can you call it stolen valor when you never thought it was valor to begin with? this is what i don't get. >> yes, what? >> this is an easy lie to debunk. how could it survive a decade? 'cause he said it over and over again? was it pause it was brian williams? >> yes, he is the perfect package, looks like not even a normal human being, robotic journalist newscaster. not so bad yourself. >> thank you very much. worked really hard at that. no one wants to believe he is telling a lie because he doesn't look like that kind of guy. seems normal and straight laced and personable and sort of perfect. >> you -- >> kind of like romney. >> eric if it had opinion romney, that is the question. >> so last night twitter was ablaze with jokes, radioity? driving down the turnpike, i got hit with an rpg, just kidding i must have misremembered that by the way, a new verb. after the jokes die down, think about what this is, he made something, fabricated a story for ten years about something as important as being shot at in iraq or his bird went down, lay the birds down. clearly made up this -- a lot of this story. one point he said they slept in the helicopters for two days. someone, one of the military people saying that never happened, he took off and went back to kuwait. the point is this people consume their news, they listen, watch brian williams and believe everything he says gospel fact. now look what nbc has done the last couple of weeks. gruber. dpruber wasn't even talked about for 40 days by innocence. the guy at nbc who compared kyle to racism whatnot. they are the most biassed toward the presidency of any of the mainstream media news organizations, yet people are still listening to them and taking it as does pell. last thought if anyone else had done it that wasn't brian williams it would be an "snl" skit. >> probably will. >> you think? >> maybe not. now that i think about t ask you, bob, okay yeah he was shot at by small arms fire. that is true. is it a natural process over time to take a story and you kind of make it bigger and bigger until you don't even know what's real anymore? a lot of people do that. >> i had that happen for my drug dreams i had page real. you know i'm writing a book. and i actually have been shot and then went back and verified it. not shot directly, off a ricochet, at a miner strike. now it hurts. >> where did it hit? >> hit right -- right at my soul. no, it was a glancing thing. the point is you don't forget that somebody shoots at you. >> misremembered already. walking it back. >> as soon as i submitted that thing, check this out they did, it was true. so i depunked -- i couldn't remember in my mind whether it really was. if i was in a helicopter and did he they did that that i think would be different. >> dana he was counseled by his bosses no to repeat the story yet he did. that's stupid. pause it's a good story. >> yes. >> too bad it is not true. already one actor in the family, co-live his real life because his life is fascinating. he is the network anchor of nbc. that's an amazing job. it already is fascinating. there's -- >> brand. >> any need to embellish it. the story was already good. >> the story was already good. that's what i'm saying, he was in iraq. >> yeah. >> he was there. he did -- saw a lot of things. that's brave. in my mind. look, when he was there, i was working -- i was editing stuff magazine half-drunk all the times. >> one of the problems -- sorry one of the issues correct me if i am wrong there was one instance where he recounted the story the way it actually happened and something like 12 -- it was this much more interesting story. >> i think the military kind of also -- i think one of the reasons it lasted for so long is that the military is, one they are busy, okay, they decided to make -- their career to sacrifice for their country, not to be on talk shows. and i think that they hear some of these guys pig shots pack this washington like oh geez. whatever. and then maybe finally just had enough. >> they don't have time to do the pinocchios, too busy saving lives. >> this guy, in the media right, knows this stuff is on tape. wouldn't you think he would stop and say i understand this living out there, this ever gonna catch up with me. >> he is not the first. >> ever think about that bob in your own life? >> my own life? oh, yeah. hell. so many things that happened to me that were -- but this, i really was -- i say shot let be clear, i was zinged right over here. >> so, turned into a zinger. >> you try it. it hurts like hell. >> i got shot with a cortisone b-12 shot. >> those are good, too huh, nice little energy boost. coming up the coach of the seattle seahawks says he can't stop thinking about his call that cost him his team the super bowl. pete carroll's new interview ahead. do teenagers these days need to be taught a lesson hard work? according to the national center for education statistics, the number of young workers is on a down trend 16% of high schoolers held part happen time jobs in 2012 down 50% from 1990. one columnist wrote every teen should be required to work a grubby job to work humility. is she right? greg, i have to ask you, did you have a dprub i job? >> even worse. i applied for the job as rat catcher in san mateo, california, and i didn't get that job. i worked at a soda -- at a soda bottling -- >> too small? >> too scared of rats and bottled soda for a couple weeks. grubby jobs exist so you can talk about them when you're older and say i had this job. it is like war stories for people who don't go to war. the problem