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>> kate, im sorry to interrupt you. and i know thats the message you want to get out. i get it. message received. but it was vice president biden who demanded the apology from senator booker. i just want to know what was his supposed to apologize for. >> i think he was frustrated a story he told many times was being taken out of context. again, the entire point of the story is that sometimes you have to work with people who you vehemently disagree with or whose views you find repugnant. that is ...

Think, have a struggle endorsing and campaigning for the other if the other is on that ticket? >> im going to say this with as much gravity as i can communicate. whoever comes out as our nominee, everybody, everybody should join ranks and support them and help them. in any way, in dialogue that we have been seeing, not just me but others in the african-american community have been speaking out, i hope it makes and is a learning process. i believe in a kindness and i have friends across the aisle...

He said ive worked with strom thurmon my whole life. but the argument is right. its not going to wash with a lot of folk who is say why are you invoking james eastland as civility in american politics? >> abby, these things do have a tendency to pull over. with joe biden it was the personal space issue and whether or not he owed an apology for whatever it was. these things do blow over because theyre not what any voter lists at the top of what theyre looking for in terms of solving issues. its j...

To be tests of how he can do that. >> theres also in my view a substantive problem with what biden said and his failure to address it. in addition to the "son" thing which is offensive to a lot of people, or the boy/son thing, he characterized that era of being one of civility. thats factually incorrect. if hes up willing to acknowledge that, i think thats substantively going to be a problem. segregationists like eastland were really the paragons of violent era of segregation and jim crow. that ...

Positive civility with someone who did that much harm. by the way, that status quo that eastland was a pillar of, that biden joined into at that time. that status quo has caused so much pain to this day. joe biden needs to apologize. its incredible to me that hes kind of puffing up his chest and doubling down and saying i have nothing to apologize for. its not about who joe biden is as a person. i think hes a good person. its that he has to recognize hes caused a lot of pain and hes caused a lot...

A reason why those were able to be polite with him. i think for a lot of black people when we hit it, its kind a secondary endorsement as crazy as this sounds of jim crow. that was the basis on which that piece was constructed. >> you dont think joe biden -- >> thats not the point. thats why i said secondary. like what hes endorsing is the peace. the peace is actually built on something quite horrible. without that horrible thing, there never would have been civility in the first place. >> the p...

In the senate. times have changed. this is -- todays senate and todays american politics are different than they were even back in 1987, certainly 20 years before that, when he first arrived on capitol hill. i think a lot of voters, a lot of african-americans, a lot of democrats and a lot of republicans feel thats not acceptable anymore. when joe biden got to the senate there were a lot of segregationists on capitol hill. and there was a lot between the two sides, they were able to work together...

Especially given the time they lived in and the times were in now. number one, why bring up these two guys? they were separatists. and number two, shannon, was the correct answer that i was one in 100, we had to get work done, so it means you have to work with all kinds of unsavory people? >> well, i dont know why joe biden decided to go here. because again, what is your -- what is your message? what are you trying to get across? and you know, if the message is trying to be -- i think as were tr...

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Comments is really out of step with where the electorate is today. vice president biden is leading in polls with african-americans. hes comfortable with african-american voters and african-american voters are comfortable with him. and hes taking heat from this because, one, he sort of rolled out this reference to the word boy, which he should know better as senator booker pointed out has traditionally been an insult meant to emasculate african-american men. and the second thing is that a lot of ...