is -- the point of work is not about money it is about becoming a human who can interact with other human beings which is why this high unemployment among teens and young adults is so grim because you're creating a generation of adults who cannot communicate who are aggressive, uncooperative. you see it every day. you see kids that cannot communicate, frightening comments on youtube and message boards of people who act aggressively and do not know how doff a decent conversation pause that's what you learn. when you're a paper boy, you have to go and talk to the cat lady or the lonely widower or the family. you have to learn how to talk to people. that's missing. you got a million kids who don't know how to talk. they are at home. >> do you think -- do you agree with her that it does make you have a little humility and also to be more kind to people as you go through life? >> i think it builds character. i come from a family with strong work ethic, i loved jobs, i loved working a job when i was in high school and college and law school. so, for me i think it's great. i loved it well you know everyone knows i worked in the deli. sometimes that can be dprub i when you get potato salad all over you. >> as parents of teenagers did you guys ever try to encourage your kids to go get a grub i job, so to speak? >> just do anything, in terms of a job. when i was a kid, i had -- you know, grew up at the connecticut shore and in the summer, double the population they had to hire gar page guys to throw gar badge, that's what i did talk humility and man what people put -- the plastic stuff around, man, it was just pure gar page. >> gross. >> yeah. yeah. it was horrible. you had to start like 5:00ing in the morning. >> what kind of an impact do these numbers of teens no the working have for the long-term health of our economy? >> i was surprised they were as high as they are. i was shocked to see that few teens -- few parents require their kids to work. i think eric's right, you learn so many kill skills when tough deal with people, tough talk, communicate, problem solve, i think extremely important. that said, my son plays payable so i haven't pushed him to work. i mean, there's enough -- a lot of demands with academics. college is so competitive now. >> so true. >> you have no idea how hard it to get into schools, when we were younger, you can get into, get into that your default, laid back, if you need to get into that, those are upper schools now and amazing. i really focus -- stress the education part for him. i haven't forced him to work. i would love him to, would. son, if you are watching now -- mowing lawns is a great, great thing. i grew up mowing lawns, shoveling snow, earn money work hard, respect money. you're right bob, a fantastic way to get kids involved. >> you have any jobs on offer? >> no i was gonna ask you, what was your grubby job? >> i was -- >> deejay. >> music dejail a different between chores and jobs a job you go and show up and a boss and get paid for that a chore is something you do around the house and i would say when we were at the ranch, for the summer, i would say the boys had to do more dprubby jobs than we did, but picking eggs that was scary. because -- >> scary? >> yes, because you reach your hand in there to get the egg, the hen might peck you. to protect her eggs. that was kind of dprub pill. >> hate those peckers. >> i bait tressed a lot. and i think that was true in terms of time management and also dealing with customers. sort of trying to -- >> scary these days. >> and i bussed tables. >> to shovel out the stalls and stuff. >> that was usually my cousin. i know, poor waden preston. >> you know the dprubiest job? bait shop. >> i don't think a grubby job. it. >> is grub. >> that's true. extremely concerning report from the u.n. on isis that the world should know about bob's gonna tell you. test what's that thing? 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where are the feminists? talking about this stuff. they are killing women and gays and evil only gets worse until you decide to get party killing it the u.n. doesn't mandate a force to fight isis. we should take that whole clown college and throw them into the street and use the savings to build pork-filled missiles. >> curious of this evil thing. you prosecuted people you see some people were just pure evil, nothing -- you know, you just look at it and say this is just an evil evil, evil person >> this is yeah, absolutely especially the crimes committed against children, children murdered or horribly abused and neglected, some of the gang cases. yeah, unfortunately yes. evil does exist. that's why you have to find jurors that are not reluctant to call it what it is and to look it in the face and convict them. >> kim perry brings up something important. i remember -- you remember in the late '80s, when the gang violence was getting out of control in l.a. and the area -- started to spread, in the midwest, big cities in the east and i remember thinking how do you ever stop this? how is this ever gonna be stopped? and they did. they found a way to get it done and they stopped it. this feels the same way more and more outrageous, people killing -- back then, young -- people killing other children. they figured it out. i think they will figure this out. hopefully, shep, he pointed out at one point, hopefully that they have crossed the line now. they have gone so far as even people who may have been radicalized in the past pushed them to the point that is not what we are about. >> remember we live -- wasn't too long ago where 6 million jews were gassed. so apparently we can endure some pretty disgusting things. >> good point. >> think a good resource to find out what actually could happen is that counter extremeism project. you go to their website find out more information how they are recruiting and actually, this there are scholars who study this who believe the video of burning the jordanian pilot alive is good for their recruitment that video was not made for us for our horror it was made for recruitment. >> anyone see this video? >> yes. >> i watched the video. the first 15 minutes are all prop dan da and i have to tell you, if you're vulnerable, it's compelling. they make a compelling story. you go, okay, not sure i do there, but up until that point where they light the fire, let me tell you something it's well produced and they tell a story that if you're weak and vulnerable, you may just sign up. >> what it's about. everyone loves the way dark clothes make them feel... and no one wants that feeling to fade. that's why there's woolite darks. without harsh ingredients, it keeps darks vibrant for over 30 washes. so your love for dark clothes doesn't have to fade. for the love of darks. woolite darks. that they and their families would get the benefits and support they earned. we fight for all veterans so that promise is kept. dav. for help, visit dav.org. hi there. time for one more thing. greg, you ready? >> i'm ready. i'm going to do one of these. i hate these people. i am convinced i'm turning into andy rooney which is not a bad thing. >> you are. >> i'll going to tell you something, when a price goes up on a product that you like, so does the tax involved. and so what happens is let's say a bowl of soup that is 4.75, you come in one day it is now 5 on on -- 5.02. the cashier has to give you 98 cents back keep doing it over and over again suddenly, a place that never had a line before has a long line off poor person basically doing a mathematical problem as harded a any common core thing finding 98 cents, takes a transaction that is 20 sends and makes it into a minute. what does that train everybody to do? you start carrying around pennies and quarters. we don't -- we stopped doing this. change, change was for the 1980s. i thought we moved away from that model. we have to stop this. >> this is why you need apple pay. >> yes. >> you have got to calm down on this. >> almost time for special report. >> why do i still pay with change? >> that was like whoa. okay. anger filibuster. >> are you talking about the place over there? got to get the app and go like this automatically. >> anyway this is fascinating. dana? >> i tell how saves pennies, tell you this guys his name is ronald reed. he was from prattle borrow, vermont, a very brewingle person, held his coat together with safety pins and worked a lot of jobs and turns out when he died at 92 he bequeathed $6 million to his local library and his hospital and no one knew he was a multimillionaire. you never know who might -- >> i love it. >> bolling? >> very quickly. you remember the worst call in the history, pete carroll the pass play losing the super bowl, probably could be one of the fools of the week. here's how he explained it this morning on the "today" show. >> i wake up and can't stop thinking about it i feel responsible for a lot of people right now. it was the worst result of a call ever. the call would have been a great one if we catch it. would have been just fine and nobody would have thought twice about it. that one moment that moment doesn't -- isn't gonna define this team and who we are. >> no, but it may define you and it was the worst call in history. >> oh, man. >> wish a happy birthday to sicari new new, who is 112. the oldest living human -- oldest living man ever. i ain't gonna get there with you, buddy. glad you're there. >> feast your eyes on model hannah davis, the new cover of the sport s"sports illustrated"." they covered it a little bit too risques. jimmy fallon had that on "the tonight show." i hope you will join me, i'm on the o'reilly factor but it is a surprise why i hope that you tune in and figure it out. >> you bring that picture back up? >> that is it for us. special s >> it is fry february 6th. fighting back. president obama fighting against isis following the brutal murder of a jordanian pilot. he will not call it islamic extremism but we will still take jabs against christians. >> during the inquisition they had a terrible beating in the name of christ. >> is this the right message to send to our enemy as we prepare to staepep up to this fight. >> breaking overnight brand new information about what caused that terrible trance asia air crash. what investigators released about the second right after takeoff. >> a major health
New-yorkUnited-statesGermanyAlaskaVermontCaliforniaSyriaWashingtonDistrict-of-columbiaJordanConnecticutScarsdale terror. this, as we are getting the first image of tashfeen malik, the first time you've seen her face. u.s. officials believe she was inspired by isis. she posted her allegiance to the leader of the group abu bakr al baghdadi on facebook. that post literally went up as she and her husband, syed farook, launched their brutal attack and murdered 14 people. moments ago, a stunning press conference with attorneys for syed farook's family. they claim there is no real evidence for terrorism and admitted the family knew little about farook's wife. >> they were very traditional. the family would go over to the house. they wouldn't all be together in the room. the women sat with the women and men sat with the men. but that's a very traditional way of acting. it wasn't anything that was different. men didn't interact with her and the brothers did not actually ever see her face. she did wear a burqa. >> there was this bizarre scene that happened on live television. dozens of reporters, news crews, curious on lookers went into the apartment. everybody picking up and touching whatever they wanted, moving it and looking at it. >> the building's landlord invited media to come in and law enforcement stood by and did not object. many call it unfettered access to a crime scene. once they boarded the place up it has, quote, nothing to do with us. pretty stunning. a lot of late-breaking developments. i want to begin with jim sciutto. the stunning press conference, the attorneys for farook's family, talking, answering questions after question after question, a lot of things that they had to say and the way they said it were very surprising. >> it was one of the odder press conferences that i've seen. in effect, they make two arguments. they say that the family knew nothing about this and part of the way that they explained that is that, for instance, men and women did not spend time together. they were an observant muslim family and that the wife tashfeen malik wore a burqa so the male members of the family didn't really know what she looked like but they said they interacted a lot. in this garage where it's believed that they manufactured these pipe bombs, that there were play dates that took place inside there but they didn't see anything suspicious going on. the other argument they make is they try to undermine the fbi's comment that terrorism is an explanation or rather that they are investigating this as a terrorist case. listen to what they had to say. >> i've checked out a britney spears post and i hate britney spears music. it doesn't mean that you condone whatever you look at or read or fully believe and acting on behalf of whatever you look at or read. >> the britney spears kmecommen he's saying that they are saying it was inspired because one of the shooters checked out a jihadi website. in fact, tashfeen malik posted allegiance to the isis leader abu bakr al baghdadi as this deadly rampage was taking place. to compare it to a britney spears website is an odd one in light of the case and, to be clear, we've reported that there were other signs as well, including contacts by phone and social media with known terrorist suspects overseas. so it was an interesting moment to watch, for sure. >> all right. jim sciutto, thank you very much. it really was riveting. tonight, u.s. officials say they have uncovered a chilling facebook post that may link farook's wife to isis. kyung lah is "outfront." >> reporter: investigators are honing in on tashfeen malik, the wife and second shooter in the san bernardino attack that claimed the lives of 14 people. three u.s. officials familiar with the investigation say as the massacre was happening, malik posted on facebook a pledge of allegiance to abu bakr al baghdadi, isis leader. she is a woman few members of the islamic center in riverside remember. that's the mosque that farook attended. their wedding was here last year. >> the service was here. >> yes. >> reporter: women are separated from the men in this mosque so even the director of the islamic center never met malik. she's a mystery to many here, including those who knew her best. according to attorneys for the farook family, syed's brothers never saw her face. >> men did not interact with her and the brothers did not actually ever see her face. they've never seen her face. >> reporter: the couple first met like many today, on the web. farook had joined a dating website. he came across malik, a pakistani citizen living in saudi arabia. he turned to this man for marital advice. >> he said, i feel comfortable with this person and i believe she's a good woman, she's a decent woman. she's a religious woman. >> reporter: kuko says that farook flew there to meet mall like in 2013 and went again in june 2014. documents show she entered the u.s. a month later. their marriage certificate filed in riverside county says they were legally married in august of that year. members of the mosque first met malik at their wedding ceremony held here. abdul akmed, farook's friend, was among the 300 who attended the wedding. >> when he comes here, he was looking good. >> reporter: and then he disappeared? >> he disappeared, yeah. >> reporter: after coming to this mosque every day for two years, farook stopped. >> how can this happen? a guy who was very good, he doesn't have any problem with anybody, you don't hear him talking about those madmen, like the crazy terrorists. he never talked about those kinds of people. >> reporter: did the marriage change him? >> i suspect. i suspect. >> reporter: farook's co-worker says he's certain the marriage changed farook. >> do you believe that he was radicalized? >> yes. by the wife. i think he married a terrorist. >> he married a terrorist? >> yes. >> reporter: most puzzling, say friends, farook would be a good father and would have wanted to live a life with a family. >> i don't understand. how can a woman just leave her baby like this and do some crap like this? >> reporter: and just to give you an idea of how elusive she remained, at least in this community, there are 500 members of this mosque, registered members of this mosque. she attended services with her husband almost every single day but nobody at that mosque could identify her image. they don't remember what her voice sounded like. they don't remember anything about her personality. erin? >> it's amazing and stunning how little we know. kyung, thank you. and "outfront," the man who attended the same mosque at syed rizwan farook and his wife. there are so many questions that we have and perhaps you can answer some of them. you welcomed farook into your mosque. you were one of the first persons who meet him when he came to your mosque a couple of years ago. what was your impression at that time? >> until what happened on thursday, my impression was the same. you know, he was a gentleman, a very nice person, everyone that knew him always talked highly of him. until today. the community is shocked. he was such a sweet, young man. and that was how he was from the day i met him until we heard of this. so to try to deal with this, it's difficult for the community that knew him and had such qualities to do such a thing like this. >> and you knew him before he was married. cbs news spoke to one of his colleagues who said farook was different when he came home from saudi arabia. that is, of course, where he met his wife. you saw him before he went. you saw him after he went, when he came home and was married. did you see any kind of a change at all? >> no. absolutely not. and i also discussed this with my other members of my mosque, the other brothers. they also said the same thing, that they didn't see any type of difference in him before and after coming back from saudi arabia after he got married. my interaction with him was limited. yeah, it was frequent. yes, i would see him, as i mentioned, to the other interviews. i had met him at the mosque. he would come during his lunch break. he was working as a health inspector. so he would come during his lunch break to our local mosque and attend the noon prayer. i would talk to him for maybe five minutes or so. i wasn't somebody that was an intimate friend of his or in his inner circle so i wasn't somebody that knew any type of family problems that he had or any type of struggles that he was going through. he never shared anything like that with me. >> it sounds like he was observant, devout, but no more than any of you at the mosque. >> absolutely. >> did you ever meet his wife at the mosque or see her? >> no. because he was coming from work, there was no reason to bring his wife with him. he was coming from work. it's his lunch break. so, no, he never brought his wife to the mosque, to the san bernardino mosque that i ever remember. i do remember seeing his wife at a banquet. as i mentioned to the other interviewers, i participated in cooking the food for his banquet after he got married so we had a banquet at the riverside mosque and that's where i remember seeing her in the car and she had a veil over her face so i wouldn't be able to describe how she looked, what was the color of her eyes, her skin, how tall was she, was she skinny or fit, i can't answer any of things. he never described her or said anything about her. i don't have any information on that. >> he did have a 6-month-old baby daughter with her and this is part of the story that no one can ever understand. did he ever talk about that baby? >> no. actually, i remember in the beginning when he mentioned that his wife was pregnant and we hope and pray that god blesses them with a healthy baby and stuff like that. and we were waiting for him to, you know, give us the news of his wife, you know, giving birth and when he did, when she did, you know, and when he told us, i remember, you know, he was joyful, he was happy. and at that time, i remember he mentioned that he was going to go back to school to pursue his master's degree. so that alone told me, knowing that at that time and then learning of this, i don't understand, you know, a person that's going to go and do his master's degree, how could you have intention to do something like this as well. learning or hearing that somebody is going to get their master's degree, that just says that a person has an exciting life and wants to get somewhere in life, especially when this was his -- his daughter is born now. it seemed like a signal of him trying to, you know, progress in life, so to speak. >> well, nizzam ali, thank you so much. >> no problem. bye-bye. and now "outfront," the former cia, counterterrorism official phil mudd. you just heard nizzam ali. intelligent authorities say she may have been the one who radicalized him. what do you believe her role was in the attack? >> i think there's a couple ways to look at her role. the first is the radicalization role. my sense, and this is very unusual, i never remember seeing this at the bureau, that she was at least an equal partner. in the first years of 9/11, i don't remember a single female ever cropping up in any threat report and we talked every night, maybe a thousand threat briefings. there's a radicalization piece among equals, which is unusual. the second piece, erin, is even more important. emotional bond. two individuals are making a choice to murder innocence as a result poe tntentially of a political or religious belief. people together bounce off each other and persuade each other that this radical act is acceptable. one of the most troubling cases i ever witnessed, for example, was a father in north carolina in a case already prosecuted, on the wires, interception, we had him telling his sons to take head shots at officials. unbelievable. >> so this couple had this 6-month-old baby. this is obviously crucial but no one understands. farook was very proud, he used 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the townhouse that was shared by san bernardino mass shooters syed rizwan farook and his wife tashfeen malik. a crime scene mixed with baby toys. the baby's crib is to one side, a small desk is in another corner. the back bedroom holding more clues about the family. >> i was the first person to walk in and saw how it was before people started touching it. police looked at many things. i don't want to show you these i.d.s because i don't want to show you the addresses. i believe they wrong to the mother of farook, based on the ages that are there. there are some prayer books, pictures. when i first walked in, this group of prayer beads was sitting right here on the edge of the bed when i walked in as well. several prayer books that were all around the side of the bed here. some business cards. and plenty of the normal things that you would expect to see in the bedroom. i would see receipt for stores, normal store purchases, receipts, that kind of thing. there's so much media in here and one of the thing that you can see here is what i was telling you before, this right here. if you look right here, you can see that they smashed up into the ceiling to take a look to see what was up there. it does appear, based upon how much debris is on the ground, that there was an effort to get up there and make sure that they checked every crevice of this back bedroom and it seems like it may have been the back bedroom that was here. plenty of i.d.s, social security cards, plenty of things that are around here as well as plenty of signs of faith. a lot of signs of faith here. these are people who believed in their faith and referencing it. there are stickers and so forth all throughout the room but a lot of paperwork and also a lot of luggage up here as well, too. it looks like it's been stashed in the corner but definitely signs that this has been a room that has been ransacked not before the media got here but before the police as well. >> reporter: the landlord of the property invited the media inside. a surprising move because the investigation is still in the early stages. >> i need to assess the damage. >> yeah. >> it's a lot worse than what i thought. >> reporter: the fbi under fire for allowing the media and landlord into the home, explaining they were no longer responsible for the apartment since they released it last night. >> we executed a search warrant and last night we turned that back to the residents. once theress departments have the apartment and we're not in it anymore, we don't control it. >> reporter: there's a lot of discussion about the garage of this house, that this is where we've heard reports that they were making pipe bombs as a couple. we took a look at that. the garage is actually separated from this building. that part completely secure. you could not get in there. so no signs of that sort of activity was inside of the actual household, erin. >> pretty incredible stuff, stephanie. incredible to see you in there and all of the 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"outfront" now, chris swecker and art roderick. you saw stephanie's report about the media coming into the home. you saw stephanie's footage of licenses and social security cards, passports, lots of different i.d.s. there was even a shredder with paper in it. do you think that's really the case? >> i mean, we have to take their word for it. just when you think this case couldn't get any stranger, stuff like this happens today. and i have been in law enforcement for 38 years. i've never seen an open house hosted like this by the owner of the shooter's property there. it's a bizarre case. should they have left all of that stuff? they seem to be fairly confident that they got everything out that they needed. you know, i would have probably taken every single possible item out of that place that had any association with the wife or the husband. and go through it with a fine-tooth comb. as you heard the sack announce that they got everything out of there that they needed and turned the residence over to the owner. >> it does seem confusing, right? the shredder had shredded paper in it. and the i.d.s, wouldn't you take everything? it's pretty shocking that things like that were sitting around. >> yeah. i'm a little surprised. their evidence response teams are very, very thorough. and when you're going into a house like that with a search warrant, you're very limited in what you can take. it's based on probable cause, you're looking for terrorism or fruits of the crime. they may have decided that what they left behind has no relevance to the crime itself and no indicia of terrorism. >> what about the two smashed cell phones? they found cell phones that they took near one of the crime scenes and say it's relatively new so they were using burner phones or there could be a trail possibly. do you think they will be able to put them back together? >> when you look at this type of cell phones, i mean, in any types of these cases, you always try to find out how the individuals are communicating. to come across a cell phone, a computer, hard drives, any of that information is key. now, they should be able to know fairly quickly if they are able to get information off and how much damage was actually done to the phone or the hard drives. so i think we'll know fairly soon if they were able to get something off of it back in quaint co-at the cyberlab. it might take some type to actually withdraw the information out of there. >> chris, when we look at those i.d.s, one of them belonged to farook's mother, it appears. a neighbor told me that she was the one who often took care of the child. if she wasn't living there, she was there a lot of the time. his mother. and was staying at that apartment for some period of time. is it it possible that she had no idea what was going on, where she was living, building bombs? >> kind of hard to believe that she didn't know what was going on around her, living in the apartment and, you know, i would go back to what you mentioned about her i.d. i'm sure the fbi photographed everything in that apartment or townhouse. so they -- i don't think that they felt like what they left behind was relevant. again, the mother, the grandmother, that's pretty much a stretch since there were so many ieds laying around, it looked like an ied factory. >> so shocking that there was no clue. thank you both very much. 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"outfront" now, the former fbi special agent jim clemente and paul cruickshank. they are so perplexed and in other cases of lone wolf or isis-inspired terror in the united states, the trail to radicalization became very apparent after an attack. it was the questions that we were asking were, how did they not see it? and military recruitment center attack in tennessee, everybody at the mosque said they noticed a change. in the case of the boston bombers. but in this case, no one seems to have seen very much. right before the attacks she posted on facebook, i pledge allegiance to isis. that's all they've got. is that shocking? >> it's very surprising in some ways for everybody. that they wouldn't be on the radar screen. of course. but it seems that they were on the very edge of the radar screen for a sort of fbi point of view. they've clearly gone back and they've looked through all of the contacts and they've established that there are some sort of interesting contacts to extremists that were, erin, on their radar screen. you've got to remember that the sheer scale of this threat is very high and there's been a large number of people that they are having to monitor. it's really just a question of prioritizing all the time. >> jim, as farook and his wife were planning this attack, and we know it was planned and meticulously planned, they did not show any outward signs of radicalization, according to everyone we've spoken to so far. a friend on the show saw him every single day. he said at lunch at mosques he never noticed a change. his family said they never noticed anything. you just heard his sister. here's a little bit more of what she had to say. >> they were totally shocked. had no idea to the point where when they got word that an incident had taken place, they were worried about the health and safety of syed and tashfeen because they had so -- it was -- there's never been any evidence that either of the two alleged shooters were aggressive, had extremist views. >> that was the attorney for the family. but it echos what a lot of people have said. are you surprised that we haven't heard anybody really come forward and talk about their radicalization? >> well, erin, i think this is one of the most disturbing parts of the whole puzzle because we know now that they have been planning for quite some time. so this means that they had a criminal sophistication level that was fairly high in terms of keeping their plans, their training, their operations all secret. sole they must have been coached very well on how to do that. this gives me a lot of indicators that perhaps she was a -- she was actually deliberately put into his life to do this. >> interesting. and the question is by whom? a lot of people find had tard to believe that a mother could leave her child behind. she did have a 6 month old baby. it's contrary to human nature. but a recent study found one in seven recruits for isis are women. are we going to see more of this? that used to be the category of person we used to say, we don't need to look at that. >> yes. we've seen more than 500 women, well more than 500 women go and travel to join isis and other groups over there and women are becoming more involved. we've seen these husband and wife teams over the years, erin, getting involved in terrorism. this is a social movement now when it comes to isis. you're talking about mothers and fathers and brothers and sisters. all getting involved in this. all energized by that this caliphate of isis has been declared and many angered by the western strikes against it. so we're seeing that this social movement, really, when it comes to this isis. a lot of americans tonight will be shocked that this couple could have left their very young baby behind. but they believe -- the extreme mists believe that not only you will go to paradise but your close relatives will also go to paradise if you do jihad, if you die as a master as they see it. so that gives you some indication of their extremist beliefs. >> thank you both very much. 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"ac 360" begins right now. good evening again from san bernardino. tonight new answers in the act of terror here that took a look at the act of terror. the picture originally obtained by abc news. about the same tile -- time they put up a picture and how they armed themselves and modified at least one of the semi and we learned more about what proceeded the shooting, the big question remaining, did the gunman argue with one of his co-workers or not before the shooting? th
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